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Re: Column selection in word

Yeti
 

Hello William and All,

Do you mean although nvda speak the content of other cell,
What I tryed and what happened:
1. I have a Table with 2 columns and about 50 rows. In the second / right column, there are only low numbers, such as 3, 14 or 42.
2. I navigated to the second cell and pressed Alt+Shift+PGDN as proposed.
3. NVDA announced something like "3456 letters marked" and I couldn't believe it.
4. I pressed CTRL+C, opened notepad and pasted with CTRL+V.

There were the about 50 numbers with together about 60 characters and nothing else ...

Ad Astra

Yeti


Re: New japanese keyboard

Clement Chou
 

alt+` still switches between romaji and kana. To switch to Katakana,
use alt+capslock. ctrl+capslock for hiragana. That's how it works for
me still.

On 3/17/21, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.

I have a question to japanese people. I don't know, if I have asked this
question before, but how to switch in new japanese keyboard in Windows
10 from Hiragana to Katakana or Romaji ETC, using keyboard shortcuts?

Thank You.

Best regards

Marco Oros







Re: Column selection in word

Sylwek Piekarski
 

Yes, if you do as I wrote, only this part of the table will be selected in your case only three cells in the column.
Keyboard shortcuts for Word to navigate in the table are:
ALT + HOME - First cell in a row
Alt + End - Last cell a row,
Alt + PGUP - First cell in column,
Alt + PGDN - Last cell in column.
When you use these  Shortcut with the SHIFT key, only this area will be select on which the cursor moves.


W dniu 17.03.2021 o 13:03, William pisze:

Do you mean although nvda speak the content of other cell, actually word has not selected them?


Yeti 於 17/3/2021 19:47 寫道:
Hello Sylwek,

I tested out that it work only if the table is empty.
Yes, it looks like this, but this is an issue of NVDA.

When You copy the marked text by pressing CTRL+C and paste it on another place, You will see it.

At least that was the case with me in word 2019.

Ad Astra

Yeti








Re: Column selection in word

William
 

Do you mean although nvda speak the content of other cell, actually word has not selected them?


Yeti 於 17/3/2021 19:47 寫道:

Hello Sylwek,

I tested out that it work only if the table is empty.
Yes, it looks like this, but this is an issue of NVDA.

When You copy the marked text by pressing CTRL+C and paste it on another place, You will see it.

At least that was the case with me in word 2019.

Ad Astra

Yeti





Re: Column selection in word

Yeti
 

Hello Sylwek,

I tested out that it work only if the table is empty.

Yes, it looks like this, but this is an issue of NVDA.

When You copy the marked text by pressing CTRL+C and paste it on another place, You will see it.

At least that was the case with me in word 2019.

Ad Astra

Yeti


Re: PDF in Web Browser - NVDA says embedded object unavailable

Gene
 

To test this, we have to be sure the pdf file is not an image. If it is not an image, you should be able to read it. I don't know a page that has a PDF file that is not an image. If someone doesn't post a link to one in a reasonable time, I'll find one.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mert Anlar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] imbedded object unavailable issue

hi folks;

when I try to read pdf documents on either chrom or edge, NVDA says
imbedded object unavailable and the rest of the page is blank, don't
know how to handle it.

what should I do in this case, any help would be appreciated.

thanks


Re: Column selection in word

William
 

Thanks, I tested out that it work only if the table is empty.

If it is not empty, when I do so I found that nvda will also speak the cells from the other columns.


Sylwek Piekarski 於 17/3/2021 17:07 寫道:

Set the cursor in the first cell of the second row.
Press ALT + SHIFT + PGDN and all cells down will be selected.
Open the context menu and select the merge cells.


W dniu 17.03.2021 o 08:01, William pisze:
Hi all

I have the following problem.

I have a 5x5 table in word.

With the first row as the column title and the rest are the table content. But the first column of the content (first cell of row 2 to first cell of fifth row) apply to the rest of the content.

So i wanna combine the above mentioned 4 cells.

Do you know how to do this using NVDA?

Thanks,









PDF in Web Browser - NVDA says embedded object unavailable

Mert Anlar
 
Edited

hi folks;

when I try to read pdf documents on either chrom or edge, NVDA says embedded object unavailable and the rest of the page is blank, don't know how to handle it.

what should I do in this case, any help would be appreciated.

thanks


Re: Column selection in word

Sylwek Piekarski
 

Set the cursor in the first cell of the second row.
Press ALT + SHIFT + PGDN and all cells down will be selected.
Open the context menu and select the merge cells.


W dniu 17.03.2021 o 08:01, William pisze:

Hi all

I have the following problem.

I have a 5x5 table in word.

With the first row as the column title and the rest are the table content. But the first column of the content (first cell of row 2 to first cell of fifth row) apply to the rest of the content.

So i wanna combine the above mentioned 4 cells.

Do you know how to do this using NVDA?

Thanks,






New japanese keyboard

Marco Oros
 

Hello.

I have a question to japanese people. I don't know, if I have asked this question before, but how to switch in new japanese keyboard in Windows 10 from Hiragana to Katakana or Romaji ETC, using keyboard shortcuts?

Thank You.

Best regards

Marco Oros


Re: Why are some Greek letters read in Unicode values, not with their actual letter

 

Hi.
By doing a quick research it is religious part from the bible.
It is taken from Mathew's book chapter 14 line 30 if I understand right.
Nikos

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 09:34, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:

Yeah, It is really something, like koiné Greek, or Ancient Greek.

But, what is It?

I think on this text.

Dňa 17. 3. 2021 o 8:12 Nikos Demetriou via groups.io napísal(a):
Hi.
I am using the latest alpha portable and the espeak voice is set to Greek with automatic language swiching disabled.

It reads fine here.
The text is either religious or ancient Greek which uses the Greek polytonick system.
I am pasting here the text from your message and then I will tell you what are the unknown letters.

Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ

There is Ypsilon with psili perispomeni. First word second letter.
On the second word Ypsilon perispomeni third letter.
On the third word Alpha psili and epsilon varia. First and last letters.
On the forth word Yota varia last letter.
On the fifth word there isn't anything.

Nikos



On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:31, Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:
I have a short piece of Greek text here. I'm using ESpeak in the latest
alpha of NVDA. There are some of the letters in this that are given
Unicode values, not whatever they are, as a named letter. I'll put the
text below.


Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ


Use left and right arrow, and you can see what I am speaking of.







Re: Why are some Greek letters read in Unicode values, not with their actual letter

Marco Oros
 

Yeah, It is really something, like koiné Greek, or Ancient Greek.

But, what is It?

I think on this text.

Dňa 17. 3. 2021 o 8:12 Nikos Demetriou via groups.io napísal(a):

Hi.
I am using the latest alpha portable and the espeak voice is set to Greek with automatic language swiching disabled.

It reads fine here.
The text is either religious or ancient Greek which uses the Greek polytonick system.
I am pasting here the text from your message and then I will tell you what are the unknown letters.

Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ

There is Ypsilon with psili perispomeni. First word second letter.
On the second word Ypsilon perispomeni third letter.
On the third word Alpha psili and epsilon varia. First and last letters.
On the forth word Yota varia last letter.
On the fifth word there isn't anything.

Nikos



On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:31, Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:
I have a short piece of Greek text here. I'm using ESpeak in the latest
alpha of NVDA. There are some of the letters in this that are given
Unicode values, not whatever they are, as a named letter. I'll put the
text below.


Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ


Use left and right arrow, and you can see what I am speaking of.







Re: Column selection in word

Quentin Christensen
 

Quick follow up.  The UIA issue isn't around merged cells - it's blank cells - it just happens that the table I setup for this had blank cells I tried to navigate through which were next to the merged cells.  Here is the issue for that: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11043

Reiterating what I noted previously, I'd recommend not using UIA in Word for now when using tables *with blank cells*.  If you're not sure what UIA in Word is, you most likely don't have it set, so you shouldn't need to worry :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:19 PM Quentin Christensen via groups.io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
Hi William,

If you select the cells you want to merge - ie move to row 2, column 1, then shift+down arrow to select through to row 5 column 1 - you can then press the applications key to open the context menu and choose "Merge" (Press M twice then enter).  That works with a couple of caveats:
- Moving to the cell to the right of the merged cells will, in this case, always move to the topmost cell to the right - ie row 2, column 2.
- If you set headers, NVDA will read that header each time you change rows, even though it's the same for all those merged cells.
- If you set NVDA to use UI Automation (in NVDA's advanced settings), it gets a bit confused about when you are in the table when part of the table is merged like this.  I'll explore it further and write up the issue, but for now, I'd recommend not using UIA in Word for tables.

If you are interested in learning more about tables and Word in general, we have the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" module you might be interested: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:01 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:
Hi all

I have the following problem.

I have a 5x5 table in word.

With the first row as the column title and the rest are the table
content. But the first column of the content (first cell of row 2 to
first cell of fifth row) apply to the rest of the content.

So i wanna combine the above mentioned 4 cells.

Do you know how to do this using NVDA?

Thanks,









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Column selection in word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi William,

If you select the cells you want to merge - ie move to row 2, column 1, then shift+down arrow to select through to row 5 column 1 - you can then press the applications key to open the context menu and choose "Merge" (Press M twice then enter).  That works with a couple of caveats:
- Moving to the cell to the right of the merged cells will, in this case, always move to the topmost cell to the right - ie row 2, column 2.
- If you set headers, NVDA will read that header each time you change rows, even though it's the same for all those merged cells.
- If you set NVDA to use UI Automation (in NVDA's advanced settings), it gets a bit confused about when you are in the table when part of the table is merged like this.  I'll explore it further and write up the issue, but for now, I'd recommend not using UIA in Word for tables.

If you are interested in learning more about tables and Word in general, we have the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" module you might be interested: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:01 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:
Hi all

I have the following problem.

I have a 5x5 table in word.

With the first row as the column title and the rest are the table
content. But the first column of the content (first cell of row 2 to
first cell of fifth row) apply to the rest of the content.

So i wanna combine the above mentioned 4 cells.

Do you know how to do this using NVDA?

Thanks,









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Why are some Greek letters read in Unicode values, not with their actual letter

 

Hi.
I am using the latest alpha portable and the espeak voice is set to Greek with automatic language swiching disabled.

It reads fine here.
The text is either religious or ancient Greek which uses the Greek polytonick system.
I am pasting here the text from your message and then I will tell you what are the unknown letters.

Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ

There is Ypsilon with psili perispomeni. First word second letter.
On the second word Ypsilon perispomeni third letter.
On the third word Alpha psili and epsilon varia. First and last letters.
On the forth word Yota varia last letter.
On the fifth word there isn't anything.

Nikos



On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:31, Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:
I have a short piece of Greek text here. I'm using ESpeak in the latest
alpha of NVDA. There are some of the letters in this that are given
Unicode values, not whatever they are, as a named letter. I'll put the
text below.


Εὖ δοῦλε ἀγαθὲ καὶ πιστέ


Use left and right arrow, and you can see what I am speaking of.







Column selection in word

William
 

Hi all

I have the following problem.

I have a 5x5 table in word.

With the first row as the column title and the rest are the table content. But the first column of the content (first cell of row 2 to first cell of fifth row) apply to the rest of the content.

So i wanna combine the above mentioned 4 cells.

Do you know how to do this using NVDA?

Thanks,


Re: NVDA not reading books in kindle book viewer

Rowen Cary
 

HI Richard!
I will try, thank you very much.


Re: Why are some Greek letters read in Unicode values, not with their actual letter

 

When I read them with ESpeak's Greek voice, it reads what sounds like Greek. I'm not sure it is as simple as them not being Greek letters.





On 3/17/2021 12:54 AM, Brian Tew wrote:
I read your message on an ipad. It knows greek and  a zillion other languages.
some of these characters it says unpronouncable, so I suspect they are not really greek letters.


Re: Why are some Greek letters read in Unicode values, not with their actual letter

Brian Tew
 

I read your message on an ipad. It knows greek and  a zillion other languages.
some of these characters it says unpronouncable, so I suspect they are not really greek letters.


locked Re: jackson tts

Nimer Jaber
 

Excellent. In that case, this thread and any created afterward are to be locked. Let's move on.


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:05 PM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The author has realised the error, and asked for links to the voice to be removed while he works out the legal aspects of it.  I believe it was simply an oversight by someone who is young and enthusiastic, I don't think there was any intent to act illegally or deceive anyone.  

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 1:52 PM Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
On 3/16/2021 7:44 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> As, it says, a demo.  It is clearly against the terms to distribute, as
> that would constitute use as a specific application, unless he has
> licensed it properly. Has he?
>

Surely that's between him and Acapela. Acapela is an active company, and
if it was truly illegal then they would deal with it.
It should not be up to us to say what is legal or what's not, since
there might be other contracts involved that we simply don't know about,
separate from the Terms of Service on the website.







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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



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