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Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

Sarah k Alawami
 

except this does not answer the original posters question. On mac os I can hit space and hear the video, skim through it, read a word document, listen to an audio file. You cannot do this in windows. I cannot hit space on a word doc or video and know, this is right or no this is not what I'm looking for.

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On 19 Oct 2019, at 8:42, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:

Hi, Joseph:

 

Many thanks! This does what I was looking for and facilitates identifying and managing my files more meaningfully than in the past.

 

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

The fastest way to obtain such info (provided that Fil Explorer is set to “details”) is using left or right arrow keys to view file metadata information.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

HI:

 

Thanks, it is a step forward in the right direction.

 

I discovered that—taking a detour—I can obtain information about size and type of file, date of origin and date last accessed, etc., by opening toe context menu and scrolling up once to learn about specific details of a file. It is doable but does not save time.

 

Moreover, with “report tooltip” turned on, I temporarily see the information I asked about. However, it does not display long enough for me to catch the details I am looking for. Is there a setting to control it?

 

Thanks,

Cordelia

   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

Sometimes this info is shown as a tool tip, and I bet NVDA is not told to announce this. To change this, go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object presentation and check “report tooltips” checkbox.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi, Joseph:

 

Many thanks! This does what I was looking for and facilitates identifying and managing my files more meaningfully than in the past.

 

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

The fastest way to obtain such info (provided that Fil Explorer is set to “details”) is using left or right arrow keys to view file metadata information.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

HI:

 

Thanks, it is a step forward in the right direction.

 

I discovered that—taking a detour—I can obtain information about size and type of file, date of origin and date last accessed, etc., by opening toe context menu and scrolling up once to learn about specific details of a file. It is doable but does not save time.

 

Moreover, with “report tooltip” turned on, I temporarily see the information I asked about. However, it does not display long enough for me to catch the details I am looking for. Is there a setting to control it?

 

Thanks,

Cordelia

   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

Sometimes this info is shown as a tool tip, and I bet NVDA is not told to announce this. To change this, go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object presentation and check “report tooltips” checkbox.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

The fastest way to obtain such info (provided that Fil Explorer is set to “details”) is using left or right arrow keys to view file metadata information.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

HI:

 

Thanks, it is a step forward in the right direction.

 

I discovered that—taking a detour—I can obtain information about size and type of file, date of origin and date last accessed, etc., by opening toe context menu and scrolling up once to learn about specific details of a file. It is doable but does not save time.

 

Moreover, with “report tooltip” turned on, I temporarily see the information I asked about. However, it does not display long enough for me to catch the details I am looking for. Is there a setting to control it?

 

Thanks,

Cordelia

   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

Sometimes this info is shown as a tool tip, and I bet NVDA is not told to announce this. To change this, go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object presentation and check “report tooltips” checkbox.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

Cordelia Scharpf
 

HI:

 

Thanks, it is a step forward in the right direction.

 

I discovered that—taking a detour—I can obtain information about size and type of file, date of origin and date last accessed, etc., by opening toe context menu and scrolling up once to learn about specific details of a file. It is doable but does not save time.

 

Moreover, with “report tooltip” turned on, I temporarily see the information I asked about. However, it does not display long enough for me to catch the details I am looking for. Is there a setting to control it?

 

Thanks,

Cordelia

   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

Sometimes this info is shown as a tool tip, and I bet NVDA is not told to announce this. To change this, go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object presentation and check “report tooltips” checkbox.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi,

Sometimes this info is shown as a tool tip, and I bet NVDA is not told to announce this. To change this, go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object presentation and check “report tooltips” checkbox.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


Re: is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi:

 

I have the same question, for with another screen reader I can see type and size of files, date last accessed, number of file within a directory/folder, etc. I know I did not change anything but such information is missing whenever I use NVDA. As I am new to NVDA, I might not be aware of specific settings yet and would gratefully accept advice to make such information more readily available prior to opening files.

 

Thanks,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Samuel Kacer
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

 

Hello,

 

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

 

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

 

Kind Regards,

Sam


is there app or addon for NVDA on windows 10 for previewing files

Samuel Kacer
 

Hello,

 one thing that constantly annoys me is when I am looking for a concrete file like a word document, I have to open the up in word  or the respective application to take a look at the contents. Is there a app or addon accessible with NVDA that would let me preview a file without properly opening it.

I know mac \OS letw you preview pdfs, documents, video and audio files in the file viewer. Something like that for windows 10 usable with \NVDA would be fantastic. 

I see explorer has a preview pane but it doesnt seem to be accessible unfortunately...

Kind Regards,
Sam


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Re: is this program really accessible

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, Classic shell is maybe the program she is using? it can make it look like an older OS like say windows7. I would always advise people to not use these programs! learn the OS as if you have to work on someone else computer this shell will not be installed not a good idea.

On 18/10/2019 19:02, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi NVDA users ken here.  I’ve recently run into quite the buzzsaw with someone.  An NVDA user friend of mine wanted me to help her tag a whole folder of music for play on a radio show.  I was trying to get her to change her default media player from windows media player to winamp and surprise! I’m trying to get her to find default apps in the start menu and she’s got a program that apparently makes windows 10 behave like 7. I’d never heard of this program before and frankly am not so sure I’d trust it.  Does anyone know about such a program and if so can anyone confirm what I suspect that in fact this program really isn’t ment for a totally blind user?  I think she has rendered parts of windows 10 inaccessible.  Any thoughts?
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Re: is this program really accessible

Lenron
 

I must agree, using win 10 is not bad at all once you get the hang of things.

On 10/18/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 02:07 PM, Gene wrote:


the question can be answered properly without knowing the name of the
program.
Indeed.   But, if it's Classic Shell (still downloadable, but not
supported), now known as Open Shell (
https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu ) and taken over by
volunteers, or Start10 all of the above are accessible/have no impact on
accessibility.

One can also circumvent them, when desired, to use the native Windows 10
interface.

I find all of them to be awful crutches.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

*The color of truth is grey.*

~ André Gide



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Re: is this program really accessible

 

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 02:07 PM, Gene wrote:
the question can be answered properly without knowing the name of the program.
Indeed.   But, if it's Classic Shell (still downloadable, but not supported), now known as Open Shell and taken over by volunteers, or Start10 all of the above are accessible/have no impact on accessibility.

One can also circumvent them, when desired, to use the native Windows 10 interface.

I find all of them to be awful crutches.
 
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Re: is this program really accessible

Nimer Jaber
 

Also, one more thing. These programs don't make parts of Windows 10 inaccessible. In fact, you can still access Windows 10 settings, the control panel, etc.

Thanks again.

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM ken lawrence via Groups.Io <kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi NVDA users ken here.  I’ve recently run into quite the buzzsaw with someone.  An NVDA user friend of mine wanted me to help her tag a whole folder of music for play on a radio show.  I was trying to get her to change her default media player from windows media player to winamp and surprise! I’m trying to get her to find default apps in the start menu and she’s got a program that apparently makes windows 10 behave like 7.  I’d never heard of this program before and frankly am not so sure I’d trust it.  Does anyone know about such a program and if so can anyone confirm what I suspect that in fact this program really isn’t ment for a totally blind user?  I think she has rendered parts of windows 10 inaccessible.  Any thoughts? 

 

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Re: is this program really accessible

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I have no idea what exactly you are asking, but there are programs which will change aspects of Windows 10 and make it appear like Windows 7. Classic start or classic shell or whatever is one such program which gives you an alternate start menu to appear like Windows 7. I would say that these programs are not specific to blind people, but that's okay, isn't it? Unless you have a desire to only run blindy apps?

Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:02 AM ken lawrence via Groups.Io <kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi NVDA users ken here.  I’ve recently run into quite the buzzsaw with someone.  An NVDA user friend of mine wanted me to help her tag a whole folder of music for play on a radio show.  I was trying to get her to change her default media player from windows media player to winamp and surprise! I’m trying to get her to find default apps in the start menu and she’s got a program that apparently makes windows 10 behave like 7.  I’d never heard of this program before and frankly am not so sure I’d trust it.  Does anyone know about such a program and if so can anyone confirm what I suspect that in fact this program really isn’t ment for a totally blind user?  I think she has rendered parts of windows 10 inaccessible.  Any thoughts? 

 

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To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
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Re: is this program really accessible

Gene
 

I doubt that, aside from speculation, the question can be answered properly without knowing the name of the program.
 
Gene

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 1:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] is this program really accessible

Hi NVDA users ken here.  I’ve recently run into quite the buzzsaw with someone.  An NVDA user friend of mine wanted me to help her tag a whole folder of music for play on a radio show.  I was trying to get her to change her default media player from windows media player to winamp and surprise! I’m trying to get her to find default apps in the start menu and she’s got a program that apparently makes windows 10 behave like 7.  I’d never heard of this program before and frankly am not so sure I’d trust it.  Does anyone know about such a program and if so can anyone confirm what I suspect that in fact this program really isn’t ment for a totally blind user?  I think she has rendered parts of windows 10 inaccessible.  Any thoughts? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


is this program really accessible

ken lawrence
 

Hi NVDA users ken here.  I’ve recently run into quite the buzzsaw with someone.  An NVDA user friend of mine wanted me to help her tag a whole folder of music for play on a radio show.  I was trying to get her to change her default media player from windows media player to winamp and surprise! I’m trying to get her to find default apps in the start menu and she’s got a program that apparently makes windows 10 behave like 7.  I’d never heard of this program before and frankly am not so sure I’d trust it.  Does anyone know about such a program and if so can anyone confirm what I suspect that in fact this program really isn’t ment for a totally blind user?  I think she has rendered parts of windows 10 inaccessible.  Any thoughts? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


NVDA remote

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I was working with a friend and found that his remote was still 2.1.  We highlighted it and clicked remove and it  says “r=waiting for restart. Its not going away no matter how often you restart NVDA.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 


An accessible screen recorder.

 

I saw this on Twitter. A totally blind user tweeted that they finally found a fully accessible screen recorder that is not made by Microsoft. They did say there was a bug in the software, but have no idea what that bug is. The link is below. It's called wincam. I'm gonna add this to the applications wiki github after I give this a try.

https://www.ntwind.com/software/wincam.html


Re: Station playlist

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just forwarded a message from Ross to the other list.

 

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi all,

After investigating the issue posted by Robert and trying to think of a way to resolve it, I came to a point where I must say, I give up. The issue is as follows:

In StationPlaylist Creator, you can create track categories for scheduling, and from within a category, you can filter tracks based on criteria. The issue is that this criteria screen isn’t usable by screen reader users: dynamic handles, no labels, inefficient accessibility layout, and so on.

The issue calls for “creating” (or rather, generating) labels for unlabeled controls. One way is screen review emulation (where text around the location where the cursor is will be looked up), generating labels based on loops (where NVDA will loop through a screen and generate labels for various controls if possible), and perhaps other tricks. Although any of these may yield results, one particular solution (looping) will affect NVDA’s responsiveness to some degree (I personally care a lot about responsiveness, and I prefer not to resolve accessibility problems if it affects NVDA’s responsiveness and user experience in a negative way). In the past, I and other broadcasters reached out to developer of StationPlaylist Creator, and it appears part of the problem lies with the toolkit in use (StationPlaylist Creator and Studio uses Delphi, thus NVDA can use MSAA/IAccessible API; at one point, the developer hinted at using UI Automation, but noted that it requires toolkit upgrades which is very risky).

I know how important it is for users of StationPlaylist Creator to have a usable user experience, at least via StationPlaylist add-on which I’ve been developing and maintaining for the last six years. But given the situation described above, I feel I may just give up on Creator (at least certain features in Creator); besides, I’m in a moment in life where I need to truly scale back my efforts in maintaining StationPlaylist add-on.

Therefore I would like to sincerely request that the NVDA community do the following:

  1. Please petition Ross Levis, the creator of StationPlaylist suite to invest more in accessibility based on feedback from screen reader users, especially when it comes to various unlabeled controls in Creator.
  2. Please help me by finding or training someone who is willing to maintain SPL add-on in the future (in case I hand over the add-on to the community; it will certainly happen, but don’t know exactly when). Part of the reason why I maintain this add-on is due to love for broadcasting and a thrill of maintaining an add-on that changes lives (even though I don’t actively use StationPlaylist suite), and tend to be one of the skilled add-on authors around and knows StationPlaylist suite to a point where I can come up with workarounds and features. Ideally StationPlaylist add-on should be maintained by broadcasters who are actual experts in this broadcasting suite and skilled in add-on writing, but as of 2019, only a handful have the willingness to do this (actually, nobody else).


Thanks. At least for now, to Robert, I’m sorry to let you down.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

Subscription address is:

Nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi Joseph,

 

How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

 

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Re: Station playlist

 

Hi all,

After investigating the issue posted by Robert and trying to think of a way to resolve it, I came to a point where I must say, I give up. The issue is as follows:

In StationPlaylist Creator, you can create track categories for scheduling, and from within a category, you can filter tracks based on criteria. The issue is that this criteria screen isn’t usable by screen reader users: dynamic handles, no labels, inefficient accessibility layout, and so on.

The issue calls for “creating” (or rather, generating) labels for unlabeled controls. One way is screen review emulation (where text around the location where the cursor is will be looked up), generating labels based on loops (where NVDA will loop through a screen and generate labels for various controls if possible), and perhaps other tricks. Although any of these may yield results, one particular solution (looping) will affect NVDA’s responsiveness to some degree (I personally care a lot about responsiveness, and I prefer not to resolve accessibility problems if it affects NVDA’s responsiveness and user experience in a negative way). In the past, I and other broadcasters reached out to developer of StationPlaylist Creator, and it appears part of the problem lies with the toolkit in use (StationPlaylist Creator and Studio uses Delphi, thus NVDA can use MSAA/IAccessible API; at one point, the developer hinted at using UI Automation, but noted that it requires toolkit upgrades which is very risky).

I know how important it is for users of StationPlaylist Creator to have a usable user experience, at least via StationPlaylist add-on which I’ve been developing and maintaining for the last six years. But given the situation described above, I feel I may just give up on Creator (at least certain features in Creator); besides, I’m in a moment in life where I need to truly scale back my efforts in maintaining StationPlaylist add-on.

Therefore I would like to sincerely request that the NVDA community do the following:

  1. Please petition Ross Levis, the creator of StationPlaylist suite to invest more in accessibility based on feedback from screen reader users, especially when it comes to various unlabeled controls in Creator.
  2. Please help me by finding or training someone who is willing to maintain SPL add-on in the future (in case I hand over the add-on to the community; it will certainly happen, but don’t know exactly when). Part of the reason why I maintain this add-on is due to love for broadcasting and a thrill of maintaining an add-on that changes lives (even though I don’t actively use StationPlaylist suite), and tend to be one of the skilled add-on authors around and knows StationPlaylist suite to a point where I can come up with workarounds and features. Ideally StationPlaylist add-on should be maintained by broadcasters who are actual experts in this broadcasting suite and skilled in add-on writing, but as of 2019, only a handful have the willingness to do this (actually, nobody else).


Thanks. At least for now, to Robert, I’m sorry to let you down.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

Subscription address is:

Nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lynn white
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi Joseph,

 

How do you subscribe to the NVDA SPL list?  Thanks.

On 10/17/2019 2:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Let’s discuss this further on the NVDA-SPL list, because I need slightly more time to go through this topic.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

If it would help I could send you the tutorial I have that talks about creator. Jonathan Mosen did it.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Station playlist

 

Hi,

If I get to know that area (and learn how to use it), perhaps. Specifically, I need to know procedures, what’s not working, and how should the add-on work there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Station playlist

 

By chance is the addon set to work in the criteria area for SPL creator.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

 


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Re: Capturing computer audio

Arlene
 

I know this thread ran its course. I’ll just learn how to use Goldwave.

 

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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: October 17, 2019 8:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

No, it is not free. And that blind help site shoudl seriously be taken down. It does cost, I can't remember how much as i don't use the app. We cannot have everytrhign for free. Everything including free has a price.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 17 Oct 2019, at 2:16, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Arlene

I’ll have another go.  Yes it’s free, have a look at this site:

 

https://blindhelp.net/software/virtual-recorder-13

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 17 October 2019 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Is virtual recorder free? Or do you have to pay for it?

 

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From: Chris Mullins
Sent: October 16, 2019 1:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Hi

If I do not want NVDA to spoil a recording I switch it to silent mode.  I record a lot from Youtube and the fact that there are shortcut keys to control Virtual Recorder, means I can put focus on the start button of YouTube, use NVDA+s to put NVDA in silent mode, press Windows+Control+g to start the recorder, then press enter to start Youtube playing.  When I’ve recorded what I want, I press Windows+Control+h to stop recording, NVDA+s twice to restore NVDA speech, then do whatever I need to do with Youtube.  Virtual Recorder also has a settting to silence system sounds, so yu don’t get the chime of arriving emails halfway through your recording.  Works a treat.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 15 October 2019 21:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

If you use Audacity or other programs to capture Audio. Wil any screen reader be heard in the back ground?

 

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From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 15, 2019 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capturing computer audio

 

Audacity is good at this. They have a tutorial page that instructs on how to do

it:

 

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_windows.html

 

Luke

 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:

 

> What is the easiest way to capture the audio from NVDA - I have to send

> feedback on a webpage to Google and they asked me to navigate and send them

> the audio output.