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Re: Drag and Drop

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I just went into the section of the user guide that you referenced, and there was nothing to do with drag and drop as such.  There were commands for using the mouse.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Drag and Drop

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


See the section below in the user guide it will list all commands to do with the mouse including drag and drop.


5.7. Navigating with the Mouse



I did not copy in all the commands more to do with bandwidth with some people.


Gene nz


On 3/11/2020 9:09 am, Louise Pfau wrote:
Hi.  Is there a drag and drop feature for NVDA?  I couldn't find anything in the user guide.  JAWS uses CONTROL+JAWS+NUMPAD / to perform the function when you're focused on the item to be dragged, and then again when you're focused on the drop location.

Thanks,

Louise


Drag and Drop

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  Is there a drag and drop feature for NVDA?  I couldn't find anything in the user guide.  JAWS uses CONTROL+JAWS+NUMPAD / to perform the function when you're focused on the item to be dragged, and then again when you're focused on the drop location.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


After the clipboard feature was turned on and you had copied stuff to the clipboard then arrowed to the one to paste as you found also the space bar done the trick nicely .


using the enter key would at times just post v.


gene nz


On 3/11/2020 8:43 am, Chris Mullins wrote:

                Hi

                                I have been testing the Clipboard History feature of Windows 10 using NVDA and have achieved mixed results.  I can traverse the list of clipboard items with up/down arrows but the enter key,  has caused me problems. 

 

When located on a particular item in the clipboard items list, pressing enter pastes in the requisite item but causes focus issues in the test Notepad document I am using and when I use NVDA+t to identify which document I am in, NVDA gives audio feedback about braille tethering, so I think  there may be some compatibility issues here.  Repeated presses of NVDA+t seems to cycle around the Braille tethering options.  I do not have a Braille device connected to my machine.  Flipping focus between open apps eventually restores normality.

 

I could not get the tab key to open any menus asociated with the Clipboard History list, the only menu I could get was a context menu using the Applications key and this had many options, mostly unavailable, delete being one of them however, Pressing the delete key whilst a particular list item is in focus, will remove it from the list.

 

I could not determine a way to move between the document and the Clipboard History window to paste in several clipboard items, other than by using Windows+v each time, neither could I select more than one clipboard item at a time for pasting.

 

I found that the most reliable way of pasting items from the Clipboard History list into your target document is to highlight an item using the arrow keys, then press the spacebar to paste it.  Focus returns to your target document after these keystrokes.

 

I think there may be compatibility issues with the ClipSpeak add-on as well.  When pasting several items from the Clipboard History list, I found that ClipSpeak was only announcing every other  item as "Pasted text" but the strange thing was that the items that were not announced were pasted successfully and those announced, failed to paste into the target document.  After disabling Clipspeak, I was able to use the spacebar to paste items consistently.           

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 02 November 2020 01:42
tTo: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying toclipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.

-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.

 
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     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

 

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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

Hi,

As for keyboard command issue, this is caused by the fact that clipboard history will internally press Control+V, thereby causing the control key to get stuck.

As for moving between the document and clipboard history, it isn’t possible because clipboard history is really an overlay window, not a truly focusable control.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 11:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying toclipboard?

 

                Hi

                                I have been testing the Clipboard History feature of Windows 10 using NVDA and have achieved mixed results.  I can traverse the list of clipboard items with up/down arrows but the enter key,  has caused me problems. 

 

When located on a particular item in the clipboard items list, pressing enter pastes in the requisite item but causes focus issues in the test Notepad document I am using and when I use NVDA+t to identify which document I am in, NVDA gives audio feedback about braille tethering, so I think  there may be some compatibility issues here.  Repeated presses of NVDA+t seems to cycle around the Braille tethering options.  I do not have a Braille device connected to my machine.  Flipping focus between open apps eventually restores normality.

 

I could not get the tab key to open any menus asociated with the Clipboard History list, the only menu I could get was a context menu using the Applications key and this had many options, mostly unavailable, delete being one of them however, Pressing the delete key whilst a particular list item is in focus, will remove it from the list.

 

I could not determine a way to move between the document and the Clipboard History window to paste in several clipboard items, other than by using Windows+v each time, neither could I select more than one clipboard item at a time for pasting.

 

I found that the most reliable way of pasting items from the Clipboard History list into your target document is to highlight an item using the arrow keys, then press the spacebar to paste it.  Focus returns to your target document after these keystrokes.

 

I think there may be compatibility issues with the ClipSpeak add-on as well.  When pasting several items from the Clipboard History list, I found that ClipSpeak was only announcing every other  item as "Pasted text" but the strange thing was that the items that were not announced were pasted successfully and those announced, failed to paste into the target document.  After disabling Clipspeak, I was able to use the spacebar to paste items consistently.           

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 02 November 2020 01:42
tTo: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying toclipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.

-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.

 
--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

 


Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Chris Mullins
 

                Hi

                                I have been testing the Clipboard History feature of Windows 10 using NVDA and have achieved mixed results.  I can traverse the list of clipboard items with up/down arrows but the enter key,  has caused me problems. 

 

When located on a particular item in the clipboard items list, pressing enter pastes in the requisite item but causes focus issues in the test Notepad document I am using and when I use NVDA+t to identify which document I am in, NVDA gives audio feedback about braille tethering, so I think  there may be some compatibility issues here.  Repeated presses of NVDA+t seems to cycle around the Braille tethering options.  I do not have a Braille device connected to my machine.  Flipping focus between open apps eventually restores normality.

 

I could not get the tab key to open any menus asociated with the Clipboard History list, the only menu I could get was a context menu using the Applications key and this had many options, mostly unavailable, delete being one of them however, Pressing the delete key whilst a particular list item is in focus, will remove it from the list.

 

I could not determine a way to move between the document and the Clipboard History window to paste in several clipboard items, other than by using Windows+v each time, neither could I select more than one clipboard item at a time for pasting.

 

I found that the most reliable way of pasting items from the Clipboard History list into your target document is to highlight an item using the arrow keys, then press the spacebar to paste it.  Focus returns to your target document after these keystrokes.

 

I think there may be compatibility issues with the ClipSpeak add-on as well.  When pasting several items from the Clipboard History list, I found that ClipSpeak was only announcing every other  item as "Pasted text" but the strange thing was that the items that were not announced were pasted successfully and those announced, failed to paste into the target document.  After disabling Clipspeak, I was able to use the spacebar to paste items consistently.           

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 02 November 2020 01:42
tTo: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying toclipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.

-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.

 
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     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

 


Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 01:20 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Therefore a suggestion that can sound like, “please add clipboard append functionality to Windows 10 App Essentials add-on” is hereby denied (I’m speaking as the author of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on).
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And since such exists both under Windows 10 and an NVDA Add-On, there would be no earthly reason to do so, period.
 
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

Hi all,

To clarify, clipboard history in Windows 10 has nothing to do with Clip Contents Designer add-on. Therefore a suggestion that can sound like, “please add clipboard append functionality to Windows 10 App Essentials add-on” is hereby denied (I’m speaking as the author of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 06:19 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Maybe it is needed the Win10Apps add-on...

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I guess that's possible, but even when a screen reader isn't running the behavior I describe for using Clipboard History works using those same methods via the keyboard.

We need to be very careful, now that an NVDA Add-On has been thrown into the mix of the discussion, to keep Clipboard History, and how to use it, separate from Clip Contents Designer, and how to use it.  The two are not related, other than in at least some of their intended functions.

 
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 06:19 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Maybe it is needed the Win10Apps add-on...
-
I guess that's possible, but even when a screen reader isn't running the behavior I describe for using Clipboard History works using those same methods via the keyboard.

We need to be very careful, now that an NVDA Add-On has been thrown into the mix of the discussion, to keep Clipboard History, and how to use it, separate from Clip Contents Designer, and how to use it.  The two are not related, other than in at least some of their intended functions.

 
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Rui Fontes
 

Maybe it is needed the Win10Apps add-on...


Rui Fontes


Às 01:41 de 02/11/2020, Brian Vogel escreveu:

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.
-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.

 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Using Acrobat Reader DC with NVDA

Suhas Dharwad
 

Hi,
You can also press Ctrl+shift+five to bring up the reading  option menu,
once you open a doc.

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 7:31 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Some times if it does not come into focus use the alt/tab key then if
the option is there you should be good to go.


Gene nz


On 2/11/2020 12:45 pm, Kelly Sapergia wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having problems using Acrobat Reader DC (hereafter titled ARDC) with
> NVDA. It works great with JAWS, but when I have NVDA loaded and open a file
> in ARDC, I don't get the message asking how I want the document presented as
> far as accessibility goes. All I get is a frame, but no text. Do I need an
> addon to make it work better, or are there some settings I need to adjust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelly John Sapergia
> Show Host and Production Director
> The Global Voice Internet Radio
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>
> Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Using Acrobat Reader DC with NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Some times if it does not come into focus use the alt/tab key then if the option is there you should be good to go.


Gene nz

On 2/11/2020 12:45 pm, Kelly Sapergia wrote:
Hi,

I'm having problems using Acrobat Reader DC (hereafter titled ARDC) with
NVDA. It works great with JAWS, but when I have NVDA loaded and open a file
in ARDC, I don't get the message asking how I want the document presented as
far as accessibility goes. All I get is a frame, but no text. Do I need an
addon to make it work better, or are there some settings I need to adjust?

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Gene
 

I've been playing with the add-on and you can't redefine the commands defined in the help documentation. In other words, you have to use NVDA windows key c, for example. These keys should be redefinable. My laptop has only one Windows key, the left Windows key and it is very inconvenient using that command. I wanted to redefine it as only an NVDA key letter command but it isn't possible.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.


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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:49 PM, Rowen Cary wrote:
I really hope that NVDA itself has the ability to copy/append the last heard content
-
Not related to "plain vanilla" clipboard use.

That being said, there's been an add-on for this purpose that's been around for a very long time:  Speech History.
 
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Rowen Cary
 

I really hope that NVDA itself has the ability to copy/append the last heard content


Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:28 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
clipboard designer add-on
-
I know nothing about it except what's documented on the page where you download it.  It may or may not also be available via the NVDA Help, Running Add-Ons documentation option.  I don't use this add-on.
 
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Re: NVDA and mailbird email client

 

Not too sure about Mailbird. HOwever, EmClient works very well. They are open to hearing suggestions for making it more accessible.


https://emclient.com





On 11/1/2020 3:57 PM, Don H wrote:
Does the Email client mailbird work well with nvda?  Anyone on list using it?









Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 08:24 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
When I copy things to the clipboard and then press windows + V it says the first item in the clipboard history but I can't figure out how to access the list of the history.
-
Up/Down arrow moves you through the items on the clipboard.

Enter pastes the one you have focus on.

If you wish to remove an item from Clipboard History, when you have focus on it hit Tab, activate the menu, and choose the appropriate option.

 
--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Using Acrobat Reader DC with NVDA

Louis Maher
 

Hello Kelly,

A couple of thoughts.

First, if you do have the acrobat file open, you can hit alt + e for the edit menu, arrow down to accessibility menu, right arrow to open the menu, and arrow down to change reading options, hit enter, and you will be in the reading option dialog.

Secondly, I was having trouble with Acrobat and JAWS. So I opened acrobat without pointing to a specific file, hit alt + h for the help menu, arrow down to repair installation, hit enter, and followed the process, then rebooted the machine. That cleared up my issues.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Acrobat Reader DC with NVDA

Hi,

I'm having problems using Acrobat Reader DC (hereafter titled ARDC) with NVDA. It works great with JAWS, but when I have NVDA loaded and open a file in ARDC, I don't get the message asking how I want the document presented as far as accessibility goes. All I get is a frame, but no text. Do I need an addon to make it work better, or are there some settings I need to adjust?

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Dan Beaver
 

I also installed the clipboard designer add-on and turned it on but now I can't get it to do anything.  It is almost as if it isn't being recognized.  I downloaded the most recent add-on version.  I am running the most recent version of NVDA also.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 11/1/2020 5:59 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Cearbhall and Dan,

         And I lied, kinda.  I had forgotten that there is also an NVDA add-on that deals with "collecting to the clipboard."  See: Clip Contents Designer

         I tend to be a copy-paste-copy-paste operator, but on those rare occasions that I want to do copy-copy-copy, paste-paste-paste, I use Clipboard History these days.
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