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Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

 

Quentin,
I do have a laptop which was supposed to have a numpad. Nowadays, it's not working.
So, with this new proposal, would I lose all the functionalities related to object navigation?
If so, I'd imagine that the proposal for a hybrid layout is more desirable, especially for me because this way I don't lose access to all of this.

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Em 08/05/2019 21:11, Quentin Christensen disse:

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have created an issue on GitHub:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549 

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL keyboard layouts.

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running, the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate navigation keys).

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation / review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Please: I have just updated Weather_Plus to 6.2 version.

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi again to every one,
Note please: I have just updated to 6.2 version.
I added a piece of code that strangely with all the passages and was lost and that allowed to recover the cities created with Apixu.
I also added the "Palestine" state which a user sent me via a function which I introduced in the add-on and which signals unregistered states.
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.2.nvda-addon
@Joseph, I tested it withnvdapy37-20190228, it's ok.
p.s.
I am about to leave and I come back Monday.

Regards
Adriano


Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Quentin Christensen
 

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have created an issue on GitHub:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549 

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL keyboard layouts.

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running, the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate navigation keys).

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation / review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: key assignments in NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Luke,

Actually yes and no - The main point of Laptop keyboard layout is, as you note, the assumption that you don't have a number pad, hence moving the keys around to accomodate that fact.

When laptop layout was created, it wasn't made as a whole, every key defined from scratch layout, but rather was more like a series of "exceptions" from the regular (desktop) layout.

That the desktop object navigation keys got left set for "all" layouts rather than desktop layout only, was essentially an oversight.  I've seen it come up a couple of times, and when we discussed it this week, we agreed there is a use case for using laptop keyboard layout and still wanting access to the number pad for navigation (as per the original post that started this thread).

I'll post a new thread shortly with my proposed solution for comment.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:24 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Personally, I thought the whole point of laptop layout, was that it assumed you
had no number pad or conventional six pack.  Else why the differentiation
between laptop and desktop?  That is the primary difference between keyboard
types--the lack of a number pad.  I always either buy large laptops with number
pads, or I use external keyboards on my smaller laptops without them, so have
never learned or much used laptop layout.

So I'm saying I had always assumed (wrongly, it seems) that laptop layout would
act as if you had no numpad as far as the screen reader was concerned, which
would leave any numpad you do have to function as it would by default.
That seems the most logical arrangement to me.

Luke


  On Tue, 7 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

> I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have
> NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like
> being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?
> Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but
> if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
>       Hi Quentin,
>
>       As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same
>       desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by
>       default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the
>       NUMPAD using object navigation keys.
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

Luke Davis
 

On Wed, 8 May 2019, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

This change sounds like a good idea to me. If the chat group email address is going to be chat@nvda.groups.io, why not make the main group's email have the
@nvda.groups.io as well?
It already does. The current address is either nvda@nvda.groups.io, or just simply nvda@groups.io.


Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

 

This change sounds like a good idea to me. If the chat group email address is going to be chat@nvda.groups.io, why not make the main group's email have the @nvda.groups.io as well?


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Re: Problems With My Computer Keyboard

Luke Davis
 

Have you tried just turning on NVDA keyboard describer mode (NVDA-1), and pressing some of the upper row buttons on your laptop keyboard, usually the ones on the right hand side? One of them should show up as numlock. If none do, find your FN key, which is usually one of the keys to the left of your space bar, or at the bottom left of the keyboard. It will be the one that isn't control, windows, or alt. Find that FN key, hold it down, and try those upper right keys again until you find numlock.

After you figure out what key, or key combination with FN, is the numlock, turn off key describer mode, and press that key/key combination. If it doesn't help, press it again. If that doesn't help, try pressing it/them with shift.

I suggest trying this while in notepad or the like, so you can actually be entering text somewhere.

It is possible, though unlikely I should think, that the numlock on your laptop keyboard is not synchronized to the numlock on your external keyboard. I have only rarely actually seen that behavior, and never with a normal external keyboard only with standalone numpads, but I imagine there might be a circumstance where this happens in some od configuration of laptop.

Hth

Luke

On Tue, 7 May 2019, Jackie wrote:

You've got your numlock pressed, it sounds like. I have no idea where
it is on your keyboard, (that tends to be very nonstandard from 1
keyboard to another) so I'm not much help that way, but if you've got
a sighted person around, that key often lights up. Also, you might
want to go to the eas of access center & turn on toggle keys; that way
numlock should beep when pressed either off or on.

On 5/7/19, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi good people:
I am having problems with my computer keyboard, and not with NVDA.
My keyboard is malfunctioning. Some keys are just not functioning
normally.
For instance the letters J K L now types 1 2 3 U I L now types 4 5 6,
letter M now types 0 letter P now types * the slash key now types +.
Added to this some keys are not just working at all: the letter z key
is no longer working. When I press the letter A with the capital
letter, it doesn't get capitalised.
This is a problem peculiar to the keyboard on my laptop computer. I
am using an external keyboard to write this mail.
Please has any one had this problem before? how did you get around it,
or how was it resolved.
Or does anyone understand what the problem is and how it can be fixed.
I use an acer laptop computer. It has nothing to do with the
operating system, because as I said earlier, I am using an external
keyboard without any issues.
Hope to read a solution.
Ibrahim.





Re: key assignments in NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Personally, I thought the whole point of laptop layout, was that it assumed you had no number pad or conventional six pack. Else why the differentiation between laptop and desktop? That is the primary difference between keyboard types--the lack of a number pad. I always either buy large laptops with number pads, or I use external keyboards on my smaller laptops without them, so have never learned or much used laptop layout.

So I'm saying I had always assumed (wrongly, it seems) that laptop layout would act as if you had no numpad as far as the screen reader was concerned, which would leave any numpad you do have to function as it would by default.
That seems the most logical arrangement to me.

Luke

On Tue, 7 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have
NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like
being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?
Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but
if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.
Quentin.
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same
desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by
default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the
NUMPAD using object navigation keys.
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Re: NVDA and issue with Zoom

 

I reported it to zoom's accessibility team, but I still think you should report it also because, yes, I can duplicate it.


Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the problem if using object navigation doesn't solve it.  I don't think it will help but you can try maximizing or restoring the window, whatever is opposite to what it is now.
 
Gene
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From: J.G
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

excuse me for not being clear enough.

I checked object navigation and screen review and she has nvda set on object navigation (object review). also tried with changing a review with same results.

This sentence is my reply to your suggestions.

due to I cannot find button for attachments on a web interface of this group I am post in a log here in message body. hope, it will help.

And here I wrote, why a log is pasted in a message body. It is not related to the problem, it is only a commentary, because someone was writing months ago about pasting and/or attaching nvda logs.

hope, that I'm clearer now.

Again, log represents, what happens, when arrow key is pressed in message list and shows an unspecified error.

thanks for your effort to help me.

regards, Jožef


Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

 

Currently, what happens if we send the messages to nvda@groups.io?
Hmmm going to test it.
If nvda@groups.io is a valid address I don't think it's necessary to change because nvda@groups.io is easier to type than main@nvda.groups.io.
Let's see if it's sent. If it is, then the address is working.

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Em 08/05/2019 15:15, David Moore disse:

Hi
I agree with what you want to do regarding changing the address to main@nvda.groups.io I like that idea of having nvda appear once in the address. You have my vote on that! Take care Neimer! David Moore


On Wed, May 8, 2019, 1:38 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@... wrote:
hello everyone,

I am considering a change to the posting address to this list. I would like to change the posting address from what it is now, nvda@nvda.groups.io to main@nvda.groups.io. I would like to do this because we have a chat list, and this is the main group. I also want to do this because it means that new users don't have to type nvda twice to reach the list. thoughts on this can be sent to the owner email address at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

thanks.

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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

J.G
 

Hello,

excuse me for not being clear enough.

I checked object navigation and screen review and she has nvda set on object navigation (object review). also tried with changing a review with same results.

This sentence is my reply to your suggestions.

due to I cannot find button for attachments on a web interface of this group I am post in a log here in message body. hope, it will help.

And here I wrote, why a log is pasted in a message body. It is not related to the problem, it is only a commentary, because someone was writing months ago about pasting and/or attaching nvda logs.

hope, that I'm clearer now.

Again, log represents, what happens, when arrow key is pressed in message list and shows an unspecified error.

thanks for your effort to help me.

regards, Jožef


Can I use NVDA portable to install Windows 7 from scratch?

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Greetings to all,
 
I wonder if I can use NVDA that is on a bootable Windows PE to install Windows 7?
 
If not, can I do this with the Narrator that comes with Windows 7?  If so, what keystrokes start up Narrator in 7?
 
Any and all suggestions and steps will be greatly appreciated.
 
Regards,
 
James B
 


Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

David Moore
 

Hi
I agree with what you want to do regarding changing the address to main@nvda.groups.io I like that idea of having nvda appear once in the address. You have my vote on that! Take care Neimer! David Moore


On Wed, May 8, 2019, 1:38 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@... wrote:
hello everyone,

I am considering a change to the posting address to this list. I would like to change the posting address from what it is now, nvda@nvda.groups.io to main@nvda.groups.io. I would like to do this because we have a chat list, and this is the main group. I also want to do this because it means that new users don't have to type nvda twice to reach the list. thoughts on this can be sent to the owner email address at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

thanks.

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Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

hello everyone,

I am considering a change to the posting address to this list. I would like to change the posting address from what it is now, nvda@nvda.groups.io to main@nvda.groups.io. I would like to do this because we have a chat list, and this is the main group. I also want to do this because it means that new users don't have to type nvda twice to reach the list. thoughts on this can be sent to the owner email address at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

thanks.

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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

Also, it isn't clear what you are asking.  Your subject line talks about Outlook and your message says there is no attachments button in the web interface for this list.  I addressed the Web Interface question.  If you are asking how to find the attachments button in Outlook, it may be that there has to be an attachment.  Send the person a message with an attachment, then look for the button.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: J.G
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

I checked objectnavigation and screen review and she has nvda set on object navigation (object review). also tried with changing a review with same results. due I cannot find button for attachments on a web interfaceof this group I am postin a log here in message body. hope, it will help.

----- beginning of log -----

INFO - __main__ (14:09:55.174):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.471):
Config dir: C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:09:55.471):
Loading config: C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:09:55.503):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{u'schemaVersion': u'2', u'development': {u'enableScratchpadDir': u'False'}, u'upgrade': {}, u'update': {u'allowUsageStats': u'True', u'askedAllowUsageStats': u'True', u'autoCheck': u'True', u'startupNotification': u'True'}, u'general': {u'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': u'False', u'language': u'Windows', u'saveConfigurationOnExit': u'True', u'askToExit': u'True', u'playStartAndExitSounds': u'True', u'loggingLevel': u'DEBUG'}, u'speech': {u'synth': u'sapi5', u'outputDevice': u'Microsoft Sound Mapper', u'oneCore': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech_OneCore\\Voices\\Tokens\\MSTTS_V110_slSI_Lado', u'volume': u'100'}, u'sapi5': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\eBraRenato', u'volume': u'100'}}, u'braille': {u'noBraille': {u'port': u''}}, u'keyboard': {u'speakCommandKeys': u'False', u'speakTypedWords': u'True'}, u'presentation': {u'reportTooltips': u'True', u'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': u'True'}, u'uwpOcr': {u'language': u'sl'}, u'documentFormatting': {u'autoLanguageSwitching': u'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:55.706):
setting language to Windows
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
NVDA version 2019.1.1
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:55.767):
Initializing add-ons system
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.775):
Listing add-ons from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.775):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.775):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Found add-on addonUpdater - 19.05. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.779):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Found add-on focusHighlight - 5.6. Requires API: (2014, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.785):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\outlookExtended
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Found add-on outlookExtended - 1.1. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Disabling add-on outlookExtended
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.789):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Found add-on remote - 2.2. Requires API: (0, 0, 0). Last-tested API: (0, 0, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.789):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.795):
Found add-on wintenApps - 19.05. Requires API: (2018, 4, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 2, 0)
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:09:55.983):
No touch devices found
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.181):
Initializing appModule Handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:56.181):
Addon wintenApps added to appModules package path
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.181):
Initializing NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.303):
Speech Dictionary processing
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
file 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic' not found.
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
Loading speech dictionary 'builtin.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.313):
3 loaded records.
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.313):
Initializing speech
WARNING - stdout (14:09:56.313):
hooked waveOutOpen
WARNING - stdout (14:09:56.313):
hooked waveOutClose
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:57.348):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\sapi5\sapi5-Renato eBralec.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:57.348):
file 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\sapi5\sapi5-Renato eBralec.dic' not found.
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (14:09:57.348):
Loaded synthDriver sapi5
DEBUGWARNING - core.main (14:09:57.348):
Slow starting core (5.08 sec)
IO - speech.speak (14:09:57.348):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Nalaganje NVDA. Prosimo, po\u010dakajte...']
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale (14:09:57.348):
No CLDR data for locale sl_SI
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:09:57.943):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
INFO - core.main (14:09:57.951):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.960):
Initializing braille input
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (14:09:57.960):
Braille input initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.960):
Initializing braille
INFO - braille.initialize (14:09:57.960):
Using liblouis version 3.8.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (14:09:57.970):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.970):
Initializing displayModel
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.970):
Initializing GUI
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
initializing Java Access Bridge support
WARNING - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Java Access Bridge not available
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Initializing winConsole support
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Initializing UIA support
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (14:09:58.032):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.877):
Initializing IAccessible support
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.880):
Initializing input core
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (14:09:58.880):
No user gesture map
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.880):
Initializing keyboard handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.887):
initializing mouse handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.937):
Initializing touchHandler
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:09:58.937):
No touch devices found
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.937):
Initializing global plugin handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon addonUpdater added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon focusHighlight added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon remote added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon wintenApps added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:58.950):
W10: adding additional events
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:58.997):
W10: added event ID 20036, assigned to UIA_activeTextPositionChanged
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.062):
W10: added event ID 20026, assigned to UIA_dragStart
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.134):
W10: added event ID 20027, assigned to UIA_dragCancel
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.201):
W10: added event ID 20028, assigned to UIA_dragComplete
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.201):
W10: adding class name Popup to known dialog class names
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (14:09:59.221):
C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\configuration.py:5: DeprecationWarning: Importing validate directly is deprecated. Please use configobj.validate instead
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.526):
Initializing core pump
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.526):
Initializing watchdog
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.561):
initializing updateCheck
INFO - core.main (14:09:59.598):
NVDA initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.598):
entering wx application main loop
IO - speech.speak (14:10:00.338):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Opravilna vrstica']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:00.338):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
INFO - external:globalPlugins.remoteClient.GlobalPlugin.on_connected_as_slave (14:10:00.888):
Control connector connected
IO - speech.speak (14:10:00.891):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Povezano z nadzornim stre\u017enikom']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:00.891):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.000):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.042):
Beep at pitch 1000, for 300 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.223):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.428):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:02.273):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:02.513):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Programi, ki se izvajajo  orodna vrstica']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:02.513):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:02.533):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Google Chrome  gumb  1 od 5']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:02.533):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:03.375):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Google Chrome  zaslonski namig']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:03.375):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:03.936):
Input: kb(desktop):leftArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:04.029):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Outlook 2016 \u2013 \u0161tevilo odprtih oken: 1  gumb  podMeni  4 od 5']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:04.035):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:04.904):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.170):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Prejeto \u2013 nada.jazbec59@... - Outlook']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.176):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.266):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Pogled tabele  tabela']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.266):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.312):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes  razvr\u0161\u010danje v skupino  Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes  ozna\u010deno  razprto  vrstica 1  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.322):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:06.062):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:06.864):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:07.835):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1585 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:07.881):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:08.838):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1610 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:09.338):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:09.355):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:09.355):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:10.359):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.493):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'NUIDocumentWindow']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.500):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.598):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Priljubljene  drevesni pogled']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.598):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.638):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'nivo 2  Prejeto']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.638):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:11.552):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:11.658):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Pogled tabele  tabela']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:11.658):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:11.678):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: V\u010deraj  razvr\u0161\u010danje v skupino  razprto  vrstica 4  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:11.684):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:13.717):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u's prilogo Od Hana Premrl, Zadeva [Utzo.lur] \u0160ivanje, Prejeto pon. 15:27, Velikost 4 MB,  vrstica 5  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:13.720):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:13.730):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.184):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395150, objectID 1616 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.200):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395150, objectID 1617 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.358):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395160, objectID 1618 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.358):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395160, objectID 1619 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.405):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1620 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.427):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1621 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.513):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 525542, objectID 1622 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.513):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 525542, objectID 1623 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.528):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1644 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.528):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1645 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.543):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1647 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.543):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1648 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.559):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1650 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.559):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1651 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:15.085):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:15.835):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.084):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1696 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.115):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1697 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.115):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1698 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.283):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1700 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.299):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1701 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.569):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1708 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.569):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1709 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.615):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1711 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.631):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1712 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.917):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 722796, objectID 1714 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.917):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 722796, objectID 1715 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.933):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1743 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.933):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1744 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.970):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1746 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.970):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1747 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.986):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1749 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.986):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1750 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:17.418):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+n
IO - speech.speak (14:10:17.618):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'NVDA  meni']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:17.618):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:18.410):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:18.480):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Izbire  podMeni  i']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:18.490):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:19.375):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:19.426):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Orodja  podMeni  o']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:19.426):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:20.177):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:10:20.279):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Preglej dnevnik  1 od 9']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:20.279):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:21.196):
Input: kb(desktop):enter

----- ending of log -----

thanks again.

regards, Jožef


Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

The list, as most lists, doesn't allow attachments.  I don't know if a button is available for that function since I don't know if group moderators can enable it but for most groups, the question is moot anyway.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: J.G
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

I checked objectnavigation and screen review and she has nvda set on object navigation (object review). also tried with changing a review with same results. due I cannot find button for attachments on a web interfaceof this group I am postin a log here in message body. hope, it will help.

----- beginning of log -----

INFO - __main__ (14:09:55.174):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.471):
Config dir: C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:09:55.471):
Loading config: C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:09:55.503):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{u'schemaVersion': u'2', u'development': {u'enableScratchpadDir': u'False'}, u'upgrade': {}, u'update': {u'allowUsageStats': u'True', u'askedAllowUsageStats': u'True', u'autoCheck': u'True', u'startupNotification': u'True'}, u'general': {u'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': u'False', u'language': u'Windows', u'saveConfigurationOnExit': u'True', u'askToExit': u'True', u'playStartAndExitSounds': u'True', u'loggingLevel': u'DEBUG'}, u'speech': {u'synth': u'sapi5', u'outputDevice': u'Microsoft Sound Mapper', u'oneCore': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech_OneCore\\Voices\\Tokens\\MSTTS_V110_slSI_Lado', u'volume': u'100'}, u'sapi5': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\eBraRenato', u'volume': u'100'}}, u'braille': {u'noBraille': {u'port': u''}}, u'keyboard': {u'speakCommandKeys': u'False', u'speakTypedWords': u'True'}, u'presentation': {u'reportTooltips': u'True', u'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': u'True'}, u'uwpOcr': {u'language': u'sl'}, u'documentFormatting': {u'autoLanguageSwitching': u'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:55.706):
setting language to Windows
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
NVDA version 2019.1.1
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (14:09:55.759):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:55.767):
Initializing add-ons system
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.775):
Listing add-ons from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.775):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.775):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Found add-on addonUpdater - 19.05. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.779):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.779):
Found add-on focusHighlight - 5.6. Requires API: (2014, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.785):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\outlookExtended
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Found add-on outlookExtended - 1.1. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Disabling add-on outlookExtended
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.789):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Found add-on remote - 2.2. Requires API: (0, 0, 0). Last-tested API: (0, 0, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.789):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (14:09:55.789):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\locale\sl\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:09:55.795):
Found add-on wintenApps - 19.05. Requires API: (2018, 4, 0). Last-tested API: (2019, 2, 0)
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:09:55.983):
No touch devices found
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.181):
Initializing appModule Handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:56.181):
Addon wintenApps added to appModules package path
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.181):
Initializing NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.303):
Speech Dictionary processing
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
file 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic' not found.
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.303):
Loading speech dictionary 'builtin.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:56.313):
3 loaded records.
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:56.313):
Initializing speech
WARNING - stdout (14:09:56.313):
hooked waveOutOpen
WARNING - stdout (14:09:56.313):
hooked waveOutClose
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:57.348):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\sapi5\sapi5-Renato eBralec.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:09:57.348):
file 'C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\sapi5\sapi5-Renato eBralec.dic' not found.
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (14:09:57.348):
Loaded synthDriver sapi5
DEBUGWARNING - core.main (14:09:57.348):
Slow starting core (5.08 sec)
IO - speech.speak (14:09:57.348):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Nalaganje NVDA. Prosimo, po\u010dakajte...']
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale (14:09:57.348):
No CLDR data for locale sl_SI
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:09:57.943):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
INFO - core.main (14:09:57.951):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.960):
Initializing braille input
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (14:09:57.960):
Braille input initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.960):
Initializing braille
INFO - braille.initialize (14:09:57.960):
Using liblouis version 3.8.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (14:09:57.970):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.970):
Initializing displayModel
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:57.970):
Initializing GUI
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
initializing Java Access Bridge support
WARNING - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Java Access Bridge not available
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Initializing winConsole support
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.016):
Initializing UIA support
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (14:09:58.032):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.877):
Initializing IAccessible support
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.880):
Initializing input core
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (14:09:58.880):
No user gesture map
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.880):
Initializing keyboard handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.887):
initializing mouse handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.937):
Initializing touchHandler
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:09:58.937):
No touch devices found
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:58.937):
Initializing global plugin handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon addonUpdater added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon focusHighlight added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon remote added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:09:58.937):
Addon wintenApps added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:58.950):
W10: adding additional events
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:58.997):
W10: added event ID 20036, assigned to UIA_activeTextPositionChanged
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.062):
W10: added event ID 20026, assigned to UIA_dragStart
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.134):
W10: added event ID 20027, assigned to UIA_dragCancel
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.201):
W10: added event ID 20028, assigned to UIA_dragComplete
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (14:09:59.201):
W10: adding class name Popup to known dialog class names
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (14:09:59.221):
C:\Users\Uporabnik\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\configuration.py:5: DeprecationWarning: Importing validate directly is deprecated. Please use configobj.validate instead
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.526):
Initializing core pump
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.526):
Initializing watchdog
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.561):
initializing updateCheck
INFO - core.main (14:09:59.598):
NVDA initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:09:59.598):
entering wx application main loop
IO - speech.speak (14:10:00.338):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Opravilna vrstica']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:00.338):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
INFO - external:globalPlugins.remoteClient.GlobalPlugin.on_connected_as_slave (14:10:00.888):
Control connector connected
IO - speech.speak (14:10:00.891):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Povezano z nadzornim stre\u017enikom']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:00.891):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.000):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.042):
Beep at pitch 1000, for 300 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.223):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (14:10:01.428):
Beep at pitch 720, for 100 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:02.273):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:02.513):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Programi, ki se izvajajo  orodna vrstica']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:02.513):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:02.533):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Google Chrome  gumb  1 od 5']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:02.533):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:03.375):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Google Chrome  zaslonski namig']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:03.375):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:03.936):
Input: kb(desktop):leftArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:04.029):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Outlook 2016 \u2013 \u0161tevilo odprtih oken: 1  gumb  podMeni  4 od 5']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:04.035):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:04.904):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.170):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Prejeto \u2013 nada.jazbec59@... - Outlook']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.176):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.266):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Pogled tabele  tabela']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.266):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:05.312):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes  razvr\u0161\u010danje v skupino  Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes  ozna\u010deno  razprto  vrstica 1  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:05.322):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:06.062):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:06.864):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:07.835):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1585 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:07.881):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:08.838):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1610 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:09.338):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:09.355):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: Danes']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:09.355):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:10.359):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.493):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'NUIDocumentWindow']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.500):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.598):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Priljubljene  drevesni pogled']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.598):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:10.638):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'nivo 2  Prejeto']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:10.638):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:11.552):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (14:10:11.658):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Pogled tabele  tabela']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:11.658):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:11.678):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Zdru\u017ei po: Raz\u0161irjeno: Datum: V\u010deraj  razvr\u0161\u010danje v skupino  razprto  vrstica 4  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:11.684):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - speech.speak (14:10:13.717):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u's prilogo Od Hana Premrl, Zadeva [Utzo.lur] \u0160ivanje, Prejeto pon. 15:27, Velikost 4 MB,  vrstica 5  stolpec 1  do 12']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:13.720):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:13.730):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.184):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395150, objectID 1616 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.200):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395150, objectID 1617 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.358):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395160, objectID 1618 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.358):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395160, objectID 1619 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.405):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1620 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.427):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1621 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.513):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 525542, objectID 1622 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.513):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 525542, objectID 1623 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.528):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1644 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.528):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1645 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.543):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1647 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.543):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1648 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.559):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1650 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:14.559):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1651 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:15.085):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:15.835):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.084):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1640136, objectID 1696 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.115):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1697 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.115):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1698 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.283):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1700 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.299):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1701 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.569):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1708 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.569):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1574300, objectID 1709 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.615):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1711 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.631):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1712 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.917):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 722796, objectID 1714 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.917):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 722796, objectID 1715 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.933):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1743 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.933):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1744 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.970):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1746 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.970):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395146, objectID 1747 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.986):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1749 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (14:10:16.986):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 395152, objectID 1750 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:17.418):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+n
IO - speech.speak (14:10:17.618):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'NVDA  meni']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:17.618):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:18.410):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:18.480):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Izbire  podMeni  i']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:18.490):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:19.375):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:19.426):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Orodja  podMeni  o']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:19.426):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:20.177):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:10:20.279):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI'), u'Preglej dnevnik  1 od 9']
DEBUGWARNING - synthDrivers.sapi5.SynthDriver.speak (14:10:20.279):
Unsupported speech command: LangChangeCommand ('sl_SI')
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:21.196):
Input: kb(desktop):enter

----- ending of log -----

thanks again.

regards, Jožef


locked Re: off-topic: services that allow you to accessibly build forms

Nimer Jaber
 

this topic is now closed. It is off-topic, the subject states it is off-topic, I believed this morning that the thread would die, but it has not. Please, if a thread is off-topic, if it does not relate to NVDA, do not post it to this group and certainly, do not reply to it on this group. This discussion is better had on the chat list, or on other tech mailing lists.

Thanks.

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:18 AM Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

I’m sure google Docs can do this. I know I’ve filled out forms this way before.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off-topic: services that allow you to accessibly build forms

 

Another one that didn’t get the memo 🤣

 

From: Governor staten
Sent: 08 May 2019 05:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] off-topic: services that allow you to accessibly build forms

 

Hello list. This is the genesis of the question. I have to build a form for an event registration. I tried out Jotform. Unless I’m severely mistaken, it doesn’t work well at all with screen reading software.

 

Very simple question. What form building services do work well with screen readers? Google Forms is okay, I recall. Any others out there? Please respond to my email address: govsta@...

If you have any ideas.

 

If it helps you any, I have a website with Wordpress installed. If you can suggest any good plugins, I’d entertain those as well. Thanks in advance for any ideas you can throw my way.

 



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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

J.G
 

Sorry forgot to add, that I also tried with com registration tool if it would have helped, but there were same results.