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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 21 May 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Someone told me that it's possible to copy a text exactly as it's spoken (with headers, lists and such) using JAWS.
Is it possible to copy this way with NVDA as well?
Yes, if I understand what you're describing. Try the following:

1. Open a web page or whatever you want to copy text from.
2. Press NVDA+n, t, to open the tools menu.
3. Press s, to open the speech viewer.
4. Alt+tab back to your webpage, and read anything you want.
5. When you're done, press alt+tab to return to the speech viewer.
6. The speech viewer has a checkbox (ignore it), and a read-only edit field. You may have to tab or move down to get into the edit field. Get into it, and you can arrow through the text that was spoken since you opened the speech viewer.
7. If you want to just copy it all to notepad or whatever, press control+a, control+c, and alt+F4 to close the speech viewer. Then open notepad or whatever, and press control+v to paste the speech history into it.

Hope this helps.

Luke


Re: Selecting a block of text.

Luke Davis
 

Hi Ali

You wrote:

I tried restarting without addons and it didn't work. Could you tell
That is probably because you most likely have NVDA exit options turned off.

So, a way to restart without addons without having to change any of your settings, is to do this:

Press your windows key and the letter r.

In the window that appears, type the following:

nvda -r --disable-addons

Then press enter. Make sure you get the dashes in the right places.

That should restart nvda with all addons disabled temporarily (until you start it again).

Hth.

Luke


Re: Selecting a block of text.

 

i tested with nvaccess and it worked for me.
i dont remember exact book or exact web page that i can reproduce the
issue forever and introduce it to you.
but i remember, i observed this issue mainly in Islamic books which i
download from:
www.al-islam.org

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
With Zahra's example,

If you press H to jump to a heading, press NVDA+F9 to start marking, then
press H to jump to the next heading and NVDA+F10 twice to copy, it will
copy the first heading, and everything up to the second heading, plus the
first letter of the second heading. The extra character at the end is
because when selecting text in say Word, you select up to the character
past the last one you want - in a read only text field, you often cannot
move past the last character, so it selects that extra character.

I just tried that on a couple of pages in Firefox and it seemed to work.
Zahra, are there particular pages where it doesn't work, or if you try on
the NV Access page for instance, will it work one time, but not the next
(and does it give an error?)

Ali,

You can find the NVDA logs in the %temp% folder. Press WINDOWS+R, type
%temp% and press ENTER then look for either nvda.log (the log for the
current session of NVDA) or nvda-old.log (the log for the previous time
NVDA was run.

You can email me off-list at info@nvaccess.org (since you can't attach
files to a message to the list).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:07 AM Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Quentin,
I tried restarting without addons and it didn't work. Could you tell
me how to find and send the logs. That I think is the best solution.

Thanks a lot for your help.
Ali

On 5/21/19, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi quentin.
its the issue that i can confirm too!
i thought that maybe there is some problem in my windows, but now, i
am happy that someone confirmed my issue, and wished that you present
us a working solution.
i only tested with firefox and nvda selection sometimes works,
sometimes
not.
for example: i press f9 when i am in a particular heading.
then i press f10 for going to the next heading, i wish to select
entire content of previous heading, and its the reason that when i go
to next heading, press f10 to all content of previous heading to be
selected, that sometimes i observe the mentioned issue and sometimes
not!
i dont use addons, so, certainly its not related to addons.

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Ali,

Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current
behaviour
of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the
block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the
block
or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it. If you use the
review
cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may
not
work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the
conventional text cursor. If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports
"Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy
by
pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.

It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to
ensure
there are no add-ons playing up. Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
"Restart
with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.

Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with
NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug
and
enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email
to
me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,
For a while now, I have been having problems with the select a block
of text function on nvda.
When I place the start marker by pressing nvda f9 everything is fine,
the start marker is announced. When I go to the end of the block to
press nvda f10, the curser winds back to the beginning and only
selects and places in the clipboard the first letter of the section.
I
have tried this on various browsers and the same result each time and
with different types of content. I have been having this problem for
a
while now and am currently using 2019.1.1. I was hoping that
installing the clip contents designer would solve the problem, but
something similar seems to happen.


help would be appreciated.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: NVDA versus JAWS

Quentin Christensen
 

The NV Access shop lists only in Australian dollars.  If purchasing from overseas, PayPal will automatically convert to your local currency.  You can either use a PayPal account, or enter credit card details without logging in to a PayPal account.

According to Google just now,

$30 AUD (the cost of one of the modules in electronic format) converts to roughly 1,440 Indian Rupee.
$250 AUD (the cost of the NVDA Productivity bundle) converts to roughly 11,946 Indian Rupee.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:
i want to purchase microsoft office tutorial from nv access but unable
to do since it does not have payment method using indian currency.
kindly help

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Hi Áine,
>
> I would argue that NVDA can do everything our competitors can do, including
> OCR (on Windows 10, press NVDA+r then use the regular reading keys),
> however, I'll leave it to others to argue the pros and cons.
>
> One thing I would suggest, in order to become most efficient with using
> NVDA, you might consider purchasing our training material.  Basic Training
> with NVDA is the first module I would recommend.  Despite the name, it
> actually covers everything from reading the time, up through complex tasks
> like using the review cursor, object navigation and creating configuration
> profiles.  We also have modules on using Word, Excel and Outlook with
> NVDA.  You can purchase these individually, or in our NVDA Productivity
> Bundle which also includes telephone support.
>
> All of those are available from the NV Access shop:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM Aine Kelly Costello <ainekc@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> New here and my apologies if this topic has been well-covered before but
>> I’ve not found an efficient ways to search group archives yet!
>>
>> I’m switching back to Windows after using a Mac for a couple of years, as
>> I’ll be studying investigative journalism and am fairly sure I’ll find
>> any
>> software we need to use etc. to work better on Windows than Mac (still
>> getting info on that).
>>
>> I’m moving overseas, where I probably won’t have access to funding for
>> technology, etc., as an international student. So I’m trying to work out
>> now whether to exclusively use NVDA or try and purchase a JAWS SMA while
>> I’m still living in New Zealand.
>>
>> My question is: can you tell me about anything that springs to mind that
>> NVDA does particularly poorly that JAWS does well? In the domains of MS
>> Word, excel and web browsing, in particular.
>>
>> I imagine JAWS is well-ahead of NVDA in OCRing by now, for instance, but
>> perhaps there’s enough free software around to do this efficiently now
>> that
>> that’s not a big deal any more … thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks very much in advance,
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Áine
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>


--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....
aravind.rajendran@....





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Selecting a block of text.

Quentin Christensen
 

With Zahra's example,

If you press H to jump to a heading, press NVDA+F9 to start marking, then press H to jump to the next heading and NVDA+F10 twice to copy, it will copy the first heading, and everything up to the second heading, plus the first letter of the second heading.  The extra character at the end is because when selecting text in say Word, you select up to the character past the last one you want - in a read only text field, you often cannot move past the last character, so it selects that extra character.

I just tried that on a couple of pages in Firefox and it seemed to work.  Zahra, are there particular pages where it doesn't work, or if you try on the NV Access page for instance, will it work one time, but not the next (and does it give an error?)

Ali,

You can find the NVDA logs in the %temp% folder.  Press WINDOWS+R, type %temp% and press ENTER then look for either nvda.log (the log for the current session of NVDA) or nvda-old.log (the log for the previous time NVDA was run.

You can email me off-list at info@... (since you can't attach files to a message to the list).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:07 AM Ali Colak <alish54@...> wrote:
Hello Quentin,
  I tried restarting without addons and it didn't work. Could you tell
me how to find and send the logs. That I think is the best solution.

Thanks a lot for your help.
Ali

On 5/21/19, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
> hi quentin.
> its the issue that i can confirm too!
> i thought that maybe there is some problem in my windows, but now, i
> am happy that someone confirmed my issue, and wished that you present
> us a working solution.
> i only tested with firefox and nvda selection sometimes works, sometimes
> not.
> for example: i press f9 when i am in a particular heading.
> then i press f10 for going to the next heading, i wish to select
> entire content of previous heading, and its the reason that when i go
> to next heading, press f10 to all content of previous heading to be
> selected, that sometimes i observe the mentioned issue and sometimes
> not!
> i dont use addons, so, certainly its not related to addons.
>
> On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> Hi Ali,
>>
>> Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current behaviour
>> of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the
>> block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the block
>> or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it.  If you use the review
>> cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may
>> not
>> work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the
>> conventional text cursor.  If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports
>> "Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy by
>> pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.
>>
>> It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to ensure
>> there are no add-ons playing up.  Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
>> "Restart
>> with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.
>>
>> Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with
>> NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug and
>> enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email to
>> me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> For a while now, I have been having problems with the select a block
>>> of text function on nvda.
>>> When I place the start marker by pressing nvda f9 everything is fine,
>>> the start marker is announced. When I go to the end of the block to
>>> press nvda f10, the curser winds back to the beginning and only
>>> selects and places in the clipboard the first letter of the section. I
>>> have tried this on various browsers and the same result each time and
>>> with different types of content. I have been having this problem for a
>>> while now and am currently using 2019.1.1. I was hoping that
>>> installing the clip contents designer would solve the problem, but
>>> something similar seems to happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


locked Re: NVDA versus JAWS

Aravind R
 

i want to purchase microsoft office tutorial from nv access but unable
to do since it does not have payment method using indian currency.
kindly help

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Áine,

I would argue that NVDA can do everything our competitors can do, including
OCR (on Windows 10, press NVDA+r then use the regular reading keys),
however, I'll leave it to others to argue the pros and cons.

One thing I would suggest, in order to become most efficient with using
NVDA, you might consider purchasing our training material. Basic Training
with NVDA is the first module I would recommend. Despite the name, it
actually covers everything from reading the time, up through complex tasks
like using the review cursor, object navigation and creating configuration
profiles. We also have modules on using Word, Excel and Outlook with
NVDA. You can purchase these individually, or in our NVDA Productivity
Bundle which also includes telephone support.

All of those are available from the NV Access shop:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM Aine Kelly Costello <ainekc@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

New here and my apologies if this topic has been well-covered before but
I’ve not found an efficient ways to search group archives yet!

I’m switching back to Windows after using a Mac for a couple of years, as
I’ll be studying investigative journalism and am fairly sure I’ll find
any
software we need to use etc. to work better on Windows than Mac (still
getting info on that).

I’m moving overseas, where I probably won’t have access to funding for
technology, etc., as an international student. So I’m trying to work out
now whether to exclusively use NVDA or try and purchase a JAWS SMA while
I’m still living in New Zealand.

My question is: can you tell me about anything that springs to mind that
NVDA does particularly poorly that JAWS does well? In the domains of MS
Word, excel and web browsing, in particular.

I imagine JAWS is well-ahead of NVDA in OCRing by now, for instance, but
perhaps there’s enough free software around to do this efficiently now
that
that’s not a big deal any more … thoughts?

Thanks very much in advance,

Best wishes,

Áine


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.
aravind.rajendran@bankofbaroda.co.in.


locked Re: NVDA versus JAWS

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Áine,

I would argue that NVDA can do everything our competitors can do, including OCR (on Windows 10, press NVDA+r then use the regular reading keys), however, I'll leave it to others to argue the pros and cons.

One thing I would suggest, in order to become most efficient with using NVDA, you might consider purchasing our training material.  Basic Training with NVDA is the first module I would recommend.  Despite the name, it actually covers everything from reading the time, up through complex tasks like using the review cursor, object navigation and creating configuration profiles.  We also have modules on using Word, Excel and Outlook with NVDA.  You can purchase these individually, or in our NVDA Productivity Bundle which also includes telephone support.

All of those are available from the NV Access shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM Aine Kelly Costello <ainekc@...> wrote:
Hi all,

New here and my apologies if this topic has been well-covered before but I’ve not found an efficient ways to search group archives yet!

I’m switching back to Windows after using a Mac for a couple of years, as I’ll be studying investigative journalism and am fairly sure I’ll find any software we need to use etc. to work better on Windows than Mac (still getting info on that).

I’m moving overseas, where I probably won’t have access to funding for technology, etc., as an international student. So I’m trying to work out now whether to exclusively use NVDA or try and purchase a JAWS SMA while I’m still living in New Zealand.

My question is: can you tell me about anything that springs to mind that NVDA does particularly poorly that JAWS does well? In the domains of MS Word, excel and web browsing, in particular.

I imagine JAWS is well-ahead of NVDA in OCRing by now, for instance, but perhaps there’s enough free software around to do this efficiently now that that’s not a big deal any more … thoughts?

Thanks very much in advance,

Best wishes,

Áine




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


locked Re: NVDA versus JAWS

 

hi.
i dont use microsoft product and not familiar with it.
but the only difference that i know is:
jaws supports virtual ribbon menu, which means that
using jaws, we can navigate between ribbons in the classic way that we
could navigate office 2003,
but nvda does not support virtual ribbon menu.
its the only difference that i know.
but i love nvda very much and pray sincerely every day for its
supporters, developers and maintainers and users who help each other
for using technology.

On 5/22/19, Aine Kelly Costello <ainekc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

New here and my apologies if this topic has been well-covered before but
I’ve not found an efficient ways to search group archives yet!

I’m switching back to Windows after using a Mac for a couple of years, as
I’ll be studying investigative journalism and am fairly sure I’ll find any
software we need to use etc. to work better on Windows than Mac (still
getting info on that).

I’m moving overseas, where I probably won’t have access to funding for
technology, etc., as an international student. So I’m trying to work out now
whether to exclusively use NVDA or try and purchase a JAWS SMA while I’m
still living in New Zealand.

My question is: can you tell me about anything that springs to mind that
NVDA does particularly poorly that JAWS does well? In the domains of MS
Word, excel and web browsing, in particular.

I imagine JAWS is well-ahead of NVDA in OCRing by now, for instance, but
perhaps there’s enough free software around to do this efficiently now that
that’s not a big deal any more … thoughts?

Thanks very much in advance,

Best wishes,

Áine


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA

 

Hi,
Someone told me that it's possible to copy a text exactly as it's spoken (with headers, lists and such) using JAWS.
Is it possible to copy this way with NVDA as well? If NVDA hasn't this feature by default, would an add-on do the trick?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Selecting a block of text.

Ali Colak
 

Hello Quentin,
I tried restarting without addons and it didn't work. Could you tell
me how to find and send the logs. That I think is the best solution.

Thanks a lot for your help.
Ali

On 5/21/19, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi quentin.
its the issue that i can confirm too!
i thought that maybe there is some problem in my windows, but now, i
am happy that someone confirmed my issue, and wished that you present
us a working solution.
i only tested with firefox and nvda selection sometimes works, sometimes
not.
for example: i press f9 when i am in a particular heading.
then i press f10 for going to the next heading, i wish to select
entire content of previous heading, and its the reason that when i go
to next heading, press f10 to all content of previous heading to be
selected, that sometimes i observe the mentioned issue and sometimes
not!
i dont use addons, so, certainly its not related to addons.

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Ali,

Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current behaviour
of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the
block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the block
or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it. If you use the review
cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may
not
work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the
conventional text cursor. If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports
"Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy by
pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.

It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to ensure
there are no add-ons playing up. Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to
"Restart
with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.

Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with
NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug and
enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email to
me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,
For a while now, I have been having problems with the select a block
of text function on nvda.
When I place the start marker by pressing nvda f9 everything is fine,
the start marker is announced. When I go to the end of the block to
press nvda f10, the curser winds back to the beginning and only
selects and places in the clipboard the first letter of the section. I
have tried this on various browsers and the same result each time and
with different types of content. I have been having this problem for a
while now and am currently using 2019.1.1. I was hoping that
installing the clip contents designer would solve the problem, but
something similar seems to happen.


help would be appreciated.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




locked NVDA versus JAWS

Aine Kelly Costello
 

Hi all,

New here and my apologies if this topic has been well-covered before but I’ve not found an efficient ways to search group archives yet!

I’m switching back to Windows after using a Mac for a couple of years, as I’ll be studying investigative journalism and am fairly sure I’ll find any software we need to use etc. to work better on Windows than Mac (still getting info on that).

I’m moving overseas, where I probably won’t have access to funding for technology, etc., as an international student. So I’m trying to work out now whether to exclusively use NVDA or try and purchase a JAWS SMA while I’m still living in New Zealand.

My question is: can you tell me about anything that springs to mind that NVDA does particularly poorly that JAWS does well? In the domains of MS Word, excel and web browsing, in particular.

I imagine JAWS is well-ahead of NVDA in OCRing by now, for instance, but perhaps there’s enough free software around to do this efficiently now that that’s not a big deal any more … thoughts?

Thanks very much in advance,

Best wishes,

Áine


Re: Selecting a block of text.

 

hi quentin.
its the issue that i can confirm too!
i thought that maybe there is some problem in my windows, but now, i
am happy that someone confirmed my issue, and wished that you present
us a working solution.
i only tested with firefox and nvda selection sometimes works, sometimes not.
for example: i press f9 when i am in a particular heading.
then i press f10 for going to the next heading, i wish to select
entire content of previous heading, and its the reason that when i go
to next heading, press f10 to all content of previous heading to be
selected, that sometimes i observe the mentioned issue and sometimes
not!
i dont use addons, so, certainly its not related to addons.

On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Ali,

Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current behaviour
of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the
block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the block
or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it. If you use the review
cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may not
work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the
conventional text cursor. If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports
"Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy by
pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.

It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to ensure
there are no add-ons playing up. Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart
with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.

Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with
NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug and
enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email to
me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,
For a while now, I have been having problems with the select a block
of text function on nvda.
When I place the start marker by pressing nvda f9 everything is fine,
the start marker is announced. When I go to the end of the block to
press nvda f10, the curser winds back to the beginning and only
selects and places in the clipboard the first letter of the section. I
have tried this on various browsers and the same result each time and
with different types of content. I have been having this problem for a
while now and am currently using 2019.1.1. I was hoping that
installing the clip contents designer would solve the problem, but
something similar seems to happen.


help would be appreciated.



--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows 1903

 

Hi,
Actually, that definition may need an update:
* Windows 10: the current version of Windows at the moment.
* Version 1903: technically called "release ID" that denotes when a particular snapshot of Windows 10 is released to the general public, denoting year and month of its target completion; in this case, March 2019, which did happen; it was tested by testers for a long time since then.
When we Windows 10 users talk about releases, we usually omit "Windows 10" from our communication, hence you'll see us use abbreviations such as "Version 1903" or just 1903. This will become a bit confusing for the next few weeks as Microsoft is currently working on the "next" big one that's planned for release around this time next year; bits of it will show up later this year in the form of another feature update.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian Westerland
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1903


HI! Windows 10 is the Windows system version and 1903 is a Serial number that takes into account all the patches, fixes and other developments under the Windows system.

Hope that helps.


Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 10:14 AM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
What is windows 1903? I thought the last version of windows is windows
ten. Or is windows 1903 is a special release for tablets and other
mobile devices?




On May 21, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au
<mailto:iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:

Hello. Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft
Browser? I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to
Chrome. As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and
everything is working fine. Took about a hour and a half to
complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the
update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.


Re: Windows 1903

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Thanks a million, I got it.

On May 21, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au> wrote:


HI! Windows 10 is the Windows system version and 1903 is a Serial number that takes into account all the patches, fixes and other developments under the Windows system.

Hope that helps.


Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 10:14 AM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
What is windows 1903? I thought the last version of windows is windows ten. Or is windows 1903 is a special release for tablets and other mobile devices?
On May 21, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au <mailto:iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
Hello. Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser? I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome. As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything is working fine. Took about a hour and a half to complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.



Re: Windows 1903

Ian Westerland
 

HI! Windows 10 is the Windows system version and 1903 is a Serial number that takes into account all the patches, fixes and other developments under the Windows system.

Hope that helps.


Ian Westerland

On 5/22/2019 10:14 AM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:
What is windows 1903? I thought the last version of windows is windows ten. Or is windows 1903 is a special release for tablets and other mobile devices?
On May 21, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au <mailto:iwesterl@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:

Hello.  Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser?  I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome.  As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything is working fine.  Took about a hour and a half to complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.


Re: Windows 1903

 

Hi,

It is a shorthand for Windows 10 Version 1903. Windows 10 is indeed the “last major” version of Windows as far as old ways of maintenance is concerned; Windows 10 uses continuous delivery, and since 2017, major upgrades to Windows 10 (termed “feature updates”) are released twice a year.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1903

 

What is windows 1903? I thought the last version of windows is windows ten. Or is windows 1903 is a special release for tablets and other mobile devices?

 

 

 


On May 21, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@...> wrote:

Hello.  Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser?  I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome.  As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:

Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything is working fine.  Took about a hour and a half to complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.




Re: Selecting a block of text.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ali,

Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current behaviour of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the block or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it.  If you use the review cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may not work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the conventional text cursor.  If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports "Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy by pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.

It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to ensure there are no add-ons playing up.  Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.

Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug and enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email to me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,
For a while now, I have been having problems with the select a block
of text function on nvda.
When I place the start marker by pressing nvda f9 everything is fine,
the start marker is announced. When I go to the end of the block to
press nvda f10, the curser winds back to the beginning and only
selects and places in the clipboard the first letter of the section. I
have tried this on various browsers and the same result each time and
with different types of content. I have been having this problem for a
while now and am currently using 2019.1.1. I was hoping that
installing the clip contents designer would solve the problem, but
something similar seems to happen.


help would be appreciated.





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Windows 1903

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

What is windows 1903? I thought the last version of windows is windows ten. Or is windows 1903 is a special release for tablets and other mobile devices?




On May 21, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@...> wrote:

Hello.  Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser?  I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome.  As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything is working fine.  Took about a hour and a half to complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.




Re: Windows 1903

 

Hi,
Nope, the old Edge is still present.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian Westerland
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 5:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1903

Hello. Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser? I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome. As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland




On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything
is working fine. Took about a hour and a half to complete the update.
Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete
but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.






Re: Windows 1903

Ian Westerland
 

Hello. Sounds good. Does the new version have the new Microsoft Browser? I have heardd that the Browser is designed similarly to Chrome. As long as the Windows works with NVDA I'll be happy.

Ian Westerland

On 5/22/2019 9:40 AM, Don H wrote:
Just installed Windows 1903 and everything went smooth and everything is working fine.  Took about a hour and a half to complete the update. Only issue was the volume being reset after the update was complete but it seems that this happens after each of the major updates.