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Re: 19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

h.c.cummins@...
 

Hi everyone, NVDA 2019.2 also does this. It doesn’t worry me much as that’s what I usually want. But I have to quit if I want another screen reader. I thought it was a W10 thing. Best wishes, Helen C 

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 6:43 am, Akshaya Choudhary <acsociopath@...> wrote:
Hello guys, I have just installed 19.03 windows 10 update and it automatically launches NVDA after I log in. I have unchecked the relevant option in the NVDA welcome dialogue box, but NVDA is still launching automatically. Can anyone help? 

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Re: winamp

Giles Turnbull
 

I think the best you can get is by Alt-Tabbing from WinAmp to a different Window and back, at which point you hear the track title.

One thing I have noticed, and I don't know if it's a Windows update that has made this happen, but all of a sudden I can navigate the playlist window and NVDA will read the tracks and I can hit enter to start that track playing. Until maybe two weeks ago all I could do was play a directory and enqueue more files if I wanted and then manually skip forwards with the CTRL+b shortcut.

It has always been a bugbear that I can't navigate the playlist on my Dell laptop because I can on my Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, and both versions of WinAmp are the same and both are using the latest stable release of NVDA.

Sometimes if I have a couple of hours-worth of tracks lined up in Windows that I want to play again, I'll go to the playlist and, although I can't navigate it or hear what the title of the first track is, I hit enter and the playlist starts playing. Then,  about two weeks ago, I heard the track title and, lo and behold, I can navigate the whole playlist window again. Needless to say I'm totally delighted by this, though haven't installed any new software lately so, other than perhaps a Windows update, I can't think how it happened! :)

Giles


Re: Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Gene
 

It’s a workaround, but you can write your message in Notepad, review it, then paste it into the message.  You haven't said anything about spellchecking not working properly so you may want to use this method if you don't get an actual solution.
 
I sometimes do this on web pages where the editor provided by the page doesn't work properly.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Andy B.
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 8:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Hi,

 

When I am writing an email in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA 2019.2RC and earlier inconsistently reads the body of my email. For example, any attempt at using the arrow keys to review what I have written results in NVDA randomly reading text that isn’t present on the current line. If I go to the top of this email as I type it, then press down arrow, NVDA will sometimes read “hi,” multiple times as I go through the lines of text. What is going on, and how do I fix this problem?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Windows 10 mail app reading inconsistently in email composition window

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

When I am writing an email in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA 2019.2RC and earlier inconsistently reads the body of my email. For example, any attempt at using the arrow keys to review what I have written results in NVDA randomly reading text that isn’t present on the current line. If I go to the top of this email as I type it, then press down arrow, NVDA will sometimes read “hi,” multiple times as I go through the lines of text. What is going on, and how do I fix this problem?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Signatures in Windows 10 mail app

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

I am trying to set up email signatures in the Windows 10 mail app. Unfortunately, when I go to settings>signatures and try to put focus on what looks to be an edit field, NVDA doesn’t read anything. In fact, it appears to get stuck after tabbing through the formatting toolbar. So, how would I create my email signatures?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Footnotes in LibreOffice

kelby carlson
 

Open Office unfortunately has similar issues. I may contact Libre Office and see if they will do something.


On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

I think I would definitely push the blame here onto LibreOffice.  Even if not for this issue, for most of the issues with LibreOffice.  The problem we have is that many of these issues require collaboration from LibreOffice to correctly expose the information we need.  If they don't do that, it may or may not be possible to workaround, but it makes it a lot more work for us.

I haven't used Jaws lately, but I would expect the same issues likely exist.  That's the other reason why the company who make the (LibreOffice) software are best to fix it - if they correctly expose information and use standard controls, etc.  It's likely that it will then just work, not only in NVDA, but with Jaws, Narrator, or other screen reading software.

If you're looking for a free word processor, you might also try Open Office - i haven't kept up to date with who has which features and which works better, but each time someone asks which free suite is better, various people recommend each.  For just a word processor, Jarte is another one to try.  I don't know about using footnotes in any of those.  I'd also say, if you really need those advanced word processing features, it really might be worth considering biting the bullet, and buying Office (either a subscription or an outright version).  Microsoft have been a lot more forthcoming in working with us than LibreOffice, and that is the main reason why it works a lot better with NVDA.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:56 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
Thanks. It is pretty important in scholarly writing to be able to accurately and easily create footnotes; the fact that NVDA cannot do this with Libre Office unfortunately makes the program unfit for serious writing. I wonder if JAWS has this issue as well, or is it universal?


On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Small update to this: I noticed that LibreOffice 6.3 was released overnight.  I tried with that this morning and confirmed the issue of footnote numbers not being read when navigating in the footnote section is still present.  I have created an issue on our issue tracker:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10060  Please feel free to subscribe to that issue, or comment on it if you have more information.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:13 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
To jump from the body of the page to the footnote section, press CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN.  To jump from the footnote section back to the body, press CONTROL+PAGE DOWN.

If found control+page down in their shortcut keys list, and guessed the other one (I mean, I tried it and it worked for me!): https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer

I haven't figured out how to get it to read the number though.

I was using Libre Office 6.1.3.2.  I just downloaded the installer for 6.2.5.2 and installed it, rebooted and .... noticed that the LIbre Office version number in the help menu is still 6.1.3.2, so not sure what's happened there...

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:33 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I am still interested if anybody has suggestions on this issue.

On 12/26/18, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to navigate to footnotes and endnotes in
> LibreOffice using only the keyboard in NVDA? Also, is there a way to
> get NVDA to speak the numbers of footnotes when going through the
> list? LibreOffice seems much faster and more intuitive than Word and
> I'd like to try using it for awhile.
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Re: How to Stop NVDA saying down arrow when reading command keys?

 

Gene,
I made a speech dictionary entry for down arrow, writeen in just that way down space arrow and in the pronunciation field, I placed a space. it worked. You will have to make dictionary entries for any keys you don't want spoken. But I don't think you should make one for tab. there are times when tab is spoken in multipage dialogs such as general, advanced, etc.
Actually, IMHO that shouldn't be done with any of these entries at all.
Just imagine you are reading a tutorial, then somewhere along that tutorial the author writes something like:

Press Alt + down arrow.

In this case, NVDA will read just "Press alt +" and the instructions won't be followed correctly, unless the person spells the entire line, maybe the entire text.

A better solution would be an add-on for working only with the keyboard case. Something that the NVDA Global Extra Plugin (or something like that, can't remember the exact name) seems to do, as indicated by Rui on another message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Outlook Bug When Scrolling Through Messages

kelby carlson
 

Here is a log from when I tried this:

INFO - __main__ (08:16:59.197):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (08:17:00.957):
Config dir: C:\Users\kcarlson\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (08:17:00.957):
Loading config: C:\Users\kcarlson\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (08:17:01.259):
NVDA version 2019.1.1
INFO - core.main (08:17:01.259):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (08:17:01.259):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018,
16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (08:17:01.259):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (08:17:01.259):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (08:17:03.446):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (08:17:03.923):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (08:17:03.928):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (08:17:03.938):
Using liblouis version 3.8.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (08:17:03.940):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (08:17:04.042):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (08:17:04.065):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (08:17:05.334):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - RPC process 10644 (nvda_slave.exe) (08:17:16.051):
__main__.main:
slave error
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 94, in main
File "comHelper.pyo", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject
File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyo", line 180, in GetActiveObject
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 1247, in GetActiveObject
File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult
WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(08:19:49.664):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Flag Status Red Flag replied has attachment From
mdjblattenberger@gmail.com, Subject Message from "RNP0026736F9330",
Received Mon 5:25 PM, Size 3 MB, In Folder Archive,'
role: ROLE_LISTITEM
states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_READONLY
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: False
Python object: <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x05B31B70>
Python class mro: (<class 'appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
description: ''
location: RectLTWH(left=360, top=508, width=414, height=70)
value: None
appModule: <'outlook' (appName u'outlook', process ID 12096) at address 58fbdf0>
appModule.productName: u'Microsoft Outlook'
appModule.productVersion: u'16.0.4266.1001'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 2560368
windowClassName: u'OutlookGrid'
windowControlID: 4704
windowStyle: 1442840576
windowThreadID: 8524
windowText: u'Table View'
displayText: u''
UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x839e1a0 at 57da3a0>
UIA automationID:
UIA frameworkID:
UIA runtimeID: (42, 2560368, 4, -236)
UIA providerDescription: [pid:12096,providerId:0x0 Main(parent
link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:OUTLOOK.EXE)]
UIA className: LeafRow
UIA patterns available: LegacyIAccessiblePattern, GridItemPattern,
InvokePattern, ScrollItemPattern, SelectionItemPattern, ValuePattern

On 8/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
There is information on log files at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

One way, if it's an issue that you can replicate without then needing to
reboot or something afterwards - replicate the issue, then press NVDA+F1 to
open the log. Press CONTROL+A to select all, then CONTROL+C to copy,
create an email to me (or the list) with details of the issue and how to
replicate, then press CONTROL+V to paste.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:45 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, I believe so.

On 8/7/19, George Bell <george@techno-vision.co.uk> wrote:
Are both systems running the same version of Windows 10? The current
version is 1903, but there have been updates to even that version
recently.

George

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: 07 August 2019 14:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook Bug When Scrolling Through Messages

I don't believe the ad-ons are any different on my laptop than my
desktop.

I also have a home laptop with the latest NVDA, WIndows 10, and
Outlook,
which does not have this problem. This leads me to believe it must have
to
do with the specific computer, though I can't imagine what the problem
is.
They are both Lenovo brand.





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Re: NVDA and adjusting spacing between text in word

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Oh, really? I don't even know there is a "convert text to table" function.
Thanks for the info, and I will explore that function in word.

Luke Davis 於 9/8/2019 17:02 寫道:

I will just add two things to Quentin's excellent post.

I always do this sort of thing with a boarderless table.
If I want the colons to be aligned with each other, I create three columns, with the middle one being just for the colons.

One other thing I used to do when I had a lot of name: value stuff like this, was to write it in text without worrying about alignment, select it all, and then do a convert text to table with colon or semi-colon or whatever I used, as the separator. That left me without the problem of figuring out how many rows I needed ahead of time, or having to expand the table later.
That will delete the colons, so if I really wanted them, I would include them, but use another character as delimiter.
I have not tried this in word (I used to use Open Office), but I'm sure Word can do it.

Luke

 On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

There are a couple of methods.  The ones I usually use are:
If you type "name", then press TAB, NVDA will announce something like "3.17 centimetres" (The exact value will depend on your tab and measurement settings,
eg it will likely be in inches in the US).  When you move to the next line and type "address" and then press TAB, you can check whether NVDA reports the
same number.  If the number is smaller, press TAB again.  If the number is larger, move back to the first line and add another TAB after the first.

That way works for a couple of lines, but relies on you checking each line and can get messy.  The other way, is to create a table, if you make it two
columns and one or more rows, put the "name", "address" etc in the left column, and fill in the details in the right column. If you don't want the lines
shown you can:
1. Select the table with alt, j, l, k, t
2. set all borders to none with alt, h, b, n

You can also set the table to autofit the contents, so the left column will only be as wide as the widest line:
To autofit contents, press alt, j, l, f, c.

If you want to right align the left column (so the text in the two columns is visually near each other), You can select the column with alt, j, l, k, c,
then press CONTROL+R to right align.

Most, if not all of that is in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, so if you'd like to learn more about using Word, you might be interested in
that book, which is available for $30 Australian, from https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:41 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
      Hi all,
      In case I need to present something like CV to a sighted person, I need
      to adjust the text alignment of the file. For example if I have the
      following portion of the file:

      Name            :Peter Pen
      Residential address: Some where, Somewhere street Building A
      Email : somewhere@google.com

      So by using NVDA, how I can I make sure those ":" and text after ":"are
      vertically align with each other?
      Thanks.
      William











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Re: NVDA and adjusting spacing between text in word

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Quentin
Many thanks for your detailed elaboration.


Quentin Christensen 於 9/8/2019 16:21 寫道:

There are a couple of methods.  The ones I usually use are:

If you type "name", then press TAB, NVDA will announce something like "3.17 centimetres" (The exact value will depend on your tab and measurement settings, eg it will likely be in inches in the US).  When you move to the next line and type "address" and then press TAB, you can check whether NVDA reports the same number.  If the number is smaller, press TAB again.  If the number is larger, move back to the first line and add another TAB after the first.

That way works for a couple of lines, but relies on you checking each line and can get messy.  The other way, is to create a table, if you make it two columns and one or more rows, put the "name", "address" etc in the left column, and fill in the details in the right column.  If you don't want the lines shown you can:
1. Select the table with alt, j, l, k, t
2. set all borders to none with alt, h, b, n

You can also set the table to autofit the contents, so the left column will only be as wide as the widest line:
To autofit contents, press alt, j, l, f, c.

If you want to right align the left column (so the text in the two columns is visually near each other), You can select the column with alt, j, l, k, c, then press CONTROL+R to right align.

Most, if not all of that is in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, so if you'd like to learn more about using Word, you might be interested in that book, which is available for $30 Australian, from https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:41 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hi all,
In case I need to present something like CV to a sighted person, I need
to adjust the text alignment of the file. For example if I have the
following portion of the file:

Name            :Peter Pen
Residential address: Some where, Somewhere street Building A
Email : somewhere@...

So by using NVDA, how I can I make sure those ":" and text after ":"are
vertically align with each other?
Thanks.
William











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Re: winamp

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,

Good luck with that and if there ever is a way, please let us know? Thanks.

Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all

On 8/9/2019 5:45 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I am hoping to put a bug in the developers ears. I use to be able to do this in Jaws. I would love to be able to picture frame the track title and artist so that as the field changes it is automatically announced.

If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!                 Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, August 9, 2019 2:30 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] winamp

Hi,

My husband, Marcus is the real Winamp user and he said to his knowledge,

the answer to your question is no, but if there is a way, he'd love to know?

Lisa P. Geibel

For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.

For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.

For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0

If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.

We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.

email:

  lisapgeibel429@gmail.com

Twitter:

LisaLisa429

Facebook:

m.facebook.com/ldporter1

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On 8/8/2019 12:32 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Is there anything I can do to get NVDA to announce the track title as
the songs change?
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!
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<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Re: winamp

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am hoping to put a bug in the developers ears. I use to be able to do this in Jaws. I would love to be able to picture frame the track title and artist so that as the field changes it is automatically announced.

 

                                                                                                                                If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lisa P Geibel
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 2:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp

 

Hi,

 

My husband, Marcus is the real Winamp user and he said to his knowledge,

the answer to your question is no, but if there is a way, he'd love to know?

 

Lisa P. Geibel

For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.

For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.

For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0

If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.

We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.

email:

  lisapgeibel429@...

Twitter:

LisaLisa429

Facebook:

m.facebook.com/ldporter1

May YHWH bless you all

 

On 8/8/2019 12:32 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

> Is there anything I can do to get NVDA to announce the track title as

> the songs change?

> If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!

>                 Sent from Mail

> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

>

 

 

 


Re: NVDA finding the current window class name and children/parent

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Sean Murphy wrote:

Thanks. Don't know why. But it doesn't read automatically at all. It is
silent. I will use the f6 keystroke.
Interesting. I can't get it to _stop_ reading, no matter what NVDA options I unselect. What version are you on?

Luke


Re: NVDA and adjusting spacing between text in word

Luke Davis
 

I will just add two things to Quentin's excellent post.

I always do this sort of thing with a boarderless table.
If I want the colons to be aligned with each other, I create three columns, with the middle one being just for the colons.

One other thing I used to do when I had a lot of name: value stuff like this, was to write it in text without worrying about alignment, select it all, and then do a convert text to table with colon or semi-colon or whatever I used, as the separator. That left me without the problem of figuring out how many rows I needed ahead of time, or having to expand the table later.
That will delete the colons, so if I really wanted them, I would include them, but use another character as delimiter.
I have not tried this in word (I used to use Open Office), but I'm sure Word can do it.

Luke

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

There are a couple of methods.  The ones I usually use are:
If you type "name", then press TAB, NVDA will announce something like "3.17 centimetres" (The exact value will depend on your tab and measurement settings,
eg it will likely be in inches in the US).  When you move to the next line and type "address" and then press TAB, you can check whether NVDA reports the
same number.  If the number is smaller, press TAB again.  If the number is larger, move back to the first line and add another TAB after the first.
That way works for a couple of lines, but relies on you checking each line and can get messy.  The other way, is to create a table, if you make it two
columns and one or more rows, put the "name", "address" etc in the left column, and fill in the details in the right column.  If you don't want the lines
shown you can:
1. Select the table with alt, j, l, k, t
2. set all borders to none with alt, h, b, n
You can also set the table to autofit the contents, so the left column will only be as wide as the widest line:
To autofit contents, press alt, j, l, f, c.
If you want to right align the left column (so the text in the two columns is visually near each other), You can select the column with alt, j, l, k, c,
then press CONTROL+R to right align.
Most, if not all of that is in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, so if you'd like to learn more about using Word, you might be interested in
that book, which is available for $30 Australian, from https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:41 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
In case I need to present something like CV to a sighted person, I need
to adjust the text alignment of the file. For example if I have the
following portion of the file:

Name            :Peter Pen
Residential address: Some where, Somewhere street Building A
Email : somewhere@google.com

So by using NVDA, how I can I make sure those ":" and text after ":"are
vertically align with each other?
Thanks.
William
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Re: NVDA finding the current window class name and children/parent

Sean Murphy
 

Andy,

 

Thanks. This will be fun. 😊

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy B.
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA finding the current window class name andchildren/parent

 

Hi,

 

Once you get into the Python prompt, focus.parent and focus.children will give you the parent/children of the currently focused object.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sean Murphy
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA finding the current window class name andchildren/parent

 

Larry,

 

Thanks. As I do not recall seeing the keyboard command in the user docs.

 

The console when I used it last, did not automatically read out the output. I even had issues with using the NVDA object Nav commands. So is there anything special I should be doing here to get the output to read or even find it?

 

Do I need to import any of the modules or just issue the relevant example code which was in the dev docs in section 3.9 which got the parent and child window? As what I am trying to is fairly simple and I don’t want to have to learn NVDA’s environment as of yet. As I am troubleshooting a issue between two screen readers for windows.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2019 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA finding the current window class name and children/parent

 

NVDA+F1 

As for children and parent you can use Python console.

 

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:22 AM Sean Murphy <mhysnm1964@...> wrote:

All.

 

Does NVDA have a module or shortcut key already built that will look at the current control (object) with focus and give me the window class name? I did see the developers guide documentation and I could not use the example. It gave errors and I do not have the errors at hand.

 

I also would like to know the child or parent. This is build in Jaws by default. Any help is grateful.

 

 


Re: NVDA finding the current window class name and children/parent

Sean Murphy
 

Luke,

Thanks. Don't know why. But it doesn't read automatically at all. It is
silent. I will use the f6 keystroke.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2019 1:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA finding the current window class name and
children/parent

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, Sean Murphy wrote:

The console when I used it last, did not automatically read out the
output. I even had issues with using the NVDA object Nav commands. So is
there anything special I should be doing here to get the output to read or
even find it?

It does tend to read automatically for me, but if you don't like how it's
reading, press F6. That will take you to the output section, and you can use
arrows and regular navigation to read as if in a text editor.
Selection commands are also available.

Luke


Re: winamp

Lisa P Geibel
 

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Is there anything I can do to get NVDA to announce the track title as the songs change?

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Re: NVDA and adjusting spacing between text in word

Quentin Christensen
 

There are a couple of methods.  The ones I usually use are:

If you type "name", then press TAB, NVDA will announce something like "3.17 centimetres" (The exact value will depend on your tab and measurement settings, eg it will likely be in inches in the US).  When you move to the next line and type "address" and then press TAB, you can check whether NVDA reports the same number.  If the number is smaller, press TAB again.  If the number is larger, move back to the first line and add another TAB after the first.

That way works for a couple of lines, but relies on you checking each line and can get messy.  The other way, is to create a table, if you make it two columns and one or more rows, put the "name", "address" etc in the left column, and fill in the details in the right column.  If you don't want the lines shown you can:
1. Select the table with alt, j, l, k, t
2. set all borders to none with alt, h, b, n

You can also set the table to autofit the contents, so the left column will only be as wide as the widest line:
To autofit contents, press alt, j, l, f, c.

If you want to right align the left column (so the text in the two columns is visually near each other), You can select the column with alt, j, l, k, c, then press CONTROL+R to right align.

Most, if not all of that is in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module, so if you'd like to learn more about using Word, you might be interested in that book, which is available for $30 Australian, from https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:41 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hi all,
In case I need to present something like CV to a sighted person, I need
to adjust the text alignment of the file. For example if I have the
following portion of the file:

Name            :Peter Pen
Residential address: Some where, Somewhere street Building A
Email : somewhere@...

So by using NVDA, how I can I make sure those ":" and text after ":"are
vertically align with each other?
Thanks.
William











--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Re: 19.03 windows update and launching NVDA automatically after logging in

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Thank you, Luke and Robert. I have unchecked the setting for running NVDA on secure screens. The issue is fixed now. 
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Regards,
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NVDA and adjusting spacing between text in word

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi all,
In case I need to present something like CV to a sighted person, I need to adjust the text alignment of the file. For example if I have the following portion of the file:

Name            :Peter Pen
Residential address: Some where, Somewhere street Building A
Email : somewhere@google.com

So by using NVDA, how I can I make sure those ":" and text after ":"are vertically align with each other?
Thanks.
William