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Having troubles to play with a website

 

Hey all,
I'm trying to play something on this site but no matter what I do, I just can't start the audio.
If I press play, nothing happens at all.
So, anyone can confirm this or give me some workaround?
The link is:
https://golubovsky.bandcamp.com/album/unhuman-voices

Cheers,


Re: Telegram

Mallard
 

Is it still accessible? that's good news, because actually, if I understand it correctly, both Telegram and Whatsapp are now using the algorithms that were originally developed by Signal.


the problem with it is that I never managed to get my contacts to join it... So I abandoned it eventually.

But I loved it, except for the (then) lousy audio quality in calls.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 24/02/2019 02:01, Ryan Boudwin ha scritto:
Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com <mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway.
so for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my
usa and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because
it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch
money away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from
the the play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did
give a reason as to why they cannot put it in the play store
but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app
developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving
such a great solution, while the devs of the actual
Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with
contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language
when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the
app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could
see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very
good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop
application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org <http://web.telegram.org>;


On Android, if you use that, there is an app
called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform
called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and
is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis



Re: Telegram

Mallard
 

No. Just as you can't communicate if you use Skype and I use Whatsapp...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 24/02/2019 02:08, Antony Stone ha scritto:
Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram,
can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk
to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on
all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for
me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and
canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in
the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away
from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play
store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why
they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people
at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests
for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't
gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also
100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone
used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis


Re: Telegram

Mallard
 

They're both Whatsapp competitors, so to speak...


Signal used to be good and accessible, but audio quality in calls was lousy. I haven't tried it for years, bu I think meanwhile it's been acquired by Microsoft.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 24/02/2019 03:36, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well what is telegram and what is signal.



On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on
all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for
me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and
canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in
the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away
from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play
store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why
they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people
at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests
for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't
gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also
100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone
used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis


Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin and friends,

I apologise for sending this several times. It seems that the system,
somewhere, will not allow the log file to remain attached so I am pasting it
to the bottom of the message and sending it again. I hope you forgive the
long message that results!

Here is the issue:

I wonder if you can help me with this problem?

I am running Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest NVDA. I am working on an
Excel worksheet where I have three panels of data that must correlate in
various ways. One of the tasks is to compare the contents of cells in
columns "K", "Z" and "AK for the same row.

When I press F5 to go to, say, K19, NVDA echoes the contents of the cell
perfectly and I can review the data under the numpad key 5 .
I then press F5 again and type in AK19 and press enter to reach that cell.
NVDA does not call out the contents of the cell but focusses on the top of
the screen and will not be moved for love or money!
I then press alt+tab to swap out of Excel elsewhere and press alt+tab again
to get back into excel. Now NVDA reports the contents of the cell and I can
review the contents under the numpad 5 key.
Pressing F5 again, brings me back to the K19 cell and this time NVDA does
not focus on the cell and so I must switch away and back again with alt+tab
to read the cell contents.

This is the repeated pattern. Occasionally, NVDA does echo the target cell
on landing but more often than not, it does not do so.

I have attached the log file but all I can see in it are errors and no sign
of my keystrokes.

I tried these steps with JAWS and each cell is echoed perfectly. I take it,
then, that Windows is working perfectly.
Is this a known bug in NVDA?
Is there an options setting that I should set?

All advice welcome!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

Here is the log file:
INFO - __main__ (23:02:40.913):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.256):
Config dir: C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (23:02:41.256):
Loading config: C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (23:02:41.631):
No touch devices found
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (23:02:42.461):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (23:02:42.461):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (23:02:42.467):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (23:02:42.467):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (23:02:42.471):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (23:02:42.512):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (23:02:42.536):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (23:02:44.267):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (23:02:44.267):
No user gesture map
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (23:02:44.328):
No touch devices found
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:02:44.542):
C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteCl
ient\configuration.py:5: DeprecationWarning: Importing validate directly is
deprecated. Please use configobj.validate instead
INFO - core.main (23:02:45.365):
NVDA initialized
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale
(23:02:45.382):
No CLDR data for locale en_UK
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 7160 (SearchUI.exe) (23:02:48.476):
Thread 7520, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_initialize, 121:
disabling IA2 support

DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 7668 (ShellExperienceHost.exe) (23:02:51.595):
Thread 10536, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_initialize, 121:
disabling IA2 support

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:02:54.650):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:56.904):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66800, objectID -4 and childID
0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (23:02:57.153):
Loading config:
C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\spreadsheet.ini
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:02:57.194):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:57.364):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66984, objectID 12 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:57.367):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66984, objectID 6 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:03:07.131):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:03:09.135):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 486, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
File "speech.pyo", line 679, in speakTypedCharacters
File "api.pyo", line 248, in isTypingProtected
File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 782, in _get_isProtected
File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1071, in _get_states
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 738, in
_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (23:03:12.355):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.ListItem object at
0x068AD290> with extra args of {'ch': u'\r'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
File "speech.pyo", line 679, in speakTypedCharacters
File "api.pyo", line 248, in isTypingProtected
File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 782, in _get_isProtected
File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1071, in _get_states
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 738, in
_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs
COMError: (-2147220991, 'An event was unable to invoke any of the
subscribers', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:12.638):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:12.648):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:12.716):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:12.717):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:13.559):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:13.562):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:17.036):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:03:19.766):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:511:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:03:19.766):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\api.py:274: DeprecationWarning:
Yield() is deprecated
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:19.766):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 131 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:19.766):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 133 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 139 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 140 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 142 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 144 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:03:28.364):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 175 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 176 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 177 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 178 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 179 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 180 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 181 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 182 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 183 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 184 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 223 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 186 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 230 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 320 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 323 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 324 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 327 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 328 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 330 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.500):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 350 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.500):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 344 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:03:40.201):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.065):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 720986, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 356 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 354 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 442 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 445 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 446 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 449 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 450 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 453 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.134):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 454 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.134):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 461 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:03:43.173):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.286):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 481 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.286):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 475 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.282):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 486 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.283):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 500 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.285):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 494 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.285):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 488 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 506 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 507 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 525 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 517 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 509 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 532 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 579 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 580 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 583 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 584 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 586 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 587 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 611 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 601 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 618 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 665 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 666 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 669 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 670 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 672 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 673 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.058):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 701 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.058):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 695 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 708 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 755 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 756 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 759 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 760 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 762 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 763 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.207):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 787 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.207):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 777 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.022):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 793 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.244):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 805 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.244):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 799 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:03:59.503):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.174):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 262252, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 811 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 809 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 896 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 899 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 900 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 903 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 904 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 907 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 908 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 915 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:04.328):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:09.213):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.256):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 197100, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.302):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 964 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 959 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 957 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 997 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1000 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1001 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1004 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1005 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1008 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1009 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1012 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1013 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1020 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:20.865):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1038 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:20.895):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:21.006):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1056 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:21.006):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1044 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:25.884):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.611):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 48301500, objectID -8 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1067 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1062 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1060 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1100 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1103 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1104 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1107 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1108 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1111 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1112 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1115 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1116 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1123 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:33.898):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1153 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:33.928):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:39.108):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.723):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 132762, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1179 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1174 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1172 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1212 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1215 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1216 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1219 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1220 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1223 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1224 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1227 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1228 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1235 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.788):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1261 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:46.822):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.937):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1278 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.937):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1267 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:51.917):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.842):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 329370, objectID -8 and childID
0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.903):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1289 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1284 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1282 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1322 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1325 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1326 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1329 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1330 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1333 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1334 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1337 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1338 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1345 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:57.441):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1375 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:57.492):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects

That is the end fo the log file! Any ideas?


Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

I wonder if you can help me with this problem?

I am running Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest NVDA. I am working on an
Excel worksheet where I have three panels of data that must correlate in
various ways. One of the tasks is to compare the contents of cells in
columns "K", "Z" and "AK for the same row.

When I press F5 to go to, say, K19, NVDA echoes the contents of the cell
perfectly and I can review the data under the numpad key 5 .
I then press F5 again and type in AK19 and press enter to reach that cell.
NVDA does not call out the contents of the cell but focusses on the top of
the screen and will not be moved for love or money!
I then press alt+tab to swap out of Excel elsewhere and press alt+tab again
to get back into excel. Now NVDA reports the contents of the cell and I can
review the contents under the numpad 5 key.
Pressing F5 again, brings me back to the K19 cell and this time NVDA does
not focus on the cell and so I must switch away and back again with alt+tab
to read the cell contents.

This is the repeated pattern. Occasionally, NVDA does echo the target cell
on landing but more often than not, it does not do so.

I have attached the log file but all I can see in it are errors and no sign
of my keystrokes.

I tried these steps with JAWS and each cell is echoed perfectly. I take it,
then, that Windows is working perfectly.
Is this a known bug in NVDA?
Is there an options setting that I should set?

All advice welcome!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I notice a few of my posts have not actually appeared while others have. so wondered what the problem was, and no they are not in spam.
Please do not reply to this as its purely to monitor where it goes.
Brian

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Re: Telegram

Tyler Wood
 

Which telegram are you referring to? The web client works just fine and has no lag.


Team talk is fine, but only blind folks use it. Nothing wrong with skype on either platform imho. I'm tired of this constant need for stereo audio when folks are just talking.

On 2019-02-23 11:09 p.m., Elshara Silverheart wrote:
Telegram works just has lag when reading chat history.
Signal bought by Microsoft.
Zello haven't tried it.
Team Talk good all around.
Wickr forget it.
Skype is better on Mobile than it is for PC. Would not recommend it.

On 2/23/19, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Zello rocks and I use the desktop version with NVDA.



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for Windows
10



________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Shaun Everiss
<sm.everiss@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:40:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

what about zello, I have never used it much but it does work.



On 24/02/2019 3:38 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
They are both apops to communicate. They can call, text, group chat etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Well what is telegram and what is signal.



On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well.
Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use
Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can
talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully
accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so
for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa
and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's
not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the
play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as
to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten
it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by
people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our
requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been
released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I
haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my
phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is
also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has
anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis









Re: Telegram

 

Telegram works just has lag when reading chat history.
Signal bought by Microsoft.
Zello haven't tried it.
Team Talk good all around.
Wickr forget it.
Skype is better on Mobile than it is for PC. Would not recommend it.

On 2/23/19, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Zello rocks and I use the desktop version with NVDA.



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for Windows
10



________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Shaun Everiss
<sm.everiss@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:40:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

what about zello, I have never used it much but it does work.



On 24/02/2019 3:38 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
They are both apops to communicate. They can call, text, group chat etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Well what is telegram and what is signal.



On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well.
Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use
Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can
talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully
accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so
for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa
and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's
not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the
play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as
to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten
it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by
people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our
requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been
released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I
haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my
phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is
also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has
anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis











Re: Telegram

Lino Morales
 

Zello rocks and I use the desktop version with NVDA.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 9:40:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram
 
what about zello, I have never used it much but it does work.



On 24/02/2019 3:38 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
> They are both apops to communicate. They can call, text, group chat etc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram
>
> Well what is telegram and what is signal.
>
>
>
> On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
>> I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony
>> Stone
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram
>>
>> Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?
>>
>> Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:
>>
>>> Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully
>>> accessible on all platforms.
>>>
>>> It has the same security advantages as telegram.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>>>> Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so
>>>> for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa
>>>> and canada peoples are more popular.
>>>>
>>>> Take care
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Missing out, then.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's
>>>> not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
>>>> away from developers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the
>>>> play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as
>>>> to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.
>>>>
>>>> Take care
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello there,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by
>>>> people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
>>>> solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our
>>>> requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
>>>> contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
>>>> Never seen anything like that!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I
>>>> haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ciao,
>>>>
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>>> That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The website is.
>>>>
>>>> web.telegram.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is
>>>> also 100% accessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hope that helps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has
>>>> anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Telegram

 

what about zello, I have never used it much but it does work.

On 24/02/2019 3:38 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
They are both apops to communicate. They can call, text, group chat etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Well what is telegram and what is signal.



On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully
accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so
for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa
and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's
not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the
play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as
to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by
people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our
requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I
haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is
also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has
anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis





Re: Telegram

Sam Bushman
 

They are both apops to communicate. They can call, text, group chat etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Well what is telegram and what is signal.



On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully
accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so
for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa
and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's
not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the
play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as
to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by
people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our
requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I
haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is
also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has
anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis


Re: Telegram

 

Well what is telegram and what is signal.

On 24/02/2019 2:15 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:
I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on
all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for
me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and
canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in
the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away
from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play
store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why
they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people
at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests
for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't
gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also
100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone
used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis


Re: Telegram

Sam Bushman
 

I downloaded signal desktop and installed it. Doesn't seem to talk well. Is there a manual and or hotkeys for the app? How can I get started?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Telegram

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram, can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on
all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for
me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and
canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in
the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away
from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play
store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why
they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people
at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests
for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't
gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also
100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone
used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis
--
"When you talk about Linux versus Windows, you're talking about which
operating system is the best value for money and fit for purpose. That's a very
basic decision customers can make if they have the information available to
them. Quite frankly if we lose to Linux because our customers say it's better
value for money, tough luck for us."

- Steve Vamos, MD of Microsoft Australia

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Telegram

Antony Stone
 

Is it interoperable (by which I mean, if you use Signal and I use Telegram,
can we communicate)?

Or is it just another "closed society", where the people who are in can talk
to each other, but not to anyone else?


Antony.

On Sunday 24 February 2019 at 02:01:39, Ryan Boudwin wrote:

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on
all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for
me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and
canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in
the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away
from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play
store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why
they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people
at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great
solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests
for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first
contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released...
Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't
gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also
100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone
used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis
--
"When you talk about Linux versus Windows, you're talking about which
operating system is the best value for money and fit for purpose. That's a very
basic decision customers can make if they have the information available to
them. Quite frankly if we lose to Linux because our customers say it's better
value for money, tough luck for us."

- Steve Vamos, MD of Microsoft Australia

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Telegram

Ryan Boudwin
 

Signal is an excellent alternative to Telegram and is fully accessible on all platforms.

It has the same security advantages as telegram.

Ryan

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:56 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and canada peoples are more popular.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Missing out, then.


That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.


I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away from developers.


On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis




Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I wasn't doing anything else in the background. I'll keep an eye on it to see if it's an intermittent thing.



On 2/23/2019 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
Then we'll see what happens in future.  If it started earlier, then stopped, we'll see if it is an intermittent problem.  When it started again, were you doing other things in the background that were taxing the processor?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

It's not doing it now.



On 2/23/2019 4:09 PM, Gene wrote:
You said in an earlier message, that it had started repeating again.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

The subject isn't repeating anymore. I have thunderbird set to a new tab
and it's working fine now.



On 2/23/2019 2:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
>
> On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote:
>> yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you
>> now. (Grin).
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>
>>> I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating
>>> anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the
>>>> subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab
>>>> didn't have that result.
>>>>
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon
>>>>> as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the
>>>>> desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading
>>>>> the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command
>>>>> for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I
>>>>>> hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
>>>>>> message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
>>>>>> thunderbird?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness
>>>>> related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one
>>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find
>>>>> out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please
>>>>> go to the following links. Software available
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>>> computers
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
>>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
>>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Gene
 

Then we'll see what happens in future.  If it started earlier, then stopped, we'll see if it is an intermittent problem.  When it started again, were you doing other things in the background that were taxing the processor?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

It's not doing it now.



On 2/23/2019 4:09 PM, Gene wrote:
You said in an earlier message, that it had started repeating again.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

The subject isn't repeating anymore. I have thunderbird set to a new tab
and it's working fine now.



On 2/23/2019 2:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
>
> On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote:
>> yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you
>> now. (Grin).
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>
>>> I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating
>>> anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the
>>>> subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab
>>>> didn't have that result.
>>>>
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon
>>>>> as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the
>>>>> desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading
>>>>> the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command
>>>>> for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I
>>>>>> hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
>>>>>> message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
>>>>>> thunderbird?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness
>>>>> related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one
>>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find
>>>>> out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please
>>>>> go to the following links. Software available
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>>> computers
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
>>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
>>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It's not doing it now.



On 2/23/2019 4:09 PM, Gene wrote:
You said in an earlier message, that it had started repeating again.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

The subject isn't repeating anymore. I have thunderbird set to a new tab
and it's working fine now.



On 2/23/2019 2:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
>
> On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote:
>> yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you
>> now. (Grin).
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>
>>> I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating
>>> anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the
>>>> subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab
>>>> didn't have that result.
>>>>
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon
>>>>> as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the
>>>>> desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading
>>>>> the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command
>>>>> for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I
>>>>>> hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
>>>>>> message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
>>>>>> thunderbird?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness
>>>>> related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one
>>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find
>>>>> out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please
>>>>> go to the following links. Software available
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>>> computers
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
>>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
>>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Gene
 

You said in an earlier message, that it had started repeating again.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

The subject isn't repeating anymore. I have thunderbird set to a new tab
and it's working fine now.



On 2/23/2019 2:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
>
> On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote:
>> yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you
>> now. (Grin).
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>
>>> I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating
>>> anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the
>>>> subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab
>>>> didn't have that result.
>>>>
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon
>>>>> as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the
>>>>> desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading
>>>>> the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command
>>>>> for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I
>>>>>> hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
>>>>>> message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
>>>>>> thunderbird?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Image NVDA certified expert
>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness
>>>>> related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one
>>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are
>>>>> nearest to you please visit
>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find
>>>>> out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following
>>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please
>>>>> go to the following links. Software available
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How
>>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library
>>>>> computers
>>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
>>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
>>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam.
>>>>>
>>
>
>
>