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Re: table navigation issues
Robert Logue
Lots of apps report tables but NVDA doesn't work with them.
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Examples are the NVDA user guide and commands quick reference. Can't move between columns with ctrl+alt+left or right keys. Windows 2004. NVDA 2020.3. New Edge. Firefox 73.0.1
On 2020-11-09 1:55 a.m., Gene wrote:
I would think this isn't related to your project, but I see instances where things look like tables to sighted readers but are not, so a screen-reader can't read them in any sort of logical manner. How often this happens, I don't know and it may be to an extent the sites I happen to look at a good deal but it is nonetheless an accessibility issue to present something that looks like a table and isn't
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Re: NVDA Goes Silent When Working with Outlook 2016 - Where does the fault lie?
Christo,
I have retitled your post for both clarity and archive maintenance purposes. I hope that someone will be able to assist in figuring this issue out. That being said, it has been asked that logs not be posted to the group, and I would ask you, and all members, to refrain from doing so in the future. If an assistant needs a log or log segment, they will request it and it should be sent privately. There are many times when NVDA logs can contain information that would be sensitive and that the end user would really not want to have out in public, and they'd have no way of knowing it's even there, and this is why we do not want public posting of full logs or log segments. That, and there are mighty few members who have the expertise to interpret them, too. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind. ~ Thomas Reed Powell
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Re: Signing PDF documents with NVDA
Ali Colak
A question I would like to ask as well
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On 11/10/20, Ali Savas <ali-savas@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Community,
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NVDA Goes Silent When Working with Outlook 2016 - Where does the fault lie?
Christo Vorster
Good day Group
From time to time I find that NVDA keeps quiet while I work in MS Outlook 2016. When I press ALT-Tab twice it start speaking again, but it only reads the message my cursor is on. I copied the view log, hopefully someone can tell me whether it is a NVDA or Microsoft problem.
The log look as follows:
INFO - __main__ (15:05:18.440) - MainThread (8168): Starting NVDA version 2020.3 INFO - core.main (15:05:24.668) - MainThread (8168): Config dir: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:05:24.668) - MainThread (8168): Loading config: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini INFO - core.main (15:05:25.505) - MainThread (8168): Using Windows version 10.0.19041 workstation INFO - core.main (15:05:25.506) - MainThread (8168): Using Python version 3.7.9 (tags/v3.7.9:13c94747c7, Aug 17 2020, 18:01:55) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (15:05:25.507) - MainThread (8168): Using comtypes version 1.1.7 INFO - core.main (15:05:25.507) - MainThread (8168): Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:05:28.562) - MainThread (8168): Loaded synthDriver ibmeci INFO - core.main (15:05:29.097) - MainThread (8168): Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0 INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:05:29.107) - MainThread (8168): Braille input initialized INFO - braille.initialize (15:05:29.109) - MainThread (8168): Using liblouis version 3.14.0 INFO - braille.initialize (15:05:29.122) - MainThread (8168): Using pySerial version 3.4 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:05:29.167) - MainThread (8168): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - core.main (15:05:29.987) - MainThread (8168): Java Access Bridge support initialized INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:05:30.056) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (8396): UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6 ERROR - mouseHandler.initialize (15:05:35.596) - MainThread (8168): Error retrieving initial mouse object Traceback (most recent call last): File "mouseHandler.pyc", line 236, in initialize File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 285, in objectFromPoint File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 225, in findBestAPIClass File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 224, in findBestAPIClass File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 994, in kwargsFromSuper File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 26, in __call__ _ctypes.COMError: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None)) INFO - core.main (15:05:35.876) - MainThread (8168): NVDA initialized ERROR - RPC process 12180 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:09:33.469) - Dummy-83 (7612): __main__.main: slave error Traceback (most recent call last): File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 93, in main File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 935, in GetResult OSError: [WinError -2147221021] Operation unavailable
Regards
Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Socheat Muth
You can browse to the direct download link of the driver from the main website as far as I'm aware. The only way to get the driver is to use this direct link: https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.2.nvda-addon
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On 11/10/2020 9:22 AM, Jesse
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Signing PDF documents with NVDA
Ali Savas
Hi Community,
with the adobe Reader it is possible to sign PDF documents. Unfortunately I have not found a way to do this with NVDA yet. Sighted people have to drag the signature into the correct field. Is there an accessible way to sign PDF documents with NVDA? Thank you very much for your answer and have a wonderful day Ali
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Add-on updates: StationPlaylist 20.11.1/20.09.4-LTS, Windows 10 App Essentials will support Version 1909 until January 2021
#addonrelease
Hi all, Two add-on updates:
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Jesse Farquharson
Hi, This web address gives me a 404 error. I have checked and it exactly matches what is posted here. Is there any way to translate the Tiflotecnia site into English? This would make grabbing stuff so much less maddening.
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Chris Smart
oh sorry. I misunderstood.
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Samuel Villa <sjv89550@...>
Not code factory voices. I meant the ones from tiflotechnia.
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
mattias
i wonder if rui dont can answer this? Den 10 november 2020 02:41:09 skrev "Socheat Muth" <socheat.mt.lc@...>:
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Socheat Muth
I heard that the dev of vocalizer expressive says there will be a
demo in the next driver releases, but I'm not sure when it's going
to release. The driver on the main website haven't update for
ages.
On 11/10/2020 5:22 AM, Samuel Villa
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
mattias
you talk about tiflotecnia here. not codefactory. codefactory have 7 day trial Den 9 november 2020 23:12:06 skrev "Gene" <gsasner@...>:
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Re: wanted nvda for my windows 7 home basic
After my own kinda rule-bending post, I am going to lock this topic since the essential question about NVDA is already answered, and Windows 7 is no longer in support.
That being said, and because this applies whether we're talking Windows, or the driver & software packages for your printer or multifunction, or whatever you should really never use anything that's on CD/DVD, as it's almost certain to be out of date by the time it lands in your hands. All software makers are constantly updating their online repositories for their software until such goes out of support (and in the case of Windows 7 SP1, there was still a lot going on even after the formal date). Windows 7 SP1 ISO files are available straight from the Microsoft Mothership at Download Windows 7 Disc Images (ISO Files)
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Re: Adobe Reader and NVDA
Quentin Christensen
I'm not sure what Avpage view is? Normally, when you open a PDF file, if it has been created properly and is accessible, you should be able to read it just like reading a Word document or web page. If the document has been scanned as an image of text, NVDA will normally report this, and in that case you can press NVDA+r to run OCR on the document, and then use the standard reading and navigation keys to read the text (and press escape when done). Otherwise if you could perhaps give more information about the error? Kind regards Quentin.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:46 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote: Hello all in group, --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: wanted nvda for my windows 7 home basic
Quentin Christensen
Good point - at the time it was changed, the need for a download for NVDA 2017.3 was primarily for XP users. There is really no reason for Windows 7 users not to update to SP1, but of course, as you have found, on many Windows 7 CDs (all the ones I have used at least), SP1 is not included and indeed takes some time updating before it is downloaded and updated to.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:53 PM Sean Randall <srandall@...> wrote:
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Re: How to spell out Roman numerals
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 02:53 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
why in the world are we still using Roman Numerals?- 1. Because they look pretty on a clock face. 2. Because they are handy to differentiate parts of Outline structure. 3. Because of the vagaries that are the history of writing, whether jargon or regular. If I see the word stage followed by a Roman numeral I immediately think cancer or other medical staging while if it's an Arabic numeral I think something else, whether a physical location, one of a number of options (stage 3 as opposed to stage 2 in multi-stage performing arts center), etc. No one ever said natural language, or its conventions, "make perfect sense." Heck, natural language, whether spoken or written, always involves unresolvable abiguity on the reader's or listener's end or else "misunderstandings" in the literal sense would not be possible. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: How to spell out Roman numerals
Janet,
Thanks for the follow-up. I am now looking at this closely due to an unexpected peculiarity in how the pattern matching in the NVDA dictionary works. The not substituting for the single letter I will help quite a bit, as the rest of the roman numerals will work. By the way, I just realized after typing out the rest of the message that the two entries for RN 5 and RN 10 should be entered in your dictionary BEFORE the one that covers all the other RNs due to the peculiarity I allude to. Because the pronoun I is now out of the picture, I will suggest that you use a variant on Luke's proposed regular expression for matching, as it eliminates a number of issues related to the peculiarity to which I make reference. Since you have said you only need the Roman numerals one through ten, and we've now dropped one/the pronoun I, I am going to modify his regular expression only to accommodate that, and make it shorter for copy and paste. Were you looking for any Roman numeral up to 9 "Roman digits" long, I wouldn't even consider touching it. Give this a try as the pattern, and I can omit the colon part of matching now, too: \b([IXV])([IXV])([I])?([I])?([a-zA-Z])?\b and this as the replacement: \1 \2 \3 \4 \5 Oddly enough, the above will work for every Roman numeral between two and nine, except 5, because 5 is a single V followed by nothing, and also omits RN ten, because it's a single letter X, so you need two additional entries to cover those two. Here's the pattern for RN 5: \b(V)([a-zA-Z])?\b and the replacement: \1 \2 and for RN 10: \b(X)([a-zA-Z])?\b and the replacement: \1 \2 All of the above presume the Roman numeral with possible optional letter afterward will be free-standing, that is, with whitespace (whether space, tab, newline, etc.) immediately before or after, at a word boundary. Essentially they're their own "words." If you know that you could have any specific punctuation coming immediately afterward, and know what specific punctuation marks are involved, I'd need to tweak to account for that. Unless you're dealing with a text that includes Greek letter names written out, the above should not prove problematic. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Gene
Not necessarily. One of the companies that provides synthesizers uses a system that it may not want to use. I don't know why it does but it’s a very bad system.
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A new driver is released from time to time which runs until a certain date. It is the same date for everyone, no matter when they install it. If you install it one day before the date, it will expire the next day. If you install it after it expires it won't work for any period of time. That is likely what the problem is and as far as I know, there is nothing to do but wait for another driver. Gene
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From: Chris Smart Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 4:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] lateest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA You must have tried it in the past. consider buying the product. Or, maybe write Code Factory a nice email and ask for an extension of the demo period? It's worth a try. On 2020-11-09 5:22 p.m., Samuel Villa wrote: I don’t mean to complain, but when I install the driver and a voice it says that the demo expired. I really want to try this product. Could somebody try to get me in the right direction? Thanks.
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Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA
Chris Smart
You must have tried it in the past.
consider buying the product.
Or, maybe write Code Factory a nice email and ask for an extension of the demo period? It's worth a try.
On 2020-11-09 5:22 p.m., Samuel Villa
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