Date   

Re: key assignments in NVDA

Andre Fisher
 

Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the NUMPAD using object navigation keys.


How can I use the cursor in Eset Not32 Antivirus by Nvda

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello,

I decided to write to this conference, because I have a problem with using the cursor in Eset by Nvda.

When I start Eset, I can't start the controll of the computer, because the keyboard doesn't react, Nvda says: Unknown.

I must use the Ocr for do it.

I would like to solve this problem.

Sincerely:

Jarek


locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

Nimer Jaber
 

this topic is now locked. This is off-topic for this list. 


On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:43 AM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Yeah, you need to reformat to get rid of all these things.

Its a pitty because basically every antivirus/malware program is just
not usable by us, so its grossly unfair,.

I have had hackers and other friends campaigning against the security
corps for this but they don't seem to give a hoot about access at all.

I was able to remove avast and a entire load of things, and after os
updates and reinstalls with no reformat, pluss, well other corruptions
we are better off without them.

It doesn't help that among our bgt codes, vb6 codes, and other tools any
of our programs can be suspected bad guys, so I end up excluding several
folders in program files, and on the main drive.

Fortunately my new twin drive system means I can exclude an entire drive
which is my data hdd anyway but even so I shouldn't have to exclude bits
and bobs just to make things work.

Its insecure and really crappy but to be honest those big monsters don't
budge so I have to live with it even I hate their guts.



On 6/05/2019 6:54 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Yes and simply removing it can be a great challenge and often ends in
> some issues with windows.
>
> I have the radical view that Avast, and to some extent AVG are both
> viruses in themselves. They behave like one in that you cannot remove
> the core processes, they remain after 'removal, and the program even
> stops a lot of accessibility for other software as it detects our
> usage as hacking Avast or other software.
> If you follow their guidelines to disable the bits that case issues
> for us, then you are in fact clobbering most of Avasts idiot
> protection system.
> IE you can easily infect a pc in that state.
>
> I do believe removing it was behind my problems with Dropbox dialogues
> in windows 7 as well, at least Dropbox themselves suggested it but
> obviously would not be drawn as access experts they are not, and
> presumably don't want to get sued by Avast!
>
> However if you want to discuss anti virus at length then we had best
> take this thread to the chat sub group as in much the same way as my
> synth is better then yours, threads like this have no way for all to
> agree, as it depends so much on personal preferences and usage regimes
> of the machine.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>
>
>> Remove avast and use something else its not been accessible for ages.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/05/2019 5:22 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>>> Hi Sazid,
>>>
>>> I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for
>>> learning to use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would
>>> strongly recommend the "Basic Training for NVDA" training material.
>>> While I could give you commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right
>>> arrow to move to the next object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left
>>> arrow to move to the previous object. However, without a better
>>> understanding of how it works, you will likely get lost, as they are
>>> fairly complex.
>>>
>>> You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official
>>> shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Quentin.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@...
>>> <mailto:skstraders.nlr@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     hi Gene,
>>>     thanks for your quick reply, as i am a beginner in learning
>>> assestive
>>>     technology please tell me what is speech viewer how to use it and
>>>     uses of it? please tell me how to use review cursor?
>>>
>>>     On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>
>>> wrote:
>>>     > Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read
>>>     something
>>>     > in Avast? If you know how to use them fully and you can't read
>>>     something in
>>>     > Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the
>>>     things you are
>>>     > trying to read with them. It may be that if you route the JAWS
>>>     cursor to a
>>>     > field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is
>>>     closing now in
>>>     > a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it
>>>     spoken in that
>>>     > way. It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what
>>>     is said.
>>>     >
>>>     > Gene
>>>     > ----- Original Message -----
>>>     >
>>>     > From: sazid
>>>     > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
>>>     > To: nvda
>>>     > Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not
>>> reading the
>>>     > text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to
>>> enable
>>>     > review cursor as well as pc cursor?
>>>     >
>>>     > thanks and regards,
>>>     > sazid
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Quentin Christensen
>>> Training and Support Manager
>>>
>>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>>
>>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





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locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

 

Yeah, you need to reformat to get rid of all these things.

Its a pitty because basically every antivirus/malware program is just not usable by us, so its grossly unfair,.

I have had hackers and other friends campaigning against the security corps for this but they don't seem to give a hoot about access at all.

I was able to remove avast and a entire load of things, and after os updates and reinstalls with no reformat, pluss, well other corruptions we are better off without them.

It doesn't help that among our bgt codes, vb6 codes, and other tools any of our programs can be suspected bad guys, so I end up excluding several folders in program files, and on the main drive.

Fortunately my new twin drive system means I can exclude an entire drive which is my data hdd anyway but even so I shouldn't have to exclude bits and bobs just to make things work.

Its insecure and really crappy but to be honest those big monsters don't budge so I have to live with it even I hate their guts.

On 6/05/2019 6:54 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes and simply removing it can be a great challenge and often ends in some issues with windows.

I have the radical view that Avast, and to some extent AVG are both viruses in themselves. They behave like one in that you cannot remove the core processes, they remain after 'removal, and the program even stops a lot of accessibility for other software as it detects our usage as hacking Avast or other software.
If you follow their guidelines to disable the bits that case issues for us, then you are in fact clobbering most of Avasts idiot protection system.
IE you can easily infect a pc in that state.

I do believe removing it was behind my problems with Dropbox dialogues in windows 7 as well, at least Dropbox themselves suggested it but obviously would not be drawn as access experts they are not, and presumably don't want to get sued by Avast!

However if you want to discuss anti virus at length then we had best take this thread to the chat sub group as in much the same way as my synth is better then yours, threads like this have no way for all to agree, as it depends so much on personal preferences and usage regimes of the machine.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?


Remove avast and use something else its not been accessible for ages.



On 6/05/2019 5:22 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sazid,

I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for
learning to use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would
strongly recommend the "Basic Training for NVDA" training material.
While I could give you commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right
arrow to move to the next object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left
arrow to move to the previous object. However, without a better
understanding of how it works, you will likely get lost, as they are
fairly complex.

You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official
shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@gmail.com
<mailto:skstraders.nlr@gmail.com>> wrote:

    hi Gene,
    thanks for your quick reply, as i am a beginner in learning assestive
    technology please tell me what is speech viewer how to use it and
    uses of it? please tell me how to use review cursor?

    On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read
    something
    > in Avast? If you know how to use them fully and you can't read
    something in
    > Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the
    things you are
    > trying to read with them. It may be that if you route the JAWS
    cursor to a
    > field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is
    closing now in
    > a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it
    spoken in that
    > way. It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what
    is said.
    >
    > Gene
    > ----- Original Message -----
    >
    > From: sazid
    > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
    > To: nvda
    > Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
    >
    >
    > i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
    > text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to enable
    > review cursor as well as pc cursor?
    >
    > thanks and regards,
    > sazid
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





Re: What is the threshold snap shot used for?

 

Hi,
As you've observed, it will take more than manifest updates to get add-ons to cooperate. This is the real reason for releasing Add-on Updater 19.05: to prepare that add-on to handle updates for other add-ons once Project Threshold is activated.
I have begun the next phase of Python 3 lab work - you will see the first fruits of this in the next day or so, provided that I get plenty of time to study for college final exams.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 11:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is the threshold snap shot used for?

Is there not also a project to refractor sound handling as well?

For those interested, I had to hand amend all the add ons I use to stop them being disabled. The crucial bit is the text in the manifest saying what the last tested version of nvda was.
Warning, I'm doing my experiments on a portable version on the hard drive so I do not muck up the working version.
However if the flag for last working version is activated in the next version of nvda. most of the current add ons will be permanently disabled by default
I have taken the step to turn this protection off on this portable version
but I suspect that come proper Python 3 etc many will cause nvda to malfunction. Some of the simpler ones will probably still work, but not all.
Some suggest the only changes are new syntax, but the question is if the original author is missing in action, it is going to fall to somebody else to modify them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is the threshold snap shot used for?


Hi


Ok that makes sense I heard there was chatter we are changing over before
long to use it and things like add ons etc will need to be updated as well
to work with it.

is it that we are starting to change from the next release of NVDA?


I would also have to go back and check on the same page it said there was
a beta release of NVDA last week. yet when you download it it mentions
nvda 2019.1 and not nvda 2019.2 as you would expect in a beta release. I
would have to go back and check also it referenced what was new in 2019.1
and not in 2019.2 coming up.

It is for may 2nd 2019 maybe the wrong snap shot went up there?


Gene nz


On 6/05/2019 7:54 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This will be for python 3 branch.

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von
hurrikennyandopo ...
Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. Mai 2019 21:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Betreff: [nvda] What is the threshold snap shot used for?


Hi guys



I was just looking up on the snap shots page to see if the beta was
released of NVDA which it is, but noticed the above in the subject line
above the aalpha snap shot. I know what the other 2 do but what does this
one do that might be different? to the others?



There is no information to say what it does like the others.



The link to the page is https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



Gene nz


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK
sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their
computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you
please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the
APNK network please visit the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use
NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link
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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library
network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the
following links. Software available
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to
start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the
official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who
have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK
sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their
computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you
please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the
APNK network please visit the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use
NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library
network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the
following links. Software available
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to
start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the
official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who
have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.





locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes and simply removing it can be a great challenge and often ends in some issues with windows.

I have the radical view that Avast, and to some extent AVG are both viruses in themselves. They behave like one in that you cannot remove the core processes, they remain after 'removal, and the program even stops a lot of accessibility for other software as it detects our usage as hacking Avast or other software.
If you follow their guidelines to disable the bits that case issues for us, then you are in fact clobbering most of Avasts idiot protection system.
IE you can easily infect a pc in that state.

I do believe removing it was behind my problems with Dropbox dialogues in windows 7 as well, at least Dropbox themselves suggested it but obviously would not be drawn as access experts they are not, and presumably don't want to get sued by Avast!

However if you want to discuss anti virus at length then we had best take this thread to the chat sub group as in much the same way as my synth is better then yours, threads like this have no way for all to agree, as it depends so much on personal preferences and usage regimes of the machine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?


Remove avast and use something else its not been accessible for ages.



On 6/05/2019 5:22 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sazid,

I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for
learning to use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would
strongly recommend the "Basic Training for NVDA" training material.
While I could give you commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right
arrow to move to the next object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left
arrow to move to the previous object. However, without a better
understanding of how it works, you will likely get lost, as they are
fairly complex.

You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official
shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@gmail.com
<mailto:skstraders.nlr@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply, as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer how to use it and
uses of it? please tell me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read
something
> in Avast? If you know how to use them fully and you can't read
something in
> Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the
things you are
> trying to read with them. It may be that if you route the JAWS
cursor to a
> field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is
closing now in
> a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it
spoken in that
> way. It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what
is said.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: sazid
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>
>
> i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
> text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to enable
> review cursor as well as pc cursor?
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
>
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: What is the threshold snap shot used for?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Is there not also a project to refractor sound handling as well?

For those interested, I had to hand amend all the add ons I use to stop them being disabled. The crucial bit is the text in the manifest saying what the last tested version of nvda was.
Warning, I'm doing my experiments on a portable version on the hard drive so I do not muck up the working version.
However if the flag for last working version is activated in the next version of nvda. most of the current add ons will be permanently disabled by default
I have taken the step to turn this protection off on this portable version but I suspect that come proper Python 3 etc many will cause nvda to malfunction. Some of the simpler ones will probably still work, but not all. Some suggest the only changes are new syntax, but the question is if the original author is missing in action, it is going to fall to somebody else to modify them.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What is the threshold snap shot used for?


Hi


Ok that makes sense I heard there was chatter we are changing over before long to use it and things like add ons etc will need to be updated as well to work with it.

is it that we are starting to change from the next release of NVDA?


I would also have to go back and check on the same page it said there was a beta release of NVDA last week. yet when you download it it mentions nvda 2019.1 and not nvda 2019.2 as you would expect in a beta release. I would have to go back and check also it referenced what was new in 2019.1 and not in 2019.2 coming up.

It is for may 2nd 2019 maybe the wrong snap shot went up there?


Gene nz


On 6/05/2019 7:54 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
This will be for python 3 branch.

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von hurrikennyandopo ...
Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. Mai 2019 21:54
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Betreff: [nvda] What is the threshold snap shot used for?


Hi guys



I was just looking up on the snap shots page to see if the beta was released of NVDA which it is, but noticed the above in the subject line above the aalpha snap shot. I know what the other 2 do but what does this one do that might be different? to the others?



There is no information to say what it does like the others.



The link to the page is https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



Gene nz


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.




locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

 

Remove avast and use something else its not been accessible for ages.



On 6/05/2019 5:22 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sazid,

I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for learning to use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would strongly recommend the "Basic Training for NVDA" training material.  While I could give you commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right arrow to move to the next object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left arrow to move to the previous object.  However, without a better understanding of how it works, you will likely get lost, as they are fairly complex.

You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@...> wrote:
hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply,  as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer  how to use it and
uses of it?  please tell  me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read something
> in Avast?  If you know how to use them fully and you can't read something in
> Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you are
> trying to read with them.  It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor to a
> field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing now in
> a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in that
> way.  It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: sazid
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>
>
> i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
> text of the message given by avast.  how to read them?  how to enable
> review cursor as well as pc cursor?
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
>
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

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On 5/6/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Sazid,

I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for learning to
use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would strongly recommend the
"Basic Training for NVDA" training material. While I could give you
commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right arrow to move to the next
object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left arrow to move to the previous
object. However, without a better understanding of how it works, you will
likely get lost, as they are fairly complex.

You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official shop:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@gmail.com> wrote:

hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply, as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer how to use it and
uses of it? please tell me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read
something
in Avast? If you know how to use them fully and you can't read
something in
Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you
are
trying to read with them. It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor
to a
field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing
now
in
a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in
that
way. It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: sazid
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?


i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to enable
review cursor as well as pc cursor?

thanks and regards,
sazid







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sazid,

I am not using Avast, so can't help directly with that, but for learning to use the Review Cursor and Object Navigation, I would strongly recommend the "Basic Training for NVDA" training material.  While I could give you commands like NVDA+numpad 6 or NVDA+shift+right arrow to move to the next object and NVDA+numpad 4 or NVDA+shift+left arrow to move to the previous object.  However, without a better understanding of how it works, you will likely get lost, as they are fairly complex.

You can find more about the Basic Training for NVDA from the official shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM sazid <skstraders.nlr@...> wrote:
hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply,  as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer  how to use it and
uses of it?  please tell  me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read something
> in Avast?  If you know how to use them fully and you can't read something in
> Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you are
> trying to read with them.  It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor to a
> field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing now in
> a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in that
> way.  It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: sazid
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>
>
> i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
> text of the message given by avast.  how to read them?  how to enable
> review cursor as well as pc cursor?
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
>
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

Gene
 

I haven't used JAWS for years and others can answer some of your questions better and refer you to resources.  For example, I can tell you about the JAWS cursor but I don't know how much it can be used in Windows 10.  It is far less useful than in earlier versions of Windows.  Then, there is the touch cursor, which you will probably want to know something about.  It wasn't in JAWS when I used it.  I don't know enough about it to explain how to use it  I didn't use speech viewer either.  Others may want to describe these things or they may simply refer you to information.  JAWS has a lot of training material.  If you don't understand the material you may be referred to, you may, of course, ask here for explanations on how to do things or for clarifications. 
 
As far as the JAWS cursor is concerned, you use all the movement commands you use with the regular cursor, control home, top of screen, control end end of screen, movement commands such as left and right arrows do the same thing, move by character, control left and right arrow do the same thing, etc. 
 
You switch to the JAWS cursor with numpad minus, the last key on the top right of the numpad.  To route the JAWS cursor to where you are use Numpad insert and the JAWS cursor key, in other words, hold numpad insert and press the last key at the top right of the numpad while doing so. 
That both moves the JAWS cursor to where you are and turns it on.
to return to the pc cursor, which you usually are in, use the command numpad plus, the long key right below numpad minus.  it’s the long key below the JAWS cursor key, on the far right of the numpad.
There is another long key below that one but it isn't used in what we are discussing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: sazid
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply,  as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer  how to use it and
uses of it?  please tell  me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read something
> in Avast?  If you know how to use them fully and you can't read something in
> Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you are
> trying to read with them.  It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor to a
> field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing now in
> a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in that
> way.  It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: sazid
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?
>
>
> i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
> text of the message given by avast.  how to read them?  how to enable
> review cursor as well as pc cursor?
>
> thanks and regards,
> sazid
>
>
>
>
>
>



locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

sazid
 

hi Gene,
thanks for your quick reply, as i am a beginner in learning assestive
technology please tell me what is speech viewer how to use it and
uses of it? please tell me how to use review cursor?

On 5/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read something
in Avast? If you know how to use them fully and you can't read something in
Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you are
trying to read with them. It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor to a
field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing now in
a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in that
way. It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: sazid
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?


i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to enable
review cursor as well as pc cursor?

thanks and regards,
sazid






locked Re: how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

Gene
 

Are you asking how to use the cursors or how to get them to read something in Avast?  If you know how to use them fully and you can't read something in Avast, then it is very likely those cursors can't read the things you are trying to read with them.  It may be that if you route the JAWS cursor to a field you are in and then tab and shift tab, if the field is closing now in a short time, that it will remain opened and you can have it spoken in that way.  It may be that you can use the speech viewer to see what is said. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: sazid
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:34 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
text of the message given by avast.  how to read them?  how to enable
review cursor as well as pc cursor?

thanks and regards,
sazid



locked how to use review cursor on my windows 7 pc?

sazid
 

i am using avast anti virus on my pc as the nvda is not reading the
text of the message given by avast. how to read them? how to enable
review cursor as well as pc cursor?

thanks and regards,
sazid


Re: is this document out of date?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Troy,

Much of it should still be the same, but there have been changes in the last couple of years.  From memory a one of the biggest was the change to the way the review cursor copying works (NVDA+f9 to start marking, then NVDA+f10 TWICE to select and then copy) - I also took the opportunity when I updated that, to expand the whole review cursor section as well.  In the most recent update, I also changed the references to the NVDA settings to refer to the single settings dialog with categories, rather than the many individual dialogs, which we had up until recently.

Can you still use it?  Absolutely.  You might find that a command has changed here and there, so if something doesn't work exactly as the book says it should then do feel free to check with me (it could be an error in the book, and it might be one I haven't found yet) and I can get you on the right path.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:36 AM Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
Hi all,


I have a document titled basic training for NVDA.docx. I can't tell when
it was written but it's in a folder with stuff from 2017, if that's when
it was written is it still applicable for the current version of NVDA?


Thanks.


Troy







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Greetings and introduction

Quentin Christensen
 

Dear Jarek,

Welcome!  You will find lots of conversations about NVDA here.  Feel free to also share your questions, comments and advice.

I write the official NVDA training material available from NV Access: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

I regularly post here, and every couple of weeks I write up a blog post on what NV Access is up to, called In-Process: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

Another way to join in is coming up later this year with the annual "NVDACon", an online conference for all things NVDA.  You can find more information about it here: https://www.nvdacon.org/  and in particular, the organisers are currently gathering feedback on the preferred weekend to run the conference.  You can share your thoughts on that here: https://doodle.com/poll/sd5ubgyrbhibm5bw

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 6:56 AM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
Hello,

My just logged in to conference Nvda.

My name is Jarek Krcmar from the Czech Republic.

I would like to read a messages about Nvda.

Sincerely:

Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: key assignments in NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

There isn't a single keypress way, but you can use the "input gestures" to change the behaviour of the keystrokes.  What you would need to do is "remove" each one of the conflicting desktop keystrokes.  Ideally if you do it from desktop layout, you could remove then add the same keystroke back but set it for desktop layout only - then go back to laptop keyboard layout once you are done (if you simply remove them, if you ever go to desktop layout, you won't have any object navigation keys).

You can find "Input Gestures" on NVDA's preferences menu (NVDA+n, then P, then select "Input Gestures").

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:12 PM <mhysnm1964@...> wrote:

All,

 

Is it possible to remap keys in NVDA? As I am using a laptop with a numerical keypad. I am also using the NVDA laptop layout. I want the number pad to be used as normal cursor keys, page up and page down, ETC. But NVDA is overriding this behaviour and forces the use of Object Nav. Any ideas on how to get around this? As the laptop keyboard to jump to home, end, delete is at the top of the keyboard which is quite a pain. FN left/right arrow key does not change to home and end.

 

 

 

I wish NVDA had the option to switch between use of Object Nav (default behaviour) and a normal keypad.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


is this document out of date?

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I have a document titled basic training for NVDA.docx. I can't tell when it was written but it's in a folder with stuff from 2017, if that's when it was written is it still applicable for the current version of NVDA?


Thanks.


Troy


thanks for fixing outlook

lauracornwell
 

Hey thereto all on this mailing list ,I don’t post much on hear at all , but I would just like to say a big thanks to everyone who has worked on the stuff with outlook, this has   been a big help to me and so many ,more people  keep up[ the great work .everyone .


Re: Python ide

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

my apologies for posting

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python ide


Hello:

You should not have posted that link here!

That website is FULL! of pirated and reversed engineered software!!!

"Please!" Don't post links to these kinds of websites!

It's very bad for NVDA mailing list to be associated with these kinds of websites!


On 5/5/2019 6:10 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi felix
below is the direct link to bhp's website

https://blindhelp.net/

this website contains software, training material ETC, used by blind or v i persons, also created by blind or v i persons

its a great resource

you can get notepad ++ here

kerryn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python ide


Hi,
what is bhp? Never heard of it, and the link seems to be invalid.
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 4. Mai 2019 um 21:30 Uhr schrieb Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
<k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>:

i would recommend a text editor like
notepad ++

check bhp for it
bhp.net


----- Original Message -----
From: Dang Manh Cuong
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python ide

Hi
Press ctrl+Shift+P to open the command palate. This prrogram has a web interface so just press E to jump to the edit area, then press spacebar to enter it then write code. Press esc to exit it and down arrow to find the output area.
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
Tel: +8428 7302-4488
E-mail: info@saomaicenter.org; tech@saomaicenter.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@gmail.com; cuong@saomaicenter.org
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

----- Original Message -----
From: farhan israk
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python ide

Thank you? How to open command palate? How to write and run code? How to see output?


On Thu, 2 May 2019, 8:09 am Dang Manh Cuong, <dangmanhcuong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
Read this: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/python/python-tutorial
After that you can press Alt+F1 to open the settings panel, then search for accessibility at the search box, and find and press spacebar to turn on this feature. I'm busy now, and I just did it for once so may be I didn't remember the correct steps to setup. Tell me and the list if you have problem with setting up VS code.
HTH
Cuong.
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
Tel: +8428 7302-4488
E-mail: info@saomaicenter.org; tech@saomaicenter.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@gmail.com; cuong@saomaicenter.org
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

----- Original Message -----
From: farhan israk
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python ide

Thank you. Could you guide me step by step? I have been trying for three days but couldn't setup visual studio code for python. If it is needed you may send me mail at fahim.net.2014@gmail.com


On Wed, 1 May 2019, 10:02 pm Dang Manh Cuong, <dangmanhcuong@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I use Visual studio code. Take a look at https://code.visualstudio.com/
May be, discuss about Python is not allowed here. I suggest you join the Python vis mailling list, a blind community of learnign Python. Take a look at https://www.freelists.org/webpage/pythonvis
Cuong
----------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
Tel: +8428 7302-4488
E-mail: info@saomaicenter.org; tech@saomaicenter.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
Mobile / Viber / WhatsApp / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@gmail.com; cuong@saomaicenter.org
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

----- Original Message -----
From: farhan israk
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Python ide

Which python ide is most accessible and how to setup it?



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