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Re: Are there any extensions for LibreOffice?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Gigi!

 

Yes indeed, everything you say is correct.  No doubt, some collaboration between NVDA and LibreOffice (LO) seems necessary. 

 

In fact, I am presently connected with a person in Germany who is involved with LO development and who has a keen interest in improving LO’s accessibility.  He has likewise noted that some sort of collaboration is needed.  My problem is that I do not have any contacts within NVDA to try to connect them with LO.  I have said to my LO contact that I am willing to volunteer to improve accessibility.  I just do not know how to go about it. 

 

Do you know what I can do to foster this?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gianluigi Coppelletti
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are there any extensions for LibreOffice?

 

Hi,

I'm afraid that there aren't any, but I really hope that the accessibility of LibreOffice with NVDA will be improved in the future, because more and more blind users are choosing this suite as this is a very good free alternative to MS-Office. Unfortunately this doesn't depend on the NVDA's developpers only.

Ciao.

Gigi

Il 01/04/2021 23.07, Richard B. McDonald ha scritto:

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10, NVDA 2020.4 and LibreOffice 7.2.  Are there any extensions for NVDA that improve its accessibility with LibreOffice?  In particular, LibreOffice has a spreadsheet application, Calc, that has some material accessibility issues.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: edit user guide

 

Microsoft documents, and well, each and every keyboard shortcut for virtually every product they make, and definitely for the Office suite programs.

These keyboard shortcuts, and all program-specific keyboard shortcuts, are not NVDA shortcuts and would have no place in the NVDA user guide, as they have nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA (or any screen reader, for that matter).
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Re: Working with MS-Excel

falkogiepmans@...
 

There is a nice video series on youtube by Teacher Ryan O. Unfortunately this is hearing based so I'm not sure if this is helpfull for you.
 
 


Re: NVDA User Guide doesn't open in default browser

falkogiepmans@...
 

Did you test it another web-based manual with the same extension? If it is a different kind of file the default program can be different as well.
 
 


edit user guide

falkogiepmans@...
 

Hi All,

I would like to include some windows key shortcuts for Excel in the user guide (like control+arrows to find data in a sheet). It occurred to me that a lot of people are not aware of this and look in the NVDA user guide thinking that is all. 
How can I efficiently contribute to this? Should I make a pull-request on the github of NVDA?

Thanks in advance,
Falko
 
 


Re: Pausing nvda...

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Nvda+S.If you press at first this hotkey, you stop the talking, if you press twice, Nvda will beef, if you press three, Nvda will talk.

Jarek


Dne 05.04.2021 v 14:20 Arun napsal(a):


What is the best way to pause nvda while I am on a skype call…

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Re: Pausing nvda...

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

You can use the shift key to pause /resume speech when a “say all” command has been issued but I don’t think it will work to block message announcements during a Skype call.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: 06 April 2021 01:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pausing nvda...

 

Hi List,

 

Maybe I've missed some posts on thisthread.

The simplest way to pause and resume nvda reading is to press the shift key,

like a toggle,  off and on.

It works.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis

Sent: April 5, 2021 6:03 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Pausing nvda...

 

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

 

> Is there another command that allows for NVDA output to be suspended,

entirely, while not requiring that one exit it?  I could have sworn there

was, but perhaps not.

 

Another? As in: other than speech mode off, which does exactly that?

 

Or, do you mean a command that will do what speech mode off does, but also

globally disable keyboard intercept as sleep mode does for an application?

If you want that, I don't know of anything, but then I can't imagine why

having that would be easier than unloading NVDA.

 

Setting your speech synth to "No speech" will do something similar to speech

mode off, and I suppose you can do that with a profile, which you can't do

with sleep mode.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: What are the accessible mathematics read and write solutions?

Sascha Cowley
 

There is MathPlayer, which works with NVDA and Firefox to make some maths content accessible. It also supposedly works with Microsoft Word, though I have personally never managed to get this working.
With experimental UIA support enabled for Word, native equations in Word are fairly accessible, or were when I tried it some months ago. I've also had a little success using equations in Google Docs, though I had trouble inputting them. I have not worked with the Docs equation editor very much at all, though, so I may have just been missing something.
Using LaTeX, or a similar (even ad hoc) plane text notation is often successful. The advantage with LaTeX is that it produces nicely typeset output. Unfortunately, it is extremely picky, and debugging output is often not very helpful. Plus it's just a lot to learn.


What are the accessible mathematics read and write solutions?

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Hi,

How do you write math equations to the sighted person with nvda?
Are there accessible methods for reading and writting mathematical meterials?


Re: NVDA21 incompatible with Code Factory’s Eloquence&Vocalizer voices?

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi,

I wrote e-mail to the codefactory devs.

They will make appropriate changes as needed.

Best,

Zvonimir

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA21 incompatible with Code Factory’s Eloquence&Vocalizer voices?

 

Hello,

 

2021.1 is an add-on-breaking release. It is hoped that add-on authors will update their add-ons, but any information regarding specific add-ons will come from the authors of that add-on. I would suggest possibly reaching out to them, or asking on the add-ons list, although I would hope that additional information will be provided to this group regarding popular add-ons in time as well.

 

Thanks.

 

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:37 AM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

What news do you guys have of NVDA2021’s incompatibility with version 1.9 of Code Factory’s Combo Eloquence&Vocalizer voices? I’ve a blind friend over at the Spanish NVDA group who is having this problem; he wants to try the Alfa versions of NVDA 2021.1 with the CF voices! the symth is recognized, but the voices don’t run. I wound’t want to run into unpleasant surprises upon updating! Thus if this it so, and because I know some of you guys here also have Code Factory’s Eloquence &Vocalizer combo, to be on the lookout for when the final NVDA version ie released. Any of you have have any ideas what’s going on?

Gera
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Re: Pausing nvda...

Monte Single
 

Hi List,

Maybe I've missed some posts on thisthread.
The simplest way to pause and resume nvda reading is to press the shift key,
like a toggle, off and on.
It works.

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: April 5, 2021 6:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pausing nvda...

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Is there another command that allows for NVDA output to be suspended,
entirely, while not requiring that one exit it?  I could have sworn there
was, but perhaps not.

Another? As in: other than speech mode off, which does exactly that?

Or, do you mean a command that will do what speech mode off does, but also
globally disable keyboard intercept as sleep mode does for an application?
If you want that, I don't know of anything, but then I can't imagine why
having that would be easier than unloading NVDA.

Setting your speech synth to "No speech" will do something similar to speech
mode off, and I suppose you can do that with a profile, which you can't do
with sleep mode.

Luke


Re: Pausing nvda...

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Is there another command that allows for NVDA output to be suspended, entirely, while not requiring that one exit it?  I could have sworn there was, but perhaps not.
Another? As in: other than speech mode off, which does exactly that?

Or, do you mean a command that will do what speech mode off does, but also globally disable keyboard intercept as sleep mode does for an application? If you want that, I don't know of anything, but then I can't imagine why having that would be easier than unloading NVDA.

Setting your speech synth to "No speech" will do something similar to speech mode off, and I suppose you can do that with a profile, which you can't do with sleep mode.

Luke


Re: Pausing nvda...

Gene
 

However, the beeps are much too high frequency. I find them very annoying. They should be much lower in tone.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pausing nvda...

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 03:33 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I have found a periodic use for beeps speech mode, when performing a long, automated process in which NVDA is chatty, and wanting to be able to walk away from the computer and know when the process is done, but not be bothered by speech.-
And I can see where that would be handy, on occasion. On those occasions I'd disable NoBeepsSpeechMode if I had installed that add-on, in order to use beeps mode, and then enable it again after the occasion has passed. Of course, if those occasions are frequent for you (any generic you) then there's no point in installing the add-on to begin with.

Of course, here's a case where being sighted, which I am, and able to view the status sans a screen reader makes all the difference. I can absolutely understand how beeps speech mode could be handy every once in a while, particularly with long-running processing you want to be able to walk away from and monitor whether it's completed yet.

I didn't know that NVDA Sleep mode was application specific. Is there another command that allows for NVDA output to be suspended, entirely, while not requiring that one exit it? I could have sworn there was, but perhaps not.
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Re: Pausing nvda...

 

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 03:33 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I have found a periodic use for beeps speech mode, when performing a long, automated process in which NVDA is chatty, and wanting to be able to walk away from the computer and know when the process is done, but not be bothered by speech.
-
And I can see where that would be handy, on occasion.  On those occasions I'd disable NoBeepsSpeechMode if I had installed that add-on, in order to use beeps mode, and then enable it again after the occasion has passed.  Of course, if those occasions are frequent for you (any generic you) then there's no point in installing the add-on to begin with.

Of course, here's a case where being sighted, which I am, and able to view the status sans a screen reader makes all the difference.  I can absolutely understand how beeps speech mode could be handy every once in a while, particularly with long-running processing you want to be able to walk away from and monitor whether it's completed yet.

I didn't know that NVDA Sleep mode was application specific.  Is there another command that allows for NVDA output to be suspended, entirely, while not requiring that one exit it?  I could have sworn there was, but perhaps not.
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Re: Strange behaviour of Google Chrome

Gene
 

You are evidently deleting cookies when you delete browsing data. I don't know what is making the site not work properly. it might be worth experimenting when it doesn't. You can tell browsers what to delete. You can try deleting other data first and save deleting cookies for last.

Another option might be to save your cookies, if that is the problem, at a time when the site is working properly. Do it as soon as you have reentered information and login is again automatic. Then, if deleting the cookies is necessary to solve the problem, restore the backed up cookies.

I don't know if you can back up cookies in the browser you are using. You can using Internet Explorer, but I haven't checcked other browsers.

Gene

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From: Louise Pfau
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of Google Chrome

Hi. I have to delete the browsing data from Microsoft Edge occasionally. I
was instructed to do so by the technical support for my banking website when
it wouldn't work correctly. I noticed that deleting the browsing data also
deleted the login information for all of the websites I use, so I had to
complete the extra security steps, which in some cases aren't very
accessible.

Louise


Re: Strange behaviour of Google Chrome

Arlene
 

Same here, I had to delete the browsing history from edge. My main browser is Chrome. In my book marks is my bank. Edge as well.

 

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From: Louise Pfau
Sent: April 5, 2021 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of Google Chrome

 

Hi.  I have to delete the browsing data from Microsoft Edge occasionally.  I

was instructed to do so by the technical support for my banking website when

it wouldn't work correctly.  I noticed that deleting the browsing data also

deleted the login information for all of the websites I use, so I had to

complete the extra security steps, which in some cases aren't very

accessible.

 

Louise

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Pausing nvda...

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

-And, if you're someone like me, who has never found the "Beep Speech" mode to be of any use, you can install the add-on:
NoBeepsSpeechMode
I was going to point this out. That said,
I have found a periodic use for beeps speech mode, when performing a long, automated process in which NVDA is chatty, and wanting to be able to walk away from the computer and know when the process is done, but not be bothered by speech.
For example: encoding a large mpeg file, updating certain applications, etc. In these cases, the periodic beeps let me know something is still happening, without being overly distracting as speech would be.
As a consequence, I have stopped using the add-on

In this particular case, there may be some value to knowing that NVDA is trying to tell you something it thinks is meaningful during a Skype call, without actually having to be distracted with the resultant speech.

There is also the option of using NVDA Sleep Mode, the
toggle for which is NVDA+Shift+S (desktop keyboard layout) or Z (laptop).  But once you do this NVDA is off, completely off, without being shut down.
...within the app in which the command is performed. Other apps and services will still speak.

Luke


Re: Strange behaviour of Google Chrome

Louise Pfau
 

Hi. I have to delete the browsing data from Microsoft Edge occasionally. I was instructed to do so by the technical support for my banking website when it wouldn't work correctly. I noticed that deleting the browsing data also deleted the login information for all of the websites I use, so I had to complete the extra security steps, which in some cases aren't very accessible.

Louise


Re: NVDA21 incompatible with Code Factory’s Eloquence&Vocalizer voices?

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

2021.1 is an add-on-breaking release. It is hoped that add-on authors will update their add-ons, but any information regarding specific add-ons will come from the authors of that add-on. I would suggest possibly reaching out to them, or asking on the add-ons list, although I would hope that additional information will be provided to this group regarding popular add-ons in time as well.

Thanks.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 11:37 AM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:
What news do you guys have of NVDA2021’s incompatibility with version 1.9 of Code Factory’s Combo Eloquence&Vocalizer voices? I’ve a blind friend over at the Spanish NVDA group who is having this problem; he wants to try the Alfa versions of NVDA 2021.1 with the CF voices! the symth is recognized, but the voices don’t run. I wound’t want to run into unpleasant surprises upon updating! Thus if this it so, and because I know some of you guys here also have Code Factory’s Eloquence &Vocalizer combo, to be on the lookout for when the final NVDA version ie released. Any of you have have any ideas what’s going on?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel






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NVDA21 incompatible with Code Factory’s Eloquence&Vocalizer voices?

Gerardo Corripio
 

What news do you guys have of NVDA2021’s incompatibility with version 1.9 of Code Factory’s Combo Eloquence&Vocalizer voices? I’ve a blind friend over at the Spanish NVDA group who is having this problem; he wants to try the Alfa versions of NVDA 2021.1 with the CF voices! the symth is recognized, but the voices don’t run. I wound’t want to run into unpleasant surprises upon updating! Thus if this it so, and because I know some of you guys here also have Code Factory’s Eloquence &Vocalizer combo, to be on the lookout for when the final NVDA version ie released. Any of you have have any ideas what’s going on?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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