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Re: Is this the end of PayPal for nvda?
I had no issues. I got the audio captcha, and it was a bunch of words from a movie, or talkshow. I was able to fill it out fine just today. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 14 Nov 2020, at 17:19, Roger Stewart wrote:
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Re: Is this the end of PayPal for nvda?
Gene
This really should be on the chat list since NVDA has nothing to do with the problem. However, I have an account I haven't used in years; I wasn't asked to fill out a captcha when I logged in. I tried twice and wasn't asked either time. What country are you in?
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From: Roger Stewart Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:19 PM To: NVDA List Subject: [nvda] Is this the end of PayPal for nvda? Just now, I tried to log into my PayPal account. The dang thinghy put in a CAPTCHA. There was an audio but I tried doing that several times with no results. I finally had to ask my sighted friend to enter it for me. What was going on is there was a mixture of numbers and letters--this is all fine but some of the letters are upper case and some are lower case and there is no way to tell them apart in the audio challenge. This isn't accessible at all. If this continues, I'll have no choice except to cancel my PayPal account. I hope nvda has another way for us to donate. :( Roger
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Is this the end of PayPal for nvda?
Roger Stewart
Just now, I tried to log into my PayPal account. The dang thinghy put in a CAPTCHA. There was an audio but I tried doing that several times with no results. I finally had to ask my sighted friend to enter it for me. What was going on is there was a mixture of numbers and letters--this is all fine but some of the letters are upper case and some are lower case and there is no way to tell them apart in the audio challenge. This isn't accessible at all. If this continues, I'll have no choice except to cancel my PayPal account. I hope nvda has another way for us to donate.
:( Roger
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Re: loss of nvda keys
Roger Stewart
I get this sometimes, but not very often. They fix is to shut down nvda and then do a restart. That fixes it every time. What causes this is anyone's guess.
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On 11/14/2020 4:32 PM, Don H wrote:
This happens quite often on my Win 10 20h2 system. All the normal keys that work with NVDA stop working. Listed here is the error messages in the nvda log.
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Don H
This happens quite often on my Win 10 20h2 system. All the normal keys that work with NVDA stop working. Listed here is the error messages in the nvda log.
ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:44:17.252) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:44:18.119) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:44:18.722) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.183) - MainThread (2868): Garbage collector has found one or more unreachable objects. See further warnings for specific objects. Stack trace: File "nvda.pyw", line 215, in <module> File "core.pyc", line 550, in main File "wx\core.pyc", line 2134, in MainLoop File "wx\core.pyc", line 3240, in <lambda> File "cursorManager.pyc", line 171, in run File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 1050, in Notify File "core.pyc", line 520, in run File "queueHandler.pyc", line 88, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyc", line 55, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyc", line 65, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyc", line 217, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 96, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyc", line 105, in next File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs.py", line 279, in event_nameChange self.uiaDebugLogging(obj, "nameChange") File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs.py", line 213, in uiaDebugLogging if self.recordLog(obj, event): File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs.py", line 196, in recordLog if not isinstance(obj, UIA): File "abc.pyc", line 139, in __instancecheck__ File "abc.pyc", line 143, in __subclasscheck__ File "abc.pyc", line 143, in __subclasscheck__ File "garbageHandler.pyc", line 23, in __del__ File "garbageHandler.pyc", line 64, in notifyObjectDeletion WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.183) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x039B5170> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.183) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x06E85490> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x06E851D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729eea0 at 3e0f3a0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x730cdc8 at 6e6bd50> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x039B51B0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x039B5130> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x07734D50> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x07734210> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x077340D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x07734DB0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.184) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x07734610> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x039B5770> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729ed40 at 7707ee0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729efa8 at 7707490> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729f000 at 7707210> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729ee48 at 77078f0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729ec90 at 7707e90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x729ed98 at 7707f80> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.window.Desktop object at 0x07734050> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DocumentMozillaIAccessible object at 0x07734D10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.185) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x729e7d4 at 77074e0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x729e3e4 at 7707ad0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x729e5dc at 77072b0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x034C5E90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x74026bc at 6e6bd00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x729e504 at 6e6bcb0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x06E85DB0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x06E22F70> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.186) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x71f72b4 at 7707b70> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x71f74ac at 39a3d00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x71f72b4 at 39a3ad0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x71f74ac at 77073f0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x06E221B0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x71f75cc at 77393a0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x71f714c at 77077b0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.187) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x077173F0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x33f8684 at 77399e0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x33f86cc at 7739170> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x33f875c at 7739940> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x077170D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x55a11ac at 7739c60> ERROR - garbageHandler._collectionCallback (14:45:49.188) - MainThread (2868): Found at least 42 unreachable objects in run ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:12.077) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:13.012) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:13.608) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:14.866) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:16.070) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:17.270) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call ERROR - speech.manager.SpeechManager._handleIndex (14:51:18.887) - MainThread (2868): Error running speech callback Traceback (most recent call last): File "speech\manager.pyc", line 669, in _handleIndex File "speech\commands.pyc", line 326, in run File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 164, in _onLineReached File "sayAllHandler.pyc", line 213, in lineReached File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 207, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 477, in __init__ File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 225, in _getStoryLength OSError: [WinError 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Garbage collector has found one or more unreachable objects. See further warnings for specific objects. Stack trace: File "nvda.pyw", line 215, in <module> File "core.pyc", line 550, in main File "wx\core.pyc", line 2134, in MainLoop File "gui\__init__.pyc", line 1050, in Notify File "core.pyc", line 520, in run File "queueHandler.pyc", line 88, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyc", line 55, in flushQueue File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 166, in _queueScriptCallback File "keyboardHandler.pyc", line 516, in executeScript File "inputCore.pyc", line 201, in executeScript File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\__init__.py", line 1896, in script_announceWeather ui.message(self.getWeather(self.zipCode)) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\__init__.py", line 1329, in getWeather self.dom, mess = self.Open_Dom(zip_code) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\__init__.py", line 1731, in Open_Dom self.current_hour = Shared().GetTimezone(timezone_id, to24Hours = True) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\__init__.py", line 4108, in GetTimezone hour = datetime.now(dateutil.tz.gettz(timezone_id)).time() File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\tz\tz.py", line 1551, in __call__ rv = self.nocache(name=name) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\tz\tz.py", line 1642, in nocache tz = get_zonefile_instance().get(name) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\zoneinfo\__init__.py", line 102, in get_zonefile_instance zif = ZoneInfoFile(getzoneinfofile_stream()) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\zoneinfo\__init__.py", line 35, in __init__ for zf in tf.getmembers() File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\zoneinfo\__init__.py", line 36, in <dictcomp> if zf.isfile() and zf.name != METADATA_FN} File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\tz\tz.py", line 472, in __init__ tzobj = self._read_tzfile(file_stream) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\tz\tz.py", line 610, in _read_tzfile tti = _ttinfo() File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Weather_Plus\globalPlugins\Weather_Plus\dateutil\tz\tz.py", line 327, in __init__ for attr in self.__slots__: File "garbageHandler.pyc", line 23, in __del__ File "garbageHandler.pyc", line 64, in notifyObjectDeletion WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x00AD8850> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x07732630> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x07732AB0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x0770AE90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x077322F0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x07732290> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x07732ED0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x07732510> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x07732B90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x07732EF0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x07732990> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DocumentMozillaIAccessible object at 0x039B51B0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749e130 at 7707a80> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749e290 at 6e6bda0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749dd68 at 7739170> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749e2e8 at 7707850> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749de18 at 7739440> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749dec8 at 77076c0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749e238 at 7739e40> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x749e398 at 7707c10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.window.Desktop object at 0x077328D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x54165ac at 6e6bd00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x541687c at 588e300> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x541690c at 39a3d00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x039B5130> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x7586534 at 77399e0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x54163b4 at 6e6bc60> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x00AD8250> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x07732A90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x751030c at 7739f80> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x751081c at 7739c60> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x751030c at 7739c10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x751081c at 6e6bcb0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x06E952D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x75107d4 at 7739940> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x7510a14 at 7707620> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x077323B0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x733849c at 77398f0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x73387fc at 77390d0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x7338844 at 77397b0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x00AD87F0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x75a935c at 7739300> ERROR - garbageHandler._collectionCallback (15:18:50.606) - MainThread (2868): Found at least 42 unreachable objects in run WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Garbage collector has found one or more unreachable objects. See further warnings for specific objects. Stack trace: File "threading.pyc", line 890, in _bootstrap File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory-py3\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py", line 276, in run func(*args, **kwargs) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory-py3\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py", line 295, in _speak ret = _ttsDLL.NVDASpeak(text, cfcallback) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory-py3\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py", line 254, in cfcallback _indexCB(int(x)) File "C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory-py3\synthDrivers\_codefactorytts.py", line 227, in _onIndexReached synthIndexReached.notify(synth=self, index=index) File "extensionPoints\__init__.pyc", line 47, in notify File "extensionPoints\util.pyc", line 152, in callWithSupportedKwargs File "inspect.pyc", line 3083, in signature File "inspect.pyc", line 2833, in from_callable File "inspect.pyc", line 2217, in _signature_from_callable File "inspect.pyc", line 2226, in _signature_from_callable File "inspect.pyc", line 504, in unwrap File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 104, in newCpbDel File "garbageHandler.pyc", line 64, in notifyObjectDeletion WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x72e96e4 at 9e8bf30> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x09D6A650> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x72e92f4 at 7739c10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x72e94a4 at 9e8be40> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x09D6A6B0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x7291d74 at 9e8bee0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x732bebc at ae2530> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x00AD8110> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x732bfdc at ae2bc0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x732bf94 at ae2670> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x74a4984 at 6c89170> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x00AD8EB0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x756addc at 7707a80> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DocumentMozillaIAccessible object at 0x09D6A7D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x756b1cc at 7ebcb0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleText) ptr=0x756ad4c at 7707c10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x756a8cc at 7707e40> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x029FDA90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x756b064 at 77071c0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x72e96e4 at 7707490> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x00ADEB10> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessibleAction) ptr=0x72e92f4 at 39a3d00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x00ADEBF0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743dc58 at 9e8be90> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x007E02D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x007E0350> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743df70 at 7739440> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x00ADEAD0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743e0d0 at 9e8bda0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x00ADE650> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743ddb8 at 77399e0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x00ADE070> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743e230 at 6e6bd00> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x00ADE410> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743de68 at 6c89120> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.WindowRoot object at 0x00ADE0D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.window.Desktop object at 0x00ADE950> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743dec0 at 588c2b0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x06E851D0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x743e338 at 7707850> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SysListView32EmittingDuplicateFocusEventsListItemIAccessible object at 0x00ADE5F0> WARNING - garbageHandler.notifyObjectDeletion (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Deleting unreachable object <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.List object at 0x00ADE510> ERROR - garbageHandler._collectionCallback (16:07:33.516) - Thread-1 (7128): Found at least 42 unreachable objects in run INFO - core.main (16:24:00.046) - MainThread (2868): Exiting INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (16:24:00.077) - MainThread (2868): Base configuration saved INFO - __main__ (16:24:01.200) - MainThread (2868): NVDA exit
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Re: firefox preferences
JM Casey
Go to the list box, and select "home". There you will find settings for your home page.
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Or just go to the search edit field and type in "homepage" and it should come up.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: November 14, 2020 04:18 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox preferences OK but don't see there where to set your home page. On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote: Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools
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Re: issues with web page
Hope Williamson
I'm able to arrow through the page in Firefox although when I click the
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buttons for the menus they definitely aren't expanding. Also, it seems like it's in application mode when I open it in Brave, so not a virtual buffer-like situation, more of a desktop app-like thing.
On 11/14/2020 11:59 AM, Don H wrote:
I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below. I
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Re: firefox preferences
Gene
Once yu are in options, turn off browse mode NVDA key space. If you don't, you can't see the list of categories.
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Shift tab three times to the list. You can down arrow through the categories. Move to the one you want, then tab around to see what settings you can change. In this case, you want home. You may stay in forms mode or return to browse mode when you tab. If you have questions about how to work with the interface for choices about home content, let us know. Gene
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From: Don H Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 3:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox preferences OK but don't see there where to set your home page. On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote: Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter
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Re: firefox preferences
Don H
OK but don't see there where to set your home page.
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On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:
Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter
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Re: firefox preferences
Chris
Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter
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firefox preferences
Don H
Sorry for all the questions today. How do you get to the preferences in the latest version of firefox? It says to go to the tthree dots in the right hand corner but of course I can't get there.
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Re: issues with web page
Chris
Probably because nvda is going into focus mode on that site for some reason Have to manually switch back to browse mode to navigate the site
I dont know why this is but firefox works fine with it Chrome just sucks I guess
From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:00 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] issues with web page
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Re: issues with web page
Gene
When you are on the page. start tabbing. You will get to an application. tab once or twice to get to links beyond the application. The application automaticaly places you in forms mode. Return to browse mode, NVDA key space. You can then move normally.
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Gene
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From: Don H Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:59 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] issues with web page I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below. I have tried it with both the latest version of Google Chrome and MS edge on my Win 10 version 20h2 system with the latest version of NVDA. When I try to use the up and down arrows to review the page I get nothing. Can someone please check it out to see if it works for you? The web page is https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/external-drives/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd#WDBWLG0030HBK-NESN
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issues with web page
Don H
I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below. I have tried it with both the latest version of Google Chrome and MS edge on my Win 10 version 20h2 system with the latest version of NVDA. When I try to use the up and down arrows to review the page I get nothing. Can someone please check it out to see if it works for you? The web page is
https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/external-drives/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd#WDBWLG0030HBK-NESN
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Using Google Voice Webpage with NVDA
First, if you are not already a Google Voice user and have a Google Voice phone number, feel free to mute this topic almost immediately. What I am about to ask is not about how to use Google Voice, per se, because I do so all the time, but about getting NVDA to "play nice," if possible, with the page for one's Google Voice calling/texting/voicemail as well as the two tabs for archiving and reporting spam.
If I go through the page with NVDA active, via point and click, when I land on the control for "Call" it says, "Call tab selected," Note, this is not a browser tab, nor is it presented in the way that tabs are conventionally presented. I have yet to find a way to do a quick navigation to any of them, though brute force tabbing (or shift+tabbing) always ends up with these controls as part of the traversal. I also have not figured out, exactly, when it is that NVDA is going to handle the C keyboard shortcut for looking for a combo box versus passing it to Google Voice as a shortcut for "make a call," which it is when Google Voice has control. Depending on where I have focus on the screen, it sometimes acts as a quick navigation shortcut and others as a Google Voice keyboard shortcut. And none of these times is when I'm in an edit box, which behaves as I'd expect. If anyone has experience using Google Voice via the webpage with NVDA who can shed some light about accessing it with NVDA, would you please share? -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind. ~ Thomas Reed Powell
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Re: labeling graphics?
If there is no issue on github, maybe the OP can submit an issue on said platform for those of us to comment on. Blessings and happy Saturday -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 14 Nov 2020, at 10:50, Gene wrote:
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Re: labeling graphics?
Gene
NVDA doesn't have a graphics labeler. It also doesn't have a function like frames in JAWS. While these lacks don't affect a lot of users, they are real disadvantages for many would-be or current users.
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I don't know why it doesn't have these functions, if there are technical reasons or others. Gene
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From: Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] labeling graphics? Does NVDA have a way to label such graphics as 'read' and 'unread' in email programs? Thx
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labeling graphics?
Ann Byrne
Does NVDA have a way to label such graphics as 'read' and 'unread' in email programs?
Thx
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Re: status of check box and radio boxes
Jonathan COHN
Very hard to tell. If the checkboxes are native ones:
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<input role="checkbox" name="myCheckbox"> And NVDA does not announce them then you have found a problem. Sometimes however the web developer has decided they don't like the styles provided by browsers for checkboxes, or they want some additional control in these cases you are likely to see something like: <div role="checkbox" aria-checked="true" cclass="ckbx uncheck"></div> Notice how this element has a role this is telling the screen reader hey you know that nondescriptive element div in this case treat it like a checkbox and then the aria-checked attribute in there lets the scree reader know if the checkbox is checked. However, Generally web developers use the "class" attribute to change appearance of elements, and if their Java script updates the class, but does not update the aria-checked you will get as you described, and there is nothing a screen reader can do about this since there are no standards on class and the picture that is changed when the class changes has no attributes and therefore no way to describe it. Again, one can look at the attributes for this element in either the browsers developer tools, or using the NVDA F1 key sequence and looking at the last couple of lines shown. There should be an attributes line that lists the attributes the browser is providing to the screen reader like tag Name, role etc. .
On Nov 14, 2020, at 13:21, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
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