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Re: need help removing avast

Margus Ojaots
 

could someone use nvda remote and remove avast for me?

2019-05-07 17:54 GMT +03:00, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>:

I can't explain that.  It's been a while, but when I removed Avast using the
Control Panel when I last removed it I just got the standard, "Do you want
to uninstall this program?," dialog.  There was nothing special about it.

The only other thing I can recommend, if Control Panel is not accessible for
Avast removal, is to download and use the Avast Uninstaller Utility (
https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility ).
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Re: need help removing avast

 

I can't explain that.  It's been a while, but when I removed Avast using the Control Panel when I last removed it I just got the standard, "Do you want to uninstall this program?," dialog.  There was nothing special about it.

The only other thing I can recommend, if Control Panel is not accessible for Avast removal, is to download and use the Avast Uninstaller Utility.
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Re: need help removing avast

Margus Ojaots
 

i clicked it but i cant movie anywhere, it doesnt say anything

2019-05-07 17:47 GMT +03:00, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>:

Why not simply use Control Panel, Programs & Features?   Find Avast,
activate the Uninstall link.
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Re: need help removing avast

 

Why not simply use Control Panel, Programs & Features?   Find Avast, activate the Uninstall link.
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need help removing avast

Margus Ojaots
 

Hello. Avast antivirus came with another program. Now, i would like to
remove it, but it doesnt say anything when moving with tab or arrows.
Can someone help?


Re: Please help me: About background color in word 2010 with NVDA.

 

Yes, that works.
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Weather_Plus 6.0 available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi to every one,


Note for those who were using versions 5 of Weather_Plus (Apixu API)::

The list of cities you have is not compatible with this new version, don't worry, Weather_Plus will allow you to retrieve them via the settings window.

Changes in this version:

??? Weather Plus returns to using the Yahoo Weather API.
??? Virtually all the features of the previous version 4.8 are back and keeps the "Rename" button.

??? Now compatible also with Python 3.

??? NVDA compatibility: 2017.3 to 2019.1

Weather_Plus can update itself, however you can download it from the following page:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Thanks in advance Noelia, Remy, Abdel, and Svonimir for yoursgreat commitment to include Weather_Plus in the automatic translation system and restoring the download link on the international page.


Best regards

Adriano Barbieri


Re: Please help me: About background color in word 2010 with NVDA.

prem.translator@...
 

Thank you for your reply. However, I have one more question. 
Is this work for doing one word at a time (without using find and replace)? 
- Bolt the keyword. 
- Then select it using CTRL + Shift + left/right arrow. 
- After that pressing ALT + H + I and choose the color. 
 
Does it work? 
 
Thank you. 


Re: Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

 

Quentin,
When I answered I was experiencing the same situation, I really hadn't thought about it as much as I should.

The truth is, for me, when NVDA frozes, the only thing we can do is really restart it.
But it doesn't happen for me only in browse mode, nor even only when I'm looking at some website or something like that, that's why I said I don't know if we are talking about the same situation here.
What I noticed is that no matter where I happen to be, when it happens, NVDA simply keeps talking until I restart it or there isn't anything else to report.
That is to say that CTRL command doesn't work, nor does any key. It just keeps there, lost in its own way.

Well I don't know if my comments help in any way but thought I'd explain my situation a little better so I did it now.

Cheers,
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Em 07/05/2019 01:42, Quentin Christensen disse:

Also, which browser are you in?

In Firefox, if you are in focus mode, and press NVDA+control+f it will say "Toolbar, find in page edit", but the control is Firefox's find function, not NVDA's.?? If you press TAB from there, the focus will move to a "Highlight all" button.?? (The find function in Firefox visually highlights the term you search for, but does not move NVDA's focus there).

In Chrome, the same basic thing happens if you are in focus mode - NVDA reports "Find in page edit", and if you press tab, it moves to the "Previous button".?? In Browse mode, NVDA's find dialog should open in either browser.

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:21 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

You need to ensure you are in browse mode for NVDA+ctrl+f to work.

??

Cheers

Chris

??

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Sent: 6 May 2019 18:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

??

I experience this very same thing a lot of times.
Never knew what it's all about and would love to find the cause for such an annoyance like this one. So I'll be paying close attention to this thread :)
Thanks for this.


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

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Em 06/05/2019 13:43, Felix G. disse:

Hi,
has anyone else come across this? I go to a web page, let's say
YouTube, then press NVDA+CTRL+f to search for something, and NVDA
locks up completely. CTRL+ALT+n always brings it back so all is never
lost, but still ...
The log file is silent on this, but then it was only set to info where
debug might have yielded more useful data. Then again, I wasn't
anticipating this thing, and I have no idea how to reproduce it
because most of the time that hotkey just does as it should without
giving me grief.
Nondeterminism seems to be at the root of all that I don't like!
All the best,
Felix
??
??
??
??

??



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Re: Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

Quentin Christensen
 

If you could gather a log at "debug" level when it happens, that would be great - email to me at info@..., and we can look at why it might be happening, as it is certainly not a desired situation!

Also, are you using any add-ons?  If so, are they up to date?  And even if so, if you press NVDA+Q and then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER, when NVDA restarts, do you still have the freeze?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 5:49 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,
it happened in Chrome, and I was definitely in browse mode when it
happened. Also, NVDA froze, that is, things like NVDA+F12 didn't work.
Only a restart of NVDA did the trick, which is a great thing as it
shows your emergency procedures are really fit for emergency.
All the best,
Felix

Am Di., 7. Mai 2019 um 06:42 Uhr schrieb Quentin Christensen
<quentin@...>:
>
> Also, which browser are you in?
>
> In Firefox, if you are in focus mode, and press NVDA+control+f it will say "Toolbar, find in page edit", but the control is Firefox's find function, not NVDA's.  If you press TAB from there, the focus will move to a "Highlight all" button.  (The find function in Firefox visually highlights the term you search for, but does not move NVDA's focus there).
>
> In Chrome, the same basic thing happens if you are in focus mode - NVDA reports "Find in page edit", and if you press tab, it moves to the "Previous button".  In Browse mode, NVDA's find dialog should open in either browser.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:21 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
>>
>> You need to ensure you are in browse mode for NVDA+ctrl+f to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
>> Sent: 6 May 2019 18:20
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f
>>
>>
>>
>> I experience this very same thing a lot of times.
>> Never knew what it's all about and would love to find the cause for such an annoyance like this one. So I'll be paying close attention to this thread :)
>> Thanks for this.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marcio
>>
>> AKA Starboy
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
>>
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>>
>> Em 06/05/2019 13:43, Felix G. disse:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> has anyone else come across this? I go to a web page, let's say
>>
>> YouTube, then press NVDA+CTRL+f to search for something, and NVDA
>>
>> locks up completely. CTRL+ALT+n always brings it back so all is never
>>
>> lost, but still ...
>>
>> The log file is silent on this, but then it was only set to info where
>>
>> debug might have yielded more useful data. Then again, I wasn't
>>
>> anticipating this thing, and I have no idea how to reproduce it
>>
>> because most of the time that hotkey just does as it should without
>>
>> giving me grief.
>>
>> Nondeterminism seems to be at the root of all that I don't like!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Felix
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

Felix G.
 

Hi Quentin,
it happened in Chrome, and I was definitely in browse mode when it
happened. Also, NVDA froze, that is, things like NVDA+F12 didn't work.
Only a restart of NVDA did the trick, which is a great thing as it
shows your emergency procedures are really fit for emergency.
All the best,
Felix

Am Di., 7. Mai 2019 um 06:42 Uhr schrieb Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org>:


Also, which browser are you in?

In Firefox, if you are in focus mode, and press NVDA+control+f it will say "Toolbar, find in page edit", but the control is Firefox's find function, not NVDA's. If you press TAB from there, the focus will move to a "Highlight all" button. (The find function in Firefox visually highlights the term you search for, but does not move NVDA's focus there).

In Chrome, the same basic thing happens if you are in focus mode - NVDA reports "Find in page edit", and if you press tab, it moves to the "Previous button". In Browse mode, NVDA's find dialog should open in either browser.

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:21 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

You need to ensure you are in browse mode for NVDA+ctrl+f to work.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 6 May 2019 18:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f



I experience this very same thing a lot of times.
Never knew what it's all about and would love to find the cause for such an annoyance like this one. So I'll be paying close attention to this thread :)
Thanks for this.


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy



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Em 06/05/2019 13:43, Felix G. disse:

Hi,

has anyone else come across this? I go to a web page, let's say

YouTube, then press NVDA+CTRL+f to search for something, and NVDA

locks up completely. CTRL+ALT+n always brings it back so all is never

lost, but still ...

The log file is silent on this, but then it was only set to info where

debug might have yielded more useful data. Then again, I wasn't

anticipating this thing, and I have no idea how to reproduce it

because most of the time that hotkey just does as it should without

giving me grief.

Nondeterminism seems to be at the root of all that I don't like!

All the best,

Felix











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Highlight Colors with NVDA in Word and Outlook

Ed Marquette
 

This question was inspired both by a problem I’ve been having and by the post about colors in Word.
Sighted people like to use “highlight” in email messages and in draft word documents.
This highlighting, I think, is just shifting the background color to a constant.  The highlight color may be changed, but it is often yellow.  One may search for this highlighting in Word (not sure about Outlook).  
I cannot get NVDA to identify this highlighted text.  NVDA Key + f does not disclose that the text is highlighted or that the colors have changed.  I’ve pressed NVDA Key + F on highlighted text and, within the same line, text that is not highlighted, and the same colors are reported.
I’ve searched the entire keyboard, using keyboard help the NVDA Key and some other key combination.  So far, I have come up empty.
Surely I am missing something.  This problem  has to have been experienced by others.

Thank you for any assistance you may furnish.
 


On May 6, 2019, at 5:19 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

By the way, this topic really has nothing to do with NVDA, and everything to do with MS-Word.  I got carried away myself and then realized, afterward, that everything I'd done to get the steps is completely independent of NVDA - it's all applicable only to MS-Word whether one is using a screen reader or not.

If there are more questions on this we need to move it to the Chat Subgroup, as it really doesn't belong here:
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Re: Ask about NVDA training Manual.

Quentin Christensen
 

In short, yes it is something we know is popular and plan to release (this is the second question on this very topic since the Outlook module came out last week - not complaining, just illustrating that it is wanted, and do please let me know what you want).  I don't have a timeline at this point.

Quentin.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:19 PM <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Regarding future training tutorial, for now, there are both Word and Excel. Do you have a plan to release PowerPoint training for NVDA from basic useage ? like viewing and editing presentation as well as creating it from scratch?
 
Thank you. 



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Re: How can I use the cursor in Eset Not32 Antivirus by Nvda

Raha Tehrani
 

Hi. there's a trusted zone in many anti virus programs. this zone
tells the program which apps can be fully trusted. at the first
glance, the anti virus may consider the screen-reader a disturbing
program which always checks up on the pressed keys as a keylogger to
find out what's going on. so, it will prevent the screen-reader from
freely having access to what it needs. that's why I suggest you should
include NVDA in the trusted zone list of your anti virus. the
instructions may differ from anti virus to another one. in the case of
eset smart security, you can search the instructions at google or
wherever you like.
all the best.
Take care.

On 5/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Jarek,

Anti-virus programs seem to be among the worst offenders when it comes to
accessibility. There is a thread in the "Chat" group about it currently
(since it came up with a couple of other AV's as well just before you
joined the group).

Partly for that reason, I have only personally used Microsoft's built-in
Windows 10 defender lately. Hopefully someone else can offer some
suggestions on working with Eset. One suggestion I would make, is to write
to Eset and make sure they are also aware of the issues with their
software, as they are the best ones to fix the problems.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 7:49 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz> wrote:

Hello,

I decided to write to this conference, because I have a problem with
using the cursor in Eset by Nvda.

When I start Eset, I can't start the controll of the computer, because
the keyboard doesn't react, Nvda says: Unknown.

I must use the Ocr for do it.

I would like to solve this problem.

Sincerely:

Jarek




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Re: Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

Quentin Christensen
 

Also, which browser are you in?

In Firefox, if you are in focus mode, and press NVDA+control+f it will say "Toolbar, find in page edit", but the control is Firefox's find function, not NVDA's.  If you press TAB from there, the focus will move to a "Highlight all" button.  (The find function in Firefox visually highlights the term you search for, but does not move NVDA's focus there).

In Chrome, the same basic thing happens if you are in focus mode - NVDA reports "Find in page edit", and if you press tab, it moves to the "Previous button".  In Browse mode, NVDA's find dialog should open in either browser.

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:21 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

You need to ensure you are in browse mode for NVDA+ctrl+f to work.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 6 May 2019 18:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freeze when pressing NVDA+CTRL+f

 

I experience this very same thing a lot of times.
Never knew what it's all about and would love to find the cause for such an annoyance like this one. So I'll be paying close attention to this thread :)
Thanks for this.


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

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Em 06/05/2019 13:43, Felix G. disse:

Hi,
has anyone else come across this? I go to a web page, let's say
YouTube, then press NVDA+CTRL+f to search for something, and NVDA
locks up completely. CTRL+ALT+n always brings it back so all is never
lost, but still ...
The log file is silent on this, but then it was only set to info where
debug might have yielded more useful data. Then again, I wasn't
anticipating this thing, and I have no idea how to reproduce it
because most of the time that hotkey just does as it should without
giving me grief.
Nondeterminism seems to be at the root of all that I don't like!
All the best,
Felix
 
 
 
 

 



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Re: key assignments in NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I personally would not use object nav with my num pad in laptop mode but I'm too used to the ones for laptop. They just seem more easier to access as my hand does not have to travel far.

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On 6 May 2019, at 19:54, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?

Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the NUMPAD using object navigation keys.



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Re: key assignments in NVDA

Gene
 

It is logical to have desktop keys where laptop keys are provided that are different, released, whatever they are.  All keys that are active and do the same things in both layouts would remain active.  But why have keys that are only active in the desktop layout and that are duplicated by different keys in the laptop layout remain active when the laptop layout is used?
 
People may disagree with this for some reason and I hope they comment, but I have never understood the reason why desktop keys remain active in laptop layout when separate laptop commands are available in laptop layout.  Laptop layout commands aren't available in desktop layout.
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] key assignments in NVDA

I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?

Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the NUMPAD using object navigation keys.



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Re: key assignments in NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?

Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.

Quentin.

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the NUMPAD using object navigation keys.



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Ask about NVDA training Manual.

prem.translator@...
 

Regarding future training tutorial, for now, there are both Word and Excel. Do you have a plan to release PowerPoint training for NVDA from basic useage ? like viewing and editing presentation as well as creating it from scratch?
 
Thank you. 


Re: nvda key v

 

Well, this time I don't understood you.
Was your answer regarding what I wrote or about what Gene wrote? Because is message is just below mine so I'm a bit confused here :/

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Em 06/05/2019 19:16, Sarah k Alawami disse:

I'm comign from the mac on this, but my home, end, page upa nd page down functions speak like such.

"home: moves to the beginning of the document and reads it." etc etc etc. So I don't mind the verbose. What if I didn't know these meanings in my language. I of corse do, butjust as an example.

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On 6 May 2019, at 14:02, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

No worries, there's a solution. What you think?
There would be an option to check/uncheck which would tell NVDA whhether the commands should be reported or not if one isn't on the window where it should work.
By default, of course, the option would be unchecked so as to have NVDA behaving as it is currently. It would just add one more option for those wanting it.

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Em 06/05/2019 17:51, Gene disse:
What about all the quick navigation commands??? Obviously, for someone just wanting to hear the letters when not in browse mode, you don't want other functions announced.?? What about home and end, for example??? In general, you want to know where they are on an unfamiliar keyboard.?? You don't want to hear an explanation of what they do.?? Be careful what you wich for.??
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda key v

Agreed.
Actually I was going to say that indeed when you are in browse mode it does report what the keystroke would do but well that's it.
In my opinion it would be better this way as well.
For example a command that only works on Word should be stated as this but it's not to say that it couldn't be reported out of the Word window. It just would need to tell "it, in Word, does this and that".

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Em 06/05/2019 17:17, Sarah k Alawami disse:

I'm too used to any ep saying the command even when not in browse mode for example I think it should in my humble opinion say "while in browse mode does x y and z' instead of nothing.

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On 6 May 2019, at 13:05, Gene wrote:

Did you check while in browse mode??? If a key only functions under certain conditions, you must be working under those conditions for the command to do what it is stated it will do and it is necessary to be under those conditions to have it described in input help.?? You must be in browse mode.
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda key v

Oh, my bad.
I just checked and indeed, with the NVDA help mode on, pressing NVDA+shift V doesn't report anything at all.
Then again it's described on the keystrokes reference as I just said.

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Em 06/05/2019 16:34, marcio via Groups.Io disse:
Em 06/05/2019 16:22, Sarah k Alawami disse:

even in keyboard help that keystroke does not exist. I mean it exists but is ot assigned to anything according to nvda's keyboard help.

From the keystroke refference:
Use screen layout
NVDA+v
NVDA+v
This option allows you to specify whether content in browse mode should place content such as links and other fields on their own line, or if it should keep them in the flow of text as it is visually shown. If the option is enabled then things will stay as they are visually shown, but if it is disabled then fields will be placed on their own line.
Are you seeing anything other than that?

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