Hi all,

Can anyone verify my experience with reading emails in mail in windows 10?

With NVDA’s default configuration, I have to turn off Focus mode every time I open a message, else the cursor keys don’t work. I can read with CtRL+up or down, which is fine as far as it goes.

Ironically if I go into  NVDA settings and tell NVDA not to enable browse mode on page load, opening an email keeps me in Browse Mode to begin with: confusing much?

This all happens irrespective of the mail setting to use the caret to read emails or not. Mail also seems to have nothing but a reading pane: in Outlook I  turn the pane off, because it is a real pain. But Mail doesn’t seem to let me do that.

Any further info from anyone  gratefully received. My temporary workaround is to make a new configuration profile, but that’s not ideal.

Sean.

Hi Cearbhall

First, are you sure the first  page of the file  has recognisable text? If it is a cover sheet for example, it may not be readily scannable. OCR will only work with onscreen text, rather than giving you a whole document at once.

I have  always performed the OCR on the alert about it being a blank document: I don’t understand the purpose of you pressing the home button before doing the OCR I’m a fraid.

Sean.

Thanks very much, Sascha.  Clearly, I need to read the user guide in full!

Dave

Hello all,

Would someone please tell me how to get NVDA to spell out Roman numerals instead of automatically speaking them as Arabic numerals? I had a quick look at the symbols pronunciation list of more than 3,000 items and couldn’t find them easily,

Thanks,

Janet

Hi,

For Quentin: I’m thinking we should queue this for 2021.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

I think we could possibly do that as a tool tip, although it is somewhat mitigated in recent NVDA alpha snapshots where a form of context-sensitive help was added to NVDA interface controls (at the moment if you press F1 from NVDA settings controls, the relevant section from the user guide will open). The next step would be generalizing this initial version of context-sensitive help to other places, but that will involve reimagining the current approach as well.

For a practical demonstration of input composition settings, take a look at Welcome to NVDA tutorial set, which can be found at:

https://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

As much as IME’s are associated with Asian languages, it is used in other languages, hence a bit hard to say that it only applies to Asian language input (perhaps an explanation could state that it is a useful feature for people typing or working with Asian languages).

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi,

I have a scanned image in an Adobe .pdf file. I want to run NVDA’s OCR over it. When I open the document in adobe Acrobat DC I get a message  that this is a blank document. I press F6 twice and press enter on the home button. Then I press NVDA+R and I hear “recognising” and below that “result document” but there is no text showing.

I know that this document is an image of scanned text because I can convert it using Abbyy Finereader.

All advice and instructions welcome!

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Hi,

I know that user guide can be a bit vague on this, but based on discussion I had with NV Access people back in 2012 when these settings first made their appearance and experiences from Chinese, Japanese, and Korean speakers (I speak Korean; now you know half of the story):

These settings control how NVDA reacts to input method editor (IME) interfaces. Certain languages ship with IME’s, and because the well-known languages where IME is frequently encountered (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, collectively called CJK) provide different input experiences (candidates window for Chinese and Japanese, standard QWERTY-style input for Hangul/Korean), Windows will present different input experiences, and thus NVDA must respond differently. Visually, these languages are pictorial characters, and when you type in these languages, a square “composition” window will be used to complete each character/shape. How NVDA can announce these characters is beyond the scope of this thread.

The input composition settings panel consist of:

• Automatically report all available candidates: used when entering Chinese characters where you need to choose from multiple candidates for a given pronunciation or a word. These candidates are presented as a grid as soon as you either type the first few syllables or press Chinese character key (right Control key for Korean keyboards). For example, when entering Chinese characters through Korean IME, the character “su” can have different Chinese character representations such as “water,” “number,” “manual,” and so on. NVDA will announce these candidates when this setting is on.
• Announce selected candidate: used when entering Chinese characters, especially when navigating between candidates. When candidates appear, you can use arrow keys to navigate it.
• Always include short character description when announcing candidates: useful when entering Chinese characters through Korean IME. As I noted above, because a single character in Korean can have multiple Chinese character representations, it is helpful to hear exactly what these characters stand for in Chinese through a short description. To support this, Korean translation of NVDA includes short descriptions for thousands of Chinese characters used in China and South Korea.
• Report changes to the reading string: useful for Chinese input methods where different character combinations can yield different texts.
• Report changes to the composition string: when using IME’s with direct QWERTY-style input such as Korean/Hangul, a square window will be visible as you type. The shapes inside the composition window changes as you type, and NVDA can be set to announce changes to this.

Cheers,

Joseph