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Navigation between windows stops when you press the Windows key plus a number combination.

Daniele Casarola
 

Hi,

maybe you had the same issue and you can help me.

On my task bar at the second position I have the icon of Windows File Manager.

I usually have three or four windows open at the same time of the File Manager, each of which points to a different folder on my computer.

Pressing on the keyboard the shortcut Windows Key plus number 2, I easily open the first File Manager window, and the focus is inside this window.
Pressing Windows Key plus twice number 2 I open the second File Manager window and so on.

So if for example I'm reading something on a web browser window and I want to switch to the second File Manager window, I simply press Window Key plus twice number 2 and the focus moves directly inside this window.

It is a fast and easy way to navigate directly into a specific window.

Basically it works.

But for an unknown reason after some hours I'm working, it doesn't work properly anymore.

This happens:
1. The focus is on a web browser window.
2. I press Windows Key plus number 2 twice.
3. On the task bar is open the preview window of all File Manager windows opened. It is not directly opened the second File Manager window.
Basically it is the same effect as you press Window Key plus T, then you move with the Right arrow on the File Manager window and finally you press Up arrow to enter inside the list of opened File Manager window.
What I have to do at this point is to press left or right key to choose which window I want to open and then press Space Bar key.

It is pretty boring, because I switch continuously from one window to another.

The File Manager window is just an example.
the result it is the same if I have multiple istances of Microsoft Excel window, or Mozilla Firefox window.

I have the feelling it is not depending from the Screen Reader, but it is a Window Operating System issue, maybe a graphic issue?
I've removed all graphic effect, but with no result.

Anyway, somebody who had the same issue solved in some way?

I'm using NVDA at the last version and Windows 10 64 bit last update on a desktop PC.
The same anyway it is also on the laptop with Windows 10.

Thanks a lot.


Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Gene
 

I had to refresh the page when I was playing with this after I sent my message. Another list member said that you have to refresh the page sometimes. Its much more convenient to use a Chrome-based browser such as Chrome or Brave or Edge if you want to have easy access to the button. I have Firefox on my machine in case it works better on this or that site, but my experience is that, in general, Chrome-based browsers crash less and work better with screen-readers when moving through text. Sometimes, on The New York Times page, when I move by headings to move from article to article, there are movement problems where you try to move but stay where you are instead. I haven't played to see if this is common, there may be something about that site, but regardless, Chrome browsers work better with screen-readers.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail



Yep, turning browse mode off does indeed let me see the button. However, in Firefox it takes quite a few shift-tabs to get to it. It isn't very convenient at all.




I appreciate your help though.





Sure wish I could turn it on permanently though.




Dan Beaver


On 11/13/2020 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:
I said that the button is at the top of the page. At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it. Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times. You will see the button.

If you don't see something you should and its something you can tab to like an edit field, a button, etc. turn off the virtual pc cursor or browse mode and look

Gene
----Original Message----- From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail



Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.




I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.




When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.




This is getting super frustrating.




Thanks.




Dan Beaver


On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
This is getting super frustrating.





Thanks.




Dan Beaver


Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Reading All Unicode Characters with NVDA

Dzhovani
 

Hi,
Thank you for the information. I found this as one of the main discussions on the topic.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3805
Unfortunately, the greek letters issues is mentioned only ones and not after that.
Regards,
Dzhovani


Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Dan Beaver
 

Yep, turning browse mode off does indeed let me see the button.  However, in Firefox it takes quite a few shift-tabs to get to it.  It isn't very convenient at all.


I appreciate your help though. 


Sure wish I could turn it on permanently though.


Dan Beaver

On 11/13/2020 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:
I said that the button is at the top of the page.  At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it.  Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times.  You will see the button.

If you don't see something you should and its something you can tab to like an edit field, a button, etc. turn off the virtual pc cursor or browse mode and look

Gene
----Original Message----- From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail



Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all.  Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.




I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode.  I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.




When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode.  It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.




This is getting super frustrating.




Thanks.




Dan Beaver


On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line.  At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome.  My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again.  If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page.  I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
This is getting super frustrating.





Thanks.




Dan Beaver


Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to  basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@... wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails.  Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so.  How do we do this using NVDA?  There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Screen Capture with NVDA

Chris
 

Same again , windows+print screen keys together

Saves the screenshot in your pictures /screenshots folder

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 13 November 2020 17:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Screen Capture with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have been asked to share my screen using windows 10 and NVDA. How can I do that?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

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Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Gene
 

I said that the button is at the top of the page. At times, you won't see something in browse mode or the virtual pc cursor, whatever your browser calls it. Go to the top of the page, turn it off, and shift tab two or three times. You will see the button.

If you don't see something you should and its something you can tab to like an edit field, a button, etc. turn off the virtual pc cursor or browse mode and look

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail



Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.




I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.




When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.




This is getting super frustrating.




Thanks.




Dan Beaver


On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
This is getting super frustrating.





Thanks.




Dan Beaver


Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)




-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Screen Capture with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I have been asked to share my screen using windows 10 and NVDA. How can I do that?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 




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Resource Monitor 20.11 localization update, November 13th development snapshot #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Resource Monitor 20.11 is now available. This version includes localization updates. As always, you can check for the new version through Add-on Updater or visiting NVDA community add-ons website.

 

Also, for our adventurous users, November 13th development snapshot of Resource Monitor is also available (you must tell Add-on Updater to check for development releases). This snapshot includes a preview of what’s coming in version 21.01 (January 2021), including:

  • Windows version messages: the words “Windows version” are no longer announced (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Windows build.revision: if you are using Windows 10, you will notice that NVDA will announce build.revision (such as 19042.630). This announcement is now available for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 users as well. I will not make it available for Windows 7 and 8 because they are no longer supported by Microsoft (for consumers), and I’ll not be accepting any suggestions or pull requests regarding it.
  • Internal changes to prepare for future NVDA releases (too early to talk about specifics).

 

As always, feedback is appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Dan Beaver
 

Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all.  Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.


I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode.  I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.


When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode.  It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.


This is getting super frustrating.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line.  At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome.  My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again.  If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page.  I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
This is getting super frustrating.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to  basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails.  Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so.  How do we do this using NVDA?  There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)




-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA and Notepad ++ search

Gene
 

The NVDA search is not the proper command to use when not in browse mode. The search command for Notepad should be used, control f, and to repeat the search, f3.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

Hello,
I just tested with NVDA and another screen reader.
I had a document with two occurrences of the same word.
Pressing f3 brings me to the second occurrence. But it does not indicate that I changed the place in the document. So to be sure, I press escape after the result is displayed.
With the other screen reader the line where the word is located is displayed, so it is easier to understand that you reached another result.
Pressing escape is also helpful.
Otherwise, have you tried the NVDA search function : nvda+ctrl+F, then NVDA+F3 to search for the next occurrence ? It seems to work here.
But I still have to press escape at the end.
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gene via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2020 16:02
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

No, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. Its probably a Notepad problem since that is a Notepad command. You can check this by testing with another screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William


Re: NVDA and Notepad ++ search

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,
I just tested with NVDA and another screen reader.
I had a document with two occurrences of the same word.
Pressing f3 brings me to the second occurrence. But it does not indicate that I changed the place in the document. So to be sure, I press escape after the result is displayed.
With the other screen reader the line where the word is located is displayed, so it is easier to understand that you reached another result.
Pressing escape is also helpful.
Otherwise, have you tried the NVDA search function : nvda+ctrl+F, then NVDA+F3 to search for the next occurrence ? It seems to work here.
But I still have to press escape at the end.
Sylvie

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gene via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2020 16:02
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

No, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. Its probably a Notepad problem since that is a Notepad command. You can check this by testing with another screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William


Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

 

gene, yes, i had the problem which you mentioned.
i asked one of my relatives to do this for me.

On 11/13/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I

see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience,
however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when
you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press

the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that

experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but
you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode
but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



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Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Gene
 

It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
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Re: NVDA and Notepad ++ search

Gene
 

No, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. Its probably a Notepad problem since that is a Notepad command. You can check this by testing with another screen-reader.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of
text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the
focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no
more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William


Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Laz
 

Normally there's a link at the top of the page that says Basic HTML
view however at times, it doesn't show up. Just refresh the page as
many times as necessary until it shows up, Usually it only takes a
couple of refreshes.

Stay safe,

Laz

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



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Re: trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

 

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails.  Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so.  How do we do this using NVDA?  There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
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trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Dan Beaver
 

I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old emails.  Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but couldn't find the place to do so.  How do we do this using NVDA?  There doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



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NVDA and Notepad ++ search

William
 

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone  has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William


Re: Reading All Unicode Characters with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

There are currently several issues requesting various unicode characters.  I think the issue might be that there is no standard description for them that we could simply refer to - each one needs to be added by hand.  I haven't looked into it myself so might not be correct - or maybe as you wondered, they could all be added but it would cause a performance impact.  

Here is a link to a list of open issues which came up when I searched for "unicode": https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+unicode

With the punctuation / symbol pronunciation dialog, yes you can add symbols to that.  Open it, select add, type or paste the symbol, type the text to speak and a comment if desired.  The symbol level is the level the symbol text is read at, vs sending the symbol itself to the synthesizer.  For instance, the comma "," is set to symbol level "all".  There are four levels: "None", "Some", "Most", and "All".  NVDA only reads "comma" at Symbol level "all".  At lower symbol levels (none, some or most), NVDA simply sends the comma itself to the synthesizer, which acknowledges it by a slight pause in reading.  If the symbol level for comma was set to "some", then NVDA would pause at symbol level "none", but read the word "comma" at symbol level some, most and all.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 7:49 PM Dzhovani <dzhovani.chemishanov@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Currently, NVDA does not read all unicode symbols it encounters. While there is good support for emois, greek letters and some math symbols are not covered.
1. Can someone give me an idea how the symbol pronunciation dialog works and what is the relationship with the pronunciation level in the synthesizer?
2. Can it be extended to all unicode characters? Are there performance considerations included?
Thanks in advance,
Dzhovani



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Re: Alternate Voices

Sean Randall
 

Hi Andrea  

 

As Señor Esteban has rightly said, the real-time processing needs of screen readers and the way in which these voices are generated is not yet viable for full-time screen reader use.  In fact, all the messages on  the smart speakers about connecting to wi-fi and doing setup are pre-recorded audio files, and the other utterances are, for the most part, synthesized in the cloud and delivered as audio streams to the device.  This is why Alexa sounds the same across all apps and platforms, the act of generating the audio is handled outside of  the device.

 

Voices that sound good are very subjective of course. I quite like Ava, from the Vocalizer range, and neospeech had 2  voices called  Bridget and Julie (one was US and one UK English).  I grew up with formant synthesizers though, so still prefer my  Eloquence where I can get it.

 

 

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: 12 November 2020 16:19 20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternate Voices

 

Hi all.

The voices of Google in devices, Smart speakers, etc. don’t is available for NVDA because in webs like the Google Translator, the voices are online, and a screen reader read more information. The voice have a latency for a screen reader that depending of the internet connection.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual, con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology.

Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Certified expert in NVDA

 

De: Andrea Sherry
Enviado: jueves, 12 de noviembre de 2020 9:45
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] Alternate Voices

 

I have a Google Nest Smart speaker with the most amazing female voice.

 

Are these  Google voices available for NVDA?

 

Andrea

 

 

 

 

 

 

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