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Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

 

I actually was thinking about a way for making this add-on or whatever it may be.

I have concluded that if an add-on can keep an eye on the user's keyboard and commands they type, it's just a matter of, if it's on, each time such user press a valid key to perform any NVDA action, it would add the NVDA key to the command.

I don't know if it's possible nor if it's easy as I just described, though, as I'm not a developer. But that's my two cents :)


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Em 14/03/2019 23:36, Travis Siegel escreveu:

I didn't mean the enter key on the number pad, I meant the enter key on the main keyboard, but regardless, it was just a suggestion, any key combination will do.

On 3/14/2019 7:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I thought nvda enter did somethingn already, or am I getting my views confused? It's ben a very very long day, and it's not yet over . Lol!

On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:49, Travis Siegel wrote:

It really wouldn't be that difficult for the developers to add a simple toggle (maybe something like nvda-enter), that would simply act like the nvda key was down no matter what other key you hit.  If I can find this numlock add-on, perhaps I'll hack that to do this myself.  I'm an experienced programmer, but python is not my language of choice, and NVDA specifically is not a program to which I have familarized myself with it's source code, so having samples of something to see how it's done would make creating a different add-on to toggle the nvda key into always on mode wouldn't be that hard at that point, but this is something one of the regular NVDA developers would have little trouble completing.  Perhaps an enhancement request should be submitted, and someone could add it as time permits.

On 3/14/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

 

What's the Numlock add-on? Never heard about such one.


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Em 14/03/2019 15:27, Chris via Groups.Io escreveu:

Maybe one of the addon developers can create a addon not too much unlike the num lock addon for example

 

Just a thought

 

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 14 March 2019 17:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

 

Which is why I'm suggesting g a key stroke to do this. If I hit vo semi it will lock the vo keys. Hitting vo semi again and not just semi will unlock the vo keys. So this should in theory be possible in nvda. Hitting nvda plus something would cause the key to lock, hitting that same key again would cause nvda's modifier to unlock.

 

On 14 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Gene wrote:

How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 

 

NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

 

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Firefox add ons managerseems OK now

 

YAY! I can't wait to update it.

I didn't get this update as yet, so hopefully it'll show up. May it be soon, I would say.


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Em 14/03/2019 06:24, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

For those having issues in this dialogue it seems to be OK in Firefox 66 beta, as I just installed it and the  listbox works correctly again, indeed the other issue of sometimes truncating the add on name seems better as well. I tested the 64 bit version.
Brian

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Re: listing open windows with NVDA

 

If I'm not going wrong, there was an add-on that would allow us to see all the windows opened at the time, including, I think, those you are talking about.

I don't remember the add-on's name, though. Sorry :(


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Em 13/03/2019 04:48, mhysnm1964@... escreveu:

All,

 

How do you find floating windows with NVDA other than using the object nav? In Jaws there is a hot key that shows all open app and windows. I cannot find a similar command.

 

A floating window for those who might not know the terminology. Is a window that is open by a program and is not attached to the program and some of them are not even attached to the application ring (alt tab). If the program does not place the focus correctly into the window. Then you cannot access the window by the keyboard. Thus the workaround which Jaws provides of listing all the windows helps here.

 

Hope someone can help.

 

Second question, just thought of. Are you able to remap keys in NVDA?

 


Re: NV Access at CSUN

Arlene
 

Hi I hope so as well!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: March 14, 2019 6:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access at CSUN

 

I hope there will be.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access at CSUN

 

hi,

Will there be audio archives of this presentation?

On 3/10/2019 1:36 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

We're away at the CSUN conference in Anaheim, California for the next week.  If anyone is going, we're presenting and would love to see you:

 

           Title: NVDA: Updates, new features and the 2019 Outlook

           Date:  Wednesday, March 13, 2019

           Time: 9:00 AM

           Location: Grand Ballroom G&H

 

Otherwise, I'll be back in a week and a bit to catch up on the group.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

 


Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Kwork
 

As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis


Re: Nvda and the International phonetic Alphabet, (IPA)

 

Enes,

        The way I read the open issue is that the function of reading a phonetic transcription as it sounds is what's wanted.  It's not 100% clear, but strongly suggested.

        The way I read the request here is to read a phonetic transcription not as it sounds, but broken into atomic units, and not by sound, but by character name of each phoneme (not the sound of the phoneme itself).  Very much more akin to reading words letter by letter, but where each letter is the IPA character name (or description, as vowels are generally described rather than named).
--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

 

I don't know how it may vary by synth, but even lowercase 'nvda' is not pronounced letter by letter like uppercase is.  I've tweaked that via default dictionary to avoid being driven around the bend.  

At least the computer-based screen readers all (though I haven't yet played "under the hood" with Narrator) give a pretty direct mechanism to fix what needs fixing whether generally or for a specific synth.   I've done no deep diving on smartphone based screen reader configuration.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep yep. I use the nvda regular enter to execute an action in object nav, but yeah I'm sue someone can come up with something. Im too tired right now to think as my sleep aid is, well, putting me to sleep for the night.

On 14 Mar 2019, at 19:36, Travis Siegel wrote:

I didn't mean the enter key on the number pad, I meant the enter key on the main keyboard, but regardless, it was just a suggestion, any key combination will do.

On 3/14/2019 7:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I thought nvda enter did somethingn already, or am I getting my views confused? It's ben a very very long day, and it's not yet over . Lol!

On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:49, Travis Siegel wrote:

It really wouldn't be that difficult for the developers to add a simple toggle (maybe something like nvda-enter), that would simply act like the nvda key was down no matter what other key you hit.  If I can find this numlock add-on, perhaps I'll hack that to do this myself.  I'm an experienced programmer, but python is not my language of choice, and NVDA specifically is not a program to which I have familarized myself with it's source code, so having samples of something to see how it's done would make creating a different add-on to toggle the nvda key into always on mode wouldn't be that hard at that point, but this is something one of the regular NVDA developers would have little trouble completing.  Perhaps an enhancement request should be submitted, and someone could add it as time permits.

On 3/14/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




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Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.

On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile



Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I didn't mean the enter key on the number pad, I meant the enter key on the main keyboard, but regardless, it was just a suggestion, any key combination will do.

On 3/14/2019 7:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I thought nvda enter did somethingn already, or am I getting my views confused? It's ben a very very long day, and it's not yet over . Lol!

On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:49, Travis Siegel wrote:

It really wouldn't be that difficult for the developers to add a simple toggle (maybe something like nvda-enter), that would simply act like the nvda key was down no matter what other key you hit.  If I can find this numlock add-on, perhaps I'll hack that to do this myself.  I'm an experienced programmer, but python is not my language of choice, and NVDA specifically is not a program to which I have familarized myself with it's source code, so having samples of something to see how it's done would make creating a different add-on to toggle the nvda key into always on mode wouldn't be that hard at that point, but this is something one of the regular NVDA developers would have little trouble completing.  Perhaps an enhancement request should be submitted, and someone could add it as time permits.

On 3/14/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: NV Access at CSUN

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I hope there will be.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access at CSUN

 

hi,

Will there be audio archives of this presentation?

On 3/10/2019 1:36 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

We're away at the CSUN conference in Anaheim, California for the next week.  If anyone is going, we're presenting and would love to see you:

 

           Title: NVDA: Updates, new features and the 2019 Outlook

           Date:  Wednesday, March 13, 2019

           Time: 9:00 AM

           Location: Grand Ballroom G&H

 

Otherwise, I'll be back in a week and a bit to catch up on the group.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 


Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Gene
 

That's how your synthesizer says the words.  Which one are you using?  that difference has nothing to do with NVDA.  Such things, like saying St period as either saint or street, are decisions usually made by whomever programmed the synthesizer.
 
You can change the behavior, but not necessarily consistently, using the speech dictionaries.
Gene
----- original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile



Re: nvda is not working with java control panel

enes sarıbaş
 

As NVDA devs haven't added 64 bit support, you can only work with 32 bit Java apps. 64 bit ones simply will not work.

On 3/13/2019 1:42 AM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi all

When I am in Java control panel nvda just says unknown and that's it.

Windows 7 OS.

Regards Adrian Pocock


Re: Nvda and the International phonetic Alphabet, (IPA)

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

There is an open issue for this. Could you examine the following issue, and perhaps comment?

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2922

On 3/12/2019 7:18 PM, Lev wrote:


 

Hello,

I have noticed that  espeak reads some symbols of the international phonetic alphabet; however, this can not be done by other synthetic voices, so my question is this:

How to make that nvda reads correctly those symbols regardless of the synthetizer?

Or, how to make that other synthetizers read those symbols?  For instance, vocalizer.

 

I got the Unicode transcription for all the symbols that I want.

The syntaxis is this:

U+00E6=Ash

Where the term “ash” is the proper name for that particular symbol.

 

So, is there a file inside the installation folder of nvda or user settings  where I can paste  that syntaxis to have nvda reading all those symbols?

 

Thanks for any info.

 

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Re: Issues navigating Google Scholar search results

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

I just press up arrow and hit enter on the HTML link.

On 3/11/2019 11:57 PM, Corey Collins wrote:

Hello NVDA Group

Has anyone stumbled across the following navigation issue using NVDA and Google Scholar? Discovered working with a university student trying to conduct research.

Go to Google Scholar and conduct a search. As an example, go to the following search 'traits characteristic entrepreneur'.

Navigate the page using the H key to jump to each H3 search result, the H key will focus to the H3 link and you can navigate to the search result.

Some results appear with a [HTML] or [PDF] reference at the start of the H3, this reference is a SPAN tag nested inside the H3 but not within the link reference.

When you navigate to the search result with this reference, the H3 is read out but focus is not directed to the link. If you tab back and forwards you will eventually focus to the link to navigate to the search result.

In the above example, try navigating to the 4th search result, which has a [HTML] reference at the start of the search result.

In the student’s experience, this proved difficult to effectively navigate to search results with the HTML/PDF reference at the start.

This issue does not occur in other screen readers like VoiceOver.

If the HTML/PDF text is wrapped within the H3 and link reference it works fine.

Does anyone have a workaround besides tabbing back and forward? Or is this a bug?

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Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Sile
 

Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

David Moore
 

Hey all!

I just installed the add-on, and it is describing my pictures that I took right now!

This add-on is working so well.

Wow, thank you so much for this add-on!

This will be huge!

David Moore

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA

 

I installed it, but have not played with it.  It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.

I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on.  There is a link there to its download page:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

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Re: image describer addon for NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi David


the link to the reddit page is  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

?From off that page it will give you a link to the add on and also says the shortcut to start it.


So it can be used now there was a message from the guy that made it in a previous email. all i will be doing is adding it to the nvda add on page and also putting it under recently updated on the main page so more people can try it out so they know about it.


He would probably get more coverage if it goes on the official nvda community add on website but not sure how long that takes and who runs it.


gene nz


On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I installed it, but have not played with it.  It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.

I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on.  There is a link there to its download page:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

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Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Gene
 

In the laptop layout it does what Numpad insert Numpad enter does--performs the default action on the selected item.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

I thought nvda enter did somethingn already, or am I getting my views confused? It's ben a very very long day, and it's not yet over . Lol!

On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:49, Travis Siegel wrote:

It really wouldn't be that difficult for the developers to add a simple toggle (maybe something like nvda-enter), that would simply act like the nvda key was down no matter what other key you hit.  If I can find this numlock add-on, perhaps I'll hack that to do this myself.  I'm an experienced programmer, but python is not my language of choice, and NVDA specifically is not a program to which I have familarized myself with it's source code, so having samples of something to see how it's done would make creating a different add-on to toggle the nvda key into always on mode wouldn't be that hard at that point, but this is something one of the regular NVDA developers would have little trouble completing.  Perhaps an enhancement request should be submitted, and someone could add it as time permits.

On 3/14/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
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>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
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>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
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