Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
I have thunderbird set to a new tab and it's working great now.
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On 2/23/2019 11:42 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: I really think this has to do with cpu usage, not anything to do with thunderbird itself. I don't have this problem 99 percent of the time. I have my messages opening in a separate tab, and when I press enter on a message, it opens a new tab, reads the message just fine with no repeating, and I can then press control-W to close the message, delete to remove it, or use my arrow keys to move to a web link if needed so I can click on it to open the page in chrome.
Very occasionally I get repeating, and it's almost always when my machine is doing other things and eating a lot of CPU. Otherwise, there is no repeating of anything for me, and never has been with any version of thunderbird I've used.
On 2/22/2019 11:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times. You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.
On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Oh wow. I'll give that a shot.
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On 2/23/2019 11:46 AM, Travis Siegel
wrote:
No helping is necessary in thunderbird. I press enter on a
message, it opens, reads the message with no intervention from
me, and I can then delete the message, and it moves on to the
next one. I don't have to remove my finger from the delete
button for most of my messages, and the only time I do move my
finger is when I want to keep a message, I then press control-w
to close the message, arrow down to go to the next one, and
press enter and start the process again. No repeating, no
manual intervnetion, and no need to stop reading or start
reading of any kind, it's all automatic, and it only reads what
it should.
On 2/23/2019 3:27 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what you mean by starting to navigate. Just
issue the read to end command. the same when doing a search
in a browser using the screen-reader search. If you issue
read current line immediately when you hear speech after
initiating a search, the extraneous material will stop being
read and the intended material will be heard.
You have to help screen-readers along at times, given the
complex environments in which they work and their complexity
and given that they are working in a visually oriented
interface.
Gene
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when
I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the
efficiency
loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it
starts
to read.
On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
>
> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but
when I hit
> enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
message is
> read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
thunderbird?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
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>
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
The subject isn't repeating anymore. I have thunderbird set to a new tab and it's working fine now.
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On 2/23/2019 2:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote:
yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you now. (Grin).
Annette
On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab didn't have that result.
Annette
On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi
No
In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email. So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
Gene nz
On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
-- Image NVDA certified expert Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus.log
Quentin,
I wonder if you can help me with this problem?
I am running Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest NVDA. I am working on an Excel worksheet where I have three panels of data that must correlate in various ways. One of the tasks is to compare the contents of cells in columns "K", "Z" and "AK for the same row.
When I press F5 to go to, say, K19, NVDA echoes the contents of the cell perfectly and I can review the data under the numpad key 5 . I then press F5 again and type in AK19 and press enter to reach that cell. NVDA does not call out the contents of the cell but focusses on the top of the screen and will not be moved for love or money! I then press alt+tab to swap out of Excel elsewhere and press alt+tab again to get back into excel. Now NVDA reports the contents of the cell and I can review the contents under the numpad 5 key. Pressing F5 again, brings me back to the K19 cell and this time NVDA does not focus on the cell and so I must switch away and back again with alt+tab to read the cell contents.
This is the repeated pattern. Occasionally, NVDA does echo the target cell on landing but more often than not, it does not do so.
I have attached the log file but all I can see in it are errors and no sign of my keystrokes.
I tried these steps with JAWS and each cell is echoed perfectly. I take it, then, that Windows is working perfectly. Is this a known bug in NVDA? Is there an options setting that I should set?
All advice welcome!
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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Re: research study from Microsoft India
Hi
Yes, this is legit - I have a student who knows this team,
--Sile
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On 2/23/2019 2:43 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote: Hi
How can you tell if it is legit as in it is a real study by the real people?
I have not checked out the documentation etc but some one else asked the question on another list.
Gene nz
?
On 24/02/2019 3:37 AM, Adriani Botez wrote: Hello all,
I got this Info on Fb. It seems to be a very interesting study.
Best Adriani
Seeking your participation for a study “Understanding computational journeys of people with visual impairments” conducted by Microsoft Research India Dear all, I am a research fellow at Microsoft Research India. I am part of a research group that aims to create the right tools, technologies and support for children with visual impairment to pursue computing as a career. We are aware that there are numerous challenges in pursuing such a path. In order to move forward we want to understand the unique experiences of individuals like you who have managed to overcome these barriers and to extract best practices based on such experiences. This study is divided into two parts, the first part captures your background through a survey (20-30 mins), while the second part delves into the depth of your experiences of your computational journey through an online/offline semi-structured interview (45-60 mins). Based on the response to your survey and interest to participate in the second part of the study, the research team will contact you after completion of the first part. Upon full completion of the second part of the study i.e. the online/offline interviews, you will receive an Amazon gift card of 25 US Dollars as a token of appreciation for your time and effort. Additionally, if the interviews are conducted offline (at place of your convenience), accommodation and travel will be arranged by Microsoft or will be reimbursed. We invite you to participate in the first part of the study by taking part in an online survey. We are excited to hear your story so that we can better design solutions to create opportunities for many others to follow your path. Before you give consent for your participation in the study, please carefully go through the consent form attached with this email. Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iiEzp01iqHsIcPFZFMQmDK60aQI2cwIj/view?usp=sharing In case you have any questions about the consent form, please email Vidhya Y, at t-vidy@microsoft.com<mailto:t-vidy@microsoft.com>. Should you have any questions concerning the project, please contact Manohar Swaminathan (swmanoh@microsoft.com<mailto:swmanoh@microsoft.com>). To convey your consent to participate in this study, please fill inn your name in the consent form and send it to Vidya Y via email. Once we receive your consent, link to the survey will be sent out via email. We have made sure that the survey form is accessible for screen readers. We also request you to kindly share this email with your contacts who are in the computing field(includes all fields involving the usage of computers for work/study) and have visual impairment. Thank you for your time. Warm regards, Vidhya Research Fellow, Microsoft Research India Bangalore, India
Von meinem iPhone gesendet
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Just hit up arrow once and it should just read.
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On 23/02/2019 06:12, Annette Moore wrote: yay! Glad the subject isn't repeating like a broken record for you now. (Grin). Annette On 2/22/2019 11:53 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.
On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab didn't have that result.
Annette
On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi
No
In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email. So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.
Gene nz
On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
-- Image NVDA certified expert Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: Dragon UI hanging with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
Good good, at least progress is being made finally in regard to that.
Take care
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On 23 Feb 2019, at 13:18, rwlord@... wrote:
Yes, I have an open case with Nuance Support. I will update the group with their response, if any.
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Sarah k Alawami
Well, that, and no one I know of in the usa uses telegram anyway. so for me I'm not missing out. What's app for me, my family and my usa and canada peoples are more popular.
Take care
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On 23 Feb 2019, at 11:38, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
Missing out, then.
That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because
it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.
I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.
On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
I will never use that program because you don't
buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the
devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in
the play store but I have now forgotten it.
Take care
On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:
Hello there,
Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app
developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.
I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving
such a great solution, while the devs of the actual
Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with
contempt, to say the least...
They actually replied to me using very strong language
when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the
app had just been released... Never seen anything like
that!
The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could
see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very
good solution on my phone.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
Thank you very much!
That seems to work. Better than the desktop application
anyway. 😊
Travis
On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
The website is.
web.telegram.org
On Android, if you use that, there is an app called
Teleight that is also 100% accessible.
hope that helps
On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social
platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here,
and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
Travis
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Re: no pop up announcements
Possibly. We'll need to wait for him to get back with the answer :)
By the way, hey Robert, tell us. What's the end of the story?
Em 23/02/2019 12:30, Brian's Mail list
account via Groups.Io escreveu:
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Has he left
screen navigation on rather than global?
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "marcio via Groups.Io"
<marcinhorj21@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements
On my side I was able to create a new
table of Monopoly and also other
games and NVDA told me everything I needed to know to set the
table
properly according to my likes.
Have you tried restarting Playroom? If so, and if it doesn't get
things
back to normality, how about restarting NVDA itself?
If it's still showing no results, how about restarting with
add-ons
disabled?
I'd suggest that you'd be using the client minimized, however I
did it
and even so NVDA reads all correctly.
Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 23/02/2019 08:36, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:
If you have QuintC’s playroom just go through the steps of
creating a
game. For example when creating a monopoly game it normally
asks if
you wish to use the default options. For me I only hear ‘yes’.
I have
to move to the history window to find out what I am yessing
to.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *marcio
via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:14 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements
Could you give more instructions to reproduce this behavior?
I'd like to play with it and see what I can get so we can find
out
what at least should be causes for the problem, but there's no
steps
for me to follow :(
Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 23/02/2019 07:51, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:
When in quentinC playroom it is not announceing the game
options
when creating a new game. It use to do this. It is only
announcing
the answer choices.
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Re: Dragon UI hanging with NVDA
This may be an old fixed bug returning. I have been using this configuration without incident since 2017.
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Re: Dragon UI hanging with NVDA
Yes, I have an open case with Nuance Support. I will update the group with their response, if any.
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Re: research study from Microsoft India
I am not sure you just have to trust that things will be ok, its
unlikely it will be not.
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On 24/02/2019 8:43 AM, hurrikennyandopo
... wrote:
Hi
How can you tell if it is legit as in it is a real study by the
real people?
I have not checked out the documentation etc but some one else
asked the question on another list.
Gene nz
?
On 24/02/2019 3:37 AM, Adriani Botez
wrote:
Hello all,
I got this Info on Fb. It seems to be a very interesting
study.
Best
Adriani
Seeking your participation
for a study “Understanding computational journeys of
people with visual impairments” conducted by Microsoft
Research India Dear all, I am a research fellow at
Microsoft Research India. I am part of a research group
that aims to create the right tools, technologies and
support for children with visual impairment to pursue
computing as a career. We are aware that there are
numerous challenges in pursuing such a path. In order to
move forward we want to understand the unique experiences
of individuals like you who have managed to overcome
these barriers and to extract best practices based on
such experiences. This study is divided into two parts,
the first part captures your background through a survey
(20-30 mins), while the second part delves into the depth
of your experiences of your computational journey through
an online/offline semi-structured interview (45-60 mins).
Based on the response to your survey and interest to
participate in the second part of the study, the research
team will contact you after completion of the first part.
Upon full completion of the second part of the study i.e.
the online/offline interviews, you will receive an Amazon
gift card of 25 US Dollars as a token of appreciation for
your time and effort. Additionally, if the interviews are
conducted offline (at place of your convenience),
accommodation and travel will be arranged by Microsoft or
will be reimbursed. We invite you to participate in the
first part of the study by taking part in an online
survey. We are excited to hear your story so that we can
better design solutions to create opportunities for many
others to follow your path. Before you give consent for
your participation in the study, please carefully go
through the consent form attached with this email. Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iiEzp01iqHsIcPFZFMQmDK60aQI2cwIj/view?usp=sharing
In case you have any questions about the consent form,
please email Vidhya Y, at
t-vidy@.... Should
you have any questions concerning the project, please
contact Manohar Swaminathan (swmanoh@...). To
convey your consent to participate in this study, please
fill inn your name in the consent form and send it to
Vidya Y via email. Once we receive your consent, link to
the survey will be sent out via email. We have made sure
that the survey form is accessible for screen readers. We
also request you to kindly share this email with your
contacts who are in the computing field(includes all
fields involving the usage of computers for work/study)
and have visual impairment. Thank you for your time.
Warm regards, Vidhya Research Fellow, Microsoft Research
India Bangalore, India
Von meinem iPhone
gesendet
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
You are generalizing from your experience,
evidently on one computer. It's nice you don't have to issue one extra
command. But when four or five people say they have the subject line
announced when they open a message, it is not very likely that all these people
have abnormally slow processors. Or, let's say that a very fast processor
does eliminate the problem. Clearly, the majority of users don't need and
won't have such a processor. Does your computer have a gaming speed
processor, or close to it?
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a
message in thunderbird
No helping is necessary in thunderbird. I press enter on a message, it
opens, reads the message with no intervention from me, and I can then delete the
message, and it moves on to the next one. I don't have to remove my finger
from the delete button for most of my messages, and the only time I do move my
finger is when I want to keep a message, I then press control-w to close the
message, arrow down to go to the next one, and press enter and start the process
again. No repeating, no manual intervnetion, and no need to stop reading
or start reading of any kind, it's all automatic, and it only reads what it
should.
On 2/23/2019 3:27 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what you mean by starting to navigate. Just issue the
read to end command. the same when doing a search in a browser using the
screen-reader search. If you issue read current line immediately when
you hear speech after initiating a search, the extraneous material will stop
being read and the intended material will be heard.
You have to help screen-readers along at times, given the complex
environments in which they work and their complexity and given that they are
working in a visually oriented interface.
Gene
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a
message in thunderbird
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the
efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times. You can avoid it
somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.
On
2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > Hi, everyone, >
> > I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but
when I hit > enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
message is > read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
thunderbird? > > > Thanks in advance. > >
> Rosemarie > > > > > >
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Re: Question on Chrome, Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?
Or you can open the Chrome menu with one command,
alt f.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Question on Chrome, Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics
while navigating web pages using NVDA?
The "three dots" menu is the Chrome Menu button, hit ALT and you
have focus on it. Hit either Enter or Down Arrow and it opens. If
you ever hear the description of either the "three dots" or "hamburger stack"
menu or menu key, you can be virtually certain it's the browser's main menu key
and that ALT will throw focus to it. In the case of Firefox, though, ALT
still brings up the old menu structure, which gives you access via a different
route to all of the things that the Firefox main menu key (hamburger stack type,
in this case) does. --
Brian - Windows
10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build
17763
A
great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem
and Back
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Maybe, Tyler, but the other side of the coin is that you're at least a little more likely to get a vetted app from these app stores.
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On 2/23/19, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
Missing out, then.
That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.
I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away from developers.
On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.
Take care
On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:
Hello there,
Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.
I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...
They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!
The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
Thank you very much!
That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊
Travis
On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
The website is.
web.telegram.org
On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.
hope that helps
On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
Travis
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I completely agree with you on this Tyler.
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On 2/23/19, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
Missing out, then.
That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.
I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money away from developers.
On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.
Take care
On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:
Hello there,
Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.
I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...
They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!
The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
Thank you very much!
That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊
Travis
On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
The website is.
web.telegram.org
On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.
hope that helps
On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
Travis
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
No helping is necessary in thunderbird. I press enter on a
message, it opens, reads the message with no intervention from me,
and I can then delete the message, and it moves on to the next
one. I don't have to remove my finger from the delete button for
most of my messages, and the only time I do move my finger is when
I want to keep a message, I then press control-w to close the
message, arrow down to go to the next one, and press enter and
start the process again. No repeating, no manual intervnetion,
and no need to stop reading or start reading of any kind, it's all
automatic, and it only reads what it should.
On 2/23/2019 3:27 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what you mean by starting to navigate. Just
issue the read to end command. the same when doing a search in
a browser using the screen-reader search. If you issue read
current line immediately when you hear speech after initiating a
search, the extraneous material will stop being read and the
intended material will be heard.
You have to help screen-readers along at times, given the
complex environments in which they work and their complexity and
given that they are working in a visually oriented interface.
Gene
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I
hit enter on a message in thunderbird
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the
efficiency
loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it
starts
to read.
On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
>
> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when
I hit
> enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the
message is
> read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in
thunderbird?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: research study from Microsoft India
Hi
How can you tell if it is legit as in it is a real study by the real people?
I have not checked out the documentation etc but some one else asked the question on another list.
Gene nz
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On 24/02/2019 3:37 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Hello all,
I got this Info on Fb. It seems to be a very interesting study.
Best
Adriani
Seeking your participation for a study “Understanding computational journeys of people with visual impairments” conducted by Microsoft Research India Dear all, I am a research fellow at Microsoft Research India. I am part
of a research group that aims to create the right tools, technologies and support for children with visual impairment to pursue computing as a career. We are aware that there are numerous challenges in pursuing such a path. In order to move forward we
want to understand the unique experiences of individuals like you who have managed to overcome these barriers and to extract best practices based on such experiences. This study is divided into two parts, the first part captures your background through
a survey (20-30 mins), while the second part delves into the depth of your experiences of your computational journey through an online/offline semi-structured interview (45-60 mins). Based on the response to your survey and interest to participate in the
second part of the study, the research team will contact you after completion of the first part. Upon full completion of the second part of the study i.e. the online/offline interviews, you will receive an Amazon gift card of 25 US Dollars as a token of
appreciation for your time and effort. Additionally, if the interviews are conducted offline (at place of your convenience), accommodation and travel will be arranged by Microsoft or will be reimbursed. We invite you to participate in the first part of
the study by taking part in an online survey. We are excited to hear your story so that we can better design solutions to create opportunities for many others to follow your path. Before you give consent for your participation in the study, please carefully
go through the consent form attached with this email. Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iiEzp01iqHsIcPFZFMQmDK60aQI2cwIj/view?usp=sharing In case you have any questions about the consent form, please email Vidhya Y, at
t-vidy@.... Should you have any questions concerning the project, please contact Manohar Swaminathan (swmanoh@...).
To convey your consent to participate in this study, please fill inn your name in the consent form and send it to Vidya Y via email. Once we receive your consent, link to the survey will be sent out via email. We have made sure that the survey form is
accessible for screen readers. We also request you to kindly share this email with your contacts who are in the computing field(includes all fields involving the usage of computers for work/study) and have visual impairment. Thank you for your time. Warm
regards, Vidhya Research Fellow, Microsoft Research India Bangalore, India
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
I really think this has to do with cpu usage, not anything to do with thunderbird itself. I don't have this problem 99 percent of the time. I have my messages opening in a separate tab, and when I press enter on a message, it opens a new tab, reads the message just fine with no repeating, and I can then press control-W to close the message, delete to remove it, or use my arrow keys to move to a web link if needed so I can click on it to open the page in chrome.
Very occasionally I get repeating, and it's almost always when my machine is doing other things and eating a lot of CPU. Otherwise, there is no repeating of anything for me, and never has been with any version of thunderbird I've used.
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On 2/22/2019 11:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote: No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times. You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.
On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
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Hi,
Missing out, then.
That's like saying you won't buy an app on a computer because
it's not in the windows or mac app store. It is just sillyness.
I wish more apps did that. Google and apple love to snatch money
away from developers.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2019-02-23 10:24 a.m., Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
I will never use that program because you don't
buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the
devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in
the play store but I have now forgotten it.
Take care
On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:
Hello there,
Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app
developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.
I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving
such a great solution, while the devs of the actual
Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with
contempt, to say the least...
They actually replied to me using very strong language
when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the
app had just been released... Never seen anything like
that!
The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could
see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very
good solution on my phone.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
Thank you very much!
That seems to work. Better than the desktop application
anyway. 😊
Travis
On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
The website is.
web.telegram.org
On Android, if you use that, there is an app called
Teleight that is also 100% accessible.
hope that helps
On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social
platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here,
and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
Travis
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