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Re: Removing items from a table with NVDA

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 30 May 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

That's precisely what I'm trying to do :) but NVDA doesn't tell me what I'm selecting, that is, until a certain point where it reports the selection but
then I've selected way more than I wanted to.
And no, there's no way of selecting exactly what I'm wanting. That's a "take it or leave it" situation.
I understand that you can't hear selected text, but that is a separate problem. If you want to delete a line or group of lines, you really aught to be able to do the following:

1. Control-home (to get to the top)
2. Down arrow to the first line you want to delete.
3. Hold shift and press end (which should select only the current line).
4. Press the delete key (which will delete the selected text).
5. Press the delete key again (which will delete the remaining blank line).
6. Repeat steps 2-5, for each line you want to get rid of.

Well,  NVDA reports it as a table.
It is probably what NVDA calls a "layout table". To test, the next time you are in one of these, do this:

Press NVDA+ctrl+b (Opens NVDA browse mode settings).
Tab four times (You should be on "include layout tables").
Press space (Should uncheck "include layout tables").
Press enter.

See if the thing you are in is still called a table.
If not: it was a layout table, and has no effect in relation to editing at all--it isn't actually a table, just a display structure. Stop thinking of it as a table in that case.

If it is still called a table, then my solution for deleting lines described above, probably won't work as-is.

Luke


Re: Extracting Text From Image in Word

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 28 May 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

Do you have a flatbed scanner or multi-function machine that came with OCR software (and most have in recent years)?If so, and you are able to select those
graphics, I'd simply select them, paste each on a single page, print them and scan them using the scanner and OCR.  So long as you have a system for knowing
which belongs where (which could include a single additional annotation) that could work.
Why print and scan back in? You could just print the resulting document to the Microsoft Print To PDF Printer, and then run OCR on the resulting file.

Luke


Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Remember as well, they are *.mid files also this thing was written for xp. I would not at all be surprised if it broke under windows 10. You will want to try and find another midi editor as qws will probably soon be on its way out.

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On 30 May 2019, at 17:03, Brian Vogel wrote:

That's because you're in an Explorer pane.  What happens when you tab around?  You really need to try to get your bearings about the content around you.  An open dialog is a form of Explorer pane.  Please explore the surroundings and report back with what you find.
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Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

 

That's because you're in an Explorer pane.  What happens when you tab around?  You really need to try to get your bearings about the content around you.  An open dialog is a form of Explorer pane.  Please explore the surroundings and report back with what you find.
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Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

Matt Turner
 

ah, I didn't explain right.

The program is called QWS.

its a program for making little midi music things.

The program was made for windows xp, and just heard others who use QWS, have had this problem.

This only happens when using QWS.

it even does it when using narrator to test.

On 5/30/2019 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
So, are you saying that no matter what program you're using the Open dialog with, and no matter where you navigate, nothing ever shows up?

Do files show up in the same locations if you browse there with File Explorer?

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Re: When is NVDA 2019.2 being released?

 

I split this off into a topic of its own.  Please avoid hijacking ongoing topics with questions completely unrelated to same.

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locked Re: Please Reply off list!

 

Please do reply to Andrea off-list if you are able to answer her question.   If extended discussion of this topic is wanted, it is appropriate for the Chat Subgroup:


This topic is now locked.
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When is NVDA 2019.2 being released?

 

what is date nvda2019.2

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:52 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks,


--Sile

On 2019-05-30 4:02 p.m., Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
> in word
>
> 1 press f 6
> 2 press right arrow to enable editing button and press enter
>
> you're done
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Wienholts"
> <jesse.groups@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA won't read word documents in protected view
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I've been able to reproduce this issue, though it is not constant. I
> usually take all documents out of protected view before reading them to
> prevent this from happening. This issue is also present in other office
> applications such as powerpoint, in which the issue is much more
> consistent for me.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jesse
>
> Op 30-5-2019 om 20:26 schreef Sile via Groups.Io:
>> Hello all
>>
>>
>> Has anyone come across this? When you download and open a word
>> document and it is in protected view, NVDA does not seem to be able
>> to access the text.
>>
>>
>> The only way I can read these documents is to take them out of
>> protected view.
>>
>>
>> I am using windows 10 and Word2016.
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

 

So, are you saying that no matter what program you're using the Open dialog with, and no matter where you navigate, nothing ever shows up?

Do files show up in the same locations if you browse there with File Explorer?

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Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

Matt Turner
 

I have it set to show all files.

On 5/30/2019 3:02 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What's in the file type drop down box?
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locked Please Reply off list!

Andrea Sherry
 

Some time ago someone sent me an archive containing playlists for Plextalk.
Have changed computers and archive lost.
If this person is on this list could repost to me or provide info regarding Plextalk/Plextalk Pocket email list.
Thanks
Andrea


Re: NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

Sile
 

Thanks,


--Sile

On 2019-05-30 4:02 p.m., Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
in word

1 press f 6
2 press right arrow to enable editing button and press enter

you're done

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Wienholts" <jesse.groups@wienholts.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA won't read word documents in protected view


Hello,


I've been able to reproduce this issue, though it is not constant. I
usually take all documents out of protected view before reading them to
prevent this from happening. This issue is also present in other office
applications such as powerpoint, in which the issue is much more
consistent for me.


Kind regards,

Jesse

Op 30-5-2019 om 20:26 schreef Sile via Groups.Io:
Hello all


Has anyone come across this? When you download and open a word document and it is in protected view, NVDA does not seem to be able to access the text.


The only way I can read these documents is to take them out of protected view.


I am using windows 10 and Word2016.


--Sile








Re: NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

in word

1 press f 6
2 press right arrow to enable editing button and press enter

you're done

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Wienholts" <jesse.groups@wienholts.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA won't read word documents in protected view


Hello,


I've been able to reproduce this issue, though it is not constant. I
usually take all documents out of protected view before reading them to
prevent this from happening. This issue is also present in other office
applications such as powerpoint, in which the issue is much more
consistent for me.


Kind regards,

Jesse

Op 30-5-2019 om 20:26 schreef Sile via Groups.Io:
Hello all


Has anyone come across this? When you download and open a word document and it is in protected view, NVDA does not seem to be able to access the text.


The only way I can read these documents is to take them out of protected view.


I am using windows 10 and Word2016.


--Sile





Re: NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

Sile
 

Thank you, this worked!


--Sile

On 2019-05-30 3:21 p.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
See Archive post:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/60493?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22protected+view%22,20,2,0,31136597
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*Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.*

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Re: NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

 

See Archive post:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/60493?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22protected+view%22,20,2,0,31136597
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


Re: NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

Jesse Wienholts
 

Hello,


I've been able to reproduce this issue, though it is not constant. I usually take all documents out of protected view before reading them to prevent this from happening. This issue is also present in other office applications such as powerpoint, in which the issue is much more consistent for me.


Kind regards,

Jesse

Op 30-5-2019 om 20:26 schreef Sile via Groups.Io:

Hello all


Has anyone come across this?  When you download and open a word document and it is in protected view, NVDA does not seem to be able to access the text.


The only way I can read these documents is to take them out of protected view.


I am using windows 10 and Word2016.


--Sile




Re: files not showing up when using control+o?

 

What's in the file type drop down box?
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Puritanism:  The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

        ~ H.L. Mencken

 

 


files not showing up when using control+o?

Matt Turner
 

I'm using Windows 10Ver1903 (64-bit) build 18362.116.

It says something about explorer pain.


NVDA won't read word documents in protected view

Sile
 

Hello all


Has anyone come across this?  When you download and open a word document and it is in protected view, NVDA does not seem to be able to access the text.


The only way I can read these documents is to take them out of protected view.


I am using windows 10 and Word2016.


--Sile


Re: key assignments in NVDA

bering.p
 

Hi,I have followed your discussion .
I tried to respond to the need in my module .
You can download the current version in developpement here:
https://rawgit.com/paulber007/AllMyNVDAAddons/master/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin/dev/NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin-8.1-dev15.nvda-addon
A script with no gesture is usable to switch the numeric keypad's keys as arrow keys.
It is in the category "NVDA global commands extension" of "input gestures" dialog and with the description: "Enable or disable the use  of numpad keys as navigationnall keys ".

You can run it by "nvda+j" folows by "f5".
To be able to use it, it is necessary to check the option "Allow the failover to the normal use of the arrow keys on the numeric keypad"  in the category "Advanced options" of the module settings.

It is also possible to enable the arrow keys on the numeric keypad as soon as you start NVDA by checking "Enable the arrow keypad's keys  at NVDA's start" option.

Hoping that can help you.
Sorry for my very bad english.
Friendly.

Paul.
Le 09/05/2019 02:06, Quentin Christensen a écrit :

Hi Luke,

Actually yes and no - The main point of Laptop keyboard layout is, as you note, the assumption that you don't have a number pad, hence moving the keys around to accomodate that fact.

When laptop layout was created, it wasn't made as a whole, every key defined from scratch layout, but rather was more like a series of "exceptions" from the regular (desktop) layout.

That the desktop object navigation keys got left set for "all" layouts rather than desktop layout only, was essentially an oversight.  I've seen it come up a couple of times, and when we discussed it this week, we agreed there is a use case for using laptop keyboard layout and still wanting access to the number pad for navigation (as per the original post that started this thread).

I'll post a new thread shortly with my proposed solution for comment.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:24 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Personally, I thought the whole point of laptop layout, was that it assumed you
had no number pad or conventional six pack.  Else why the differentiation
between laptop and desktop?  That is the primary difference between keyboard
types--the lack of a number pad.  I always either buy large laptops with number
pads, or I use external keyboards on my smaller laptops without them, so have
never learned or much used laptop layout.

So I'm saying I had always assumed (wrongly, it seems) that laptop layout would
act as if you had no numpad as far as the screen reader was concerned, which
would leave any numpad you do have to function as it would by default.
That seems the most logical arrangement to me.

Luke


  On Tue, 7 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

> I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have
> NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like
> being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?
> Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but
> if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
>       Hi Quentin,
>
>       As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same
>       desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by
>       default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the
>       NUMPAD using object navigation keys.
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