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Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Gene
 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

Actually you have to have the ad on for things like that to be announced


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

Hi there. She’s talking about the clipspeac ad on.


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

I now understand your message.  The add-on will cause the action to be announced but you are not discussing a JAWS command when you speak of alt followed by the letters.  That is a program command.  And control x is a Windows command.  You can cut text just by using control x.  The Windows command for copying text to the clipboard is control c.  It is much more convenient to use those commands.  The add-on will cause the announcement to be made when you use control x and control c. and JAWS will speak the actions as well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Making pop-up notifications go away

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Re: Making pop-up notifications go away

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

When you speak of read-only is this the same as protected? Many rtf files I open are reported as protected view? If you wish to change this status you do a control s and a pop-up giving you the option to enable saving.

 

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From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making pop-up notifications go away

 

Hi.

I think this subject can be solved by the use of NVDA only, as opposed to any screen reader, so the user cannot be faulted from posting to the list.

NVDA, by default, reads the notifications, that used to be called toasts. Turning off the reading of these notifications using the report notifications checkbox in the object presentation settings can allow NVDA to not report them, but they will still show up on screen. If your students are sighted, this might not be the right option, but it is certainly one of them.

Of course, you could just turn on Focus Assist in Windows 10 itself (if using that OS)

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Judy


you could try the following add on it should do what you want it to do.

it is called clip speak.


It will need to be installed.


I do not use it if i copy any thing i do not need to know or hear it say copy etc I just copy what i want then use the nvda key +letter C to read out what i have copied.


there are probably other add ons up there you might use as well.

The following link will put you in the right place to get it at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

It can also be accessed thrugh the add on manager under a button called get add ons in that section.



hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 12/04/2019 2:34 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

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Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Reaper Tutorial

Blaster
 

Howard, Sorry for the confusion, JMCasey is right, it's the first
page of the tutorial and it's hosted on a gaming site. Anyway, that's
the link that was posted and there's nothing else to do but start
reading from the first post on. It's mostly active students chatting
back and forth, so it's a quick read to catch up. I'm not
participating in the class, but I've been lurking in the weeds, lol.
Anyway, it's very interesting.

So to keep this list on track, anyone interested in Reaper should join
the "reaper without peepers" list here:

Reaper without peepers on groups.io:
rwp+subscribe@groups.io

By the way, the CAVI instructors and many very talented reaper users
inhabit the list and all levels of users are welcome to join. Here's a
list of resources that are posted at the bottom of each RWP posting,
enjoy, Blaster


Download Reaper from:
https://www.reaper.fm/download.php

OSARA: Open Source Accessibility for the Reaper Application lives at:
https://osara.reaperaccessibility.com

SWS (a handy set of extensions that make Reaper even smarter) can be found at:
http://www.sws-extension.org/

For audio tutorials, and a stellar effort to document Reaper related
stuff from a blindness perspective, check out:
www.reaperaccessibility.com

On 4/11/19, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
Hi.

The person earlier in the thread (sorry, I can't remember who it was) linked
you to the first page of the forum thread. You didn't read the whole page.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: April 10, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial



Over there, all I saw was game stuff. How to find audio reefer tutorials?


On 4/10/2019 8:17 PM, Blaster wrote:
There's a reaper beginners live course taking place right now over at:

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/28100/accessible-sound-design-first
-lesson-up-interaction-ending-134/page/1/

The instructor is sighted and has taken it upon himself to learn NVDA
on-the-fly to teach sound designing using reaper, enjoy!

HTH,
Blaster



On 4/10/19, Armando Maldonado <armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, try this link as CAVI has made this public, enjoy.
http://cavi.xyz/audioplatinum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial


so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn












Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Mozilla seems to have changed the options window, again

 

Hey folks,
So the subject speaks for itself.
Some of you may remember me from the other thread about the add-ons' section, isn't it?
Well, here we are again. Now, though, the situation is in fact at least a little bit better.
Our dear mozilla, on what I believe to be the latest Firefox, changed in a way the options' window, where we have general, privacy and such.
At first, I was about to post here asking for a workaround for this one, but I found it myself.
The story is like that: being on said window, one can't, for their life, arrow through the options anymore. Well, at least it was what I was getting.
Then, don't know why, but as a last resort I tried to play with the window using NVDA in focus mode.
Guess what? It worked!
In fact, I believe it worked because now in this very same window you have a search field where you can type in parts of what you want to get, for example "priva" for privacy. But, this field actually is also a submenu!
No, you haven't read it wrong. It's a field and a submenu, as NVDA reports it.
I'll have to say, that's the first time I've seen something like that. Quite odd, if you ask me.

Well, all of this to say that, if you getting the same as I got, then justdo the NVDA focus mode thing or the equivalent on your screen reader, tab through the screen and then at some point you'll be able to arrow through the options like we are used to do.
 
Cheers,
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Re: with NVDA Microsoft EDGE (chrome)

Arlene
 

I can confirm this. I’ve seen this issue using Chrome.  I think this issue will Iron itself out.

 

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From: Ian Westerland
Sent: April 11, 2019 2:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] with NVDAMicrosoft EDGE (chrome)

 

 

 

Hello Curtis.  I have the same issue here.  When I load Chrome, NVDA

goes to sleep but works again when I re-load it.  It's a strange issue

because NVDA doesn't hang.  It just stops speaking.  I am sure that with

the current and rapid changes to Browsers, the issues will resolve soon.

 

Ian Westerland

 

 

 

On 4/12/2019 6:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

> Sometimes when alt-tabbing away and back to the screen of the browser,

> NVDA forgets it's environment, meaning that the buttons can't be

> navigated too with hot keys b and shift b, etc. When I reload NVDA, all

> is well again. :)

>

 

 

 


Re: The latest versions of NVDA will not install on my Acer Swift Notebook

Arlene
 

Hi, I did have it turned off until I got the programs I know and trust. Now I have it back on!  If I want to install something. I just turn it off.

 

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From: Joseph Norton
Sent: April 11, 2019 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The latest versions of NVDA will not install on my AcerSwift Notebook

 

Sorry for another old message, but, I do want to weigh in on something that was said here.

 

It is probably not a good idea to leave UAC (User Account Control) turned off.

 

If you download the wrong thing, or something infected that your virus-checker doesn’t know about, a program can run in “elevated” mode and make any change to your system.

 

According to Leo Laport, Ransomware is on the rise.

 

If you must turn UAC off, it is better to turn it off only to install a program you know is safe, then, after it installs, turn UAC back on.

 

Of course, it’s still a personal decision.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The latest versions of NVDA will not install on my Acer Swift Notebook

 

Since I have UAC shut off, alwyas have, I don't face that problem. Try shutting it off and see if tha tworks then turn it back on if yu really want it on. I do not so I don't.

On 27 Sep 2018, at 5:11, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Aside from the avenues others have suggested, once you start the install, on Windows 10, it will bring up a user account control dialog wanting you to confirm that you allow the program to make changes - that's nothing worrying about NVDA, it does that when you install ANY program.  The problem can be, sometimes it opens that dialog and seemingly puts it behind every other open window.  But, if you don't respond to it within 20 seconds or so, it closes, and the install fails.  Once you've told it to install, if you aren't given that dialog, press either ALT+TAB or ALT+SHIFT+TAB (when not on top, it's usually the last window) to find that UAC dialog.

 

Other than that, I can't think why 2018.2.1 would install and not anything later...

 

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:10 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Why would an earlier version of NVDA install and not this version?  It is really not logical to place bloatware or Avast, which is likely not even being used and which I have never heard blocks NVDA from being installed as likely reasons.  It's as though you have drawn up a list of programs you don't like and said, I don't like them so they are likely the problem. 

 

Is it possible that some program is preventing the installation?  Of course, all sorts of things are possible but the way to proceed is to get someone who has proper technical knowledge to look at whatever relevant logs should be looked at and not just categorically blame this or that program or broad meaningless class (bloatware) of program.

 

Gene

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:33 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] The latest versions of NVDA will not install on my Acer Swift Notebook

 

If this is the first time you have installed nvda and its a new machine. My
main finger of blame is that it needs a bloatware clean down session if not
a total reinstall.
 Avast is almost like a virus and seems to be on every large store purchased
machine just like Norton used to be, indeed some manufacturers fit it.
 There are also often  free trial versions of all sorts of rubbish
installed.
 Brian

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From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] The latest versions of NVDA will not install on my Acer
Swift Notebook


> The machine is running Windows 10 home, presumably a recent update. The
> last version that will install is 2018.2.1.
> Subsequent attempts to install end with the Windows error message
> instalation terminated by User. I have not taken any
> action
> since pressing the install button. The machine eventually returns to a
> normal window, but memory has been corrupted. I
> have to restart to get things to work normally.
>
> John
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>
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>
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Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Cearbhall,
I'm not Joseph, but let me answer your question :)
You can find the option to restart NVDA with all add-ons disabled on the exit dialog. I believe you know how to get there, though if you don't, it's NVDA+Q.
Another way of doing it is through the command line but I don't know the exact command.
I'm in a hurry now, but if nobody comes up with such a command, I can look it for you later on.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 11/04/2019 18:27, Cearbhall O'Meadhra disse:

Joseph,

 

How do I start with addons disabled?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

Another possibility: how about restarting with all add-ons turned off? That way we can figure out if this is an add-on problem (I have a hunch that it is one of my add-ons not working right for you, and if so, I’ll do something about it).

For others: this invalidates claims that the email client is to blame, although it might have something to do with it. We won’t find out until we go through troubleshooting steps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

You are right, Quentin did ask me to send a log last night but I am only now getting around to it. As I was looking for the keystroke to launch the log, I accidentally struck NVDA+7 on the PC keyboard and the bleeping stopped! I toggled NVDA+7 again and the bleeping came back again! 

 

NVDA keyboard help tells me that: NVDA+7 Toggles on and off the movement of the navigator object due to focus changes!.

 

Is this the answer to the problem? Can I enable this action without having to have the bleeps?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

I don’t know if anyone has asked for one, but can you send an NVDA log (set to input/output) so people can find out what’s causing it? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Thanks, Jim,

 

I did not know about that function.

 

However, it is not that setting as I have it at none and the list of emails is still beeping!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Doherty
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Cearbhall,

 

Try NVDA key and the letter u, you will get the options to either beep or voice and beeps or none, try none. It might work.

This is using a laptop the NVDA key is the cap lock key, not sure what it is on a desktop.

 

hth

Jim

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Sorry, Chris,

 

Sounds are turned off in Ease of access in Outlook Options!

 

Amuwau. Tjos os s[ecofoc to NVDA and does not occur with any other screen reader.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

That be in outlook options under ease of access section

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 11 April 2019 09:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to find out how to stop MVDA from beeping every time I press tab or arrow up or down in a list of emails in Outlook. I have turned off all mouse tracking in the settings menu but the beeping persists. Can anyone advise me what to do?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 



Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Gene
 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.
 
That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Joseph,

 

How do I start with addons disabled?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

Another possibility: how about restarting with all add-ons turned off? That way we can figure out if this is an add-on problem (I have a hunch that it is one of my add-ons not working right for you, and if so, I’ll do something about it).

For others: this invalidates claims that the email client is to blame, although it might have something to do with it. We won’t find out until we go through troubleshooting steps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

You are right, Quentin did ask me to send a log last night but I am only now getting around to it. As I was looking for the keystroke to launch the log, I accidentally struck NVDA+7 on the PC keyboard and the bleeping stopped! I toggled NVDA+7 again and the bleeping came back again! 

 

NVDA keyboard help tells me that: NVDA+7 Toggles on and off the movement of the navigator object due to focus changes!.

 

Is this the answer to the problem? Can I enable this action without having to have the bleeps?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

I don’t know if anyone has asked for one, but can you send an NVDA log (set to input/output) so people can find out what’s causing it? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Thanks, Jim,

 

I did not know about that function.

 

However, it is not that setting as I have it at none and the list of emails is still beeping!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Doherty
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Cearbhall,

 

Try NVDA key and the letter u, you will get the options to either beep or voice and beeps or none, try none. It might work.

This is using a laptop the NVDA key is the cap lock key, not sure what it is on a desktop.

 

hth

Jim

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Sorry, Chris,

 

Sounds are turned off in Ease of access in Outlook Options!

 

Amuwau. Tjos os s[ecofoc to NVDA and does not occur with any other screen reader.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

That be in outlook options under ease of access section

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 11 April 2019 09:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to find out how to stop MVDA from beeping every time I press tab or arrow up or down in a list of emails in Outlook. I have turned off all mouse tracking in the settings menu but the beeping persists. Can anyone advise me what to do?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: with NVDA Microsoft EDGE (chrome)

Ian Westerland
 

Hello Curtis. I have the same issue here. When I load Chrome, NVDA goes to sleep but works again when I re-load it. It's a strange issue because NVDA doesn't hang. It just stops speaking. I am sure that with the current and rapid changes to Browsers, the issues will resolve soon.

Ian Westerland

On 4/12/2019 6:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Sometimes when alt-tabbing away and back to the screen of the browser, NVDA forgets it's environment, meaning that the buttons can't be navigated too with hot keys b and shift b, etc. When I reload NVDA, all is well again. :)


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Which add-ons do you have installed? Have you tried restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled. The correct NVDA shortcut to bring up the log is NVDA+F1.