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Re: Question on Chrome, Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

The "three dots" menu is the Chrome Menu button, hit ALT and you have focus on it.  Hit either Enter or Down Arrow and it opens.

If you ever hear the description of either the "three dots" or "hamburger stack" menu or menu key, you can be virtually certain it's the browser's main menu key and that ALT will throw focus to it.  In the case of Firefox, though, ALT still brings up the old menu structure, which gives you access via a different route to all of the things that the Firefox main menu key (hamburger stack type, in this case) does.
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          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Question on Chrome, Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

Curtis Delzer
 

how did you follow the steps after you've changed the shortcut, that bit
about clicking on the upper left side? etc.
thanks I think it is step 5? :)
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San Bernardino, CA


Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Gene
 

You are issuing an unnecessary command.  Every command you issue silences previous speech and also carries out the command.  All you have to do is issue one command, read to end.  It will silence any current speech and begin reading to end.  You only have to use control to silence speech when you want to silence speech and have no other action taken.
 
It does this because every command silences speech but control by itself never does anything else, as a standard practice in Windows.
 
This is important to know for convenience and efficiency.  If you are reading and want the current line repeated, if you are still on that line, just using read current line will both stop current speech and read the current line.  You don't have to use control first.  That is another example of gaining efficiency and removing an inconvenience.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

I'll have to start doing that.



On 2/23/2019 8:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> This is a long standing bug in nvda. All I do is hit ctrl or esc to
> silence speech and then hit the read to end command and then I just
> hear the body of the message.
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> On 2/22/2019 10:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>> Hi, everyone,
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>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit
>> enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is
>> read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
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>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'll have to start doing that.

On 2/23/2019 8:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This is a long standing bug in nvda. All I do is hit ctrl or esc to silence speech and then hit the read to end command and then I just hear the body of the message.
Roger\









On 2/22/2019 10:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie






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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

The preview pane is disabled and the subject line startedrepeating itself again. I don't know why this behavior is persisting.

On 2/23/2019 2:45 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, do you know if you have the review pain disabled and Thunderbird? This pops up a brief version of the message as soon as your cursor passes over it even before it is opened. If this is disabled, I think this behavior will go away.
On Feb 23, 2019, at 12:19 AM, Annette Moore <angelgirl52376@gmail.com> wrote:
Sile
I don't usually let it read me the subject after hitting enter; instead, I immediately hit the say-all command. however, I just purposely let it start reading the entire email without doing anything after hitting enter, and it only read me the subject once, followed by the body. I'm using the latest version of thunderbird, whatever that is. It just updated fairly recently. Sorry; I know this probably isn't helpful, to hear that my thunderbird isn't repeatedly reading me the subject lines of emails, but I thought I'd let you know I'm not experiencing the same issue here.

Annette

On 2/22/2019 10:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.

On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie






Re: Telegram

Sarah k Alawami
 

I will never use that program because you don't buy it from the the play store, hence I don't trust the devs. They did give a reason as to why they cannot put it in the play store but I have now forgotten it.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 4:58, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis




Re: Dragon UI hanging with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't use the software. But I've ben hearing complaints up to I believe it was last year 2018 by someone who is deaf blind. Dragin hangs on their windows using nvda, and hangs on their mac using voiceover, but it does not hang when using any screen readers and only their braille display, if I understand them correctly.

Take care

On 23 Feb 2019, at 0:31, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you asked Dragon about this one? I don't use it myself, but there is back in my misty old brain cell some recollection that this got fixed somehow. Maybe a later version of the software or something?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dragon UI hanging with NVDA

I've heard of similar issues with this software and nvda over the last
few years from people who have tested this. I have not however heard of
any fixes.

Take care

On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:15, rwlord@... wrote:

When I click on Dragon toolbar > Tools > Options, the options dialog
appears but mouse clicks and voice commands are ignored everywhere.
The pointer changes to an hourglass in the options dialog box. The
only recourse is ctrl-alt-del and restart Windows. If I exit NVDA
before calling up the Dragon options dialog, the UI does not hang.
I have latest releases of Win 10, Dragon Pro Individual and NVDA.
Has anybody Scene similar or do I have a personal problem?

Bob


Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

This is a long standing bug in nvda. All I do is hit ctrl or esc to silence speech and then hit the read to end command and then I just hear the body of the message.
Roger\

On 2/22/2019 10:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie





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Re: A political history of Windows accessibility standards.

JM Casey
 

I think possibly the browser might just be too much work for him/most single individuals to take on.

 

There is a pretty big demand for BBC iPlayer service; I think people in the uSA can take advantage as well.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: February 23, 2019 7:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A political history of Windows accessibility standards.

 

On his blog I see him updating his BBC Iplayer software a lot more than his calendar, podcastcher, clock, and browser. I don't blame him because he's only trying to keep up with a corperation's API. But, well, maybe it's time to scrap those BBC programs? I'm in the USA so have no clue how helpful his BBC software is, though.


Re: no pop up announcements

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Has he left screen navigation on rather than global?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements


On my side I was able to create a new table of Monopoly and also other
games and NVDA told me everything I needed to know to set the table
properly according to my likes.
Have you tried restarting Playroom? If so, and if it doesn't get things
back to normality, how about restarting NVDA itself?
If it's still showing no results, how about restarting with add-ons
disabled?
I'd suggest that you'd be using the client minimized, however I did it
and even so NVDA reads all correctly.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>;

Em 23/02/2019 08:36, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

If you have QuintC’s playroom just go through the steps of creating a
game. For example when creating a monopoly game it normally asks if
you wish to use the default options. For me I only hear ‘yes’. I have
to move to the history window to find out what I am yessing to.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *marcio
via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:14 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements

Could you give more instructions to reproduce this behavior?
I'd like to play with it and see what I can get so we can find out
what at least should be causes for the problem, but there's no steps
for me to follow :(


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>;

Em 23/02/2019 07:51, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

When in quentinC playroom it is not announceing the game options
when creating a new game. It use to do this. It is only announcing
the answer choices.




research study from Microsoft India

Adriani Botez
 

Hello all,

I got this Info on Fb. It seems to be a very interesting study.

Best
Adriani

Seeking your participation for a study “Understanding computational  journeys of people with visual impairments” conducted by Microsoft  Research India  Dear all,  I am a research fellow at Microsoft Research India. I am part of a  research group that aims to create the right tools, technologies and  support for children with visual impairment to pursue computing as a  career. We are aware that there are numerous challenges in pursuing  such a path. In order to move forward we want to understand the unique  experiences of individuals like you who have managed to overcome these  barriers and to extract best practices based on such experiences.  This study is divided into two parts, the first part captures your  background through a survey (20-30 mins), while the second part delves  into the depth of your experiences of your computational journey  through an online/offline semi-structured interview (45-60 mins).  Based on the response to your survey and interest to participate in  the second part of the study, the research team will contact you after  completion of the first part. Upon full completion of the second part  of the study i.e. the online/offline interviews, you will receive an  Amazon gift card of 25 US Dollars as a token of appreciation for your  time and effort. Additionally, if the interviews are conducted offline  (at place of your convenience), accommodation and travel will be  arranged by Microsoft or will be reimbursed.  We invite you to participate in the first part of the study by taking  part in an online survey. We are excited to hear your story so that we  can better design solutions to create opportunities for many others to  follow your path. Before you give consent for your participation in  the study, please carefully go through the consent form attached with  this email. Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iiEzp01iqHsIcPFZFMQmDK60aQI2cwIj/view?usp=sharing  In case you have any questions about the consent form,  please email Vidhya Y, at t-vidy@.... Should you have any  questions concerning the project, please contact Manohar Swaminathan  (swmanoh@...). To convey your consent to participate in this  study, please fill inn your name in the consent form and send it to  Vidya Y via email. Once we receive your consent, link to the survey  will be sent out via email. We have made sure that the survey form is  accessible for screen readers. We also request you to kindly share  this email with your contacts who are in the computing field(includes  all fields involving the usage of computers for work/study) and have  visual impairment. Thank you for your time.  Warm regards,  Vidhya  Research Fellow, Microsoft Research India  Bangalore, India


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Re: Telegram

Mallard
 

Hello there,


Yes, I use Telelight in Android, which is a great app developed by people at the University of Tabriz, in Iran.


I'll never be grateful enough to those devs for giving such a great solution, while the devs of the actual Telegram app treated our requests for accessibility with contempt, to say the least...


They actually replied to me using very strong language when I first contacted them at the end of 2013, when the app had just been released... Never seen anything like that!


The website is ok with NVDA as well, as far as I could see, but I haven't gone into that too much, having a very good solution on my phone.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/02/2019 08:12, Kwork ha scritto:
Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis







Re: Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

 

Thanks :)
I'll take it a look.
Em 23/02/2019 09:24, Gene escreveu:

I don't have Windows 10.  But if you type system restore in the start menu search field, find the program and run it, if system restore is off, you will be told.  you can check if System Restore is on by running it in any version of Windows that has it.  Just how you turn it on, I'll let others explain who have Windows 10.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

Em 23/02/2019 05:47, Gene escreveu:
I hope people with Windows 10 check the status of their system restore and turn it on if its off.  Actually, everyone who doesn't definitely know would be well advised to check the status of their System Restore since it may have been turned off by someone at some point and you given no notice.
Gene,
How can I check the status for my system restore? I always thought it'd be on since I haven't turned it off, but well, seems it's not the case at all.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

Gene
 

I don't have Windows 10.  But if you type system restore in the start menu search field, find the program and run it, if system restore is off, you will be told.  you can check if System Restore is on by running it in any version of Windows that has it.  Just how you turn it on, I'll let others explain who have Windows 10.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

Em 23/02/2019 05:47, Gene escreveu:
I hope people with Windows 10 check the status of their system restore and turn it on if its off.  Actually, everyone who doesn't definitely know would be well advised to check the status of their System Restore since it may have been turned off by someone at some point and you given no notice.
Gene,
How can I check the status for my system restore? I always thought it'd be on since I haven't turned it off, but well, seems it's not the case at all.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook


wrote Mark about some groups.io changes.

 

While Mark is busy making the IOS and Android app for this website, I told him about a bunch of unlabeled edit fields in the wikipedia sections of groups, the members sections of groups, and the, add an event, to Calendar's in groups. Although, I'm probably one of a few who uses the site to it's fullest, like the RSS feed integration for groups and the like. Anyway, if any of you use the website, he said he would fix the labels today. I've also been consulting him on his mobile apps he's designing to manage groups on his website. He's really trying, but it's just one guy! So if the apps are not as accessible as you would like after launch, be nice. Obviously.


Re: A political history of Windows accessibility standards.

 

On his blog I see him updating his BBC Iplayer software a lot more than his calendar, podcastcher, clock, and browser. I don't blame him because he's only trying to keep up with a corperation's API. But, well, maybe it's time to scrap those BBC programs? I'm in the USA so have no clue how helpful his BBC software is, though.


Re: Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

 

Em 23/02/2019 05:47, Gene escreveu:
I hope people with Windows 10 check the status of their system restore and turn it on if its off.  Actually, everyone who doesn't definitely know would be well advised to check the status of their System Restore since it may have been turned off by someone at some point and you given no notice.
Gene,
How can I check the status for my system restore? I always thought it'd be on since I haven't turned it off, but well, seems it's not the case at all.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook


Re: no pop up announcements

 

On my side I was able to create a new table of Monopoly and also other games and NVDA told me everything I needed to know to set the table properly according to my likes.
Have you tried restarting Playroom? If so, and if it doesn't get things back to normality, how about restarting NVDA itself?
If it's still showing no results, how about restarting with add-ons disabled?
I'd suggest that you'd be using the client minimized, however I did it and even so NVDA reads all correctly.
Em 23/02/2019 08:36, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

If you have QuintC’s playroom just go through the steps of creating a game. For example when creating a monopoly game it normally asks if you wish to use the default options. For me I only hear ‘yes’. I have to move to the history window to find out what I am yessing to.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements

 

Could you give more instructions to reproduce this behavior?
I'd like to play with it and see what I can get so we can find out what at least should be causes for the problem, but there's no steps for me to follow :(

Em 23/02/2019 07:51, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

When in quentinC playroom it is not announceing the game options when creating a new game. It use to do this. It is only announcing the answer choices.

 



Re: no pop up announcements

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If you have QuintC’s playroom just go through the steps of creating a game. For example when creating a monopoly game it normally asks if you wish to use the default options. For me I only hear ‘yes’. I have to move to the history window to find out what I am yessing to.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] no pop up announcements

 

Could you give more instructions to reproduce this behavior?
I'd like to play with it and see what I can get so we can find out what at least should be causes for the problem, but there's no steps for me to follow :(

Em 23/02/2019 07:51, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

When in quentinC playroom it is not announceing the game options when creating a new game. It use to do this. It is only announcing the answer choices.

 


Re: no pop up announcements

 

Could you give more instructions to reproduce this behavior?
I'd like to play with it and see what I can get so we can find out what at least should be causes for the problem, but there's no steps for me to follow :(
Em 23/02/2019 07:51, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

When in quentinC playroom it is not announceing the game options when creating a new game. It use to do this. It is only announcing the answer choices.