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Re: NVDA and Skype for business

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Pls read my answer in the german mailing list.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Schoepplein
Sent: Donnerstag, 4. April 2019 17:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Skype for business

Hi,

is Skype for business useable with NVDA`? I have to use SFB 2015 for my job and the program itself seems to be useable more or less, but chat conversations are absolutely not accessible.

Has anyone an idea how to use SFB?

Ciao,

Schoepp


Re: NVDA and Skype for business

Mike Sedmak
 

I use skype for business at work.
I am not a big fan of chat in general so I used the settings to have
unread chats show up in my exchange mail account.

I can use chat with NVDA, it requires some object navigation in the
chat pane instead of just arrow/tab navigation. Once in the chat pane
use the object nav read by line and line navigation (num pad in
desktop layout).

FWIW my employer uses office 365 so our install is newer than 2015.
Skype® for Business for Office 365 MSO (16.0.11328.20144) 32-bit

Mike

On 4/4/19, Christian Schoepplein <chris@schoeppi.net> wrote:
Hi,

is Skype for business useable with NVDA`? I have to use SFB 2015 for my
job and the program itself seems to be useable more or less, but chat
conversations are absolutely not accessible.

Has anyone an idea how to use SFB?

Ciao,

Schoepp







Re: GoldWave

 

Hi,

Hmmm, based on the brief conversation we had, it could be either:

  1. The executable name has changed somehow.
  2. NVDA is not detecting the sound window.

 

Resolving this will require looking at the debug log and/or a remote troubleshooting method (via Remote add-on and Skype). Can you try the following for me:

  1. Close GoldWave.
  2. Restart NVDA with debug logging enabled (but after GoldWave is fully closed).
  3. Start GoldWave.
  4. Open a file in GoldWave.
  5. Open NVDA log viewer (NVDA+F1).
  6. Once log viewer opens, copy and paste all text you see in log viewer as a reply – either to this list or privately.
  7. After sending a reply, restart NVDA.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 4:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] goldwave

 

I got the new goldWave addon unfortunately, when I press any function key nothing is said. The same when pressing any bracket. I’m not sure what happened at the end of March but…

 

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NVDA and Skype for business

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hi,

is Skype for business useable with NVDA`? I have to use SFB 2015 for my
job and the program itself seems to be useable more or less, but chat
conversations are absolutely not accessible.

Has anyone an idea how to use SFB?

Ciao,

Schoepp


Re: Assistive technology research and development

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Foundation fighting blindness is doing essentially that.  Fighting blindness.  They have no interest in improving quality of life for blind people and they make me seriously angry.  They do good research in vision health and they make money exploiting blind people doing so.  A win win for them.

NFB ocasionally funds a project.  AFB, CNIB and other agencies sometimes fund things, but primarily with an eye towards direct sales for recovering investment.  Some of the most interesting stuff on the market right now such as sunu, dotwatch and brailleme don't say where their funding came from, but I suspect the sources are as diverse as the companies and products.

The nfb keeps a log of misbegotten technologies built to help the blind.  White canes that deliver electric shock,  wayfinding devices that clap loudly so blind people can walk towards a sound.  That sort of nonsense.

So much of the stuff that gets built to help us gets nearly to production before any one asks whether it would be useful to the blind.  A world wide funding agency for blindness technology research could be either a godsend if it is run by the blind and keeps out the sensation mongers, or an atrocity if it uses fear of blindness to raise money and throws dollars at every shambling frankenstein cooked up in the basement of every dgooder who wants to help the blind but doesn't really want anything to do with blindness or blind people.

Best,

Erik

On April 3, 2019 8:54:44 PM "Jeffrey McFarland" <jmcfarland86@...> wrote:

Is there an organization/foundation that is focused on assistive technology research and development, devices prototyping, improved device and computer software for people with disabilities.  For instance, were products like the Sunu band, Buzzclip, JAWS, NVDA, Window Narrator, Be my eyes, Aira, Seeing AI, WeWalk etc etc. funded by grants the same way something like LUXTURNA was in part funded by FFB? Its clear that Foundation Fighting Blindness excels in fundraising and fund allocation in clinical trails, medical research funding, medical prosthetic areas.


Focus 40 Braille Display input for shift key using NVDA

bharath bathula
 

Hi,

What is the key combination on Focus 40 Braille display in order to access "SHIFT" key using NVDA?

Thanks & Regards
 Bharath


Re: OE Classic 2.9 released

 

Did you not see the accessibility updates in the previous releases notes? regardless, this version is far more accessible, but absolutely no IMAP support. I personally don't understand why people use POP anyway, but anyway... Below is their help page on identities.

https://www.oeclassic.com/online-help-identities


Re: GoldWave

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Is there anyway you can include an alt I command to jump to look in and save in?

 

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave

 

Hi,

What I am really after is the executable name – it should be goldwave.exe, but somehow you’re seeing something else.

Note that I might drop support for GoldWave 5.70 once Python 3 version of NVDA is released (later).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] GoldWave

 

Jeff did you get my last post with the answers you asked for?

NVDA+control+f1 = you are currently running GoldWave 5.7

I am running the latest GoldWave, NVDA and GoldWave addon. I get no announcements when any function key is pressed nor when brackets are pressed.

 

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Re: GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 #addonrelease

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Man! I am going to hate losing my alt+I command when opening and saving a file.

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 2:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 #AddonRelease

 

I still don't see why you don't want to support the 32 bit version of

goldwave. Its used a lot.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 6:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version

to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 #AddonRelease

 

 

> Hi all,

> In a few hours GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be released. This one is a minor

> update that brings latest and greatest localization updates for many

> languages.

> IMPORTANT COMPATIBILITY NOTICE: GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be the last

> version to support NVDA versions earlier than 2019.1 (currently this

> add-on

> supports NVDA 2017.3 and later in consideration for people using Windows

> XP). At least 30 days after Python 3 version of NVDA is released (TBD),

> GoldWave add-on will require:

> * NVDA 2019.1 and later

> * GoldWave 6

> * Windows 7 SP1 and later, 64-bit

> For people who are not using the combination specified above, GoldWave

> add-on 19.04 will be the last version. The following groups of people will

> be affected:

> 1. Anyone using Windows XP, Vista or 7 without service pack 1

> 2. Anyone using GoldWave 5.x

> 3. Anyone using NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 (technically, 2018.4

> will work; see below)

> Reason for requiring NVDA 2019.1 (or for that matter, 2018.4) and later:

> NVDA 2018.4 introduces a much improved way to assign multiple commands to

> a

> script (specifically, via scriptHandler.script decorator). For GoldWave

> add-on, this eases assigning GoldWave native commands to routines

> performed

> by NVDA.

> Python 3 compatibility notice (for reference purposes): GoldWave add-on is

> compatible with a future Python 3 version of NVDA.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

>

 

 

 

 


GoldWave

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I got the new goldWave addon unfortunately, when I press any function key nothing is said. The same when pressing any bracket. I’m not sure what happened at the end of March but…

 

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Re: Word issues at page boundaries again

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

Hi,
with which version of Word are you experiencing this? I haven't seen
this behavior even a single time in Word 2010.
--
Lukasz

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 16:41:58 +0100
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Hi does everyone have issues when going through a page boundary on various flavours of Microsoft word. Originally making the view normal and the zoom 200 percent seemed to fix this getting stuck issue, but it seems to no longer reliably work in the latest nvda stable version

Is there a trick I'm maybe not seeing on how to set up either nvda or word versions to get it to play nicely?
Brian

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Re: Google Searches

Gene
 

I strongly believe that this isn't something you just make an on/off judgment about.  (It may be better to use one search engine for some purposes and another for others.  Google tailors search results to your interests so you may see articles reflecting your political point of view much more in the first many results, perhaps enough that you will miss variety you should be aware of.  Tailoring results in this way, encouraging entrapment in your own view is not a service and should be eliminated.  If Startpage doesn't do that, that's very good and a good reason to use it where such selection of results matters.  But Google has other advantages that are important and one that is especially important to blind users.
 
I doubt that other search engines have the cache feature Google has.  I just checked Startpage and it doesn't.  With google, some sites aren't cached because they can request not to be.  but this feature is far more useful than most, perhaps almost anyone, realizes.  And it is particularly useful for blind people for the following reason:
 
first, caching lets you see a page when the site is temporarily not available for some reason.  But more than that, and of particular interest to blind users, if a PDF or some other format comes up in the results, such as  a PDF article, if you use the cached version, you get the pdf shown as a web page, in HTML, converted by Google.  You don't have to do anything in terms of working with a browser plugin or converting it yourself.
 
And I noticed when I was comparing that Google has a similar link for each result.  Startpage doesn't.  In short, it may be that results are the same or similar, when you are just looking at results, but caching isn't there and similar isn't there and they may be important at times, especially caching.  I once was able to read an article in a format nothing on my machine handled.
 
Also, it isn't defeatist at all.  As I said, I don't search when signed into my account, which makes matching me with my searches harder.  I don't believe in tilting at windmills for no benefit.  After the Equifax data breach in The United States, and, if you follow technology news somewhat, you see that data breaches occur once or twice a week a lot of the time, I'm supposed to worry about whether advertising data collectors know that I bought a certain brand of shoes or looked at a certain book online and send me customized advertising?  I use the tools that serve me best if there is no meaningful reason not to. 
 
And how many people use Facebook who don't use Google?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Searches

That is rather defeatist though that is exactly what they want us to think.

However not really on topic here.
 I personally only use Google as a last resort these days.
 Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Searches


You didn't get malware from Google and Google may have features the search
engine you are using doesn't have.  You may have gotten malware by following
a link in a search but that can happen with any search result from any
search engine.  The site itself may be fine but the third party advertising
on the site may be hacked.  It's a serious enough problem that it has been
reported on by national media.

I don't search when signed into my Google account, which makes it much
harder for google to know who is searching.  but aside from that precaution,
with all the unending security breaches and all the other ways of collection
information, do you use a smart phone?  Do you use loyalty cards at stores?
Do you use Facebook?  then why worry about doing Google searches?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Searches


Hey don’t use Google for search. You use start page.  It’s like google. But
it is more private.  I don’t search with it o more for that reason!  I ended
up with mellwhere with my last windows 7 box.  After that I quit using
google as my search engine.



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From: Ralph Boersema
Sent: April 3, 2019 5:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Searches



Dear Friends,



I wonder if someone can tell me what is happening with my Google searches
and what I need to change. I use Windows 10 and Firefox. Since last night,
whenever I do a Google search and click on a result to go to that web page,
I get another Google search page instead and with every follow-up click I
get another Google page.



Warmly,

Ralph











Re: Is this add on error an issue?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well that failed miserably, sorry.
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Subject: [nvda] Is this add on error an issue?


Speaking [IndexCommand(6), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Get NVDA from: http://www.nvaccess.org/\r\nYour continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. ']
IO - speech.speak (09:07:14.887):
Speaking [IndexCommand(7), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Donate at: \r\nhttp://www.nvaccess.org/donate\r\nOther links: \r\nCome talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA \r\nGet NVDA add-ons at: \r\nhttp://addons.nvda-project.org/\r\nNVDA on Facebook: \r\nhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515\r\nGet SkypeTalking for NVDA: \r\nhttp://skypetalking.googlecode.com/\r\n-=-=-\r\nGroup Owner: nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io\r\nUnsubscribe: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged [bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]\r\n


Is this add on error an issue?

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Speaking [IndexCommand(6), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Get NVDA from: http://www.nvaccess.org/\r\nYour continued donations help keep NVDA development going strong. ']
IO - speech.speak (09:07:14.887):
Speaking [IndexCommand(7), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Donate at: \r\nhttp://www.nvaccess.org/donate\r\nOther links: \r\nCome talk with other NVDA users on irc.blufudge.net #NVDA \r\nGet NVDA add-ons at: \r\nhttp://addons.nvda-project.org/\r\nNVDA on Facebook: \r\nhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515\r\nGet SkypeTalking for NVDA: \r\nhttp://skypetalking.googlecode.com/\r\n-=-=-\r\nGroup Owner: nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io\r\nUnsubscribe: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged [bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]\r\n-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-']
ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (09:07:30.586):
Error in func update from eventQueue
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 53, in flushQueue
File "C:\nvda extra\userConfig\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 489, in update
File "C:\nvda extra\userConfig\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 393, in updateLocations
File "C:\nvda extra\userConfig\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 269, in updateFocusLocation
File "C:\nvda extra\userConfig\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 249, in locationAvailable
TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len()
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (09:07:40.535):

This popped up while the machine was just sitting minding its own business in an email folder in Outlook express hacked for windows 7 inbox.

Nothing very taxing going on.
Latest alpha running as portable.
Brian

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Re: Assistive technology research and development

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I don't think here is appropriate for this thread, but I do notice that we really need a world wide system, at present it seems that there are national organisations but with few teeth. The big problem at the moment is white goods not being accessible.
However this is all I'll say here.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey McFarland" <jmcfarland86@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 1:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] Assistive technology research and development


Is there an organization/foundation that is focused on assistive technology research and development, devices prototyping, improved device and computer software for people with disabilities. For instance, were products like the Sunu band, Buzzclip, JAWS, NVDA, Window Narrator, Be my eyes, Aira, Seeing AI, WeWalk etc etc. funded by grants the same way something like LUXTURNA was in part funded by FFB? Its clear that Foundation Fighting Blindness excels in fundraising and fund allocation in clinical trails, medical research funding, medical prosthetic areas.


Re: OE Classic 2.9 released

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Does it do identities as Outlook Express does. Also how accessible is it?
I am disappointed no imap, as I use both so I can keep an eye on the spam folders without using webmail.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 11:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] OE Classic 2.9 released


Below is the download link, the news page link, and their extremely
poorly spelled and written release notes in plain text because it is in
this weird table in the blog. 1 column, 1 row. Anyway, enjoy! And, no, I
don't use the pro version, so can't tell you what features it has. This
is a TB alternative, but only does POP. Not IMAP.


The download page <https://www.oeclassic.com/download>;.


The news release page. <https://www.oeclassic.com/news_n80>;


After long development time, OE Classic 2.9 is finally available. This
time, we bring you many great new updates - the list of new features and
updates to the existing features is longer than ever!

Spell checker is now built-in into the program and supports 43 different
languages or language variations!
Spell checker is now built-in into the program and supports 43 different
languages or language variations!

Spelling options and dictionary selection.
Spelling options and dictionary selection.

Blocked senders and Safe senders list editor.
Blocked senders and Safe senders list editor.

9 new tools in the Message Editor!
9 new tools in the Message Editor!

Customization of the Message Editor toolbar.
Customization of the Message Editor toolbar.

Right-click menus for adding to the Safe Senders or Blocked Senders and
other options.
Right-click menus for adding to the Safe Senders or Blocked Senders and
other options.

Copy and Paste any image or screenshot into the Message Editor.
Copy and Paste any image or screenshot into the Message Editor.

8 new tools in the Find window!
8 new tools in the Find window!


New features
• Safe and Blocked senders filter, editor window and right click option
for quickly adding to the list
• Spell checker in the Message Editor and spell checker Options (Always
check spelling before sending, Ignore words in UPPERCASE, Ignore words
with numbers)
• Spell checker dictionary download in Options (41 supported languages
or language variations)
• 9 new localization files - Simplified Chinese (China), Traditional
Chinese (Hong Kong, Taiwan), Czech, Danish, Greek, Hungarian, Norwegian,
Slovenian
• 8 new Message Editor tools - Clear Formatting, Strikethrough,
Superscript, Subscript, Insert Table, Insert Symbol, Insert Emoji,
Right-To-Left/Left-To-Right Paragraph
• 8 new Find window tools - Properties, Select All, Copy to Folder, Move
to Folder, Delete, Reply to Sender, Reply to All, Forward
• Preview pane header redesigned to show more info which can be
interacted with (right click) - Add to Address Book, Copy (subject or
email), Add to Safe Senders/Blocked Senders
• External images are unblocked when a sender is in the Safe Senders list
• Improved focus in Find/Search window - message list is focused after
search has completed, messages can be opened using Enter key
• Address Book group items now have the fitting icon
• Various icon modifications for increased visual clarity
• Improved accessibility for Address Book Select window, also the search
field is initially focused so typing immediately after opening the
window starts the address book search
• View/Encoding menu item for selecting Left-To-Right or Right-To-Left
text direction for received messages
• New Text Highlighting Color button in the Message Editor and an
additional drop-down next to the color selection buttons (clicking the
button applies the color to selected text and clicking drop-down selects
a new color)
• Print Preview added in File menu
• Folder related operations are 30% faster (may be noticeable to users
having thousands of folders)
• Improvements in right click menu for folders and fixing some
inconsistencies
• Auto-detection of email settings attempts to use TLS 1.2 (if server
supports it)
• Installation now tests if it can overwrite required files (when
upgrading) and if unsuccessful (e.g. blocked by antivirus) it keeps the
old installation in place and reports an error to avoid ending with a
partial installation
• Improved display of some windows when using high-contrast color
schemes or themes
• Customization of Contact list, Folder list and Message list fonts in
Options
• Find window - New keyboard shortcuts (Delete/Enter on messages, CTRL
shortcuts), main menu items, progress in percentage while searching
• Customization of Message Editor formatting toolbar and large icons for
high-DPI screens
• Clipboard images can be directly pasted into the Message Editor (using
Paste button)
• Improved auto-selection of account which is used to reply - only if
unambiguous (no 2 or more accounts with the same From email)
• Quick selection and display of used spell checker language and message
format (Plain Text or HTML) in the Message Editor status bar
• Export of EML files now sets file dates based on the Received date and
allows a total of 200 characters in the full path
• Clicking column header now also focuses the message/contact list
underneath
• Security options (Advanced) to enable/disable scripting
(JavaScript/VBScript) and ActiveX for incoming messages
• Added Copy to the right click menu when editing the group (copies
names and emails to clipboard)
• Account Properties - Auto Config button for easier configuration,
Authentication type is now under Expert tab, added Authentication type
for Outgoing server (SMTP)
• Drag and drop of EML files from Windows shell to OE Classic folder -
imports EML files into the folder

Bug fixes
• Message Editor did not show up correctly when maximized
• Plain text messages did not have Content-Transfer-Encoding header
specified
• Forwarding a message did not respect the Reply to messages in same
format option
• Fixed some High-DPI issues
• Focus is no longer lost after selecting font color in the Message Editor
• Reset List button (Newsgroups) did not work
• Disabled redirection to avoid the issue of some messages not being
displayed
• Print no longer duplicates printing headers (if started multiple times)
• Updated visual components to fix some visual glitches and a few other
high-DPI fixes
• Improved mouse wheel handling to make it scroll in the Source Editor,
Signatures Editor (Options) and some other controls
• Disabled Java and ActiveX (by default) to avoid serious security
vulnerabilities associated with them
• Updated SSL/TLS libraries with the latest bug/security fixes (v1.0.2q)
• Updated built-in SQLite with the latest bug fixes (v3.27.2.0)




Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?

 

do you mean that firefox 45 usual, 45ESR and 48 which all support old
processors, are the same in speed and stability?

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I don't know if that works, but certainly in version 52 it is on by default,

but I'm not sure that the item mentioned is in any way the whole story
here.
I think the significance of version 48 is that it is the last version that
supports AMD old style processors that do not have the sse2 instruction set

as standard, so after that firefox cannot be run.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old
systems?


also, firefox 48 supports multiprocess.
does it mean that firefox 48 also is not good for me?
to disable multiprocess in every version of firefox, in the address bar,
type
about:config
accept the warning message.
in the search bar, type
browser.tabs.remote.autostart
or peist it and press tab to find it.
press enter on it to make it false, if its value is true.

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I the code in the 52 version was optimised for multi processor cores so
it
goes in jerks due to it trying to do all the tasks at the same time.
There

is probably a way to turn multi core support off, but I do not know what

it

is.
Brian

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old
systems?


thanks brian for your great advice for me to use firefox 45.
its more fast, reliable and needs less system resources in compare to
firefox 52 i believe.
my laptop processor is intel, but i am really not satisfied of newer
versions of firefox.
one computer engineer told me that i can change user agent in mozilla
firefox.
i tested one time, and it did not mention again that my firefox is old
and i should update it!
but unfortunately my problems and not working github is not resolved
for
me.
only it could prevents the message for updating firefox.

i found how to change user agent in different browsers by searching
google.
hear you are the link, God bless you!

https://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how-to-change-your-browsers-user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/

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Well if its AMD, myself I use 45, the big problem nowadays is that
many

web

sites do not like these versions, just in the same way as they do not
like
IE8. I get a banner saying sorry, update your browser goodbye!


I am not aware if this is merely sites detecting the browser version,
or
whether if the browser version presented to the site was spoofed if
the
site

might then work. If anyone knows any hacks to make Firefox older
versions
pretend to be newer, then its probably off topic here, but maybe post
a
link to a place where they can be found, at the users risk of course.
The thing is there will always be those who just are unable to update
their

machines either due to poverty or political embargoes etc, so there is
always going to be the need for such work arounds like Tor browser for
example and its a real shame those making that have messed up
accessibility

in their recent updates.


Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 8:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old
systems?


hi every one.
i used firefox 52.9 and tor version 7.5.6 which is based on this
version of firefox also.
however, i remembered that brian always mentioned that firefox 52 is
not very fast with windows xp and old processors.
can you please tell me between firefox 45.9 and 48, which one is
better?
i am not satisfied with newer versions of firefox and toor, because
of
overheating my laptop, unresponsiveness and slowness of nvda and
brows
mode not working.
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!

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I would not do it.
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Re: GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 #addonrelease

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I still don't see why you don't want to support the 32 bit version of goldwave. Its used a lot.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 6:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 #AddonRelease


Hi all,



In a few hours GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be released. This one is a minor
update that brings latest and greatest localization updates for many
languages.



IMPORTANT COMPATIBILITY NOTICE: GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be the last
version to support NVDA versions earlier than 2019.1 (currently this add-on
supports NVDA 2017.3 and later in consideration for people using Windows
XP). At least 30 days after Python 3 version of NVDA is released (TBD),
GoldWave add-on will require:



* NVDA 2019.1 and later
* GoldWave 6
* Windows 7 SP1 and later, 64-bit



For people who are not using the combination specified above, GoldWave
add-on 19.04 will be the last version. The following groups of people will
be affected:



1. Anyone using Windows XP, Vista or 7 without service pack 1
2. Anyone using GoldWave 5.x
3. Anyone using NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1 (technically, 2018.4
will work; see below)



Reason for requiring NVDA 2019.1 (or for that matter, 2018.4) and later:
NVDA 2018.4 introduces a much improved way to assign multiple commands to a
script (specifically, via scriptHandler.script decorator). For GoldWave
add-on, this eases assigning GoldWave native commands to routines performed
by NVDA.



Python 3 compatibility notice (for reference purposes): GoldWave add-on is
compatible with a future Python 3 version of NVDA.



Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Visual Studio vs Visual Studio Code

Jacob Kruger
 

Jeffrey, visual studio code is meant to, specifically, have taken accessibility into account - see the following page, and, they, among other things, specifically refer to keyboard navigation, etc.:

https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/accessibility


But, honestly, as a full-time web developer myself, I just work with programmer's text editors, etc., and, haven't bothered with an IDE for quite a while.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2019-04-04 2:51 AM, Jeffrey McFarland wrote:
I am a Web programmer and really like Visual Studio Code. I sat down tonight to try and learn how to use VS code with NVDA. First thing I noticed is VS code recognizes a screen reader is present. VS code then tell me, among a few other things, that code folding is disabled when VS code is optimized for a screen reader. I also noticed that NVDA was not reading my code tile (JavaScript). In addition, use the tab key did not navigate any of the items in VS code. I'm very new to screen readers as my vision has only recently gotten worse. With that said there is probably a obvious solution to the above issues. I also think I remember a post not to long ago in this group where someone went into detail as to why VS code intrinsically has issues with screen readers.


Re: Word issues at page boundaries again

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Its also going on in Microsoft Office though, and it never used to.
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Word issues at page boundaries again


If you're talking about the situation where you move to the next page, and it keeps saying the last line of the former page:
I've been seeing this in Open Office for a while now. I've not found any solution that is satisfactory, except the normal resolution to any NVDA out-of-sync with screen contents issue: maximize or restore the window via alt-space.

Open Office has several of these, most common when deleting selected text, but recently also with changing pages.

Luke

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi does everyone have issues when going through a page boundary on various flavours of Microsoft word. Originally making the view normal and the zoom 200 percent seemed to fix this getting stuck issue, but it seems to no longer reliably work in the latest nvda stable version