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Re: Push Notifications With NVDA

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Hi,


Yes, the Mozilla enhancer is a good choice.  You can download it here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html .  I recommend redading the quick documentation on this page as it will give you more details.


When you receive a notification, NVDA will automatically focus on the notification.  Chances are you'll arrive on "learn more" and if you tab / shift-tab, you'll see the options.  Now, in most cases, options are in a sub-menu, so NVDA might read something like the following:


Facebook would like to access your current location.


Don't allow

Allow (sub menu)


If you press space on the sub-menu, you will be given more options on what to allow.  The same thing might apply to "don't allow" choices.


The NVDA addon for Mozilla just focuses you on the notification.  You could access it without the addon, by pressing shift-tab when at the top of the page, or tab when at the bottom (you might need to do that several times, since the notifications are somewhere near the address bar for us and are not necessarily easy to see, hence the addon).


Finally, with the addon installed, NVDA will focus on notifications when they arrive.  This might not be desired.  You can just press the escape key to go back to the website (your last position will be kept).


Also notice the NVDA+A shortcut which I personally find extremely useful with this addon.


Hope that helps,


Vincent

On 7/19/2019 1:01 PM, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,
For testing purposes, I've enabled push notifications for FB on my Firefox.
Now, although I can hear NVDA reporting these notifications, try as I may, I can't for the life of me find a way of interacting with them.
So my question is, once NVDA reports a notification of this kind how do I interact with it?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Push Notifications With NVDA

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

Try the Mozilla enhancements addon.

 

 

From: Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 7:04 AM
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Push Notifications With NVDA

 

Hi,
For testing purposes, I've enabled push notifications for FB on my Firefox.
Now, although I can hear NVDA reporting these notifications, try as I may, I can't for the life of me find a way of interacting with them.
So my question is, once NVDA reports a notification of this kind how do I interact with it?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Push Notifications With NVDA

 

Hi,
For testing purposes, I've enabled push notifications for FB on my Firefox.
Now, although I can hear NVDA reporting these notifications, try as I may, I can't for the life of me find a way of interacting with them.
So my question is, once NVDA reports a notification of this kind how do I interact with it?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Using NVDA in the context of language learning

Daniel Damacena
 

Duolingo is good at the beginning, but nothing more then that.
I'm learning english and there are some tools that can help us a lot when you are dealing with NVDA.
Obviously, you'll need a voice in the target language.
Switch synt addon: it allows you to change voice profiles at once, so you can set a profile for your own language and another for the target language and active bouth with a hotkey.
Instant translate or q translate. Those are useful 'cause you can get translations at once.
This is what I use everyday.

Best regards!



synths

 

Hi.

Over on win10, there was a discussion I think on the elequence codefactory addon I think and issues with it.

A user suggested we all use the speech player addon.

Here is the thing though, how old is it, does it even work with espeak ng, and will it work with the new py3 and threshhold.

If not we have a problem, that synth was to my mind only a concept.

And now, its just a bunch of outdated crap.

Seriously, as I said in that thread we need our own synth.

And either we chuck out the old crappy synth like speech player or we actually try to continue where we started from.

I am not the authors of this but I'd have thought that if I were them I would have made a decision before now as this was all done years and years ago at least it looks like this.

I know this will come as a bit harsh, but it seems people just say we have this older synth about that we made.

To be honest if we are serious in using our own synth, a serious descussion needs to be had on restarting development on it or making another synth or something.

I really think something needs to be done else we will continue to have this conversation round and round and round.

Is it at all possible we could actually start talking about this in general please.

I'd like questions to be answered, like why did we stop, and why don't we start again.

I think there were valid reasons but well.

Next what synths in addon form will work wityh the newer addon schemes in nvda and the future.

Its obvious that we may need our own synth, but should we have one or not.

Is it worth restarting our own or designing our own and what would we use.

Now I am happy with espeak but if we had our own synth and sold a sapi version or something and maybe the addon version or something for low cost say 5-10 vbucks I'd get it, maybe up to 30 bucks for higher quality things, maybe as much as 60 bucks for really good packs of things.

I just think with all the new technology and prices dropping down lower and lower that we really should hav a good look is all.


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Tony Ballou
 

Hey P J,


welcome aboard! Go to


accessibilitycentral.net/nvda screen reader.html


You'll find loads of tips, tricks, and tutorials up there covering NVDA.  hope this helps.


tony



 

On 7/18/2019 7:48 AM, Phil Jenkins gmail wrote:

Greetings folks

 

I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the ‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’  like relationship JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that I cannot do with JAWS.

 

So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.

 

1                     Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the ‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?

2                     What is the best default email client and web browser to use with  NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of  Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.

3                     Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?

4                     Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?

 

 

I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:

-          Outlook

-          - IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.

-          Word.

-          Audible Manager

-          Soundtaxi

-          Sendspace

-          Ccleaner

-          Secure Notes

-          Dropbox

-          WMP.

 

Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my questions.

 

Kindest

 

PJ

 

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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA

Ed Marquette
 

Gene and Josh:

Thanks for all your suggestions.  I’m not finished with Code Factory yet.  I just wanted to serve up a warning.  I will try one of the suggested voices, though I don’t think our IT Department would go along with an obsolete product.  That may be just the thing for others.
On the copyright issue, Gene is correct that not every build or revision to a computer program is (or needs to be) registered.  Actually copyright comes into existence, in the U.S. and in most countries, when the work is first fixed in a tangible medium.  Registration is actually optional, though the Supreme Court held this spring that one must have a copyright registration certificate in-hand before filing suit for infringement.  
One, however, cannot properly compare patent law and copyright law.  Patent law gives the patent holder the right to exclude all others from “making, selling, and using” the invention.  Copyright, by contrast, gives the copyright holder the exclusive right to reproduce, distribute, modify (make derivative works), publicly display, and publicly perform the copyrighted work.  Well, I hope most people stopped reading well before eating to this point, and I suspect we’ve strayed off topic.
  


On Jul 18, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I doubt that copyrights have to specifically assert copyright for every version of the software that exists.  The SAPI version uses Dectalk as the synthesizer used.  SAPI is a means of communicating with Windows, it is not the software itself.  A patent holder on the transistor doesn't have to patent every product transistors are used in.  You are making an equivalent claim.
 
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory add-in for NVDA

well, if the old decTalk access32 for windows95, and the softVoice-willowpond tts are indeed abandonware, if this can be confirmed, then, perhaps you could use one or both of those with NVDA? I emailed the author of softVoice-tts and have heard nothing back. It seems as if that website has been abandoned. And the people who claim they sell decTalk have an old copyright on their site which is 6 or so years old, and it does not even support sapi5. So, again, if the old decTalk access32 and the other tts I mentioned are abandonware, perhaps ESpeak could be modified to load their tts-dll files and those two older voices could be included as a part of ESpeak? Those voices also have their own phonemes, pitches, ways of speaking. So all ESpeak and ESpeak sapi5 would need to do is load, and use, the 24-year-old possiby abandoned decTalk and softVoice-tts dll files, and register and use the voices and/or languages they come with. the last time I heard from the author of softVoice-tts several years ago, he said he did not care if we used softVoice with screen readers. nobody uses it or wants to buy it anymore anyway. 


Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA

 

I'm not a fan of using abandond software with nvda or windows.

Firstly, assuming that its sapi4, how long will it be before microsoft makes that all go away.

Even if it is, who knows if it will install.

I used to use old vocaliser from xp for 7, and while I could use it, I couldn't remove it without a reformat.

I have had software screw up my speech settings which had incompatability issues and needed a reformat to fix.

I have also had software install, but not be workable, and stuff up a system requiring a reformat to fix it.

This in the end lead after 20 reformats of the same computer to abandon the software perminantly.

Some of this stuff was for win3.1 and could be 16 bit.



On 19/07/2019 2:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
well, if the old decTalk access32 for windows95, and the softVoice-willowpond tts are indeed abandonware, if this can be confirmed, then, perhaps you could use one or both of those with NVDA? I emailed the author of softVoice-tts and have heard nothing back. It seems as if that website has been abandoned. And the people who claim they sell decTalk have an old copyright on their site which is 6 or so years old, and it does not even support sapi5. So, again, if the old decTalk access32 and the other tts I mentioned are abandonware, perhaps ESpeak could be modified to load their tts-dll files and those two older voices could be included as a part of ESpeak? Those voices also have their own phonemes, pitches, ways of speaking. So all ESpeak and ESpeak sapi5 would need to do is load, and use, the 24-year-old possiby abandoned decTalk and softVoice-tts dll files, and register and use the voices and/or languages they come with. the last time I heard from the author of softVoice-tts several years ago, he said he did not care if we used softVoice with screen readers. nobody uses it or wants to buy it anymore anyway. 


Re: Using NVDA in the context of language learning

 

Well duo lingo springs to mind on smartphones and the web.

But thats about all I know.



On 19/07/2019 2:16 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Yesterday a new member to the Chat Subgroup posted the following topic there:  Learning Spanish using NVDA

This is a complex subject with which I have no experience, and probably a very limited number of our membership have direct experience, whether with Spanish specifically or another language.   I am posting this here so that those who might have such experience, but have not joined the Chat Subgroup, will be aware of the topic's existence should they wish to join and assist.

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Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Gene
 

I forgot to write the f.  Its good that you corrected it.
 
Gene
 
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Gene,
Speak time, NVDA key 12.
Just a small correction. The command is NVDA+F12.
Only clearing things up since NVDA+12 could be interpreted as NVDA+1 then 2 quickly.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: dropbox

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

In Windows 10, I click on the desktop icon that says my user name. This opens in File Explorer, and Dropbox is in that folder. I hope this helps.
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where can I find info on cursors that take the place of the jaws cursor

marvin kotler
 

Good evening listers; NVDA is my backup screen reader; but I would like to learn to use it just in case I need too.  What cursors take the place of the jaws cursor for starters?

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

I use Waterfox on a daily basis. It’s completely accessible. At least it works for everything I’ve ever needed to do.


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

 

Phil,
I had a go with Thunderbird and didn’t find it very easy to use but that’  might be because I was thinking too MS having moved from OE to Outlook
Probably. Thunderbird is indeed quite accessible :)
By the way I own a list covering all things related to this piece of software. If you ever feel like giving it another chance, you might want to join us. If so, please let me know and I'll be glad to help you with the subscription process though if you've subscribed to this group you'll be able to subscribe to ours just fine.
We'll be more than happy to have you with us :)

Good luck with your transition and welcome to the wonderful NVDA Community!

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Brltty, anything new

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

Yes, the braille extender add-on has a specific .brf mode as well as a keystroke to hide dot 7 and 8,  but I just toggle the .brf mode on when I am in a braille file and it works fine. I just realized that I cannot replicate your exact configuration here anyway, because this box has a serial port as well as a bunch of USB ports even if I had a serial display, but I'm glad you were able to get BRLTTY working at least, because that really helps you out. If you don't have the Windows 10 app essentials add-on, and the add-on updater I'd recommend those as well, as I find they help.


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

 

Gene,
Speak time, NVDA key 12.
Just a small correction. The command is NVDA+F12.
Only clearing things up since NVDA+12 could be interpreted as NVDA+1 then 2 quickly.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Brltty, anything new

Deborah Armstrong <debee@...>
 

Well I discovered a few things.
 
On an old Windows 7 machine, which has a real serial port, I installed the latest Brltty which is
brltty-win-6.0-1-libusb-1.0
it's an .Exe file and a typical Windows installer. I picked TSI for my Braille display which loads the driver that supports both the PowerBraille and the Navigator.
 
Immediately Brltty loaded and displayed "no foreground window" which is typical behavior since the interface is graphical and Brltty only works at the console level.
 
Next I updated my NVDA to 2019.1 and after restarting it, I went to Preferences-Settings-Braille and picked Brltty as my Braille display. Before I could even select OK or apply, NVDA was communicating with my PowerBraille just fine.
 
So that worked flawlessly.
 
But when I set the output table to U.S. English 6-dot computer Braille, it is stillshowing dot 7 for anything capitalized. That of course makes BRF files look very funny because many translation programs show upper case letters for those characters.
 
I can always write a SED script to convert case, but I'd rather not spend the time to convert all the brf files I'd like to read. 
I think this is a bug or maybe a flaw with the table.
 
The other weird thing is that for non-printing characters, such as the form-feed, Brltty shows the equivalent in hex "0x00C" which is annoying to have to read on the Braille display. I don't find a preference to suppress the display of non-printing characters, nor a way to suppress extra spaces or blank lines. Doing all this would make it easier to read BRF files, though for working with ordinary text, Word XLS and other types of files, NVDA on Windows 7 is doing great with Brltty still.

One thing that did reduce the number of weird characters was unchecking the box for "expand to computer Braille for the word at the cursor". If that box is checked the word at the cursor contains extra gibberish if you are looking at that word in a BRF file and you are using either the 6 or 8-dot computer Braille table. This seems unintuitive, but there you are! 

Next I'll try Windows 10 and see if I can get brltty to work there. I also need to try that Braille extender add-on, thanks for the recommendation. I had used Brltty with NVDA extensively at work until my old Win7 machine was replaced with a shiny brand-new all-in-one running Windows 10. So, I  was glad to find an old one lying around I could test with.

 
--Debee
 


Re: greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi

Welcome to the list.

I am sure you will love NVDA. I’ve only been using it for 2 years and I absolutely love it 😂

I also have Jaws on my laptop and my tablet ant still occasionally use it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Jenkins gmail
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 7:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] greetings from a new user, making transition from JAWS2018 using Win10 and looking for tips and tricks and default program suggestions

 

Greetings folks

 

I’m a 20+ year user of JAWS. Not necessarily because it has been the ‘best’ but rather because it was what my employer and uni’ provided and it simply became habitual. Now I have to pay for all upgrades myself, and not really enjoying the ‘drug pusher’  like relationship JAWS has with its users, I have decided to make the slow but sure move to NVDA. I’ve heard great things about the screen reader and in fact I’ve heard in many cases I should be able to do things with NVDA that I cannot do with JAWS.

 

So my PC is Windows10 with MS-Office.

 

1                     Is there a document that gives NVDA equivalent keyboards commands as JAWS, ie if you did X ion JAWS then do Y in NVDA? Presumably the ‘access’ key is the zero on the num pad that JAWS uses?

2                     What is the best default email client and web browser to use with  NVDA? Have experience of Outlook, Outlook Express, poor experience of  Thunderbird. Have used I#e, Firefox and Chrome. No experience of Edge.

3                     Music player? WMP or WinAmp or something else?

4                     Does NVDA work with any kind of ‘Open Office’ non MS office suite?

 

 

I guess the things I use the most with my old Win7Pro machine that I’m about to stop using and move to the Win10 machine are:

-          Outlook

-          - IE, Firefox (or Waterfox) and Chrome.

-          Word.

-          Audible Manager

-          Soundtaxi

-          Sendspace

-          Ccleaner

-          Secure Notes

-          Dropbox

-          WMP.

 

Thanks all and apologies if this question has been asked and asked again, feel free to point me at web resources that will answer my questions.

 

Kindest

 

PJ

 

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Re: Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Damn, sorry, not control-q, NVDA-Q please 😊

 

 

From: Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...>
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 22:18
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Control-q, then choose restart with full debug…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 19:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Of course sir, how do I put log mode to debug?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi Sam,

Please see below Cyrille her comments and ask.

**** **** ****

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cyrille via Groups.Io
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 15:01
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Test release - OutlookExtended V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange

 

Hello all

Here is a release trying to fix the issue with headers in new Office 365 versions.

Download link:
https://github.com/CyrilleB79/outlookExtended/releases/download/V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange/outlookExtended-1.3-dev-20190718.nvda-addon


@Joseph, Noelia, admins:
Could you update download link for dev version on the website?

@Users experimenting issue reading the headers with recent Office 365 version:
Could you perform some or all of the following tests with tis new addon version and the log level set to "DEBUG"?
1. Open a message to read, e.g. from Inbox:
 1a. Try to read headers with Alt+1 to Alt+6
 1b. By pressing Shift+Tab, you may reach a button to expand or reduce the headers. Press it to change the headers state from expanded to collapsed or vice versa and try to read the headers again.
 1c. If you have the opportunity to have signed messages, try to read "Signed by" field by pressing Alt+7, either with headers ewpanded and collapsed.
2. Open a new message (in edition) and fill in the "To", "Cc" and "Bcc" fields
Try to read all the fields with Alt+1 to Alt+6
3. Open NVDA's log with NVDA+F1, save it in a file with Ctrl+S and send it to me. Any comment telling me which test was performed and which works or not is welcomed.
Note: Do not perform these test using confidential e-mails since the headers contents will be logged.

@Ralf:
Could you forward these test instructions to thoses who reported the bug to you?

Thanks.
Cheers,

Cyrille

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Montag, 15. Juli 2019 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Ok, I can wait.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Sam,

 

The fastest way would be to go to the 64bit version of Office 365 as long you have a 64bit Windows.

But don’t forget that you would have to uninstall and re-install Office and that would lead to loosing your Outlook settings.

I wrote Cyrille a message about the problem, She is taking care about the current addon. I’m going to find a solution together with her to get this solved.

I can offer you my older addon outlook enhanced in the meantime, I modified it so that it  works with the new control-ID’s.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 16:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi Ralf,

 

Yes, you are correct. Is it better for me to wait until the fix – or better for me to upgrade to the 64bit version?

I would be grateful for your recommendation.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hello,

 

I’m one of the co-authors of this addon. Am I right that you are using office365 32bit version?

We discovered a problem that Microsoft changed some control-ID’s in the 32bit versions of Outlook and that’s why the Alt-numkeys aren’t working anymore.

I’m sure that a future update of the addon will handle this issue.

 

Best,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 05:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi All,

 

I am having a problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2 plugin.

 

I am running NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) Version: beta-18028,e579eb02

 

However same issue with the latest official release of NVDA as well.

 

When I press shift-nvda-I or shift-nvda-a the commands work perfectly.

 

But, when I press alt-1-9 I just get the message (Not in a message window).

This is when I am in a message.

 

Any ideas how I can resolve this?

 

Thanks so much for any help.

Sam

 


Re: Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Control-q, then choose restart with full debug…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 19:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Of course sir, how do I put log mode to debug?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi Sam,

Please see below Cyrille her comments and ask.

**** **** ****

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cyrille via Groups.Io
Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2019 15:01
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Test release - OutlookExtended V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange

 

Hello all

Here is a release trying to fix the issue with headers in new Office 365 versions.

Download link:
https://github.com/CyrilleB79/outlookExtended/releases/download/V1.3-dev-20190718-fixOffice365IDsChange/outlookExtended-1.3-dev-20190718.nvda-addon


@Joseph, Noelia, admins:
Could you update download link for dev version on the website?

@Users experimenting issue reading the headers with recent Office 365 version:
Could you perform some or all of the following tests with tis new addon version and the log level set to "DEBUG"?
1. Open a message to read, e.g. from Inbox:
 1a. Try to read headers with Alt+1 to Alt+6
 1b. By pressing Shift+Tab, you may reach a button to expand or reduce the headers. Press it to change the headers state from expanded to collapsed or vice versa and try to read the headers again.
 1c. If you have the opportunity to have signed messages, try to read "Signed by" field by pressing Alt+7, either with headers ewpanded and collapsed.
2. Open a new message (in edition) and fill in the "To", "Cc" and "Bcc" fields
Try to read all the fields with Alt+1 to Alt+6
3. Open NVDA's log with NVDA+F1, save it in a file with Ctrl+S and send it to me. Any comment telling me which test was performed and which works or not is welcomed.
Note: Do not perform these test using confidential e-mails since the headers contents will be logged.

@Ralf:
Could you forward these test instructions to thoses who reported the bug to you?

Thanks.
Cheers,

Cyrille

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Montag, 15. Juli 2019 00:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Ok, I can wait.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Sam,

 

The fastest way would be to go to the 64bit version of Office 365 as long you have a 64bit Windows.

But don’t forget that you would have to uninstall and re-install Office and that would lead to loosing your Outlook settings.

I wrote Cyrille a message about the problem, She is taking care about the current addon. I’m going to find a solution together with her to get this solved.

I can offer you my older addon outlook enhanced in the meantime, I modified it so that it  works with the new control-ID’s.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 16:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi Ralf,

 

Yes, you are correct. Is it better for me to wait until the fix – or better for me to upgrade to the 64bit version?

I would be grateful for your recommendation.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Cyrille via Groups.Io' <cyrille.bougot2@...>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hello,

 

I’m one of the co-authors of this addon. Am I right that you are using office365 32bit version?

We discovered a problem that Microsoft changed some control-ID’s in the 32bit versions of Outlook and that’s why the Alt-numkeys aren’t working anymore.

I’m sure that a future update of the addon will handle this issue.

 

Best,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 14. Juli 2019 05:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2

 

Hi All,

 

I am having a problem with Outlook Extended; Status: Enabled; Version: 1.2 plugin.

 

I am running NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) Version: beta-18028,e579eb02

 

However same issue with the latest official release of NVDA as well.

 

When I press shift-nvda-I or shift-nvda-a the commands work perfectly.

 

But, when I press alt-1-9 I just get the message (Not in a message window).

This is when I am in a message.

 

Any ideas how I can resolve this?

 

Thanks so much for any help.

Sam