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Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Mallard
 

I can't wait! If they're all this good, may you be blessed forever!


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/03/2019 12:29, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:

Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for
this one!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking
about,
it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The
shortcut to
get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on
can be
downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi!

Right now I'm not storing any of the images for privacy reasons. The descriptions are going to get better though, eventually the add-on will also do face detection, emotion recognition, icon classification and some sort of OCR.

Regarding videos I'd love to know more about the use case, it's doable from a technical standpoint. I'm reachable at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com.


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi! Funny you said, I'm actually working on an NVDA add-on to solve captchas by connecting to an anti captcha service right now... The current Image Describer add-on will probably not solve the captchas though.

It'll be for free if you solve under a certain amount of captchas per day, would love to have some test users before I release anything though, please contact at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com if you're interested.


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi, it's Oliver, the author of this add-on!

Awesome that you like it! If you have any suggestions for improvements or ideas for other add-ons don't hesitate to contact me at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:27 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene!

Thank you so much!

I can’t wait until I can try this add-on!

I would love to hear my pictures described.

I have wanted this for a long time!

NVDA gives me a present so often, because of all of these great add-ons LOL!

Thanks!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA

 

Hi

 

Until it goes up on the nvda community website I can add it to my website or at least a link to the page and the short cut to start it so more people can take it as they say for a test drive.

I will link it off the nvda add ons page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

For more people to try it out  the add on author should have it put on the add on website and see what you have to do to meet its criteria.

Just been playing around with it to see what it says on images etc seems to work well. I might even try it on home photoes etc to see what it says and what is in it. My wife is usually good and gives a description of who or what it is as in naming the photo etc.

I noticed also if it is named it gives you other descriptions of what is in the image.

 

I will do this in the next day or so.

As in adding it to my website until it is approved.

 

Gene nz

 

On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I installed it, but have not played with it.  It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.

I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on.  There is a link there to its download page:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


 

 


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi! 

If you're willing to put on the website that'd be awesome, more add-ons are coming soon as well!

A review is currently going on at https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topic/automatic_alt_text/30298349?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,30298349

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com


On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 03:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

Until it goes up on the nvda community website I can add it to my website or at least a link to the page and the short cut to start it so more people can take it as they say for a test drive.

I will link it off the nvda add ons page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

For more people to try it out  the add on author should have it put on the add on website and see what you have to do to meet its criteria.

Just been playing around with it to see what it says on images etc seems to work well. I might even try it on home photoes etc to see what it says and what is in it. My wife is usually good and gives a description of who or what it is as in naming the photo etc.

I noticed also if it is named it gives you other descriptions of what is in the image.

 

I will do this in the next day or so.

As in adding it to my website until it is approved.

 

Gene nz

 

On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I installed it, but have not played with it.  It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.

I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on.  There is a link there to its download page:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: μTorrent 3.5.4: NVDA does't read the name in the list of entries.

ChrisLeo
 

Thanks! The F2 key is very useful in this case.
Cheers,

Chris.

In reply to marcio via Groups.Io, 15/03/2019 11:54:

Actually this program has this little annoyance with NVDA, and I suspect
it does with any screen reader.

As a workaround, when you reach the point where NVDA reports about the
download in question, just press F2.

Yes, that's the command to rename a file, but doing it you'll be able to
see the current name of the download you're focused into and after
you're done with it you can just press esc to exit it without changing
the info on the field.


Hth



Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


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Em 15/03/2019 07:45, ChrisLeo escreveu:
Hi,
in the lists of entries, like Download or inSeeding etc., apears a
column for the names of each item in list.
NVDA reads from size column to the following columns, but not the
name of the selected entry.

Does anyone know about uTorrent settings more friendly for NVDA?

I'm using NVDA 2018.4.1 and last beta 2019.1BETA1, uTorrent 3.5.4
portable.

Thanks,


Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Oliver Edholm
 

Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:
Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for this one!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about,
it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to
get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be
downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

Salam every one.
i always condemn any terrorist attack in all over the world
and i always sincerely pray that we can see absolute peace, kindness,
mercy and love in the world very soon which are the message of Islam.
as always my signitures indicate, our prophet, prophet Mohammad,
(peace and blessings of Allah upon him and his household) are mercy
for the entire creation according to the holy Quran.
if someone is interested in studying Islam and what are the messages of Islam,
please see my answer in this link.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-things-about-Islam-even-non-Muslims-admire/answer/Zahra-Ayat-2

On 3/15/19, zahra ayat <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
thanks. please email me off list that i send my skype account for you
or chatting with email.
God bless you!

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Yes I have skype, but no I don't really care for skype 8, I needed it
for a job, but well timezones for me suck.

You can email me offlist and we can chat that way if you care to, and or
I can add you to skype and we can skype chat, trouble is I only have
time late at night and its almost to late right now.


The main reason I am up at midnight is because I am waiting for it to
cool down enough so I can go to bed.



On 16/03/2019 12:08 AM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun.
do you have still skype account?
i really wish to chat you on skype.

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well we can throw this onto chat if you really care to which I don't
really right now.

There is one place I go but there are a lot of trolls about there that
just like drama, obviously if it appears on there I'll respond to it
but
I will not start a topic on agnet, what usually happens is that a lot
of
troublemakers start a flame war for no reason, so its better unless you
need to talk to shut your mouth because you won't get thanked for
opening it if they get interested in you.



On 15/03/2019 10:48 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However, if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this
one more suited to the debate.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in
Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're
touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire
country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie









--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

thanks. please email me off list that i send my skype account for you
or chatting with email.
God bless you!

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Yes I have skype, but no I don't really care for skype 8, I needed it
for a job, but well timezones for me suck.

You can email me offlist and we can chat that way if you care to, and or
I can add you to skype and we can skype chat, trouble is I only have
time late at night and its almost to late right now.


The main reason I am up at midnight is because I am waiting for it to
cool down enough so I can go to bed.



On 16/03/2019 12:08 AM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun.
do you have still skype account?
i really wish to chat you on skype.

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well we can throw this onto chat if you really care to which I don't
really right now.

There is one place I go but there are a lot of trolls about there that
just like drama, obviously if it appears on there I'll respond to it but
I will not start a topic on agnet, what usually happens is that a lot of
troublemakers start a flame war for no reason, so its better unless you
need to talk to shut your mouth because you won't get thanked for
opening it if they get interested in you.



On 15/03/2019 10:48 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However, if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this
one more suited to the debate.
Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in
Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're
touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire
country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

Yes I have skype, but no I don't really care for skype 8, I needed it for a job, but well timezones for me suck.

You can email me offlist and we can chat that way if you care to, and or I can add you to skype and we can skype chat, trouble is I only have time late at night and its almost to late right now.


The main reason I am up at midnight is because I am waiting for it to cool down enough so I can go to bed.

On 16/03/2019 12:08 AM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun.
do you have still skype account?
i really wish to chat you on skype.

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well we can throw this onto chat if you really care to which I don't
really right now.

There is one place I go but there are a lot of trolls about there that
just like drama, obviously if it appears on there I'll respond to it but
I will not start a topic on agnet, what usually happens is that a lot of
troublemakers start a flame war for no reason, so its better unless you
need to talk to shut your mouth because you won't get thanked for
opening it if they get interested in you.



On 15/03/2019 10:48 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However, if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this
one more suited to the debate.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in
Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're
touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie







Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

hi shaun.
do you have still skype account?
i really wish to chat you on skype.

On 3/15/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well we can throw this onto chat if you really care to which I don't
really right now.

There is one place I go but there are a lot of trolls about there that
just like drama, obviously if it appears on there I'll respond to it but
I will not start a topic on agnet, what usually happens is that a lot of
troublemakers start a flame war for no reason, so its better unless you
need to talk to shut your mouth because you won't get thanked for
opening it if they get interested in you.



On 15/03/2019 10:48 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However, if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this
one more suited to the debate.
Brian

bglists@...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in
Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're
touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

Well we can throw this onto chat if you really care to which I don't really right now.

There is one place I go but there are a lot of trolls about there that just like drama, obviously if it appears on there I'll respond to it but I will not start a topic on agnet, what usually happens is that a lot of troublemakers start a flame war for no reason, so its better unless you need to talk to shut your mouth because you won't get thanked for opening it if they get interested in you.

On 15/03/2019 10:48 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However,  if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this one more suited to the debate.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie






Re: μTorrent 3.5.4: NVDA does't read the name in the list of entries.

 

Actually this program has this little annoyance with NVDA, and I suspect it does with any screen reader.

As a workaround, when you reach the point where NVDA reports about the download in question, just press F2.

Yes, that's the command to rename a file, but doing it you'll be able to see the current name of the download you're focused into and after you're done with it you can just press esc to exit it without changing the info on the field.


Hth



Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 15/03/2019 07:45, ChrisLeo escreveu:

Hi,
in the lists of entries, like Download or inSeeding etc., apears a column for the names of each item in list.
NVDA reads from size column  to the following columns, but not the name of the selected entry.

Does anyone know    about uTorrent settings more friendly for NVDA?

I'm using NVDA 2018.4.1 and last beta 2019.1BETA1, uTorrent 3.5.4 portable.

Thanks,


Tone Master: Anyone remember this add-on?

 

Hi folks,

So, anyone remember of this one?

And even, anyone is using it right now?

I just downloaded it and did a small test file to start with, the result actually came out quite good if you ask me.

Now it would be even cooler if I could ever find a folder with files to put into the add-on or even if anyone wants to get into this adventure of making their own files with me.

So what you guys'd say? :)


--

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook


μTorrent 3.5.4: NVDA does't read the name in the list of entries.

ChrisLeo
 

Hi,
in the lists of entries, like Download or inSeeding etc., apears a column for the names of each item in list.
NVDA reads from size column to the following columns, but not the name of the selected entry.

Does anyone know about uTorrent settings more friendly for NVDA?

I'm using NVDA 2018.4.1 and last beta 2019.1BETA1, uTorrent 3.5.4 portable.

Thanks,
--
Chris.


Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes, seconded, Hate crime has no place in the world.
It shows stupidity and lack of understanding.
However, if people feel strongly, there are other platforms than this one more suited to the debate.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...


Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie



Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Devin Prater
 

It seems to be using Google's AI. If an image is too large, it feeds NVDA the HTML of that page saying the image is too large, or something like that.

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 2:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA
 
What we need is some sort of cloud repository I'd imagine that would be
quite big.

What would you use and how much would it cost, I don't have the cash for
a major subscription as such, but I guess I could manage something like
1-2 bucks a month or something.



On 15/03/2019 7:36 PM, Lenron wrote:
> This is pretty cool. What I am wondering about is if you feed this
> thing pictures will it learn what items are and get better? Like a
> chair book car even car type would be nice. I would love this for many
> many pictures if it did that. Also it would be cool if machine
> learning could tell us what things are in non described videos. That
> will be the day.
>
> On 3/15/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
>> Hi Ivan,
>>
>>
>> Did you try it with capchas and if so how did it work?
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/2019 5:47 PM, Ivan pivac wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I installed the image app and found it worked extremely well. The
>>> download and installation was seemless.  Although I'll need to use it
>>> more, to establish its capabilities, my immediate impression is that
>>> the add on is a very useful tool for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> On 15/03/2019 10:35 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it also does not show under the nvda user configuration directory as
>>>> a add on either. so I am guessing it just did not install unless it
>>>> was compatible with this version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did any one get it to work in earlier versions of nvda? and if so how
>>>> did you do it?
>>>>
>>>> Was it just a matter of installing the add on and using the shortcut
>>>> or did you have to sign up so you could use it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did a while ago see reference to this add on which did have more
>>>> information but do not know where it has gone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gene nz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/03/2019 10:23 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add
>>>>> on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no
>>>>> real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it
>>>>> also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to
>>>>> work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with
>>>>> the latest version of nvda.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown
>>>>> in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the
>>>>> explore user configuration directory i think it is called.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original
>>>>>> message, so I'm repeating it here.  The actual download page for
>>>>>> the add on is listed here: http://www.screenreader.ai/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that
>>>>>> be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under
>>>>>> the hierarchy:  Community Developed but Unvetted.   There are scads
>>>>>> of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have
>>>>>> little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same
>>>>>> would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central
>>>>>> repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under
>>>>>> Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html.
>>>>>>  It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at
>>>>>> the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your
>>>>>> own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process.
>>>>>>  So many of them are just great, and work just fine.   A mechanism
>>>>>> on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has
>>>>>> broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on
>>>>>> itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that
>>>>>> persists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>>>>
>>>>>> */A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when
>>>>>> the need for illusion is deep./*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
>>>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one
>>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out
>>>>> how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go
>>>>> to the following links. Software available
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>>> computers
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
>>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
>>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
>>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>
>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the
>>>> APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of
>>>> their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out
>>>> how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>
>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go
>>>> to the following links. Software available
>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>> computers
>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>
>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following
>>>> link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page
>>>> contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around
>>>> the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

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When asked they always say they will release it on other platforms, but I suspect its quite low down the pecking order. The whole project is in fact a way to get feedback on their AI system as far as I can tell, and as such I'd have thought putting it on other platforms might help them tweak the thing. Maybe they have had other priorities like making sure Windows 10 does not brick 1 in 10 machines every half year... grin.
Incidentally Seeing AI had an update yesterday, and Be My Eyes has added Google helpdesk to their free pro help section.
Just for info.
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Well,


Microsoft isn't even porting Seeing AI to Android... I don't think
they'll want to make it available for Windows, but I hope I'm wrong...


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 04:23, Kwork ha scritto:
As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis





Re: O.T.: I heard the news about New Zealand...

 

Thanks.

I was out shopping so never got the start of this.

The cops got 4 people, no idea why they went nuts.

I am not muslam but there were community leaders that spoke about that, everyone is holding on tight.

Australia has had a few attacks, its logical we may get 1 or 2, especially since we started supporting the international terror fighting forces.

Of course back when the us was a good place.

There is so much war in the eastern parts of the war, and its never ending.

Of course my fear is not so much the terrorist attack today but exactly how stable the international forces fighting them are.

With trump venting every 5 minutes, and threatening to pull out of the fight and all the issues in america with all the school shootings, part of me thinks if the people on one side of the world want to take eachother out, who am I to stop that, some of these wars have been going on for ages and will not stop any time soon.

And as far as that is that would be fine except in the last half century, for whatever reason or another the us mainly and maybe a few other western countries decided to take sides in wars that were not our own, for our own selfish reasons be it resources or whatever.

As a result this current issue is our fault partly and maybe fully.

To be honest after hearing the mistakes in arak, and the news about what happened in irak, and now afganistan with the village that got torchered by western soldiers not to mention a few other things going on, pluss all the issues with us supporting sides for our own reasons, its no wander we are being attacked.

The muslams at least some of them even back to before isis probably have a real good reason to hate us, I know I would if I were on the other side.

What is really sad is that we like to cover our asses when anything wrong happens over with our agents, and soldiers, and we probably cover more up than we reveal.

Everyone has their own agendas, some of them are good, and some of them mean well but don't come out right.

THat line, the road to hell is paved with good intentions sort of rings here.

Oil got us into the east, and look at the trouble its caused us.

Even if you take out all the wars and corrupt governments we technically invaded their terratory, to steal their stuff then went back.

Its happened before to races not muslam or not even like us, in new zealand the maori, in australia the abos, in the us the blacks.

Some say all these agendas are going on, probably will for ever.

Point is I doubt its a cut and dried situation.

It just had to happen in christchurch though which is a bit of a blow, after 3 earthquakes that did a lot of dammage to the central city they have this.

Yesterday a local politition was attacked, today is also a climate change student strike.

One thing is for sure, there is no fake news, we are not blaming the muslams for the attack everyone including the government is holding solid.

The fact we have tried to be as secure as we can doesn't rule it out.

Saying that, being on one side of the war against terror has always got me thinking that we will eventually catch some flack.

Well today we have, its ma relief that maybe it was our day, it may not happen again hopefully but there is always a chance.

Everyone is staying open, the difference unlike australia our closest naighbour we are not holding people with out charge in detention centres till they go home.

Stopping all the alegals aand chriminals I sort of half supported, but that pluss none of us having rights over there anymore basically means that our closest nation is isolating itself and that is more of a concern than this terror attack actually is.

Its not really effected us as such but maybe we are lucky, maybe we just rumble through it like we always do.

Especially since one of those attackers came from australia.

That country is closing up big time and it is a concern.

People have attempted to have us close down, but extra security and barriors may just make things worse.

We are mostly peacefull and neutral and I think for now we will stay that way.

No one is crying for revenge not even the local muslam community leaders, our country is a reasonably safe place after all as long as its a 1 off and such.

Even though the news has not shown what went on fully actual hacked coppies of the entire event have made it to some of the international chat groups my family is on in other bits of the world and in aisian countries so a lot of people know and are sharing via whatsapp the entire thing in graphic detail.

Just like the quakes though I was out shopping and only noticed that there was news when they shouldn't have been any on my usually quiet dance station.

It is a concern if there are more and in bigger citties, this was targeted though.

I do hope that this event dies down quickly now we have the bad guys in jail and soon.

Reporting this and keeping it going isn't good for the country.



This guy was targeting either muslams or refugees for some reason, I feel numb to all the wars going on and part of

On 15/03/2019 9:28 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello friend from New Zealand,


I woke up to very sad news this morning.


I heard about the at least 40 killed and many injured people in Christchurch, and my heart broke.


Please, embrace your country on my behalf.


These things open deep wounds in the entire community, whether we're touch personally or not by the attacks.


My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones, and to the entire country.


A big hug from the antipodes,


Ollie




Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

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Yes thename Jean is gene most of the time on an Iphone but occasionally jorn.
No idea why, but I suspect context has a lot to do with it for whoever made the synth. Platform of use is often not relevant.
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I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.

On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile