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Re: Can NVDA be used on a PC with two monitors?

Monte Single
 

The last three years I worked in public schools,  I was using an hp laptop and I had  a monitor mouse and keyboard attached to the laptop so the student I  was working with  could participate in the lesson.

At that time  I was   using current versions of windows, office, nvda  and some on-line web sites  featuring software for beginner to intermediate reading skills.

The only time   I experienced any problems with nvda,  was when the school network did updates originating from central office.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: May 18, 2021 10:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can NVDA be used on a PC with two monitors?

 

I haven't done it in awhile, but from memory it should work fine - NVDA will follow the system focus - whether you use one or two monitors, the system focus is still the same - it's just a handy way of having multiple windows visible at once (for those who like that sort of thing).

 

If you do have any issues with it, once you get it up and running, please do let us know.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:08 AM Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

I will be using NVDA 2020.4 on a Windows 10 PC that has two monitors.  Can NVDA be used on this PC?  Is there somewhere I can read about using NVDA with two monitors?

 

Thanks!

Richard


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Can NVDA be used on a PC with two monitors?

Quentin Christensen
 

I haven't done it in awhile, but from memory it should work fine - NVDA will follow the system focus - whether you use one or two monitors, the system focus is still the same - it's just a handy way of having multiple windows visible at once (for those who like that sort of thing).

If you do have any issues with it, once you get it up and running, please do let us know.

Quentin.

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:08 AM Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

I will be using NVDA 2020.4 on a Windows 10 PC that has two monitors.  Can NVDA be used on this PC?  Is there somewhere I can read about using NVDA with two monitors?

 

Thanks!

Richard



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: How to use NVDA to navigate and use text boxes inserted in MS Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Text boxes in Word are not good practice, and we recommend avoiding them.  Word's accessibility checker also flags them as problematic, and not just for NVDA.

If you want data in boxes, with or without borders around the text, you should use tables.

You can get to the text boxes via the accessibility checker:
Alt+r, then a, then 1, then a again.  Down arrow to the "Image or text not inline" in the treeview, expand that and select a text box and press enter.  You can then tab between additional text boxes.

You can also get there by adding another text box - alt+n, x, then escape from editing the new text box but keep it selected, and tab to others.

In fact the accessibility checker mostly complains about it not being inline, but even inline text boxes aren't easily read, they just appear as "slash" when reading.  If you select the "slash" you can press enter to go into it and read it, but note that it still isn't proper text - eg if you press control+a to select everything in the document, and copied it into say notepad, you'd lose the text boxes and all their content.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:54 PM Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I want to know how NVDA should interact with the text box in Word. If you want to insert a text box, you can open the Word document and press Alt + N, X in turn.
Is there any information to indicate this?
Sorry, I can't access the text box well using UIA and non-UIA.
However, many resume templates use it, and we should be able to interact with it easily.

Thanks.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

marinos.poulimas
 

it is a bit better it reads the details in the numbers but it is a bit better if it is a number with more than 3 numbers if they are separated by a symbol it keeps doing it but it reads it a bit better than before

Στις 19/5/2021 1:46 π.μ., ο/η hurrikennyandopo ... έγραψε:

Hi


to turn it on use the shift + nvda key + the letter L It will tell you if you turned it on or off like a toggle.


If the same keys while holding down the shift key + nvda key + hitting the letter L 2 times will bring up a settings box you can increase it from 2 to what ever it ends at.


If it is not what you are looking for it can be uninstalled from nvda under the add on manager section.



Gene nz


On 19/05/2021 10:27 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Ok I downloaded it I installed it I apologize for bothering you I have to make some settings I still need to press some key combination to activate

Στις 19/5/2021 1:15 π.μ., ο/η hurrikennyandopo ... έγραψε:
Hi


do you want it so if it is a big number it will say it number by number the whole number. What I mean instead of 1000 saying one thousand it would say 1 0 0 0


I do not know if this one is on the add on website but I can drop box it for you. the link to my drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1>

After it is installed you will need to go into the input gestures part of nvda there is a signed shortcut to turn it on and off and bring up the settings for it.


Hope it is what you are looking for.


gene nz


On 19/05/2021 9:12 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000













Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


to turn it on use the shift + nvda key + the letter L It will tell you if you turned it on or off like a toggle.


If the same keys while holding down the shift key + nvda key + hitting the letter L 2 times will bring up a settings box you can increase it from 2 to what ever it ends at.


If it is not what you are looking for it can be uninstalled from nvda under the add on manager section.



Gene nz

On 19/05/2021 10:27 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Ok I downloaded it I installed it I apologize for bothering you I have to make some settings I still need to press some key combination to activate

Στις 19/5/2021 1:15 π.μ., ο/η hurrikennyandopo ... έγραψε:
Hi


do you want it so if it is a big number it will say it number by number the whole number. What I mean instead of 1000 saying one thousand it would say 1 0 0 0


I do not know if this one is on the add on website but I can drop box it for you. the link to my drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1>

After it is installed you will need to go into the input gestures part of nvda there is a signed shortcut to turn it on and off and bring up the settings for it.


Hope it is what you are looking for.


gene nz


On 19/05/2021 9:12 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000










Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

marinos.poulimas
 

Ok I downloaded it I installed it I apologize for bothering you I have to make some settings I still need to press some key combination to activate

Στις 19/5/2021 1:15 π.μ., ο/η hurrikennyandopo ... έγραψε:

Hi


do you want it so if it is a big number it will say it number by number the whole number. What I mean instead of 1000 saying one thousand it would say 1 0 0 0


I do not know if this one is on the add on website but I can drop box it for you. the link to my drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1>

After it is installed you will need to go into the input gestures part of nvda there is a signed shortcut to turn it on and off and bring up the settings for it.


Hope it is what you are looking for.


gene nz


On 19/05/2021 9:12 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000







Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


do you want it so if it is a big number it will say it number by number the whole number. What I mean instead of 1000 saying one thousand it would say 1 0 0 0


I do not know if this one is on the add on website but I can drop box it for you. the link to my drop box account is https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0pidybus05p45l/numberProcessing.nvda-addon?dl=1>

After it is installed you will need to go into the input gestures part of nvda there is a signed shortcut to turn it on and off and bring up the settings for it.


Hope it is what you are looking for.


gene nz

On 19/05/2021 9:12 am, marinos.poulimas wrote:
Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000




Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

marinos.poulimas
 

YES GOOD NVDA AND Window 10 GREEK

Στις 19/5/2021 1:04 π.μ., ο/η Luke Davis έγραψε:

I think you are saying that it is pronouncing individual digits, instead of saying the number as a whole?
In other words:

It says: 1 0 0 0 0
But you want: ten thousand

That shouldn't be happening.  What is the speech synthesizer that you are using?

Also, what are your NVDA language and Windows language set to?

In some places, I believe ten thousand is written numerically as:

10.000

While in others it is written:

10,000

Do either of those, the one with the period as thousands separator, or the one with the comma as thousands separator, speak correctly for you?

Luke

marinos.poulimas wrote:

Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000



Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I do not have that machine any more but interested in the discussion.

On 18/05/2021 22:10, Gene wrote:
I don’t know why.  As I recall, another person reported a good experience with the machine.  If I am wrong, I hope a correction will be made.  If there were two different reports, I don’t know what accounts for the difference.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Kevin Cussick via groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
I used it for very basic tasks email and not much more. it still choked!
I am not sure think vocaliser was used,   and espeak and still choked.
On 16/05/2021 22:22, Gene wrote:
> Too slow for what and what were you using for a synthesizer?  If you
> were using computer intensive voices as opposed to something like
> Eloquence or E-speak, the machine may have been unresponsive to the
> point of annoyance. If you were using Eloquence or E-speak, it may not
> have been.  I’m not saying anything about the machine; I have no opinion
> of it.  But I think that if people make such comments, they should state
> what they used the machine for and what synthesizer they were using with
> which screen-reader.
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Kevin Cussick via groups.io
> <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:43 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
> I had this machine and threw it in the bin! just to slow.
>
> On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
>  > If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the
>  > difference would be noticeable.
>  >
>  > In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would
>  > go for a better processor instead of more ram.
>  >
>  > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Samco
>  > *Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>  > *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
>  >
>  > I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for
some
>  > upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web
> > browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't
>  > know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would
like
>  > some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
>  >
>  > HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
>  > National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768
(HD),
> > UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
> >
>  > Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or
>  > should I move up to another level of processor?
>  > Thanks for any input.
>  > Jeff
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>


Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

Luke Davis
 

I think you are saying that it is pronouncing individual digits, instead of saying the number as a whole?
In other words:

It says: 1 0 0 0 0
But you want: ten thousand

That shouldn't be happening. What is the speech synthesizer that you are using?

Also, what are your NVDA language and Windows language set to?

In some places, I believe ten thousand is written numerically as:

10.000

While in others it is written:

10,000

Do either of those, the one with the period as thousands separator, or the one with the comma as thousands separator, speak correctly for you?

Luke

marinos.poulimas wrote:

Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000


Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

marinos.poulimas
 

Okay to make the question more detailed to help you in several places in texts web pages definitely if the numbers contain this symbol. or any other NVDA reads separately I do not want to read separately not to be pronounced between the numbers either. ! * @ # or is it another symbol

Στις 19/5/2021 12:50 π.μ., ο/η Brian Vogel έγραψε:

 Marinos,

          Welcome, and congratulations to you for using Google Translate!!

           While I understand you want numbers announced somehow differently, it's not clear how.  The number 10000, in English, would be ten thousand.  There are generally not embedded spaces in numbers, and your message shows "1 . 0000" and I'm not quite certain what that's meant to represent.

            While there are a number of language-specific NVDA user lists, I cannot see one for Greek-speaking individuals either on Groups.io or freelists.org.

-- Google Translation to Greek:
Μαρίνος,
 
           Καλώς ήρθατε και συγχαρητήρια για τη χρήση της Μετάφρασης Google !!
 
            Παρόλο που καταλαβαίνω ότι θέλετε να ανακοινώνονται διαφορετικά οι αριθμοί, δεν είναι σαφές πώς. Ο αριθμός 10000, στα Αγγλικά, θα ήταν δέκα χιλιάδες. Γενικά, δεν υπάρχουν ενσωματωμένοι χώροι σε αριθμούς και το μήνυμά σας δείχνει "1. 0000" και δεν είμαι σίγουρος τι σημαίνει αυτό να αντιπροσωπεύει.
 
             Ενώ υπάρχουν αρκετές λίστες χρηστών NVDA για συγκεκριμένες γλώσσες, δεν μπορώ να δω μία για ελληνόφωνους ιδιώτες είτε στο Groups.io είτε στο freelists.org.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: nvda program to read when there are numbers

 

Marinos,

          Welcome, and congratulations to you for using Google Translate!!

           While I understand you want numbers announced somehow differently, it's not clear how.  The number 10000, in English, would be ten thousand.  There are generally not embedded spaces in numbers, and your message shows "1 . 0000" and I'm not quite certain what that's meant to represent.

            While there are a number of language-specific NVDA user lists, I cannot see one for Greek-speaking individuals either on Groups.io or freelists.org.

-- Google Translation to Greek:
Μαρίνος,
 
           Καλώς ήρθατε και συγχαρητήρια για τη χρήση της Μετάφρασης Google !!
 
            Παρόλο που καταλαβαίνω ότι θέλετε να ανακοινώνονται διαφορετικά οι αριθμοί, δεν είναι σαφές πώς. Ο αριθμός 10000, στα Αγγλικά, θα ήταν δέκα χιλιάδες. Γενικά, δεν υπάρχουν ενσωματωμένοι χώροι σε αριθμούς και το μήνυμά σας δείχνει "1. 0000" και δεν είμαι σίγουρος τι σημαίνει αυτό να αντιπροσωπεύει.
 
             Ενώ υπάρχουν αρκετές λίστες χρηστών NVDA για συγκεκριμένες γλώσσες, δεν μπορώ να δω μία για ελληνόφωνους ιδιώτες είτε στο Groups.io είτε στο freelists.org.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: [Solved] office 2019 and outlook

Monte Single
 

Hi Milton and List,

 

I am using win10 20h2 and office 2016 with nvda.

A week ago my autocomplete in outlook stopped working.

I called the m s disability help and  got it fixed.

The next day,  the same help desk person called back and unfixed it and spent a lot of time trying to creat a new outlook account.

No success, no joy.

I just read Milton’s post, was able to run the office update and my autocomplete is now working.

 

It is great to have this list.

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Charlton
Sent: May 18, 2021 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] SOLVED :Re: office 2019 and outlook

 

I just got an Office update that fixed the problem of Narrator or NVDA not announcing the autocomplete or autofill choices.  It works well now.  Up down arrow keys move between choices.  Hit return to select the one you want and enter it in the TO: space.

 

This version is 2104 build 13929.20386 .
To find version :
FILE > Office Account then see version at About Outlook in lower right.

While at Office Account click on Office Update > Update Options menu > click top item which is Update Now.  That is what I did just now. 


nvda program to read when there are numbers

marinos.poulimas
 

Hello everyone I am writing with Google translate I am from Greece question how can I set the nvda program to read when there are numbers in this way as it is here 10000 does not help me to listen to them when it pronounces them as it is now and does it as it is here 1 . 0000


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Gene
 

I don’t know why.  As I recall, another person reported a good experience with the machine.  If I am wrong, I hope a correction will be made.  If there were two different reports, I don’t know what accounts for the difference.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 
I used it for very basic tasks email and not much more. it still choked!
I am not sure think vocaliser was used,   and espeak and still choked.

On 16/05/2021 22:22, Gene wrote:
> Too slow for what and what were you using for a synthesizer?  If you
> were using computer intensive voices as opposed to something like
> Eloquence or E-speak, the machine may have been unresponsive to the
> point of annoyance. If you were using Eloquence or E-speak, it may not
> have been.  I’m not saying anything about the machine; I have no opinion
> of it.  But I think that if people make such comments, they should state
> what they used the machine for and what synthesizer they were using with
> which screen-reader.
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Kevin Cussick via groups.io
> <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:43 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
> I had this machine and threw it in the bin!   just to slow.
>
> On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
>  > If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the
>  > difference would be noticeable.
>  >
>  > In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would
>  > go for a better processor instead of more ram.
>  >
>  > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Samco
>  > *Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
>  > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>  > *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
>  >
>  > I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some
>  > upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web
>  > browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't
>  > know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like
>  > some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
>  >
>  > HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
>  > National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD),
>  > UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
>  >
>  > Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or
>  > should I move up to another level of processor?
>  > Thanks for any input.
>  > Jeff
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>





Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Kevin Cussick
 

it does not have SSD. it is some sort of built in solid state drive You can not swap it out. so yes I suppose it is not a SATA drive butt not the SSD I am thinking about anyway I have said all I am going to say on this machine.

On 16/05/2021 22:40, David Moore wrote:
I only use Eliquence and eSpeak! With NVDA and Zoom, runs like a top, the HP Stream has an SSD drive!
On Sun, May 16, 2021, 5:22 PM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>> wrote:
Too slow for what and what were you using for a synthesizer?  If you
were using computer intensive voices as opposed to something like
Eloquence or E-speak, the machine may have been unresponsive to the
point of annoyance. If you were using Eloquence or E-speak, it may
not have been.  I’m not saying anything about the machine; I have no
opinion of it.  But I think that if people make such comments, they
should state what they used the machine for and what synthesizer
they were using with which screen-reader.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Kevin Cussick via groups.io
<mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:43 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
I had this machine and threw it in the bin!   just to slow.
On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
> If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the
> difference would be noticeable.
>
> In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I
would
> go for a better processor instead of more ram.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Jeff Samco
> *Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
>
> I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop
for some
> upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web
> browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't
> know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and
would like
> some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
>
> HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
> National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X
768 (HD),
> UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
>
> Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or
> should I move up to another level of processor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jeff
>
>


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Kevin Cussick
 

I used it for very basic tasks email and not much more. it still choked! I am not sure think vocaliser was used, and espeak and still choked.

On 16/05/2021 22:22, Gene wrote:
Too slow for what and what were you using for a synthesizer?  If you were using computer intensive voices as opposed to something like Eloquence or E-speak, the machine may have been unresponsive to the point of annoyance. If you were using Eloquence or E-speak, it may not have been.  I’m not saying anything about the machine; I have no opinion of it.  But I think that if people make such comments, they should state what they used the machine for and what synthesizer they were using with which screen-reader.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Kevin Cussick via groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:43 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
I had this machine and threw it in the bin!   just to slow.
On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
> If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the
> difference would be noticeable.
>
> In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would
> go for a better processor instead of more ram.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff
Samco
> *Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
>
> I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some
> upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web
> browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't
> know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like
> some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
>
> HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
> National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD),
> UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
>
> Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or
> should I move up to another level of processor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jeff
>
>


weird issue with windows 21h1

 

Hi.

Well today I decided to install the latest windows feature update.

I checked for updates.

It loaded everything fine.

I then went to install the feature update.

I got error 0x08000fff immediately which was strange.

The update however did install without a problem.

On restart though I get a please wait from windows update sfc and dizm havn't done much but its not like its all dead, the system works.

I tried uninstalling, restoring and trying again.

Same thing, I tried on my asus desktop which had the update, it didn't happen and everything worked as expected.

In the short to medium term even long term its not bad, I have latest drivers for my display and chipset, as well as audio according to hp which is realtech.

The update and restart and update and shutdown boxes exist, but its not like the system aint going to run.

As long as I can install updates manually I guess it will be ok.

One thing's for sure though I will hold off on updating my media backups, those are 20h2 or 2004 and probably I don't need to bother updating them I guess.

Not ssure what I will do.

One thing I will not do is ring microsoft tech support.

To many bad memmories.

The system works, it boots and its not broken.


Can NVDA be used on a PC with two monitors?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I will be using NVDA 2020.4 on a Windows 10 PC that has two monitors.  Can NVDA be used on this PC?  Is there somewhere I can read about using NVDA with two monitors?

 

Thanks!

Richard


Re: Is "Sophos antivirus" accessible with NVDA?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Brian!

 

I agree with you about the goodness of Windows Defender, and the not-so-great goodness of Sophos.  However, this is not a “choice” thing but rather a corporate requirement as regards HIPAA.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is "Sophos antivirus" accessible with NVDA?

 

First, I am not questioning anyone's product choices.

That being said, what is it that you're trying to protect?  If it's just your PC, then I'd suggest you have a look at what the independent antivirus and security suite testing labs are saying about how products are performing.  Windows Defender, which comes with Windows 10, has consistently been in the top tier of products for years now, since it's major overhaul around the time Windows 8 came out.  And it's quite accessible.

Look at the most recent testing results from the following antivirus/security testing labs, along with the historical results from the past several years if you want to see how Windows Security/Defender has been performing.  Windows Security has been solidly in the top 10, often top 5, and frequently beats out several well-known competitors that one must pay for.

AV Test

AV Comparatives

SE Labs  (Reports Page)

MRG Effitas  (360 Protection Testing Category)

Looking at these reports will also give you an idea of how the other products are performing, and if you look at several reporting cycles, you'll also see that "being number one" really doesn't matter because the top products constantly change ranking depending on the samples used for testing in any given cycle.  The differences in real-world protection between number one and number ten on most of these rankings is insignificant to your average user, and what was number one in one cycle can fall to number six in the next, and vice versa.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 

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