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Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Dan Beaver
 

Actually, each synth has its own pronunciation table.  This table tells it how to pronounce strings.


the problem is that someone set those tables up so that it tries to figure out words from partial strings and grammatical rules. Of course, in English this is very difficult.   They didn't organize the tables so that they are truly alphabetical and so some of the strings are in the wrong order.


The result is that some words end up garbage.  It is fixed by either the developers fixing their tables or else folks like us adding an entry in the pronunciation dictionary for our systems that fix each one as we find them.  They generally use the dictionaries on our systems before resorting to the tables in the synth itself.  That is why we can fix them if we choose to.


Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)

On 3/15/2019 1:01 PM, Gene wrote:
Maybe it’s a proper name in one or more languages.  Some synthesizers pronounce the word "reading" as "redding" when capitalized for
Redding Pensylvania.  So, a sentence with reading capitalized at the beginning, would be spoken "Redding this book was a particularly memorable experience."
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

I’ve just noticed that voiceover on the iPhone does the same thing! What is it about the word tornado!

Sile
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:38 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
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> Il 15/03/2019 03:40, Travis Siegel ha scritto:
>> I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.
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>>> On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?
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Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Brian Tew
 

my voiceover reads it correctly. maybe it's the particular voice you use.


Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Mallard
 

It's about Vocalizer, rather than about tornado...


Voiceover uses Vocalizer express, the same voices we have in NVDA. I guess that's the problem.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/03/2019 17:52, Sile via Groups.Io ha scritto:
I’ve just noticed that voiceover on the iPhone does the same thing! What is it about the word tornado!

Sile
On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:38 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:

Could it be Vocalizer? I must try that...

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 03:40, Travis Siegel ha scritto:
I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.

On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile





Re: μTorrent 3.5.4: NVDA does't read the name in the list of entries.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 


I did stop using torrents as almost everything I got had viruses or malware included in it or took literally weeks to get!
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] μTorrent 3.5.4: NVDA does't read the name in the list of entries.

Actually this program has this little annoyance with NVDA, and I suspect it does with any screen reader.

As a workaround, when you reach the point where NVDA reports about the download in question, just press F2.

Yes, that's the command to rename a file, but doing it you'll be able to see the current name of the download you're focused into and after you're done with it you can just press esc to exit it without changing the info on the field.


Hth



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Em 15/03/2019 07:45, ChrisLeo escreveu:
Hi,
in the lists of entries, like Download or inSeeding etc., apears a column for the names of each item in list.
NVDA reads from size column  to the following columns, but not the name of the selected entry.

Does anyone know    about uTorrent settings more friendly for NVDA?

I'm using NVDA 2018.4.1 and last beta 2019.1BETA1, uTorrent 3.5.4 portable.

Thanks,


Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Gene
 

Maybe it’s a proper name in one or more languages.  Some synthesizers pronounce the word "reading" as "redding" when capitalized for
Redding Pensylvania.  So, a sentence with reading capitalized at the beginning, would be spoken "Redding this book was a particularly memorable experience."
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

I’ve just noticed that voiceover on the iPhone does the same thing! What is it about the word tornado!

Sile
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:38 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
>
> Could it be Vocalizer? I must try that...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 15/03/2019 03:40, Travis Siegel ha scritto:
>> I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.
>>
>>> On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?
>>>
>>> Sile
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Re: Why does NVDA say torado instead of tornado?

Sile
 

I’ve just noticed that voiceover on the iPhone does the same thing! What is it about the word tornado!

Sile

On Mar 15, 2019, at 4:38 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:

Could it be Vocalizer? I must try that...

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 03:40, Travis Siegel ha scritto:
I haven't noticed this behavior on NVDA, but the iPhone does this all the time, and it irritates the hell out of me.

On 3/14/2019 7:43 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, why does NVDA say to Rado when the word tornado is capitalized but tornado when it is not?

Sile







Re: requesting link to chat group

 

Gene,

          The original query was:  "Can anyone provide the link to the chat group? I have few tech questions, not related to NVDA."   The intent, at least to me, was clearly that the address information to the NVDA Chat Subgroup, which I'll repeat here, is what was being sought.


Rosemarie Chavarria kindly provided this information initially, and we've since had a lot of thread drift, which is not unusual.

The day is soon to be upon us when the kind of attention to the nature of the topic being introduced that was shown by Sociohack AC will begin being enforced.  That attention is appreciated.

People need to be asking themselves the simple question, "Is what I'm about to ask related to using NVDA to get something done, or about configuring NVDA itself?," and if the answer is, "Yes," it's an NVDA main group topic and if it's, "No," it's either an NVDA Chat Group topic or a topic for another group entirely depending on who they wish to have reading and responding.

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Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Devin Prater
 

Okay, the only problem right now is, how will we know when there are updates to the addon? Joseph Lee on the Windows 10 group for screen reader users has made an addon updater that you could use, but how you can get in touch with him for that I'm not sure.
Devin Prater
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On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM Alina <alina.vidican.2014@...> wrote:

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

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In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Re: requesting link to chat group

Gene
 

It isn't clear what you are discussing.  the subject is for a link to a chat group.  Are you discussing that or the main lists?  Blindtech, the main list has a good deal more traffic.  I don't know how membership compares on the chat or the main lists. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] requesting link to chat group

I'm on this one as well, it in my humble opinion is much better and high traffic.

blind-techies+subscribe@groups.io and the moderators are wonderful.

On 14 Mar 2019, at 21:40, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

In case nobody came up with the address to the Blindtech list, it is blindtech+subscribe@groups.io.



Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 12/03/2019 13:06, Gene escreveu:
Perhaps there is more than one group with a similar name.  The Blindtech group, that is just named Blindtech is active.  I estimate I get about forty or fifty messages a day. 
 
I don't have the exact subscription address.  If someone doesn't send it, I'll check.
 
There is another similar list, Techtalk. 
 
To join, send a blank e-mail to:
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] requesting link to chat group

Can anyone provide the link to the chat group? I have few tech questions, not realted to NVDA. I tried the Blind tech group, but it's not very active.
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Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Weather Plus 5.0 15.03.2019 update available

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

What's an API key and where can I find it?

On 3/15/2019 9:02 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:

• Fixed bug, that returned an empty string if the wind speed in mph was 0.
• Fixed bug that caused sound effects not consistent with the time zone to be reproduced.
• adjusted the number of forecast days from 9 to 6 in readme.


Weather Plus can update itself, however you can download it directly from:


http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus5.0.nvda-addon
or from the pages:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus#main-content
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

If the file extension arrives as .zip,please correct it with .nvda-addon.

Cheers

adriano




Re: listing open windows with NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Jaws+F10 is equivalent to NVDA+F11 twice...

Rui


Às 05:00 de 15/03/2019, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

SisTray isn’t the one you’re trying to think of its name? With this one, NVDA+F11 twice brings up the Task ist, but I don’t think this is what is being wanted to be done? What’s wanted to be done is like Jaws’s Jaws+F10, which would be an awesome feature to have!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
El 14 mar 2019, a la(s) 10:30 p. m., marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io <mailto:marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>> escribió:

If I'm not going wrong, there was an add-on that would allow us to see all the windows opened at the time, including, I think, those you are talking about.

I don't remember the add-on's name, though. Sorry :(


Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
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Em 13/03/2019 04:48, mhysnm1964@... escreveu:

All,

How do you find floating windows with NVDA other than using the object nav? In Jaws there is a hot key that shows all open app and windows. I cannot find a similar command.

A floating window for those who might not know the terminology. Is a window that is open by a program and is not attached to the program and some of them are not even attached to the application ring (alt tab). If the program does not place the focus correctly into the window. Then you cannot access the window by the keyboard. Thus the workaround which Jaws provides of listing all the windows helps here.

Hope someone can help.

Second question, just thought of. Are you able to remap keys in NVDA?


Re: listing open windows with NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

NVDA developers do not find it necessary for NVDA to have such a command, because Windows has its own command ...

I do not agree and did make an addon to that, with the indispensable help of Rui Batista...

The other addon having a systray list function is NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin...

Rui Fontes


Às 05:51 de 15/03/2019, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:

No, actually I was talking about another add-on, which I really can't remember the name right now.
But if we ever had this option built-in to NVDA it would be quite nice indeed.
Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 15/03/2019 02:00, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:
SisTray isn’t the one you’re trying to think of its name? With this one, NVDA+F11 twice brings up the Task ist, but I don’t think this is what is being wanted to be done? What’s wanted to be done is like Jaws’s Jaws+F10, which would be an awesome feature to have!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 mar 2019, a la(s) 10:30 p. m., marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io <mailto:marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>> escribió:

If I'm not going wrong, there was an add-on that would allow us to see all the windows opened at the time, including, I think, those you are talking about.

I don't remember the add-on's name, though. Sorry :(


Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 13/03/2019 04:48, mhysnm1964@... escreveu:

All,

How do you find floating windows with NVDA other than using the object nav? In Jaws there is a hot key that shows all open app and windows. I cannot find a similar command.

A floating window for those who might not know the terminology. Is a window that is open by a program and is not attached to the program and some of them are not even attached to the application ring (alt tab). If the program does not place the focus correctly into the window. Then you cannot access the window by the keyboard. Thus the workaround which Jaws provides of listing all the windows helps here.

Hope someone can help.

Second question, just thought of. Are you able to remap keys in NVDA?


Re: listing open windows with NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

No, it will not help...

Try the systray addon or its equivalent on NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin addon...

Regards,




Às 06:39 de 15/03/2019, mhysnm1964@... escreveu:

Thanks for the keystroke, I had forgotten that keystroke. I wonder if it will help with floating windows. I will test it at work next time.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jacob Kruger
*Sent:* Friday, 15 March 2019 4:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] listing open windows with NVDA
Standard, under windows 10 anyway is windows key + tab key = brings up a list of open windows that you can arrow left and right through, but, this is not NVDA-specific at all.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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On 2019-03-15 6:30 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
If I'm not going wrong, there was an add-on that would allow us to
see all the windows opened at the time, including, I think, those
you are talking about.
I don't remember the add-on's name, though. Sorry :(
Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 13/03/2019 04:48, mhysnm1964@...
<mailto:mhysnm1964@...> escreveu:
All,
How do you find floating windows with NVDA other than using the
object nav? In Jaws there is a hot key that shows all open app
and windows. I cannot find a similar command.
A floating window for those who might not know the terminology.
Is a window that is open by a program and is not attached to the
program and some of them are not even attached to the
application ring (alt tab). If the program does not place the
focus correctly into the window. Then you cannot access the
window by the keyboard. Thus the workaround which Jaws provides
of listing all the windows helps here.
Hope someone can help.
Second question, just thought of. Are you able to remap keys in
NVDA?


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

P. Otter
 

hi, that link contains an error on that site.
they talk about automatic alttext but they meens imagedescriptor.
they say on that page the hotkey is ctrl nvda plus a.
and that is also not correct, it is ctrl nvda plus i
cheers
paul otter
 

Op 15-3-2019 om 15:08 schreef Robert Kingett:

While I don't care about this at all, if anybody wants to track the review process, see the below link.

https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topic/automatic_alt_text/30298349?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,30298349



Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Alina
 

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

Sent from my Mi A2

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John 3:16

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In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Re: Tone Master: Anyone remember this add-on?

Alina
 

I've been meaning to try this add-on, but haven't had time yet.

Sent from my Mi A2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

http://branham.org/

In data 15 marzo 2019 12:49:36 "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> ha scritto:

Hi folks,

So, anyone remember of this one?

And even, anyone is using it right now?

I just downloaded it and did a small test file to start with, the result actually came out quite good if you ask me.

Now it would be even cooler if I could ever find a folder with files to put into the add-on or even if anyone wants to get into this adventure of making their own files with me.

So what you guys'd say? :)


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Re: requesting link to chat group

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm on this one as well, it in my humble opinion is much better and high traffic.

blind-techies+subscribe@groups.io and the moderators are wonderful.

On 14 Mar 2019, at 21:40, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

In case nobody came up with the address to the Blindtech list, it is blindtech+subscribe@groups.io.



Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 12/03/2019 13:06, Gene escreveu:
Perhaps there is more than one group with a similar name.  The Blindtech group, that is just named Blindtech is active.  I estimate I get about forty or fifty messages a day. 
 
I don't have the exact subscription address.  If someone doesn't send it, I'll check.
 
There is another similar list, Techtalk. 
 
To join, send a blank e-mail to:
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] requesting link to chat group

Can anyone provide the link to the chat group? I have few tech questions, not realted to NVDA. I tried the Blind tech group, but it's not very active.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

 

While I don't care about this at all, if anybody wants to track the review process, see the below link.

https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topic/automatic_alt_text/30298349?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,30298349


Weather Plus 5.0 15.03.2019 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:

• Fixed bug, that returned an empty string if the wind speed in mph was 0.
• Fixed bug that caused sound effects not consistent with the time zone to be reproduced.
• adjusted the number of forecast days from 9 to 6 in readme.


Weather Plus can update itself, however you can download it directly from:


http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus5.0.nvda-addon
or from the pages:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus#main-content
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

If the file extension arrives as .zip,please correct it with .nvda-addon.

Cheers

adriano




Re: Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

Ron Canazzi
 

Yeah, what a breakthrough if you succeed in creating a new capcha solving add on.


Thanks for what you have done so far and e are all wishing the best for your continued involvement and development!

On 3/15/2019 7:44 AM, Mallard wrote:
I can't wait! If they're all this good, may you be blessed forever!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 12:29, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:

    Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for
    this one!


    Ciao,

    Ollie




    Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:

        I recently released something similar to what you're talking
        about,
        it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The
        shortcut to
        get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on
        can be
        downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


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