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Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Gene
 

That wasn't for clickable items.  That was for mouse over links.  But perhaps something like that might be done for what I'm discussing.  The problem is how the screen-reader would know when to report something.  With mouse over links it did so when you used a special mouse over command, but this would be for activating standard controls.
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

When I first saw clickables etc way back a zillion years ago, I remember jfw saying Page changed at line x. You would then go to line x and see the change. Maybe something like that?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 20:29, Gene wrote:

I just looked at what happens when you activate the button.  a license agreement is presented at the bottom of the page, as shown by a screen-reader.  To a sighted person, the agreement might be along the right of the page, I don't know.  To a blind user, the accept and download link is the last thing on the page, below the lisence agreement. 
 
I asked about NVDA speaking new content after an action is taken such as activating a button.  But this page illustrates the difficulty in implementing such a feature.  You probably wouldn't want the license agreement read, just the accept and agree button or maybe a senteence of the license agreement and then the button, to alert the reader that both are now present.  But that sort of detailed response might not be practical. 
So how, if at all, should a screen-reader react under such circumstances?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

I'll look at the page but my question before looking is whether the I agree button is there before you activate the button.  Whether it is or not, the thread brings up a screen-reader question.  Could NVDA be made to know when the screen changes in response to an action?  For example, now and then, something will come up or change on a web page when a user activates a button that the user doesn't expect or know about.  It wouldn't be a good idea to have screen-readers automatically read every change that occurs on screen.  But in specific instances, it would be important.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

There is an agree etc that opens up below the dl section. If you use your button nav you should be able to find it. After that, go back up to the dl section after excepting the license agreement.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 17:22, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows10.1903 and NVDA’s saying Volume level?

 

I do like it except that it will repeat it constantly when adjusting and lag behind in doing so.

When you plug or unplug a speaker or headset the volume is also announced.

On 30/06/2019 10:22 AM, Stephanie Smeader wrote:
I like that when NVDA tells us what our volume levels are!


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Re: NVDA crash.

Sarah k Alawami
 

AAre you also usign eloquence? We've I think already confirmed it is a problem with a word, or something. If you are, contact code factory and se if they can fix it.

Take care and good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 21:09, Arlene wrote:

Confirm your problem. I am using google Chrome with the latest NVDA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chantelle Buys
Sent: June 29, 2019 3:54 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA crash.

 

Afternoon everyone.

 

I've just come across a problem and after testing it on google chrome

and internet explorer I think that it may be NVDA.

 

I'm trying to read a chapter of a story but, halfway down NVDA would

restart. I don't know if it's because of the amount of text or what

but, I've never had this problem before.

 

The restarts happens when it gets to the line. "Things were taking a

dangerous turn.

Biggs picked up a branch that was tangled in the long-dried weeds that

Winston had eradicated."

 

Here's the link to the chapter

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13258648/35/A-Quiet-Day

 

Can someone test it and see if their NVDA does this as well?

 

Thanks.

 

Chantelle

--

Never give up, at any cost.

 

 

 


Re: NVDA crash.

Arlene
 

Confirm your problem. I am using google Chrome with the latest NVDA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chantelle Buys
Sent: June 29, 2019 3:54 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA crash.

 

Afternoon everyone.

 

I've just come across a problem and after testing it on google chrome

and internet explorer I think that it may be NVDA.

 

I'm trying to read a chapter of a story but, halfway down NVDA would

restart. I don't know if it's because of the amount of text or what

but, I've never had this problem before.

 

The restarts happens when it gets to the line. "Things were taking a

dangerous turn.

Biggs picked up a branch that was tangled in the long-dried weeds that

Winston had eradicated."

 

Here's the link to the chapter

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13258648/35/A-Quiet-Day

 

Can someone test it and see if their NVDA does this as well?

 

Thanks.

 

Chantelle

--

Never give up, at any cost.

 

 

 


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Sarah k Alawami
 

When I first saw clickables etc way back a zillion years ago, I remember jfw saying Page changed at line x. You would then go to line x and see the change. Maybe something like that?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 20:29, Gene wrote:

I just looked at what happens when you activate the button.  a license agreement is presented at the bottom of the page, as shown by a screen-reader.  To a sighted person, the agreement might be along the right of the page, I don't know.  To a blind user, the accept and download link is the last thing on the page, below the lisence agreement. 
 
I asked about NVDA speaking new content after an action is taken such as activating a button.  But this page illustrates the difficulty in implementing such a feature.  You probably wouldn't want the license agreement read, just the accept and agree button or maybe a senteence of the license agreement and then the button, to alert the reader that both are now present.  But that sort of detailed response might not be practical. 
So how, if at all, should a screen-reader react under such circumstances?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

I'll look at the page but my question before looking is whether the I agree button is there before you activate the button.  Whether it is or not, the thread brings up a screen-reader question.  Could NVDA be made to know when the screen changes in response to an action?  For example, now and then, something will come up or change on a web page when a user activates a button that the user doesn't expect or know about.  It wouldn't be a good idea to have screen-readers automatically read every change that occurs on screen.  But in specific instances, it would be important.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

There is an agree etc that opens up below the dl section. If you use your button nav you should be able to find it. After that, go back up to the dl section after excepting the license agreement.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 17:22, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Gene
 

I just looked at what happens when you activate the button.  a license agreement is presented at the bottom of the page, as shown by a screen-reader.  To a sighted person, the agreement might be along the right of the page, I don't know.  To a blind user, the accept and download link is the last thing on the page, below the lisence agreement. 
 
I asked about NVDA speaking new content after an action is taken such as activating a button.  But this page illustrates the difficulty in implementing such a feature.  You probably wouldn't want the license agreement read, just the accept and agree button or maybe a senteence of the license agreement and then the button, to alert the reader that both are now present.  But that sort of detailed response might not be practical. 
So how, if at all, should a screen-reader react under such circumstances?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

I'll look at the page but my question before looking is whether the I agree button is there before you activate the button.  Whether it is or not, the thread brings up a screen-reader question.  Could NVDA be made to know when the screen changes in response to an action?  For example, now and then, something will come up or change on a web page when a user activates a button that the user doesn't expect or know about.  It wouldn't be a good idea to have screen-readers automatically read every change that occurs on screen.  But in specific instances, it would be important.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

There is an agree etc that opens up below the dl section. If you use your button nav you should be able to find it. After that, go back up to the dl section after excepting the license agreement.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 17:22, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Gene
 

I'll look at the page but my question before looking is whether the I agree button is there before you activate the button.  Whether it is or not, the thread brings up a screen-reader question.  Could NVDA be made to know when the screen changes in response to an action?  For example, now and then, something will come up or change on a web page when a user activates a button that the user doesn't expect or know about.  It wouldn't be a good idea to have screen-readers automatically read every change that occurs on screen.  But in specific instances, it would be important.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

There is an agree etc that opens up below the dl section. If you use your button nav you should be able to find it. After that, go back up to the dl section after excepting the license agreement.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 17:22, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

 

Post 3 explained how to do it, but I want to say it again for anybody who refuses to, or does not know how to, look at threads on the website. I'm not following this thread, so it's very possible I'm adding to a repeating chain as we speak, but anyway, here we go!

  1. After hitting enter on the download button, there is a pop out module, thing, that dims the screen a bit. For screen reader users, it has a giant heading that says terms and agreement.
  2. Once focus is on that heading, enter focus mode and then hit tab. Sure, you can do this without focus mode, but whatever.
  3. Hit enter on the link that says, agree and download.

I spent five minutes looking for a checkbox, a button, something other than a link.

If it helps, sighted people think the page is broken too. For sighties, I'm told, it appears in a very tiny square window at the bottom right of the screen.

I'm waiting on the beta. All the same, I'm extremely excited for the release of this new Edge. I can't wait to replace this Edge with the new stable Edge.


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Sarah k Alawami
 

There is an agree etc that opens up below the dl section. If you use your button nav you should be able to find it. After that, go back up to the dl section after excepting the license agreement.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 17:22, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

You wrote:
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.
After that, press H and you will land in a section about licensing terms...
With Tab you will move to a link named Accept and download ...

Rui Fontes

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.


Re: Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

 

This has been discussed at length on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users forum, and it's not just you and it's not just screen reader users.  That page is more than a bit of an accessibility nightmare even for those of us trying to simply point and click.

My response on the Win10 group, with a direct download link, because the page is "irregular" in more ways than one:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/35885 

Direct download link for Development MS-Edge, which brings up a save dialog immediately (and I just tested it and it's still working):  
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2084648&Channel=Dev&language=en-us&Consent=0&IID=0e01823b-e21a-5c47-9974-3e94850ff9d4 

All indications are that the issues with this page are not directly related to any screen reader, but due to irregular web coding.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Problem With Microsoft Insiders Page For Downloading and Testing The New Edge Browser

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

To reproduce this issue:
1.  Visit https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/
2.  Navigate to the Dev (development version) the best stable version.
3.  There is a button associated with the download of this browser for Windows 10.
4.  Try activating it.
5.  The result is that whether you press enter, space bar or route review to the button and left click, nothing happens.

I would be interested to see if anyone else experiences the same issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows10.1903 and NVDA’s saying Volume level?

David Moore
 

I love, as well,  to hear NVDA saying what the volume levels are!

Narrator does that as well.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Stephanie Smeader
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1903 and NVDA’s saying Volume level?

 

I like that when NVDA tells us what our volume levels are!

 

 

 


Re: Windows10.1903 and NVDA’s saying Volume level?

Stephanie Smeader
 

I like that when NVDA tells us what our volume levels are!


Re: Couple questions about portable version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

You have three levels of quality for almost all voices...

If you want to have always the Vocalizer voice, you just have to install the drivers and desired voices add-ons.
After that, in a machine with a installed version of NVDA and Vocalizer Expressive, you can activate a portable license of Vocalizer for the portable version of NVDA in the PEN...

Any question you can check the manual or send us a mail to tiflotecnia@tiflotecnia.com

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:10 de 27/06/2019, Luke escreveu:

Tiflotecnia

On Jun 27, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

Tiflotecnia


Re: SPL and NVDA

 

Hi all,

If this is what I think it is, then Dan isn’t alone in facing this situation: report object descriptions is off. Several people (including I, the current maintainer of this add-on) have talked about this in the past, and I even wrote an FAQ entry in the add-on guide about it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 12:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and NVDA

 

My general advice in situations like this is to "work backward" uninstalling and reinstalling things, doing the easiest thing first, and working back if that does not fix the issue.

In this case, it would be uninstalling and reinstalling the SPL add-on to see if that resolves the problem.

If not, you're faced with next starting NVDA with only that add-on enabled, to try to determine whether there could be some sort of interaction between it and one of your other add-ons.

If that doesn't fix it, next comes nuking NVDA itself (which, of course, nukes all of your add-ons, too), then reinstalling NVDA and the SPL Add-On only, to see if that works.  If it does, then keep installing the other add-ons you were using, one by one, checking after each to see if SPL is screwed up again.

Thorough diagnostics are tedious, so you hope that the first or second options above get you an answer before you have to resort to the last one.  Sometimes wiping the slate entirely clean and installing again will fix an issue and you'll never know what triggered it in the first place.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: Is there a podcast

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


there used to be a pod cast that NVACCESS used to do but was under nvda-project.org at the time before the name change.


I believe it stopped a few years back where some one gave a link. after that Joseph  had done a few of them based on the whats new section in the user manual on the beta releases before the stable.


Lately before the stable releases I have been doing short tutorials on some of the features and posting them to my website  under the nvda sections.


The main website is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

it is a combination of NVDA tutorials and blindness related material.


If you book mark any of the nvda pages in the tables will take you to the rest of them and the home key will take you to the main page.


So there is no podcast from the developers of NVACCESS at present.



the closest I would get to it would be copy and paste the whats new section in 2019.2 and either convert it into a synthetic voice then post to a page. But after time It would have to go as I only have 2 gig of room on my drop box account.



Gene nz


On 30/06/2019 5:53 AM, Irlanda Hernandez wrote:
Hi to you all!! Does nvda have a podcast? Thanks, and God bless



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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: SPL and NVDA

 

My general advice in situations like this is to "work backward" uninstalling and reinstalling things, doing the easiest thing first, and working back if that does not fix the issue.

In this case, it would be uninstalling and reinstalling the SPL add-on to see if that resolves the problem.

If not, you're faced with next starting NVDA with only that add-on enabled, to try to determine whether there could be some sort of interaction between it and one of your other add-ons.

If that doesn't fix it, next comes nuking NVDA itself (which, of course, nukes all of your add-ons, too), then reinstalling NVDA and the SPL Add-On only, to see if that works.  If it does, then keep installing the other add-ons you were using, one by one, checking after each to see if SPL is screwed up again.

Thorough diagnostics are tedious, so you hope that the first or second options above get you an answer before you have to resort to the last one.  Sometimes wiping the slate entirely clean and installing again will fix an issue and you'll never know what triggered it in the first place.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


SPL and NVDA

Dan Kerstetter
 

I have two Windows 10 machines with the latest Station Playlist, latest NVDA and SPL add-on.

 

On one machine, NVDA works just fine in the playlist window.  All is read as it should be.  On the other, however, when I scroll through items in a playlist, all I hear is unchecked or checked.  As far as I can tell my settings are the same on both machines.  Is there anything I can do to make the odd ball machine read correctly?

Thanks in advance.

 

Dan K

 


Re: NVDA crash.

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's still best to contact code factory and see if they will at least give it a look, if not, then I guess you tried, and that's all you can do.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 29 Jun 2019, at 12:19, Chantelle Buys wrote:

Hi.

Yes, I've used another voice.

Just thought to tell you guys about it. I mean, this doesn't happen
everyday right?

Chantelle

On 6/29/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

For anyone who wants to contact Code Factory about anything, a good starting
point is their Contact Us page ( https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/
).   I could find nothing support-specific or trouble-reporting specific,
but if they care at all (and I would presume they will) you'll get routed
wherever your message needs to land.

And since you can't use a screen reader without a synth, and there's an
issue between NVDA and a synth it should work with, this is definitely
related to using and configuring NVDA.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.*

~ H.L. Mencken



--
Never give up, at any cost.