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Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

Chris Mullins
 

I’m with Luke here, it sounds more like a camera than a typing sound to me and consequently confused me as to what it meant, which is why I switched to having the mode announced verbally.    

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 28 May 2021 23:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

 



Actually it is a typing sound. In the 1800s the telegraph used that sound, or at least somethingn close to it. So I know what that means.

 

Interestingly, at least to me, it never occurred to me that that sound was meant to be a typing sound. The closest thing I could describe ass would be and artificial camera shutter sound, as somebody described  it earlier. I have used mechanical typewriters, electromechanical typewriters, and electronic keyboards of all varieties, and never have any of them sounded like that.

 

That said, I have stayed out of this one because I am generally in favor of earcons, as long as they are optional. I have enough things talking to me all day, it is a pleasure to get context from something other than an artificial voice. But I’m not saying anything new on this so I will shut up again.

 

Luke

 


Re: weird issue with windows 21h1

enes sarıbaş
 

You neede to wait on that please wait screen like it says.  This update took a longer much longer time on my 8 core AMD to get through that screen.

On 5/18/2021 2:08 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well today I decided to install the latest windows feature update.

I checked for updates.

It loaded everything fine.

I then went to install the feature update.

I got error 0x08000fff immediately which was strange.

The update however did install without a problem.

On restart though I get a please wait from windows update sfc and dizm havn't done much but its not like its all dead, the system works.

I tried uninstalling, restoring and trying again.

Same thing, I tried on my asus desktop which had the update, it didn't happen and everything worked as expected.

In the short to medium term even long term its not bad, I have latest drivers for my display and chipset, as well as audio according to hp which is realtech.

The update and restart and update and shutdown boxes exist, but its not like the system aint going to run.

As long as I can install updates manually I guess it will be ok.

One thing's for sure though I will hold off on updating my media backups, those are 20h2 or 2004 and probably I don't need to bother updating them I guess.

Not ssure what I will do.

One thing I will not do is ring microsoft tech support.

To many bad memmories.

The system works, it boots and its not broken.






locked Re: Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

Chris Mullins
 

 

Hi

The link took me to aFTP location containing a list of .EXE files, each I believe to be a language installation file for embedded ViaVoice software.  There appears to be 4 files for US English which can be selected and copied to a folder on your machine.

 

Cheers

Chris  

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 28 May 2021 18:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

This link takes me nowhere.

 

 

 

On 5/28/2021 10:02 AM, Hareth wrote:

> There you go:

> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/embedded_viavoice/

> On 5/28/21, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

>> I meant I can't find the download link for it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 5/28/2021 8:48 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria via groups.io wrote:

>>> I can't find the sownload link for it.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 5/28/2021 8:38 AM, Crayton Benner via groups.io wrote:

>>>> Last time I tried it, it worked fine with windows 10 no problems.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:31, Rosemarie Chavarria

>>>> <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>      Will it work with windows 10 or is it for older systems?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>      On 5/28/2021 7:16 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

>>>>>      also did you know that viavoice outloud sapi4 tts is available

>>>>>      to download for free on IBM's publically available and open ftp

>>>>>      site? It's buried inside of some folders on ftp.software.ibm.com

>>>>>      <ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com> ... But yes it is there for anybody

>>>>>      to go grab and install and use.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

 


NVDA and Visual Studio 2019, streamlining the workflow

Felix G.
 

Dear NVDA community,
I have spent the last few days preparing a programming assignment for
students of a computer science class, and since it is a C programming
assignment, and I am a Windows user, I chose to use Visual Studio for
the task at hand. I am noticing, however, that this endeavour is
hampered by Visual Studio and NVDA going out of sync on a regular
basis. For instance, it appears the cursor is stuck somewhere in the
code editor, but upon inspection I find focus has changed to another
VS component, and this focus change was apparently not taken into
account by NVDA. Repeated alt+tabbing out of and back into VS tends to
solve the problem, with the emphasis resting firmly on "repeated,"
meaning it gets tedious after some time. Often after alt+tabbing into
VS, when I press NVDA+t to find out the window title, NVDA says
"Explorer" by which it is presumably referring to some part of the
scaffolding of how Windows handles its window management.
Could someone please point me to the current recommended standard
practice for doing C or C++ development when depending on NVDA? Is
there anything in VS that needs to be configured to make it behave
acceptably with NVDA?
Thank you and all the best,
Felix


NVDA 2021.1 and Joseph Lee's add-ons: seven add-ons updated, important notices on some add-ons #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of stable channel updates to the following add-ons (compatible with NVDA 2021.1; beta 1 is out so far, manual installation required until further notice):

  • Control Usage Assistant:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/controlUsageAssistant/releases/download/21.06/controlUsageAssistant-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates (it’s been many months since a localization update took place).

 

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/download/21.06/enhancedTouchGestures-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

 

  • GoldWave:

Version: 21.06 (EOL: end of life from current maintainer)

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/goldWave/releases/download/21.06/goldwave-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

Note: GoldWave add-on 21.06 is the last version of the add-on from me.

 

  • ObjPad (out of band emergency update):

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/objPad/releases/download/21.06/objPad-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates (more than a year’s worth of updates, including new translations)

Note: I stopped maintaining ObjPad in January 2020; in consideration for compatibility changes, version 21.06 is an out of band emergency update. Future versions are not guaranteed.

 

  • Resource Monitor:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/resourceMonitor/releases/download/21.06/resourceMonitor-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

 

  • StationPlaylist:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/releases/download/21.06/stationPlaylist-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes:

• NVDA will no longer do nothing or play error tones when trying to open various add-on dialogs such as encoder settings dialog. This is a critical fix required to support NVDA 2021.1.

• NVDA will no longer appear to do nothing or play error tones when trying to announce complete time (hours, minutes, seconds) from Studio (command unassigned). This affects NVDA 2021.1 or later.

 

  • Windows 10 app Essentials:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/21.06/wintenApps-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes:

• NVDA 2020.4 or later is required.

• The following UIA events were renamed to make them consistent with actual UI Automation event names: drag target enter to drop target enter, drag target leave to drop target leave, drag target dropped to drop target dropped.

• Modern keyboard: in build 21300 and later, with focus mode active from places such as web browsers, NVDA will no longer announce blank when using the arrow keys to navigate among emojis.

• Modern keyboard: when pressing Escape key to close emoji panel or clipboard history in build 21300 and later, focus will move back to the control you were working on before modern keyboard interface was opened. In some cases, Escape key should be pressed twice.

Note: WinTenApps 21.06 is the last version compatible with Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update/build 19041).

 

IMPORTANT NOTES (PLEASE READ):

  1. If you haven’t, install Add-on Updater 21.05.1 BEFORE applying these add-on updates.
  2. Until further notice, these add-on updates must be applied manually. I’ll send a follow-up notice when community add-ons website is updated to host new add-on updates.
  3. After installing these updates, if Add-on Updater prompts you to install what may appear to be older add-on releases, ignore it. If you are using NVDA 2021.1 beta 1 or recent alpha snapshots, add-on updates through Add-on Updater will fail because older add-on releases are not compatible.
  4. GoldWave: version 21.06 is the last version of this add-on under my maintenance.
  5. ObjPad: version 21.06 is an out of band update specifically designed for compatibility. Future releases are not guaranteed as it is no longer maintained by me.
  6. Control Usage Assistant, Enhanced Touch Gestures, StationPlaylist: version 21.06 is the second to last version of these add-ons under my maintenance. A localization focused release will be made toward end of summer, at which point I will end maintenance of these add-ons.
  7. Resource Monitor: version 21.06 is one of the last releases of these add-ons, with the last release under my maintenance scheduled for end of this year. I’m waiting for Windows Server 2022 to be finalized before recording the final build in this add-on.
  8. Windows 10 App Essentials: version 21.06 (codenamed “iron”) is the last version compatible with Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update). The next major release (codenamed “cobalt”) will require Version 20H2 (October 2020 Update) or later. Also, for support policy, WinTenApps 21.06 requires NVDA 2020.4, 2021.1 prerelease (beta included), and alpha snapshots (Windows 10 App Essentials supports current/2021.1 (starting from beta), immediate past/2020.4, and development versions of NVDA). Those running WinTenApps add-on development snapshots are already running parts of “cobalt” and what could become early “nickel 1” releases (more on “nickel 1” codename later).

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda and latest windows update

Luke Davis
 

I also tried this using Joseph's STR, and could not replicate this problem.
It announced the time automatically. It announced it manually with numpad 5.
In no case was it slow or inaccurate or late.

I think this is the system in question, not NVDA.

I tested with 2020.4 and 2021.1 beta. Windows 20H2.

Luke

On May 28, Joseph Lee wrote:

I tried:
1. Start NVDA (under Windows 10 Version 21H1 build 19043.1023).
2. Press Windows+B to go to notification area.
3. Press right arrow until arriving at clock icon.
4. Wait five minutes.

Expected behavior: NVDA announces time changes.
Actual: NVDA announces time changes.
I guess this might be unique to your system unless others report similar issues.


my time display issue is resolved

 

Hi.

Well, I pulled the update today for my other hp system and there was no issue.

Today I came back from where I was and just restarted the system and its ok again.

Maybe there was an issue which was roled back, we will never know.

But its all working, I guess we will have to watch the changelogs for the june updates.


Re: Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA

Gene
 

I should clarify one point:
In a previous message, I said I would discuss the probloem on the chat list.  That was before I got suggestive evidence that the problem may be an NVDA problem.  It is for that reason that I continued to discuss it here.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I’ve found links in a newsletter I get that cause the address not valid message to come up in Internet Explorer even though it isn’t my default browser.
 
This may be an NVDA issue.  Perhaps this can nbe tested if I forward the newsletter to those who want to test.
 
On links where I get this message, the problem appears to be that browse mode isn’t lining up with the link properly.  I’m not sure how this might cause the problem if it is the cause.  moving with the up and down arrow keys to the link doesn’t solve the problem.  Using k doesn’t solve it.  But tabbing does, at least these things appear to be true in the very small amount of testing I’ve  done.  It appears to me that tabbing is the most reliable way to be sure you are on a link and that appears to be the case here.
 
I would be very curious to see if the person with the problem links in the confidential newsletter can successfully follow them if she tabs to the link she wants.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I won’t discuss this further on this list, though I will on the chat list if the subject is discussed there. 
 
I wanted to report something very interesting.  The newsletter I discussed appears to do a very odd thing:
 
In Windows Live Mail, there is a link that opens Internet Explorer with a bad address message.  The other links I tested all open in my default browser.
But when I test the same e-mail in thunderbirdd the title that was shown as a link and that leads to the incorrect address message being displayed in Internet explorer is not shown as a link.  it appears displayed as plain text.
 
I have no idea if this has relevance to your probloem but bbased on the previous discussion I would suggest trying a different e-mail program, forwarding the message to yourself, and seeing if the links work properly.  I have no idea what will happen.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
But isn’t it the case that outside of this newsletter, your default browser opens?  Mine almost always does.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I am not using Outlook, but I’m using software that is no longer supported.  I didn’t mention that due to the out-of support rule.  I just tried again with another link, and got the message “Internet Explorer: Address not valid”.
 
Louise


Re: Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA

Gene
 

I’ve found links in a newsletter I get that cause the address not valid message to come up in Internet Explorer even though it isn’t my default browser.
 
This may be an NVDA issue.  Perhaps this can nbe tested if I forward the newsletter to those who want to test.
 
On links where I get this message, the problem appears to be that browse mode isn’t lining up with the link properly.  I’m not sure how this might cause the problem if it is the cause.  moving with the up and down arrow keys to the link doesn’t solve the problem.  Using k doesn’t solve it.  But tabbing does, at least these things appear to be true in the very small amount of testing I’ve  done.  It appears to me that tabbing is the most reliable way to be sure you are on a link and that appears to be the case here.
 
I would be very curious to see if the person with the problem links in the confidential newsletter can successfully follow them if she tabs to the link she wants.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I won’t discuss this further on this list, though I will on the chat list if the subject is discussed there. 
 
I wanted to report something very interesting.  The newsletter I discussed appears to do a very odd thing:
 
In Windows Live Mail, there is a link that opens Internet Explorer with a bad address message.  The other links I tested all open in my default browser.
But when I test the same e-mail in thunderbirdd the title that was shown as a link and that leads to the incorrect address message being displayed in Internet explorer is not shown as a link.  it appears displayed as plain text.
 
I have no idea if this has relevance to your probloem but bbased on the previous discussion I would suggest trying a different e-mail program, forwarding the message to yourself, and seeing if the links work properly.  I have no idea what will happen.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
But isn’t it the case that outside of this newsletter, your default browser opens?  Mine almost always does.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I am not using Outlook, but I’m using software that is no longer supported.  I didn’t mention that due to the out-of support rule.  I just tried again with another link, and got the message “Internet Explorer: Address not valid”.
 
Louise


Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I want to thank everyone who gave suggestions about saving a link for an email. It was a word link. I also want to thank Brian because he also did such a great job writing me privately to make sure I could work through it.


thanks to everyone for such a quick response.


I thought you might be interested that on the Asus keyboard shift-F10 key does not get me to the context menu. My daughter had to remind me--and now it is written down--that context menu on this laptop is the (I am not sure if it is saying FN or F-end key) plus the right control key. When I turn on keyboard help it does not say anything when I push down the key. It is just to the wright of the left control key.

On 5/28/2021 6:03 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


If you move to the link with K, you can do one of the following:

Application key, or Shift+F10, and choose Copy link or something like;

If the link is not a word, but a proper link you can press Insert+NumPad 5 three times...


Rui Fontes




Às 21:52 de 28/05/2021, Betsy Grenevitch escreveu:
I looked up what I had written in the past but have not been able to get the link to copy from an email to the clipboard so that I can put it in another email.


I am using the latest version of thunderbird and as far as I know the latest version of NVDA until the one that is just coming out.


Any help would be appreciated. What I tried is the insert key on the numpad while pressing the number 5 on the numpad twice but nothing seems to be saving to the clipboard.




--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:20 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m talking about written out links, http://www etc.
-
But I'm not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

Gene
 

The problem is that control right arrow doesn’t necessarily move you to the end of the link.  Its generally used for move by word but links are not necessarily interpreted as words and you may stop in the middle.  If you are using browse mode, where every link is on its own line and you do home then shift end, you will have selected the link and that should be reliable, just as it is on a web page.  I’m talking about written out links, http://www etc.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?
 
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 06:38 PM, Governor staten wrote:
ctrl+shift+right arrow should copy a link. Find the beginning of the link, then use the keyboard combination I gave you. After it is selected, use ctrl+c and that should copy it.
-
This is unreliable, in my experience, particularly if a screen reader is involved.

I just tried this about 15 minutes ago, with NVDA on, and all I got was the link text, but not the formatted click-through link using that text.  I could reliably do this then bring up the context menu and choose Copy Link Address.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:03 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
What is the ftp for this, I did look round but never found everything.

It's in the very material you quoted:  ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/embedded_viavoice/
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

What is the ftp for this, I did look round but never found everything.

I do have sapi eloquence but it will be interesting to bring more things to life if I can.

What I am really searching for are more voice packs like code factory where I can buy a flat rate for everything.

If I could do that with ivona or acapella I would or at least all english voices.

What attracted me to code factory vocaliser is one fee and I own all.

Thats not really necessary as I won't install all but if I need say a japanese voice or something which is more than microsoft's really good voices then well.



On 29/05/2021 8:39 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

You may need to hunt for this, as Windows CE Services 2.0 is not maintained, replaced by Microsoft ActiveSync, which in turn was replaced by Windows Mobile Device Center, which in turn was discontinued when Windows Mobile 6.x became unsupported. The voices from the FTP site are really meant for embedded devices running Windows CE and Pocket PC operating systems, which are completely different things than Windows 10 (API’s may look similar, but Windows CE cannot run apps written for Windows 10, nor Windows 10 can execute Windows CE executables).

Talking about Windows CE brings back all sorts of memories about a device from a long time ago, one that actually launched my dreams of becoming a software developer…

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zvonimir stanecic, 9a5dsz
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

Afoter downloading this, it turns out that you need windows ce services 2.0 to install this.

Where are the proper installers for this?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 8:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

However, you are in a list of files with names that don’t tell us what the files are for.  Which one or ones should be used for what?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 12:27 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about SAPI 4 version of eloquence

 

This link goes nowhere.


On 5/28/2021 1:02 PM, Hareth wrote:
> There you go:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/embedded_viavoice/
>
> On 5/28/21, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>> I meant I can't find the download link for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/2021 8:48 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria via groups.io wrote:
>>> I can't find the sownload link for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/28/2021 8:38 AM, Crayton Benner via groups.io wrote:
>>>> Last time I tried it, it worked fine with windows 10 no problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:31, Rosemarie Chavarria
>>>> <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Will it work with windows 10 or is it for older systems?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      On 5/28/2021 7:16 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>      also did you know that viavoice outloud sapi4 tts is available
>>>>>      to download for free on IBM's publically available and open ftp
>>>>>      site? It's buried inside of some folders on ftp.software.ibm.com
>>>>>      <ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com> ... But yes it is there for anybody
>>>>>      to go grab and install and use.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 06:38 PM, Governor staten wrote:
ctrl+shift+right arrow should copy a link. Find the beginning of the link, then use the keyboard combination I gave you. After it is selected, use ctrl+c and that should copy it.
-
This is unreliable, in my experience, particularly if a screen reader is involved.

I just tried this about 15 minutes ago, with NVDA on, and all I got was the link text, but not the formatted click-through link using that text.  I could reliably do this then bring up the context menu and choose Copy Link Address.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

Luke Davis
 

Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:



Actually it is a typing sound. In the 1800s the telegraph used that sound, or at least somethingn close to it. So I know what that means.


Interestingly, at least to me, it never occurred to me that that sound was meant to be a typing sound. The closest thing I could describe ass would be and artificial camera shutter sound, as somebody described  it earlier. I have used mechanical typewriters, electromechanical typewriters, and electronic keyboards of all varieties, and never have any of them sounded like that.

That said, I have stayed out of this one because I am generally in favor of earcons, as long as they are optional. I have enough things talking to me all day, it is a pleasure to get context from something other than an artificial voice. But I’m not saying anything new on this so I will shut up again.

Luke


Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

 

ctrl+shift+right arrow should copy a link. Find the beginning of the link, then use the keyboard combination I gave you. After it is selected, use ctrl+c and that should copy it.

On 5/28/2021 4:52 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I looked up what I had written in the past but have not been able to get the link to copy from an email to the clipboard so that I can put it in another email.


I am using the latest version of thunderbird and as far as I know the latest version of NVDA until the one that is just coming out.


Any help would be appreciated. What I tried is the insert key on the numpad while pressing the number 5 on the numpad twice but nothing seems to be saving to the clipboard.



Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

Gene
 

Did you write the link as http://www. etc?  It may not appear to be a link but it may be one.  For example, there are times when I write out links as I described above and the e-mail program shows the text of the title of the article where I wrote the link.  As I recall, the screen-reader doesn’t say link or see it as a link but if you send the message, the recipient will see the title and it will be recognized as a link.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?
 
It does not come across as a link when I try control-C. I had tried that
before asking my question. I have spent almost an hour on this.

On 5/28/2021 5:03 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
> Why not use the standard Windows keyboard shortcuts to select the
> text, copy it to the clipboard, and then paste it wherever?
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> If the link is on one line, you would go CTRL+Shift+End to select,
> CTRL+C to copy, then switch to wherever you want to paste and go
> CTRL+V to paste.
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> If you are unfamiliar with Windows basics like this, I recommend you
> get a copy of the Basic Training for NVDA available on the NV Access
> Website, and work through the examples.
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> On 2021-05-28 4:52 p.m., Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
>> I looked up what I had written in the past but have not been able to
>> get the link to copy from an email to the clipboard so that I can put
>> it in another email.
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>> I am using the latest version of thunderbird and as far as I know the
>> latest version of NVDA until the one that is just coming out.
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>> Any help would be appreciated. What I tried is the insert key on the
>> numpad while pressing the number 5 on the numpad twice but nothing
>> seems to be saving to the clipboard.
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Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


If you move to the link with K, you can do one of the following:

Application key, or Shift+F10, and choose Copy link or something like;

If the link is not a word, but a proper link you can press Insert+NumPad 5 three times...


Rui Fontes




Às 21:52 de 28/05/2021, Betsy Grenevitch escreveu:

I looked up what I had written in the past but have not been able to get the link to copy from an email to the clipboard so that I can put it in another email.


I am using the latest version of thunderbird and as far as I know the latest version of NVDA until the one that is just coming out.


Any help would be appreciated. What I tried is the insert key on the numpad while pressing the number 5 on the numpad twice but nothing seems to be saving to the clipboard.



Re: is there a way to copy a link from the body of an email?

 

Also, as several have already pointed out, this is definitely not "an NVDA thing."  

Cut/copy/paste is really not specific to any given program.  Those commands are built into Windows and all the various programs do is do a system call to do any one of those functions.

Context menus, however, are context (that would be program or part of program you're working in) specific.  Hence the name.  But even these are more similar for standard functions than they are different.
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