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Re: how to build add-ons for NVDA

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Brian,


Thanks for letting me know.  I haven't looked yet at the school's platform for learning yet.  I'll be attending the University of Minnesota so I'll need to go see what they use and figure it out.  That is a good idea though.

On 8/8/2019 5:00 AM, Andy B. wrote:

The last I knew, you had to obtain an API key from Blackboard to use their APIs. I checked into this a few years ago because a professor wanted me to do something similar. Blackboard’s response was that I needed to have administrator privileges to the Blackboard install assigned to my school. Since I couldn’t get that, nothing resulted because I was only listed in Blackboard as a student. You can download your assignments, but not grades. The best I can say is to keep a spreadsheet of your grades.

 

 

 

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From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 6:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to build add-ons for NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

At this point it would be my own add-on till I get it doing whaat I want.  I could build a web browser extension to so it could go either way I suppose.  The problem is it makes things easier in this case it's not an accessibility issue at all.  I'd like it to be able to download my assignments by authentification, my grades and maybe a few other things.

 

 

On 8/7/2019 6:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Scott and others,

In regards to a guide on writing NVDA add-ons, yes there is one.

However, before we go any further, think carefully if your proposal is unique to NVDA. If it is an app that can be made accessible yet the developer is unwilling to take action, then it should be an add-on. If it is a feature that can be done through web browser extensions, then no, it should not be an NVDA add-on unless we get a really good justification or two.

The reason I ask you to think carefully about this is because the add-ons community has received proposals similar to yours in the past. After discussing with the community, some did become add-ons, while others became something else, the biggest criteria being if a proposal is something that is unique to NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to build add-ons for NVDA

 

Hi Brian,

 

      Yes I have programmed before.  I am not a python programmer but should be able to pick that up.  Is there a nvda gettingstarting guide for the actual add-on process?

 

On 8/7/2019 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Scott,

            Do you have any background in programming in any language?   NVDA and its add-ons are written in Python, but a programmer can pick up on new programming languages reasonably easily.   Python is not impossible to learn by any means, but learning to program is not a trivial task and requires significant commitment to see it through.

            It also sounds like you're describing something that would interface with Blackboard, Moodle, or similar.   If so, those are entirely accessible via normal web browsing methods.

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19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello guys, I have just installed 19.03 windows 10 update and it automatically launches NVDA after I log in. I have unchecked the relevant option in the NVDA welcome dialogue box, but NVDA is still launching automatically. Can anyone help? 

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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi Rui.

Cancel my last, I have found the information. I must've skipped passed it by accident.

Very best wishes,

Mo.

On 08/08/2019 15:28, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

For that, you have to use an add-on named NVDA NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin, found on:
https://github.com/paulber19/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin

Direct download: https://github.com/paulber007/AllMyNVDAAddons/raw/75b67164fccf9260759717a8267850daf677e488/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin/dev/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin-8.1-dev35.nvda-addon

Rui Fontes



Às 13:53 de 08/08/2019, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?

Very best wishes,

Mo.






Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi Rui.

You're a jenius, many thanks for the suggestion! it is working very well apart from not announcing certain modifiers like Alt Tab. Who is the author of the add-on?

Very best wishes,

Mo.

On 08/08/2019 15:28, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

For that, you have to use an add-on named NVDA NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin, found on:
https://github.com/paulber19/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin

Direct download: https://github.com/paulber007/AllMyNVDAAddons/raw/75b67164fccf9260759717a8267850daf677e488/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin/dev/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin-8.1-dev35.nvda-addon

Rui Fontes



Às 13:53 de 08/08/2019, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?

Very best wishes,

Mo.






Re: Mathematics in Microsoft Word

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 05:34:54 -0700
"Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:

The ability for NVDA to natively support reading and interacting with equations created with Microsoft Equation Editor would be great, as this would eliminate the need for, let's say, teachers to create a specialized version of math materials that uses Latex/MathType equations just for someone who relies on NVDA.

While I generally agree that having better accessibility of Equation
editor would be nice the biggest issue here is the problem of Braille.
With both MathType and LaTeX the solutions are already there in the
former case MathPlayer has Braille tables for many languages and in the
latter LaTeX_access is a solution. Expecting Braille tables for math
symbols included in LibLouis for every language is simply not realistic.
I'd like also to point out that you can convert materials from Equation
Editor to LaTeX and I believe to MathType, so usually there is no
additional preparation of material required.


Re: CodeFactory vocalizer licenses

Gene
 

That is highly unlikely.  I haven't heard, as I recall, one complaint about using SAPI 5 voices with JAWS on the lists I am on and I've been on them for a long time. 
 
I also suspect that the free more human sounding voices you can download from the JAWS site, whose name I don't remember are SAPI 5.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CodeFactory vocalizer licenses

Maybe jaws does not have good sapi5 support? Both NVDA and Jim Kitchen's games from the audio games archive work fine and the voices do not crash at all. Maybe the sapi5 interface for jaws has bugs that make it crash? 


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Is there anything I can do to get NVDA to announce the track title as the songs change?

 

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Re: CodeFactory vocalizer licenses

Josh Kennedy
 

Maybe jaws does not have good sapi5 support? Both NVDA and Jim Kitchen's games from the audio games archive work fine and the voices do not crash at all. Maybe the sapi5 interface for jaws has bugs that make it crash? 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 and CodeFactory eloquence vocalizer addon?

Josh Kennedy
 

I have not used the dictionary yet, so I don't know where the dictionary file is found in order to import it into other codeFactory products. 


Changing Braille symbols

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Hi everyone,


I'm using only Braille with NVDA, can't hear the speech synthesizer in a meaningful way.  The braille tables are handled by liblouis but I always find myself changing some symbols: the one for tab which I always replace (but not to replace it with spaces, I'm coding in Python and need to see the difference).  I'm using the French braille tables and both 8 and 6 dot definition imports a common braille table in which some symbols are defined. These definitions don't make sense for computer 8, so I tend to change some of them, particularly symbols that are defined on multiple cells.


To my dismay, I realized manually editing the .cti file didn't work anymore in NVDA.  Whether that's purposeful or not, I do not know, NVDA refuses to start (or at least, the Braille refuses to start) if I modify the file, even if my modifications are correct.  If there's an error in the log, I cannot tell.  So I had to install NVDA again to get rid of the issue... and lose my modifications in the Braille tables.  Is there any "recommended" way to do what I want to do?  Relying as heavily on Braille symbols, I would really like to have control over them.


Thanks!


Vincent


Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Turn off keyboard echo alltogehter. I do this as I don't use it personally. There is also an option under speach somewhare to stop that.

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On 8 Aug 2019, at 5:53, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hello Everyone.

I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

For that, you have to use an add-on named NVDA NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin, found on:
https://github.com/paulber19/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin

Direct download: https://github.com/paulber007/AllMyNVDAAddons/raw/75b67164fccf9260759717a8267850daf677e488/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin/dev/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin-8.1-dev35.nvda-addon

Rui Fontes



Às 13:53 de 08/08/2019, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hello Everyone.
I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?
Very best wishes,
Mo.


Re: 2019.2 rc2 continues to double reading treeview itens in eclipse

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi Quentin!
I reported this problem when I tested betas of 2019.2. 
I am using spring tool 4. I don”t know what’ eclipse version it is based in
I suspect this problem returns with recent windows updatees becousr even 2018.4 shows the same problem  
It was resolved at the time the issue was closed. 
Now it is back again. 

Em 8 de ago de 2019, à(s) 08:11, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> escreveu:

Hi Alexandre,

Just since you said "continues", have you reported this before?  I had a look on our issue tracker, and found one issue which looks quite similar (treeviews, but with checkboxes read twice), closed (fixed) back in 2015.

Did it start with a particular version of NVDA?

Also, which version of Eclipse are you using?  It looks like the newest is 2019-06.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:41 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Hi friends.

When navigating treeviews in eclipse, nvda is Reading the item that is losing the focus and the iten that gain the focus.

This is a very anoying problem for those who work with eclipse because it slows down very much the navigation and this ide uses treeviews extensively.

 

 

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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Gene
 

I just tried an experiment.  I made a speech dictionary entry for down arrow, writeen in just that way down space arrow and in the pronunciation field, I placed a space.  it worked.  You will have to make dictionary entries for any keys you don't want spoken.  But I don't think you should make one for tab.  there are times when tab is spoken in multipage dialogs such as general, advanced, etc.
 
You will have to make many entries, for example control home, control end, right arrow left arrow, whatever you don't want spoken.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Hello Everyone.

I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He
would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but
not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of
forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?

Very best wishes,

Mo.





How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hello Everyone.

I have a user who is trying to make the transition from jaws to NVDA. He would like NVDA to read keys like tab, shift tab, enter, alt F4 etc but not the down arrow, up arrow, left/right arrows etc. Is there any way of forcing NVDA not to read certain modifier keys?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


Re: Mathematics in Microsoft Word

 

The ability for NVDA to natively support reading and interacting with equations created with Microsoft Equation Editor would be great, as this would eliminate the need for, let's say, teachers to create a specialized version of math materials that uses Latex/MathType equations just for someone who relies on NVDA.


Re: 2019.2 rc2 continues to double reading treeview itens in eclipse

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Alexandre,

Just since you said "continues", have you reported this before?  I had a look on our issue tracker, and found one issue which looks quite similar (treeviews, but with checkboxes read twice), closed (fixed) back in 2015.

Did it start with a particular version of NVDA?

Also, which version of Eclipse are you using?  It looks like the newest is 2019-06.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:41 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Hi friends.

When navigating treeviews in eclipse, nvda is Reading the item that is losing the focus and the iten that gain the focus.

This is a very anoying problem for those who work with eclipse because it slows down very much the navigation and this ide uses treeviews extensively.

 

 

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Re: how to build add-ons for NVDA

Andy B.
 

The last I knew, you had to obtain an API key from Blackboard to use their APIs. I checked into this a few years ago because a professor wanted me to do something similar. Blackboard’s response was that I needed to have administrator privileges to the Blackboard install assigned to my school. Since I couldn’t get that, nothing resulted because I was only listed in Blackboard as a student. You can download your assignments, but not grades. The best I can say is to keep a spreadsheet of your grades.

 

 

 

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From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 6:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to build add-ons for NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

At this point it would be my own add-on till I get it doing whaat I want.  I could build a web browser extension to so it could go either way I suppose.  The problem is it makes things easier in this case it's not an accessibility issue at all.  I'd like it to be able to download my assignments by authentification, my grades and maybe a few other things.

 

 

On 8/7/2019 6:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Scott and others,

In regards to a guide on writing NVDA add-ons, yes there is one.

However, before we go any further, think carefully if your proposal is unique to NVDA. If it is an app that can be made accessible yet the developer is unwilling to take action, then it should be an add-on. If it is a feature that can be done through web browser extensions, then no, it should not be an NVDA add-on unless we get a really good justification or two.

The reason I ask you to think carefully about this is because the add-ons community has received proposals similar to yours in the past. After discussing with the community, some did become add-ons, while others became something else, the biggest criteria being if a proposal is something that is unique to NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to build add-ons for NVDA

 

Hi Brian,

 

      Yes I have programmed before.  I am not a python programmer but should be able to pick that up.  Is there a nvda gettingstarting guide for the actual add-on process?

 

On 8/7/2019 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Scott,

            Do you have any background in programming in any language?   NVDA and its add-ons are written in Python, but a programmer can pick up on new programming languages reasonably easily.   Python is not impossible to learn by any means, but learning to program is not a trivial task and requires significant commitment to see it through.

            It also sounds like you're describing something that would interface with Blackboard, Moodle, or similar.   If so, those are entirely accessible via normal web browsing methods.

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2019.2 rc2 continues to double reading treeview itens in eclipse

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi friends.

When navigating treeviews in eclipse, nvda is Reading the item that is losing the focus and the iten that gain the focus.

This is a very anoying problem for those who work with eclipse because it slows down very much the navigation and this ide uses treeviews extensively.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: how to build add-ons for NVDA

Scott Berry <sb356607@...>
 

Hi Joseph,


At this point it would be my own add-on till I get it doing whaat I want.  I could build a web browser extension to so it could go either way I suppose.  The problem is it makes things easier in this case it's not an accessibility issue at all.  I'd like it to be able to download my assignments by authentification, my grades and maybe a few other things.



On 8/7/2019 6:46 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Scott and others,

In regards to a guide on writing NVDA add-ons, yes there is one.

However, before we go any further, think carefully if your proposal is unique to NVDA. If it is an app that can be made accessible yet the developer is unwilling to take action, then it should be an add-on. If it is a feature that can be done through web browser extensions, then no, it should not be an NVDA add-on unless we get a really good justification or two.

The reason I ask you to think carefully about this is because the add-ons community has received proposals similar to yours in the past. After discussing with the community, some did become add-ons, while others became something else, the biggest criteria being if a proposal is something that is unique to NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to build add-ons for NVDA

 

Hi Brian,

 

      Yes I have programmed before.  I am not a python programmer but should be able to pick that up.  Is there a nvda gettingstarting guide for the actual add-on process?

 

On 8/7/2019 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Scott,

            Do you have any background in programming in any language?   NVDA and its add-ons are written in Python, but a programmer can pick up on new programming languages reasonably easily.   Python is not impossible to learn by any means, but learning to program is not a trivial task and requires significant commitment to see it through.

            It also sounds like you're describing something that would interface with Blackboard, Moodle, or similar.   If so, those are entirely accessible via normal web browsing methods.

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