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locked Re: blank line reading by NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Ok, and if I read with the arrorss?

 

 

 

מאת: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> בשם Quentin Christensen
נשלח: יום ג 08 אוקטובר 2019 11:33
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא: Re: [nvda] blank line reading by NVDA

 

If you read with NVDA+Down arrow (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+a) it won't report all the blank lines.

 

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:36 PM Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

My name is Afik, from Israel, I’m almost 21 years old.

 

I want to ask, how can I stop NVDA to read or show in braille blank lines, such in emails, websites, or other platforms?

 

Thanks

 

Afik Souffir

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: blind programer with NVDA and beta testing the program

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Afik,

Ok, for developing, see the developer guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html

You might be interested in starting out with add-ons.

For Beta testing, we have a page of snapshot builds which is updated regularly (newest at the top): https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

For bug reporting, see GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

For helping users, we recommend completing the NVDA Certification program: https://certification.nvaccess.org but otherwise, participating here and in other forums is a good way.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...> wrote:

 

Hi, again,

 

I want to know how can I help with developing NVDA, beta testing it and report bugs?

 

 

In addition, I want to help users to use the program.

 

Afik.

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


locked Re: blank line reading by NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

If you read with NVDA+Down arrow (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+a) it won't report all the blank lines.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:36 PM Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

My name is Afik, from Israel, I’m almost 21 years old.

 

I want to ask, how can I stop NVDA to read or show in braille blank lines, such in emails, websites, or other platforms?

 

Thanks

 

Afik Souffir

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


blind programer with NVDA and beta testing the program

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Hi, again,

 

I want to know how can I help with developing NVDA, beta testing it and report bugs?

 

 

In addition, I want to help users to use the program.

 

Afik.

 


locked blank line reading by NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Hi,

 

My name is Afik, from Israel, I’m almost 21 years old.

 

I want to ask, how can I stop NVDA to read or show in braille blank lines, such in emails, websites, or other platforms?

 

Thanks

 

Afik Souffir

 

 


Re: Are web applications that accessible?

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

I think it's not whether you don't want to memorize web pages to a detailed extent. After years of repeated use you'll do so even if you don't want to.

    For instance, take WordPress. I decided to try something new and put one of my blogs on a different system for a while. However, I didn't know how to do anything because I really wasn't used to it. I did learn the basics, posting etc, but it has a whole different way of adding themes,and plugins than WP does. You have to build what they call "forms." It wasn't that it was inaccessible, I just was used to WP, so that's what I went back to.


Re: Vocalizer Expressive

mattias
 

what do you talk about?

On 2019-10-08 03:29, Samuel Villa wrote:

Good Evening.

I was wondering what voices and languages Nuance will be adding to Vocalizer. I use JFW 2020b2 and I know that the updated version of Vocalizer is coming in the second quarter of 2020. What I don’t know is what languages and voices are coming for this release. If somebody who is using Vocalizer Expressive 2.2 can bring up a list of languages and voices Vocalizer supports, please E-Mail me. Thanks.


Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

 

 see the same issue with Free Make. If that issue could be solved, I"d probably seriously consider buying it.





On 10/7/2019 11:38 PM, Joshua Tubbs wrote:
In both Freemake and Virtual Dub, how do you fast forward/rewind
through a video? It appears I have to play up to the point I want to
start or end at. Not great for long videos.

Windows 10 Photos doesn't seem half bad. But is there a way to cut
video with that? Joining videos with it is dead simple. In Virtual Dub
the fast forward and fast backward to quickly skip through the video
are the same key shortcut. When playing the video with space, most of
the menus go away.

I'd appreciate any help on this.



On 9/26/19, Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono via Groups.Io
<tyaseta_rabita@...> wrote:
yes, windows movie maker , virtual dub







Re: Are web applications that accessible?

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

I definitely agree. Learning to use standard keyboard commands will get you by in 99% of situations. Pass through is one of those, and I learned it with JAWS years before I started using NVDA.


Re: Is there an accessible video editor I can use with NVDA?

Joshua Tubbs
 

In both Freemake and Virtual Dub, how do you fast forward/rewind
through a video? It appears I have to play up to the point I want to
start or end at. Not great for long videos.

Windows 10 Photos doesn't seem half bad. But is there a way to cut
video with that? Joining videos with it is dead simple. In Virtual Dub
the fast forward and fast backward to quickly skip through the video
are the same key shortcut. When playing the video with space, most of
the menus go away.

I'd appreciate any help on this.



On 9/26/19, Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono via Groups.Io
<tyaseta_rabita=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
yes, windows movie maker , virtual dub




Re: NVDA and the application key

 

I sort of aggree with you.

The latest updates have bricked search and start menu on some users.

Fortunately I havn't had the issue.

I like windows 10 for what it is but to be honest the number of issues that effect users well.

Now lets get one thing straight, issues are fine but it seems we are having just a few to many on user systems.

Not all, but enough to notice.

But you are right, if they were not microsoft and everyone using it, a lot of people whould have done something about it now.

Now again lets get one thing straight, its not bad, its not good either and its a concern.

I realise you can't find anything and everything, but at the same time its an issue.



On 8/10/2019 4:29 pm, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Patch? Feature?  whatever These are, they are causing concerns and problems to some if not most Windows users.  Updates are supposed to patch and enhance, and if you got to roll back just because updates don't work, then Ms might as well forget it.  Updating takes time, Rolling beck takes time, and time wasted like this can be used for more productive purposes.  Major updates twice a year, Features and patches that don't work, it is only the Microsoft name that keeps this OS afloat in my opinion because had this happened with other less important brands, then perhaps  intervention by the powers that be would be more iminent.  Give me back windows 7 any day.

On 10/8/2019 11:16 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
First, one must exercise caution, and be entirely clear, about what Windows Update may be causing an issue.  Only Feature Updates change the Windows 10 Version number, and the one reported as causing this issue is not a Feature Update, but a standard patch.

That being said, I have recently posted the following, and will offer it again.  Windows 10 makes it very easy to roll back updates if they are causing issues on your specific machine:

If you are experiencing unexpected issues immediately or very shortly after any Windows update has been applied, then the first thing you should do is use the Windows 10 built-in capability to uninstall the latest update that’s suspected of causing the issue:

1.     Open Settings, Update & Security.  This should take you to the Windows Update Pane by default.

2.     In the Windows Update Pane, locate the View update history control, and activate it.

3.     In the View Update History dialog, locate the Uninstall updates link and activate it.

4.     In the Installed Updates dialog, the updates will be listed in groupings, with the groups alphabetically ordered, and the items within each group ordered by date – most recently installed first (if no one has changed the defaults).  In most cases, you’ll be looking to uninstall a Microsoft Windows update, and those are generally the final group.  The number of updates available for uninstalling is shown in parentheses after the Microsoft Windows group name.

5.     Almost all Windows Updates will have a KB number associated with them, and if you know that use this as what you search on for the actual update.  Select it.

6.     Activate the Uninstall button located above the list of updates, and the selected update will be uninstalled.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: NVDA and the application key

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Patch? Feature?  whatever These are, they are causing concerns and problems to some if not most Windows users.  Updates are supposed to patch and enhance, and if you got to roll back just because updates don't work, then Ms might as well forget it.  Updating takes time, Rolling beck takes time, and time wasted like this can be used for more productive purposes.  Major updates twice a year, Features and patches that don't work, it is only the Microsoft name that keeps this OS afloat in my opinion because had this happened with other less important brands, then perhaps  intervention by the powers that be would be more iminent.  Give me back windows 7 any day.

On 10/8/2019 11:16 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
First, one must exercise caution, and be entirely clear, about what Windows Update may be causing an issue.  Only Feature Updates change the Windows 10 Version number, and the one reported as causing this issue is not a Feature Update, but a standard patch.

That being said, I have recently posted the following, and will offer it again.  Windows 10 makes it very easy to roll back updates if they are causing issues on your specific machine:

If you are experiencing unexpected issues immediately or very shortly after any Windows update has been applied, then the first thing you should do is use the Windows 10 built-in capability to uninstall the latest update that’s suspected of causing the issue:

1.     Open Settings, Update & Security.  This should take you to the Windows Update Pane by default.

2.     In the Windows Update Pane, locate the View update history control, and activate it.

3.     In the View Update History dialog, locate the Uninstall updates link and activate it.

4.     In the Installed Updates dialog, the updates will be listed in groupings, with the groups alphabetically ordered, and the items within each group ordered by date – most recently installed first (if no one has changed the defaults).  In most cases, you’ll be looking to uninstall a Microsoft Windows update, and those are generally the final group.  The number of updates available for uninstalling is shown in parentheses after the Microsoft Windows group name.

5.     Almost all Windows Updates will have a KB number associated with them, and if you know that use this as what you search on for the actual update.  Select it.

6.     Activate the Uninstall button located above the list of updates, and the selected update will be uninstalled.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: NVDA and the application key

 

First, one must exercise caution, and be entirely clear, about what Windows Update may be causing an issue.  Only Feature Updates change the Windows 10 Version number, and the one reported as causing this issue is not a Feature Update, but a standard patch.

That being said, I have recently posted the following, and will offer it again.  Windows 10 makes it very easy to roll back updates if they are causing issues on your specific machine:

If you are experiencing unexpected issues immediately or very shortly after any Windows update has been applied, then the first thing you should do is use the Windows 10 built-in capability to uninstall the latest update that’s suspected of causing the issue:

1.     Open Settings, Update & Security.  This should take you to the Windows Update Pane by default.

2.     In the Windows Update Pane, locate the View update history control, and activate it.

3.     In the View Update History dialog, locate the Uninstall updates link and activate it.

4.     In the Installed Updates dialog, the updates will be listed in groupings, with the groups alphabetically ordered, and the items within each group ordered by date – most recently installed first (if no one has changed the defaults).  In most cases, you’ll be looking to uninstall a Microsoft Windows update, and those are generally the final group.  The number of updates available for uninstalling is shown in parentheses after the Microsoft Windows group name.

5.     Almost all Windows Updates will have a KB number associated with them, and if you know that use this as what you search on for the actual update.  Select it.

6.     Activate the Uninstall button located above the list of updates, and the selected update will be uninstalled.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: NVDA and the application key

Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

Hi Jaffer,

Looks like that is what it is. As my PC is set to automatic windows update, it must have got updated to the latest windows version and there you go. Any workaround to this issue?

Best,
Manoj

On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Did you update your copy of windows recently?  It seems that update KB4524147, brought out to squash a printing bug found in an earlier update is now preventing the context menu on windows to work propperly.  Your pc might just be one of those unfortunate ones that caught this bug as reviewed in the following article.

https://www.komando.com/happening-now/602534/deja-vu-microsoft-update-breaks-windows-again?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2019-10-07

and, if there are doubters among you as to the authenticity of this thread, then you can find further evidence on

https://www.zdnet.com

Seems like this cycle of buggy updates to squash buggy updates will never stop and businesses, and end users so reliant on microsoft to get their work flow running smoothly never will.

On 10/8/2019 9:42 AM, Manoj Govindraj wrote:
Hi Quentin,

I did try restarting NVDA by disabling add-ons, but the problem still persists.

Manoj


On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some synthesizers read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might have the latest version.  Otherwise it's available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for updates.  We must find a way to release point releases without making it look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
> to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But at
> no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus F10
> but with no success.
>
> Manoj
>
> On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Manoj,
>>
>> When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it has
>> opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it usually
>> announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?
>>
>> When you arrow through the context menu options does it report anything?
>>
>> If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
>> SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many places
>> Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the context
>> menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the options
>> in the menu.  NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard layout)
>> presses the right mouse button.  Depending on exactly where the mouse is
>> on
>> screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost always
>> give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain whether
>> the menu appears.
>>
>>
>> Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
>>> Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
>>> windows 10 64 bit pc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manoj
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.swar-ras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.swar-ras.com
>
>
>
>


--
http://www.swar-ras.com





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and the application key

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Did you update your copy of windows recently?  It seems that update KB4524147, brought out to squash a printing bug found in an earlier update is now preventing the context menu on windows to work propperly.  Your pc might just be one of those unfortunate ones that caught this bug as reviewed in the following article.

https://www.komando.com/happening-now/602534/deja-vu-microsoft-update-breaks-windows-again?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2019-10-07

and, if there are doubters among you as to the authenticity of this thread, then you can find further evidence on

https://www.zdnet.com

Seems like this cycle of buggy updates to squash buggy updates will never stop and businesses, and end users so reliant on microsoft to get their work flow running smoothly never will.

On 10/8/2019 9:42 AM, Manoj Govindraj wrote:
Hi Quentin,

I did try restarting NVDA by disabling add-ons, but the problem still persists.

Manoj


On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some synthesizers read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might have the latest version.  Otherwise it's available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for updates.  We must find a way to release point releases without making it look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
> to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But at
> no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus F10
> but with no success.
>
> Manoj
>
> On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Manoj,
>>
>> When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it has
>> opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it usually
>> announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?
>>
>> When you arrow through the context menu options does it report anything?
>>
>> If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
>> SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many places
>> Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the context
>> menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the options
>> in the menu.  NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard layout)
>> presses the right mouse button.  Depending on exactly where the mouse is
>> on
>> screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost always
>> give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain whether
>> the menu appears.
>>
>>
>> Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
>>> Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
>>> windows 10 64 bit pc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manoj
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.swar-ras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.swar-ras.com
>
>
>
>


--
http://www.swar-ras.com





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and the application key

Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

Hi Quentin,

I did try restarting NVDA by disabling add-ons, but the problem still persists.

Manoj

On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some synthesizers read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might have the latest version.  Otherwise it's available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for updates.  We must find a way to release point releases without making it look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
> to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But at
> no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus F10
> but with no success.
>
> Manoj
>
> On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Manoj,
>>
>> When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it has
>> opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it usually
>> announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?
>>
>> When you arrow through the context menu options does it report anything?
>>
>> If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
>> SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many places
>> Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the context
>> menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the options
>> in the menu.  NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard layout)
>> presses the right mouse button.  Depending on exactly where the mouse is
>> on
>> screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost always
>> give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain whether
>> the menu appears.
>>
>>
>> Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
>>> Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
>>> windows 10 64 bit pc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manoj
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.swar-ras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.swar-ras.com
>
>
>
>


--
http://www.swar-ras.com





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and the application key

Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

INFO - __main__ (21:28:09.477):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.243):
Config dir: C:\Users\manmu\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (21:28:10.243):
Loading config: C:\Users\manmu\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.398):
NVDA version 2019.2.1
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.398):
Using Windows version 10.0.18362 workstation
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.398):
Using Python version 2.7.16 (v2.7.16:413a49145e, Mar 4 2019,
01:30:55) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.398):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.398):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - core.main (21:28:10.487):
Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them.
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (21:28:11.763):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (21:28:11.763):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (21:28:11.763):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (21:28:11.778):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (21:28:11.778):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (21:28:11.832):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (21:28:11.848):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (21:28:12.233):
NVDA initialized
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(21:31:50.920):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Microsoft Edge'
role: ROLE_LISTITEM
states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object
at 0x053D59F0>
Python class mro: (<class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
description: None
location: RectLTWH(left=0, top=203, width=76, height=85)
value: None
appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5528) at
address 5353d50>
appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'
appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.18362.1'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 65946
windowClassName: u'SysListView32'
windowControlID: 1
windowStyle: 1442855488
extendedWindowStyle: 0
windowThreadID: 1188
windowText: u'FolderView'
displayText: u'MicrosoftEdge'
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x91a0d30 at 529a260>
IAccessibleChildID: 3
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65946, objectID=-4, childID=3
IAccessible accName: u'Microsoft Edge'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED,
STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)
IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not
found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accValue: None
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(21:31:51.005):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Microsoft Edge'
role: ROLE_LISTITEM
states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_SELECTED
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: False
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object
at 0x053D59F0>
Python class mro: (<class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
description: None
location: RectLTWH(left=0, top=203, width=76, height=85)
value: None
appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5528) at
address 5353d50>
appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'
appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.18362.1'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 65946
windowClassName: u'SysListView32'
windowControlID: 1
windowStyle: 1442855488
extendedWindowStyle: 0
windowThreadID: 1188
windowText: u'FolderView'
displayText: u'MicrosoftEdge'
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x91a0d30 at 529a260>
IAccessibleChildID: 3
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65946, objectID=-4, childID=3
IAccessible accName: u'Microsoft Edge'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED,
STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE,
STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922946)
IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not
found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accValue: None

On 10/7/19, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you send a log to the list when you get this to happen? Hit nvda
plus. f1 twice ad copy the text to the clipboard and paste it in a reply
to this message.

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[website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com) This is also our libsyn page as
well.
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On 7 Oct 2019, at 18:18, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some
synthesizers
read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might
have
the latest version. Otherwise it's available from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for
updates. We must find a way to release point releases without making
it
look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj
<manmusical9@gmail.com>
wrote:

Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But
at
no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus
F10
but with no success.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Manoj,

When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it
has
opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it
usually
announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?

When you arrow through the context menu options does it report
anything?

If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many
places
Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the
context
menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the
options
in the menu. NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard
layout)
presses the right mouse button. Depending on exactly where the
mouse is
on
screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost
always
give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain
whether
the menu appears.


Are you using any NVDA add-ons? If you press NVDA+Q then down
arrow to
"Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj
<manmusical9@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Friends,
Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
windows 10 64 bit pc.

Best,
Manoj

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--
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Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
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Vocalizer Expressive

Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...>
 

Good Evening.

I was wondering what voices and languages Nuance will be adding to Vocalizer. I use JFW 2020b2 and I know that the updated version of Vocalizer is coming in the second quarter of 2020. What I don’t know is what languages and voices are coming for this release. If somebody who is using Vocalizer Expressive 2.2 can bring up a list of languages and voices Vocalizer supports, please E-Mail me. Thanks.


Re: NVDA and the application key

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you send a log to the list when you get this to happen? Hit nvda plus. f1 twice ad copy the text to the clipboard and paste it in a reply to this message.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Oct 2019, at 18:18, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some synthesizers read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might have the latest version.  Otherwise it's available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for updates.  We must find a way to release point releases without making it look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
> to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But at
> no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus F10
> but with no success.
>
> Manoj
>
> On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Manoj,
>>
>> When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it has
>> opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it usually
>> announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?
>>
>> When you arrow through the context menu options does it report anything?
>>
>> If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
>> SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many places
>> Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the context
>> menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the options
>> in the menu.  NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard layout)
>> presses the right mouse button.  Depending on exactly where the mouse is
>> on
>> screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost always
>> give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain whether
>> the menu appears.
>>
>>
>> Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
>>> Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
>>> windows 10 64 bit pc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manoj
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.swar-ras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.swar-ras.com
>
>
>
>


--
http://www.swar-ras.com





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and the application key

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Manoj,

The latest update to NVDA is 2019 point 2 point 1, but some synthesizers read this as February 1 2019, so I think that sounds like you might have the latest version.  Otherwise it's available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download or from the Help menu, check for updates.  We must find a way to release point releases without making it look like a date :)

Did you try restarting with add-ons disabled?

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Just to clarify,

The latest update of NVDA that I installed said Feb 2019. Hope I am
not missing anything.

Manoj

On 10/7/19, Manoj Govindraj via Groups.Io
<manmusical9=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The context menu opens for sure, as I pressed the up arrow key twice
> to choose the rename option and it opens up the rename window. But at
> no point does NVDA announce or report anything. I tried shift plus F10
> but with no success.
>
> Manoj
>
> On 10/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Manoj,
>>
>> When you say it's not announcing the options, does it tell you it has
>> opened a menu (the exact wording varies between programs, but it usually
>> announces some variation of "menu", "submenu", etc)?
>>
>> When you arrow through the context menu options does it report anything?
>>
>> If it isn't reporting anything, is it definitely opening the menu?
>> SHIFT+F10 is another way to open the context menu, and in many places
>> Using NVDA 2019.2 on Windows 10 version 18362.1, NVDA reports the context
>> menu for me in all the programs I've tried recently, and then the options
>> in the menu.  NUMPAD Multiply (or NVDA+] if using laptop keyboard layout)
>> presses the right mouse button.  Depending on exactly where the mouse is
>> on
>> screen, the menu presented might be different, but it will almost always
>> give you a context menu, so would work in this case to ascertain whether
>> the menu appears.
>>
>>
>> Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  If you press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart with add-ons disabled" does the context menu work then?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 7:28 AM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Lately NVDA is not announcing the options for me when I press the
>>> Application key. I have the latest update of NVDA installed on my
>>> windows 10 64 bit pc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Manoj
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.swar-ras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.swar-ras.com
>
>
>
>


--
http://www.swar-ras.com





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager