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Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Mohamed
 

Apologies, I misread the post, I thought the registry hack to get POS ready updates wasn't stated in the original message for some reason, but yes, those updates have or will be dropped this year.

On 3/11/2019 12:56 PM, Mohamed Al-Hajamy wrote:
Actually I think that registry hack gave you updates for Windows Embedded POS Ready, a version of XP that is primarily used in ATMs and the like, which is I think still being supported but will itself lose support this year if it hasn't already, not the updates governments are paying for.

On 3/11/2019 8:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes Our nhs and the folk who used into in ATMs paid for updates, and there was a registry hack to pretend to be one of the latter at the time and freeload off the back of that.
I doubt they will be falling into that trap this time. As I say, I have no beef with windows 10, I do have the beef about the way you are forced to update it completely every six months with variable results on your installed software and accessibility with nvda. As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&;rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

On 11/03/2019 09:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff, and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6 months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort for  those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win 7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte
















Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse


Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Mohamed
 

Actually I think that registry hack gave you updates for Windows Embedded POS Ready, a version of XP that is primarily used in ATMs and the like, which is I think still being supported but will itself lose support this year if it hasn't already, not the updates governments are paying for.

On 3/11/2019 8:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes Our nhs and the folk who used into in  ATMs paid for updates, and there was a registry hack to pretend to be one of the latter at the time and freeload off the back of that.
I doubt they will be falling into that trap this time. As I say, I have no beef with windows 10, I do have the beef about the way you are forced to update it completely every six months with variable results on your installed software and accessibility with nvda. As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&;rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

On 11/03/2019 09:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff, and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6 months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort for  those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win 7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte
















locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse


Re: using win 7 after january 2020

 

Hi,

Don't worry, I'm still in vacation. I just happen to come across a note taped to the lab door asking for clarifications about a few things.

Answers:

  • Windows 7 and NVDA: I cannot pronounce things for NV access people, but I expect Windows 7 support from NVDA will continue for a while past January 2020.
  • Windows 7 support past 2020: before anyone can jump in, I must announce that the article Adrian linked to is not entirely accurate as the poster implies. Although it does spell out the fact that some people will be eligible for paid support past January 2020, it is only meant for businesses, and cost will rise over time. As far as consumers are concerned, end of support is January 2020 and no extensions unless Microsoft says something within the next few months.
  • Add-on Updater: Brian V is right - I've been updating the add-on to add more add-ons to update check eligibility list, along with planning to drop support for old NVDA releases. I think it'd be best to discuss that add-on in a separate topic.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: as much as keeping up with NVDA is important, it is also important to keep in touch with what's happening with Windows 10. Hence, recent releases of this add-on have been about both aspects: keeping up with NVDA development, and catching and dealing with bugs found in recent preview builds for Windows 10 Version 1903 (April 2019 Update). Suffice to say that some of the most important workarounds that were part of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on are now part of NVDA itself. And no, as I wrote a few days ago, I won't ask you all to update to NVDA 2019.1 in order to use this add-on for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse


Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse


Re: o t, dvd wripper

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks brian

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
and also it is using NVDA to do it
Thanks for your clarification not only about specific need, but about using NVDA with said ripper software.

We get lots of questions about software recommendations in general that there's not a single question about how to use them with NVDA (even though I presume that's how they're being used).  Sometimes it's just obvious how to use them with a screen reader and sometimes it's not.  Also, sometimes conversations are intended to focus on deep discussion of the feature set of a given piece of software, and all its keyboard shortcuts and the like.   When it's pretty much strictly in that vein, it's really not NVDA related, either.

I doubt that there will ever be a case where there is 100% purity with regard to "is NVDA involved," but those framing their questions know whether the thrust of what they want to discuss relates to using NVDA with a given piece of software or just about the other software itself.  One could, for instance, have a weeks-long conversation regarding using Microsoft Office without ever once mentioning a screen reader command (though the occasional mention is almost certain to occur).

Good luck in finding a solution that "plays well" with NVDA.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
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From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes









Re: o t, dvd wripper

 

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
and also it is using NVDA to do it
Thanks for your clarification not only about specific need, but about using NVDA with said ripper software.

We get lots of questions about software recommendations in general that there's not a single question about how to use them with NVDA (even though I presume that's how they're being used).  Sometimes it's just obvious how to use them with a screen reader and sometimes it's not.  Also, sometimes conversations are intended to focus on deep discussion of the feature set of a given piece of software, and all its keyboard shortcuts and the like.   When it's pretty much strictly in that vein, it's really not NVDA related, either.

I doubt that there will ever be a case where there is 100% purity with regard to "is NVDA involved," but those framing their questions know whether the thrust of what they want to discuss relates to using NVDA with a given piece of software or just about the other software itself.  One could, for instance, have a weeks-long conversation regarding using Microsoft Office without ever once mentioning a screen reader command (though the occasional mention is almost certain to occur).

Good luck in finding a solution that "plays well" with NVDA.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: using win 7 after january 2020

 

It baffles me why nobody has shared the official blog post, but here it is, from Microsoft.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4057281/windows-7-support-will-end-on-january-14-2020


Re: o t, dvd wripper

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks dan
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

Yes, but maybe someone else on here can tell you about them.  I am not up to date on them.


Dan

On 3/11/2019 10:19 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

thanks dan, but is there any free software?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

Hi,


I use a program called freemakeVC.  I bought the upgrade version because it works faster  and some of the features seem to be more accessible.  This program takes some playing with to get used to the parts that are not quite accessible but once you learn it it is easy to use. 


I use it for DVD ripping and burning.  I also use it to convert audio files to other formats.


Dan Beaver

On 3/11/2019 10:04 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi friends
 
do you all no of a program to wripp dvd's ?
 
 
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Re: o t, dvd wripper

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi
 
If, by rip, you mean transferring to computer storage for later viewing, that's something else entirely.  Ripping generally refers to doing this, but it's unclear here.
 
i mean above and also it is using NVDA to do it
 
thanks for clarifying
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

If, by rip, you mean copy, then I don't know of any.   Copy protections on DVDs is significantly tighter than on CDs, for example, which have been easily duplicated for years.

If, by rip, you mean transferring to computer storage for later viewing, that's something else entirely.  Ripping generally refers to doing this, but it's unclear here.

Also, even though I'm responding, I'm going to start making a point of the fact that topics such as this one, which have nothing to do with NVDA either directly or indirectly, should be started on the chat subgroup, not here.  As there is not, as yet, a move function I'm allowing these to stay, for the moment, but in the coming weeks will be locking them and asking that people initiate any topic where the answer to the question, "Is this about using NVDA to accomplish some task or about configuring NVDA?," is, "No," in the chat subgroup.

We have the privilege of a community arrangement where anyone in the community can ask about anything "not NVDA" or discuss pretty much anything in a dedicated venue where other community members can choose to join if they wish.   The main group needs to come back to a much tighter NVDA focus, and will.

For those who have not yet subscribed to the chat subgroup here, again, are the addresses for that subgroup:
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: o t, dvd wripper

 

If, by rip, you mean copy, then I don't know of any.   Copy protections on DVDs is significantly tighter than on CDs, for example, which have been easily duplicated for years.

If, by rip, you mean transferring to computer storage for later viewing, that's something else entirely.  Ripping generally refers to doing this, but it's unclear here.

Also, even though I'm responding, I'm going to start making a point of the fact that topics such as this one, which have nothing to do with NVDA either directly or indirectly, should be started on the chat subgroup, not here.  As there is not, as yet, a move function I'm allowing these to stay, for the moment, but in the coming weeks will be locking them and asking that people initiate any topic where the answer to the question, "Is this about using NVDA to accomplish some task or about configuring NVDA?," is, "No," in the chat subgroup.

We have the privilege of a community arrangement where anyone in the community can ask about anything "not NVDA" or discuss pretty much anything in a dedicated venue where other community members can choose to join if they wish.   The main group needs to come back to a much tighter NVDA focus, and will.

For those who have not yet subscribed to the chat subgroup here, again, are the addresses for that subgroup:
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: o t, dvd wripper

Dan Beaver
 

Yes, but maybe someone else on here can tell you about them.  I am not up to date on them.


Dan

On 3/11/2019 10:19 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

thanks dan, but is there any free software?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

Hi,


I use a program called freemakeVC.  I bought the upgrade version because it works faster  and some of the features seem to be more accessible.  This program takes some playing with to get used to the parts that are not quite accessible but once you learn it it is easy to use. 


I use it for DVD ripping and burning.  I also use it to convert audio files to other formats.


Dan Beaver

On 3/11/2019 10:04 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi friends
 
do you all no of a program to wripp dvd's ?
 
 
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Re: Zoomtext and nvda

 

One thing I'll point out here, and it's related to magnification in general, is that it has its limits and they get hit relatively quickly.

For anyone who's had sight and used same for reading, we do not read letter by letter or even word by word, processing tends to take place in multi-word chunks at a time and we also possess a lot of predictive ability (and that applies regardless of reading modality) based on context.

I have had clients for whom magnification on a standard (and by standard I even mean large, but that would be used as a typical monitor) monitor needed to be boosted so much that by the time they could use the magnified version it robbed them of the needed linguistic context.

In this age of very large screen TVs, coupled with either HDMI output from the computer itself or casting ability (though the latter is more of a pain), it is well worth considering whether using a large screen TV as a monitor is the better way to go.  The can be positioned such that they're where a monitor would be, if that proves to be preferable in the first place, and everything ends up magnified by default, preserving context.  Even if you have to magnify some, a tiny bit of magnification for "the normal monitor" translates into quite a bit more when it's displayed on a big-screen TV.  I learned all of this when I had to get creative with a client who had macular degeneration but who still wasn't ready to give up reading with her residual vision, and for whom no amount of magnification on "the small screen" produced a result that would allow that.  We ended up putting her big screen TV on an articulating wall mount, which allowed her to pull it away from the wall and down when she needed to use it as a monitor.

Also a cheap UHD TV, which would be more than adequate for purpose, is far cheaper than most things in the world of accessibility are.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: o t, dvd wripper

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks dan, but is there any free software?
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] o t, dvd wripper

Hi,


I use a program called freemakeVC.  I bought the upgrade version because it works faster  and some of the features seem to be more accessible.  This program takes some playing with to get used to the parts that are not quite accessible but once you learn it it is easy to use. 


I use it for DVD ripping and burning.  I also use it to convert audio files to other formats.


Dan Beaver

On 3/11/2019 10:04 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi friends
 
do you all no of a program to wripp dvd's ?
 
 
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Re: using win 7 after january 2020

 

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 08:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Joseph can (and will) certainly jump in on this himself, but what I've observed suggests that these updates were far less about Windows 10, per se, than staging for future NVDA development.   The last update was at the end of last September and is noted for NVDA 2018.3 to 2019.1.

Add-On Updater seems to be in constant spin as other add-ons "jump on the bandwagon" that allow it to work with it, and that's separate from Windows 10, per se, too.

I'm sure I'll be corrected, and accept it, if I'm wrong.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: o t, dvd wripper

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I use a program called freemakeVC.  I bought the upgrade version because it works faster  and some of the features seem to be more accessible.  This program takes some playing with to get used to the parts that are not quite accessible but once you learn it it is easy to use. 


I use it for DVD ripping and burning.  I also use it to convert audio files to other formats.


Dan Beaver

On 3/11/2019 10:04 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi friends
 
do you all no of a program to wripp dvd's ?
 
 
-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


o t, dvd wripper

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi friends
 
do you all no of a program to wripp dvd's ?