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Re: I see nvda 2019.1.1 is about to appear

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I see a forced version but no download today as yet.
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] I see nvda 2019.1.1 is about to appear


I can see the message but no file downloadable thus far.
I do have the RC though.
Brian

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Re: purchasing Kindle book using NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It can be, but I think a lot of people come at it with a bad taste from other lists, github is a case in point. I reckon I know what I'm doing but have little success at finding staringly obvious similar issues!
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] purchasing Kindle book using NVDA


On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 01:24 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


I think, Brian a lot of people read via email to try to keep away from the
web versions of lists, but thanks for the input.
That may be the case, but it makes a lot more sense to learn how to search the group archives to find content you know has been discussed. It's not hard to do, either, and generally proves to be a lot quicker if you teach yourself how to do it and know that something has been discussed.

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.*

~ Edward Abbey


Re: I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

I think that Interesting is one word for it.  Smile
 
I’ll tell you what I just did.  I created a portible copy of NVDA with a working laptop and put it on a thumb drive.  Then I put it in to a folder on the not working right, Dell.  Now I finally have NVDA on the Dell PC plus I can use the NVDA portible thumb drive anywhere.
 
Guess there’s more than one way to get the job done.  Its just so very weird...
 
Cheers,
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
 
I don't know anything about user profiles so I don't know if that is the problem.  But what I find interesting is that you don't even get to the point where NVDA is running for the talking install.  That is actually the portable version running, though you haven't yet approved the license and told it whether you want to keep running it, create a portable version, or install.  I wonder if a user profile would matter at such an early stage where it is running as a portable version to be used as a talking installer.  I don't have the technical knowledge to assess that question but, having said that, it doesn't sound plausible to me.  Maybe some others with enough technical knowledge to make a reasonable guess about the situation will comment further on this interesting problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 6:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
 
    Hi all,

I just got off the phone with the MS Disability Desk.  They are offering me
to options to get NVDA installed on my Dell laptop.  Change user profiles or
do a clean install.  So, unless someone tells me otherwise, I will just do
without NVDA on this particular machine for a few months.  Later, I will
consider a fresh install of Windows.  But, I got burned twice before when MS
changed user profiles on two of my PC's so I do not think I want to try for
a third time.  I would try it myself but it is a bit over my head...maybe a
lot over when it comes to know what and how to move everything over to the
new user profile.

Again, I am extremely grateful for so many people joining in to work toward
a solution.  And, this Dell will eventually get a fresh install.

All, have an awesome night,,

James B



-----Original Message-----
From: James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

First, the good news.  My Dell laptop made it through the Windows10 repair
and is snappier than ever.

Now, the bad.  I still can't get NVDA to install.

The first MS tech support person that I spoke with earlier today said that
she could create another user profile and install NVDA and I wouldn't need
to switch profiles.  Actually, I basically do not even understand  very much
about profiles but, I am about to call the MS  Disability Desk for the third
time today and try one more time for installing NVDA.

I'll post more information here later because so many of you spent so much
time on this.

Regards,

James B



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

Hi,   after I sent the mail I thought about it and thought that is what
you meant.   thanks for getting back.

On 09/04/2019 21:56, James Bentley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> MB is short for Malwarebytes.
>
> My laptop is running Windows repair right now.  Maybe about one hour
> before I find out if it is fixed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James B
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:46 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>
> Hi,   not sure what mb means?   anyway your idea about letting your
> machine to install apps from any where is the best idea I have seen yet.
>    let us know how you get on.   I think a complete reinstall of windows
> is maybe the way forward,   but I know it is a drastic step!   but now
> and again You have to just jump.   again good luck.
>
> On 09/04/2019 08:23, James Bentley wrote:
>> Hi, I just now saw this post.
>>
>> I was using Windows Defender + the latest version of Malwarebytes, the
>> paid version with real time protection.  I deleted the MB and the problem
>> still exist.  And, I'm still not clear on how to turn off Defender but
>> many list members have stated that they are certain that both Defender
>> and MB do not stop NVDA from downloading.  Maybe, there is a small chance
>> that I have messed up Defender, its menus or not at all friendly to me
>> but, I kind of doubt it.
>>
>> I would like to find the last version of NVDA so that I can try
>> installing it.  Then, I would try to update to the current version.  That
>> wouldn't resolve my problem but it would at least get NVDA on the system.
>>
>> I wonder why I can still download software from other sources.
>>
>> I have NVDA on my bedroom laptop and it works great.  But my living room
>> PC is right out of the Twilight Zone!
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 3:24 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>
>> Hi,   can you let us know what AV product your using?
>>
>> On 08/04/2019 04:23, James Bentley wrote:
>>> It looks like I am not getting the full download.  I would love to know
>>> why.
>>>
>>> In the mean time, I would definitely appreciate you drop boxing me the
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: hurrikennyandopo ...
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:53 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just downloaded the latest copy of it just then the server is up.I am
>>> guessing your copy is a full download? like mentioned in the previous
>>> email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If need be i can drop box the one i just downloaded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/04/2019 2:27 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>>>
>>>    I have downloaded it two times in the past with other laptops.  But,
>>> the first time for this laptop.
>>>
>>>    I do not get past the music.  No dialog  at all.  I did try alt+y
>>> just in case.
>>>
>>>    I have tried to save this and run it.  I have tried to just run it.
>>> Same results.
>>>
>>>    Maybe their server has been down for over one day.
>>>
>>>    The only thing that I have recently changed on my end is just that I
>>> upgraded to Jaws 2019 on both computers.  Of course, I tried J17 just in
>>> case.  No dice.
>>>
>>>    Cheers,
>>>
>>>    James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    From: hurrikennyandopo ...
>>>    Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:13 PM
>>>    To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>    Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>>
>>>    Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    is this the first time you have ever installed NVDA or have you had a
>>> earlier version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    the file that wouldive come down would be named nvda 2019.1.exe and
>>> when you click on it or try to get it to load it will make a musical
>>> sound then come up with a documentation screen. YOu will need to agree
>>> to it by pressing the space bar then tab to the first option which will
>>> be install to your computer then press the enter key. If it seems to be
>>> getting stuck installing it it might be that the UAC screen has come up
>>> and nvda can not see it if this is the case use the ALT key + letter Y
>>> to say yes to it and it should keep on installing then say it has been
>>> installed  with a ok button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Or is it just not going any further after you hear the sound?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 8/04/2019 1:45 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi all,
>>>
>>>      I went to:
>>>
>>>      http://www.nvaccess.org/
>>>
>>>      and downloaded a very small file that looks like it is suppose to
>>> install NVDA.  When I open it, I get a few seconds of music and then
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>      I have tried with both Chrome and IE for over 24 hours now.  So,
>>> maybe someone can tell me what I am doing wrong?
>>>
>>>      Cheers,
>>>
>>>      James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    --
>>>     Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>     Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of
>>> their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest
>>> to you please visit
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following link
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to
>>> use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>     To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to
>>> the following links. Software available
>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to
>>> start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>     To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification
>>> page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from
>>> around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
>>> exam.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




 




Re: Silent Install

Luke Thomson
 

It means that the installer should run silently in the background - so no windows popping up or any user interaction with the installer. It's very useful when deploying applications to managed machines as it prevents the user from interacting with the installation and potentially causing issues.


Re: Silent Install

Luke Thomson
 

To clarify - I don't use any apostrophes when running the command, that was just to format my post.

Whenever I try to run with that switch, a setup windows pops up saying 'Please wait while NVDA is being installed'.


Re: chrome

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I thought it was control l. I use that to get to the address bar of most browsers now.

Take care

On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Brian Vogel wrote:

In every browser, at least all that I've used, the ALT+D command throws focus to the omnibox/address bar with the contents of same selected for copying.

F6 doing the same thing in Firefox seems to be a Firefox specific use of the F6 key.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Thank you very much.  I did take note of the different addresses.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

I should say that there are two Genes.  The other Gene has an address very different than mine.  Mine has Gene in the name and I don't recall what the other one is.  But it’s the other Gene Who did the tutorial and administers the site on which his and other tutorials are available.

 

I don't know if I can answer your question.  I don't know if work stations are worked with the same way as individual computers but on an individual computer, I would insert the flash drive, use computer or Windows Explorer to open the flash drive with Narrator running, and find and run the NVDA.exe file. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Gene
 

I should say that there are two Genes.  The other Gene has an address very different than mine.  Mine has Gene in the name and I don't recall what the other one is.  But it’s the other Gene Who did the tutorial and administers the site on which his and other tutorials are available.
 
I don't know if I can answer your question.  I don't know if work stations are worked with the same way as individual computers but on an individual computer, I would insert the flash drive, use computer or Windows Explorer to open the flash drive with Narrator running, and find and run the NVDA.exe file. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

Gene
 

I don't know anything about user profiles so I don't know if that is the problem.  But what I find interesting is that you don't even get to the point where NVDA is running for the talking install.  That is actually the portable version running, though you haven't yet approved the license and told it whether you want to keep running it, create a portable version, or install.  I wonder if a user profile would matter at such an early stage where it is running as a portable version to be used as a talking installer.  I don't have the technical knowledge to assess that question but, having said that, it doesn't sound plausible to me.  Maybe some others with enough technical knowledge to make a reasonable guess about the situation will comment further on this interesting problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

    Hi all,

I just got off the phone with the MS Disability Desk.  They are offering me
to options to get NVDA installed on my Dell laptop.  Change user profiles or
do a clean install.  So, unless someone tells me otherwise, I will just do
without NVDA on this particular machine for a few months.  Later, I will
consider a fresh install of Windows.  But, I got burned twice before when MS
changed user profiles on two of my PC's so I do not think I want to try for
a third time.  I would try it myself but it is a bit over my head...maybe a
lot over when it comes to know what and how to move everything over to the
new user profile.

Again, I am extremely grateful for so many people joining in to work toward
a solution.  And, this Dell will eventually get a fresh install.

All, have an awesome night,,

James B



-----Original Message-----
From: James Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

First, the good news.  My Dell laptop made it through the Windows10 repair
and is snappier than ever.

Now, the bad.  I still can't get NVDA to install.

The first MS tech support person that I spoke with earlier today said that
she could create another user profile and install NVDA and I wouldn't need
to switch profiles.  Actually, I basically do not even understand  very much
about profiles but, I am about to call the MS  Disability Desk for the third
time today and try one more time for installing NVDA.

I'll post more information here later because so many of you spent so much
time on this.

Regards,

James B



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

Hi,   after I sent the mail I thought about it and thought that is what
you meant.   thanks for getting back.

On 09/04/2019 21:56, James Bentley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> MB is short for Malwarebytes.
>
> My laptop is running Windows repair right now.  Maybe about one hour
> before I find out if it is fixed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James B
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:46 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>
> Hi,   not sure what mb means?   anyway your idea about letting your
> machine to install apps from any where is the best idea I have seen yet.
>    let us know how you get on.   I think a complete reinstall of windows
> is maybe the way forward,   but I know it is a drastic step!   but now
> and again You have to just jump.   again good luck.
>
> On 09/04/2019 08:23, James Bentley wrote:
>> Hi, I just now saw this post.
>>
>> I was using Windows Defender + the latest version of Malwarebytes, the
>> paid version with real time protection.  I deleted the MB and the problem
>> still exist.  And, I'm still not clear on how to turn off Defender but
>> many list members have stated that they are certain that both Defender
>> and MB do not stop NVDA from downloading.  Maybe, there is a small chance
>> that I have messed up Defender, its menus or not at all friendly to me
>> but, I kind of doubt it.
>>
>> I would like to find the last version of NVDA so that I can try
>> installing it.  Then, I would try to update to the current version.  That
>> wouldn't resolve my problem but it would at least get NVDA on the system.
>>
>> I wonder why I can still download software from other sources.
>>
>> I have NVDA on my bedroom laptop and it works great.  But my living room
>> PC is right out of the Twilight Zone!
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 3:24 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>
>> Hi,   can you let us know what AV product your using?
>>
>> On 08/04/2019 04:23, James Bentley wrote:
>>> It looks like I am not getting the full download.  I would love to know
>>> why.
>>>
>>> In the mean time, I would definitely appreciate you drop boxing me the
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: hurrikennyandopo ...
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:53 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just downloaded the latest copy of it just then the server is up.I am
>>> guessing your copy is a full download? like mentioned in the previous
>>> email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If need be i can drop box the one i just downloaded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/04/2019 2:27 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>>>
>>>    I have downloaded it two times in the past with other laptops.  But,
>>> the first time for this laptop.
>>>
>>>    I do not get past the music.  No dialog  at all.  I did try alt+y
>>> just in case.
>>>
>>>    I have tried to save this and run it.  I have tried to just run it.
>>> Same results.
>>>
>>>    Maybe their server has been down for over one day.
>>>
>>>    The only thing that I have recently changed on my end is just that I
>>> upgraded to Jaws 2019 on both computers.  Of course, I tried J17 just in
>>> case.  No dice.
>>>
>>>    Cheers,
>>>
>>>    James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    From: hurrikennyandopo ...
>>>    Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:13 PM
>>>    To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>    Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
>>>
>>>    Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    is this the first time you have ever installed NVDA or have you had a
>>> earlier version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    the file that wouldive come down would be named nvda 2019.1.exe and
>>> when you click on it or try to get it to load it will make a musical
>>> sound then come up with a documentation screen. YOu will need to agree
>>> to it by pressing the space bar then tab to the first option which will
>>> be install to your computer then press the enter key. If it seems to be
>>> getting stuck installing it it might be that the UAC screen has come up
>>> and nvda can not see it if this is the case use the ALT key + letter Y
>>> to say yes to it and it should keep on installing then say it has been
>>> installed  with a ok button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Or is it just not going any further after you hear the sound?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 8/04/2019 1:45 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi all,
>>>
>>>      I went to:
>>>
>>>      http://www.nvaccess.org/
>>>
>>>      and downloaded a very small file that looks like it is suppose to
>>> install NVDA.  When I open it, I get a few seconds of music and then
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>      I have tried with both Chrome and IE for over 24 hours now.  So,
>>> maybe someone can tell me what I am doing wrong?
>>>
>>>      Cheers,
>>>
>>>      James B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    --
>>>     Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
>>>     Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of
>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of
>>> their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest
>>> to you please visit
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following link
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to
>>> use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link
>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
>>>     To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to
>>> the following links. Software available
>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to
>>> start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
>>>     To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the
>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification
>>> page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from
>>> around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
>>> exam.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




 




Re: chrome

Gene
 

Some people may be interested in this.  It is somewhat minutia, but the kind of minutia that may interest some people.
 
In Internet Explorer, the open dialog, control o or control l, is separate from the address bar.  In Chrome and firefox, there is no open dialog and the address bar, f6 control d, control l, is the same.  In other words, you get to the same place with all these commands.  But in Internet Explorer, control d and f6 take you to the address bar.  Control o or control l take you to the open dialog, where you don't see the address of the page you are on.  You have to use f6 or control d to see the page in the address bar.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome

Good, that works.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: April-09-19 3:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome

 

Also the CTRL key + letter L will jump you to the location bar. I use it all the time in different browsers.

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 9:27 AM, Andy wrote:

Try ALT-D.

 

Andy

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 2:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] chrome

 

Hi list,

 

I am using win 7 with nvda and latest chrome.

When I use I e and firefox, I can press f6 and have the address bar highlighted so I can copy and paste it.

When I press f6  in chrome, I land on various things but not the address bar of the current page.

How do I do this.

 

Thanks,

Monte

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Yes, Gene, that does make sense, and my thinking was along the same as yours, that the drive may be an E drive.  On my own computer, depending on the USB port I use, I have had labels of E, F, or G.

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Hi

 

Since you say you might be floating from pc to pc where most computers have a c: drive hard drive d: drive usually a dvd burner it is usually the E drive when plugged i.

 

The easiest way is either change the letter each time until it starts.

 

if you do not know start up narrator then locate the usb drive then locate the nvda.exe file on the usb stick then press the enter key then close down  narrator.

 

The other way i like doing it is labeling the usb stick. for example qqq then have the nvda files put onto the usb stick.

 

but doing it that way also depends how they have it setup. Like when you press the windows key + letter E then file explorer comes up if it gives you a list of folders and shows all of your drives then it is a matter of just pressing the letter Q it will take you to the usb stick press the enter key now you are inside of the usb stick then press the letter N and it should land on the nvda.exe file then press the enter key and it should start up.

 

If it is the other screen I can not think what it is called quick access where it shows your latest files etc then you will need to shift/ tab once it will put you in a tree view press the letter T for this pc then press the enter key I can not remember if you have to tab once then press the letter Q it should land you on the usb stick press the enter key then press the letter N for the nvda.exe file then press the enter key and you will be up and running.

 

any how there are different ways but the narrator one would be the best for a new user to get started with nvda on  a totally new machine.

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 12:09 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Re: Autorun for the portable version?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Since you say you might be floating from pc to pc where most computers have a c: drive hard drive d: drive usually a dvd burner it is usually the E drive when plugged i.


The easiest way is either change the letter each time until it starts.


if you do not know start up narrator then locate the usb drive then locate the nvda.exe file on the usb stick then press the enter key then close down  narrator.


The other way i like doing it is labeling the usb stick. for example qqq then have the nvda files put onto the usb stick.


but doing it that way also depends how they have it setup. Like when you press the windows key + letter E then file explorer comes up if it gives you a list of folders and shows all of your drives then it is a matter of just pressing the letter Q it will take you to the usb stick press the enter key now you are inside of the usb stick then press the letter N and it should land on the nvda.exe file then press the enter key and it should start up.


If it is the other screen I can not think what it is called quick access where it shows your latest files etc then you will need to shift/ tab once it will put you in a tree view press the letter T for this pc then press the enter key I can not remember if you have to tab once then press the letter Q it should land you on the usb stick press the enter key then press the letter N for the nvda.exe file then press the enter key and you will be up and running.


any how there are different ways but the narrator one would be the best for a new user to get started with nvda on  a totally new machine.


Gene nz


On 10/04/2019 12:09 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: How to enable playing videos etc. with FF 66 using NVDA?

 

I believe the topic you're recalling is:  Youtube in Firefox don't automatically plays video after loading Youtube
--

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Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: How to enable playing videos etc. with FF 66 using NVDA?

Ejaz Shah
 

In the Privacy & Security tab, "Block web sites from automatically playing sound" check box.

On 10/04/2019 3:46 am, Lino Morales wrote:

I know this was discussed last week I believe. Where do I enable this? I’ve been around the mulberry bush AKA the options and can’t find anything related to allowing videos to play. Thanks.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Okay, thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Best way is probably to turn on Narrator and find your USB drive and then navigate to the NVDA folder and to NVDA.exe. Then hit enter and then exit narrator.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/9/2019 7:09 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


 


Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Roger Stewart
 

Best way is probably to turn on Narrator and find your USB drive and then navigate to the NVDA folder and to NVDA.exe. Then hit enter and then exit narrator.
Roger








On 4/9/2019 7:09 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Re: I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Looks like I will need to do some research.  When I get the time, I will do so and then come back here for assistance.
 
I do get to use NVDA on my bedroom PC.  Eventually, I suspect that many users will be using Narrator with both Jaws and NVDA.  Narrator in 1809 is improved again and just look at NVDA go.  I love lots of choices.  Good for everyone.
 
Brian, thanks for your post and your efforts on this list.
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Can't get the latest version of NVDA to install
 
James,

          I find it to be a far easier option to create a new user account on the machine, copy over user data from the account that has the problematic profile, then nuke that original account.

          If the problematic account is a Microsoft Account Linked account, then create a local account with admin privileges initially then, after copying everything over and deleting the initial account, you can convert that local account to a Microsoft Account Linked account that uses the same Microsoft Account as the original.

         I have never liked "profile fixes" and far prefer a clean slate with a new user account (and that was before Windows 10, too).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: Code Factory Blues

Larry Wang
 

It seems that your voice setting isn't saved after you change them.

Did you choose to save settings automatically when NVDA exits? Did you save settings after changing voice?

On 2019/4/10 5:34, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Gene and All:

I want to change the voice since the Code Factory Eloquence I remember is close to the                 JAWS Eloquence which is both good and bad.  The good part is that it is familiar and the bad is that I'm still at the point with NVDA where I have to switch back to JAWS to get something done quickly or the differences and having to concentrate instead of muscle memory get to me and I need to change.  If I leave the computer, I have to do the JAWS read current line to tell which synth I was using.

Also, I understand that by clicking on I agree to the Code Factory license agreement, I gave them the right to do their monthly probe or however often they issue it.  I wish they could do it without changing my chosen voice.  Yes, registering is free, but my memory is that it is not easy and involves having to dig up codes to plunk down in the appropriate places.

If I load             NVDA and do     NVDA key plus Control-S, I land on Sapi 5 with a male voice.  My memory is that I thought the Microsoft voice I had was female and Sapi 4 which was more understandable for me than eSpeak. Whatever voice I'm on now is also better than eSpeak.

I thought I remembered that there was somewhere in the NVDA menu where one can listen to the installed voices, but I haven't found it yet.

I got         NVDA updated to the current version and I'm running 64 bit Windows 7 Home.

I apologize to the list since this is not a good time to try to learn something new, but every time I've run into a bad patch and have had to stop and think I'll resume at a better time, there hasn't been a better one and I've reached the conclusion there isn't going to be.

Thanks to everyone for their patience.

Margaret
On 4/5/2019 2:00 PM, Gene wrote:
First, why do you want to find another voice if all you need to do is reregister the Code Factory Voice, especially if you want Eloquence?  As far as I know, registration is free.  I believe, though you can check, that if you run NVDA once a month with the voice, you will remain registered.  So just running it for a moment with the Eloquence voice should be all you need to do.
As far as changing to the Microsoft voice on your computer is concerned, are you using the SAPI version of Eloquence or the Add-on?  It may affect how you run the Microsoft voice.  I'm not sure I can tell you just how to switch but answering my question may make it easier for you to find out.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Margaret Thomas <mailto:iluvtoread@cox.net>
*Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2019 11:26 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Code Factory Blues

Hi, All:

I'm once again trying to learn NVDA after many years as a JAWS user
running 64 bit Windows 7 Home.

One of my problems is that my attempts keep being interrupted by one
thing or another and I have to start virtually all over from scratch.  I
purchased a couple of Code Factory voices  with one being an Eloquence
that sounds reasonably like the Eloquence with JAWS that I'm used to.
Apparently, I upset Code Factory by not loading NVDA frequently enough
for them since the voice switched to something else from Eloquence that
it had been on the last time I used NVDA and I apparently have to
re-register the Code Factory voice again.  This will be the third time
and I'll be in search of another synthesizer since I have a problem
understanding eSpeak or whatever the current one is.  Could someone
please remind me how to find out what the current one is? During one of
my previous attempts, I found that the SAPI voice for Win 7 was easier
to understand than eSpeak, but can't remember how to switch. Could some
kind person please provide instructions?

I'll check out voices again when I can get NVDA more understandable, but
does anyone know if there has been anything new other than from Code
Factory in the last several months that works with Win 7?

I seem to be running NVDA 2018.1.1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret



Re: Autorun for the portable version?

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Remind me again, if I don’t know the drive letter, for instance if I have a position that requires  a floating work station, how again would I activate my portable copy?

 

I will check out your tutorials probably tomorrow or the next day for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

You can only use the run command if you know the letter of the drive that is the flash drive.  On an unfamiliar computer, you won't know.  Once you find out, unless it changes, you can use the run command but you need to know how to run NVDA in a method such as I described unless you are always using a computer you definitely know the letter on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:04 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

Gene, this is perfect.  Thanks so much.  Just what I was looking for.  I could do the run command from a system requiring no speech for that.

 

I am saving this e-mail for my records.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Judy

I am running Windows 10.

 

Judy

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Autorun for the portable version?

 

hi

 

There used to be able to do it but i think that stopped back in windows 7.

 

There are other ways of starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on another persons computer.

 

Which version of windows are you running?

 

I do have some tutorials on starting nvda from a USB stick or Cd on my website if you are interested they are on the nvda audio tutorials page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

When you get there jump down by headings until you get to the sections mentioning USB or CD.

 

I do have one written up not posted but it covered making a portable version of NVDA then starting it on windows 10. At the time it is nvda 2019.1 and version 1809 of Windows.

 

But you could try the following also on your computer but will not work on log on screen.

 If you put the portable contents of nvda on to a USB stick unplug it from your computer then plug it back in.

 

then press the windows key + letter R and in the run dialogue box type E:nvda then press the enter key and then it should start up.

 

To make sure it is that version when i had it running on the usb stick i changed the voice from the other one that i was using.

 

not sure if it works on earlier versions of Windows that way I do not think it did.

 

that one might get posted in the next day or so?

 

 

Gene nz

 

On 10/04/2019 8:27 AM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

 

I now have the portable version on a thumb drive, but is it possible to get NVDA to start when inserting the drive?  If so, how?

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Microsoft Chromium version of the Edge browser beta download

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

I downloaded the canary version of the program. Is this the right one?
Thanks,

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Chromium version of the Edge browser beta
download

Hi, yes very well done Microsoft not ready to go over yet completely
but might at some later point.

On 09/04/2019 01:33, Lino Morales wrote:
Hi Brise. Its for anyone running Win 10. It ricks!



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10





________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brice
Mijares <bricemijares@att.net>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 8:32:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Chromium version of the Edge browser
beta download

is this strictly for the insider program? Or anyone running win ten?

On 4/8/2019 11:24 AM, dingpengyu wrote:
download link:
https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download