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Re: NVDA and thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


if you are opening it in a new window it will read it out 3 times but if you press the enter key on the message then use the say all command you will only get it the once.


Some people will use the up arrow key but then it only reads the first line or they may have it set to skim reading.


Others will open it in a new tab for there message.


The easiest is just use the say all command after you have opened the message quickly.


Gene nz


On 30/04/2019 9:42 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Within the last week or so using latest version of Thunderbird, when hitting enter on the message, NVDA repeats the subject line at least 3 times. Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
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NVDA and thunderbird

Brice Mijares
 

Within the last week or so using latest version of Thunderbird, when hitting enter on the message, NVDA repeats the subject line at least 3 times. Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
latest windows ten Essentials.
windows version: Windows 10Ver1809 (64-bit) build 17763.437


Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 03:15 PM, Gene wrote:
. . . JAWS.  Just in case you do, I'll start with a brief discussion.  it also directly bears on the later NVDA discussion.
Just to "make this official" this is not a group where the name of JAWS may never be uttered, and particularly in a context such as you've done here, Gene.

Comparing and contrasting feature sets (and/or the lack thereof) is a perfectly legitimate framing device here, and I've seen the same done on the JAWS forum with regard to NVDA as well.   Very often the question is of the basic type, "How can I OR Can I do thing X with JAWS that I can do with NVDA?," or vice versa.  

So long as we don't go into JAWS bashing or long rapturous praise of one screen reader while denigrating the other, which there's no trace of here, everything's copacetic.  Every screen reader has it's really strong points and its weaknesses, and very often each has some niche where it's "the only one" that plays well with something.  That's why I've always encouraged my students to learn the basics of at least one alternative screen reader (typically NVDA, but now Narrator will be "in the pool") because I can guarantee them that at one point or another their favored screen reader will not "play well" with something they need to deal with relatively quickly, and the other will.

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Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

Gene
 

I am assuming you don't have access to JAWS.  Just in case you do, I'll start with a brief discussion.  it also directly bears on the later NVDA discussion.
 
You may want to see what happens in JAWS if you set the screen echo to all.  Or in JAWS, you could make a frame to read the part of the screen where new information appears automatically. You could also assign a command to read the information in the frame.
 
I haven't used any terminals except Hyperterminal a long time ago so while I think my comments are relevant, others may want to respond.  NVDA very much needs an equivalent to frames in JAWS so the user can define parts of the screen to take actions or do something such as read text when it changes or when specified text appears.  This sort of thing can be done by someone who would make an NVDA  script for you but how you might find such a person is something I can't comment on.
Gene
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Well there are some terminal programs that seem to not work with any
screenreader. I suspect they have a kind of screen that looks like the
terminal, but in fact is not. I've not used anything like this in years.
These days I use it for direct commands and also run batch files which in
the main have only textual output anyway.
 Being blind the formatting of the output is  not very high on my priority
list in fact!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection
Workplace


Hi

I’m not sure this is relevant any more as it’s several years since I worked
using a terminal emulator and it was Attachmate Extra with Jaws at that
time, so I apologise in advance if this information is no good to you.  I
used it to emulate an IBM 3270 terminal and I had to re-class the Extra
window as a Multi-tab dialog.  The other thing was getting Jaws to recognise
the Cursor, which was configurable withing the Extra settings, where it was
possible to tweak the shape an blink rate, such that Jaws could recognise
it.  If I remember correctly, the underline character worked best but I can’t
remember the blink rate.



I don’t understand what you mean by setting a class of terminal to your
window as on the PC side it harps back to the old DOS days and batch files.



Cheers

Chris



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Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC) via Groups.Io
Sent: 29 April 2019 15:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace



Hi,
 I'm having a hard time using Micro Focus Reflection Workspace.  It's a
terminal emulator. I cannot hear the data as it is presented to the screen.
I have to manually fire off a read all keystroke or navigate to the bottom
of the window and manually explore the last couple of lines.  I have Dynamic
Content turned on.  I also have an app module created that sets the window
class to a terminal.
But still, the text i type and the new text that scrolls up onto the window
are not automatically speaking. Has anyone used this product with success?
thanks,
 chris










Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

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Well there are some terminal programs that seem to not work with any screenreader. I suspect they have a kind of screen that looks like the terminal, but in fact is not. I've not used anything like this in years. These days I use it for direct commands and also run batch files which in the main have only textual output anyway.
Being blind the formatting of the output is not very high on my priority list in fact!
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace


Hi

I’m not sure this is relevant any more as it’s several years since I worked using a terminal emulator and it was Attachmate Extra with Jaws at that time, so I apologise in advance if this information is no good to you. I used it to emulate an IBM 3270 terminal and I had to re-class the Extra window as a Multi-tab dialog. The other thing was getting Jaws to recognise the Cursor, which was configurable withing the Extra settings, where it was possible to tweak the shape an blink rate, such that Jaws could recognise it. If I remember correctly, the underline character worked best but I can’t remember the blink rate.



I don’t understand what you mean by setting a class of terminal to your window as on the PC side it harps back to the old DOS days and batch files.



Cheers

Chris



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Sent: 29 April 2019 15:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace



Hi,
I'm having a hard time using Micro Focus Reflection Workspace. It's a terminal emulator. I cannot hear the data as it is presented to the screen. I have to manually fire off a read all keystroke or navigate to the bottom of the window and manually explore the last couple of lines. I have Dynamic Content turned on. I also have an app module created that sets the window class to a terminal.
But still, the text i type and the new text that scrolls up onto the window are not automatically speaking. Has anyone used this product with success?
thanks,
chris


Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

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Well in addition to all of the others comments. You do not say if it used to work. Did you originally have it auto start and now its stopped doing that? If you did then something has changed on the machine. If its a shared machine best get some eyes to find out or better still ask them exactly what they did or we could be chasing our tails all day. One assumes the sound on the machine is not muted, a common thing for sighted users to do by fair means or foul.
Otherwise I had an occasion when a program installed itself and pinched the shortcut for n itself without even asking!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh" <mohd.ahtesham@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 11:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space


[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: wrong subject: It should be ctrl + alt +N and not (space)]

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,

Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?

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Yes the ducking on disco gear could have the time constants varied too so it could duck fast recover slow etc, and these days a lot of this is done in software but in them there days (leans on old gnarled walking stick) it were all done by analogue circuitry.
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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?


Also, think about this as a side chane compressor which is what nvda and
jaws and other screen readers are doing. If you don't know about that
google "side chane compression."

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On 29 Apr 2019, at 1:54, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Well it goes back to the old disco days. The DJ would duck the sound
of his or hers music to make announcements, so you had best ask them
why they called it that. Indeed on the deck I had the control was
called ducking and faded down the music and up on the microphone in a
controlled and linear way. Its merely a mixing control so mixing level
might be an even better term for this function but as Microsoft used
Ducking themselves I have to deduce that those writing the docs are
all old DJs! grin.

Now back to normal questions.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi"
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To: "NVDA Official Group" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 6:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?


Hi Group,


Well, I'm the clown--I mean--person who mistakenly kept calling the
word 'ducking' 'ducting.' I don't have good hearing and I just
assumed without ever looking at it all these years that it must be
'ducting.' That seemed to make more sense.


A quick look at Wictionary shows that ducking has to do with the
quick avoidance of an object, circumstance or issue. He ducked when
the rock was thrown at him. The politician ducked the question put to
him by an aggressive journalist.


Ducting on the other hand is the process of channeling fluid, air or
some substance into a channel or multiple ducting into separate
channels--such as for example 2 sound sources being seperated with
one given prominence when they conflict. It would seem to me that
'ducting' would be a better choice for calling what NVDA does as well
as JAWS and Apple products. They separate and make one source
prominent over another.


So just how is the term 'ducking' used in this context to refer to
what NVDA does? Inquiring minds want to know.


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Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I’m not sure this is relevant any more as it’s several years since I worked using a terminal emulator and it was Attachmate Extra with Jaws at that time, so I apologise in advance if this information is no good to you.  I used it to emulate an IBM 3270 terminal and I had to re-class the Extra window as a Multi-tab dialog.  The other thing was getting Jaws to recognise the Cursor, which was configurable withing the Extra settings, where it was possible to tweak the shape an blink rate, such that Jaws could recognise it.  If I remember correctly, the underline character worked best but I can’t remember the blink rate.

 

I don’t understand what you mean by setting a class of terminal to your window as on the PC side it harps back to the old DOS days and batch files.

 

Cheers

Chris        

 

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Sent: 29 April 2019 15:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

 

Hi,
 I'm having a hard time using Micro Focus Reflection Workspace.  It's a terminal emulator. I cannot hear the data as it is presented to the screen. I have to manually fire off a read all keystroke or navigate to the bottom of the window and manually explore the last couple of lines.  I have Dynamic Content turned on.  I also have an app module created that sets the window class to a terminal.
But still, the text i type and the new text that scrolls up onto the window are not automatically speaking. Has anyone used this product with success?
thanks,
 chris


Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

 

Oops, scratch that last message.  I've been jumping between multiple groups, and had just addressed a message in chat and thought I was still there.

Carry on.

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Re: Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

 

Chris,

            FYI, this question is 100% legit for the main group, and would probably get a lot more traction there.  It deals directly with using NVDA with a specific program.
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Re: Questions About Add-ons

 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:23 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
but are there other add-ons that would cause NVDA to be more resource intensive?
In the grand scheme of things, this question is meaningless, in that "resource intensive" is always relative to other demands at the time and "other demands at the time" are directly dependent on an individual user's usage patterns.

It's not that one cannot identify add-ons that are, relative to others, "resource intensive" but they could be hideously resource intensive and still fly along on the machine of a user that has relatively low demands otherwise.

If we're talking about modern (and by modern I don't mean brand new, but not "built in the XP era") hardware the only way to answer the question you ask from a truly functional standpoint is via direct experiment.   And given the ease of doing those and then discarding something that "makes life miserable" that's precisely what I'm suggesting is best practice.
 
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Re: Questions About Add-ons

Richard Wells
 

I want to target NVDA specifically with my concerns. Are there NVDA
add-ons that require more CPU time. Large footprint speech synthesis
would be an obvious one, but are there other add-ons that would cause
NVDA to be more resource intensive?

On 4/28/2019 11:00 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it depends on your system what it is, the speed of the processer,
and what you have loaded.

Now as a blind person I have only what I need.

So, things like drivers for my realtech and other multimedia card if
they control effects etc, can be headphones, etc.

Mice if you need those loaded, microsoft and logitech spring to mind.

Antivirus and security, and any updaters you deem you want running.

If you need it, cloud programs and those can get a bit hairy to keep
loaded.

Sadly sightlings need skype and itunes loaded and you may need that to
if you use skype regularly and or have an i device and those can be
big programs.

Take all you load at startup into account then the speed of your
system and see if you need all of that and nvda loaded.

For example my system can handle all the program addons I ever need,
maybe more but I don't push it over the 30 I have loaded or so.

If you want to use a synth those can get big, if its not espeak or
windows itself that is.

Memmory is another thing to but even so, its system spaciffic.

If you use a low spec system only load what you need.

A higher spec system load what you want but realise some stuff will be
slower.

Remember every service you load is a program, definitely anything that
has a interface is a program.

Nvda is a program.

One thing I do when maintaining a computer say a sightling system
which is low grade and will crash if I load more than 1-2 programs, I
always ilimonate nvda from the equasion, because nvda itself is a
program.

The sighted user may handle 2 programs fine but maybe not 3 or 4.

Windows 10 likes to load programs, turning off all the background apps
you  except what you need is a good start.

Then follow that with startup programs.

I assume win8 is the same.

with 7, I have been able to turn off a lot more and get away with it.

And in xp you can vertually not load anything at all at startup
including systray and still have a usable system.

And below xp win 98 and back to 95 especially, you could have
everything not load at startup and still get speech.

But you can't do that no more though.



On 29/04/2019 12:50 PM, Richard Wells wrote:
May I ask a series of really stupid questions about add-ons? Should a
person be judicial about which add-ons one installs? Is there a
potential for slowing down NVDA processes by installing extra add-ons
that may not be needed beyond the specific tasks a user expects to
perform?




.


Re: So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Also, think about this as a side chane compressor which is what nvda and jaws and other screen readers are doing. If you don't know about that google "side chane compression."

Take care

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On 29 Apr 2019, at 1:54, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Well it goes back to the old disco days. The DJ would duck the sound of his or hers music to make announcements, so you had best ask them why they called it that. Indeed on the deck I had the control was called ducking and faded down the music and up on the microphone in a controlled and linear way. Its merely a mixing control so mixing level might be an even better term for this function but as Microsoft used Ducking themselves I have to deduce that those writing the docs are all old DJs! grin.

Now back to normal questions.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" aa2vm@...
To: "NVDA Official Group" nvda@groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 6:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?

Hi Group,

Well, I'm the clown--I mean--person who mistakenly kept calling the word 'ducking' 'ducting.' I don't have good hearing and I just assumed without ever looking at it all these years that it must be 'ducting.' That seemed to make more sense.

A quick look at Wictionary shows that ducking has to do with the quick avoidance of an object, circumstance or issue. He ducked when the rock was thrown at him. The politician ducked the question put to him by an aggressive journalist.

Ducting on the other hand is the process of channeling fluid, air or some substance into a channel or multiple ducting into separate channels--such as for example 2 sound sources being seperated with one given prominence when they conflict. It would seem to me that 'ducting' would be a better choice for calling what NVDA does as well as JAWS and Apple products. They separate and make one source prominent over another.

So just how is the term 'ducking' used in this context to refer to what NVDA does? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Re: So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?

Sarah k Alawami
 

No, ducking makes sense.

The audio was ducming under the music, or in this case of nvda, the music was ducking under the audio, hence audio ducking. Clear as mud? These are not two channel sources per say, not physically.

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On 28 Apr 2019, at 22:36, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

Well, I'm the clown--I mean--person who mistakenly kept calling the word 'ducking' 'ducting.'  I don't have good hearing and I just assumed without ever looking at it all these years that it must be 'ducting.'  That seemed to make more sense.

A quick look at Wictionary shows that ducking has to do with the quick avoidance of an object, circumstance or issue.  He ducked when the rock was thrown at him.  The politician ducked the question put to him by an aggressive journalist.

Ducting on the other hand is the process of channeling fluid, air or some substance into a channel or multiple ducting into separate channels--such as for example 2 sound sources being seperated with one given prominence when they conflict.  It would seem to me that 'ducting' would be a better choice for calling what NVDA does as well as JAWS and Apple products.  They separate and make one source prominent over another.

So just how is the term 'ducking' used in this context to refer to what NVDA does?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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Has anyone used NVDA with Micro Focus Reflection Workplace

Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC)
 

Hi,
 I'm having a hard time using Micro Focus Reflection Workspace.  It's a terminal emulator. I cannot hear the data as it is presented to the screen. I have to manually fire off a read all keystroke or navigate to the bottom of the window and manually explore the last couple of lines.  I have Dynamic Content turned on.  I also have an app module created that sets the window class to a terminal.
But still, the text i type and the new text that scrolls up onto the window are not automatically speaking. Has anyone used this product with success?
thanks,
 chris


Re: So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?

Ron Canazzi
 

Oh, OK, Now I get it: it came from the broadcast industry which obviously preceded the Internet/computer/voicing programs.


You learn something new every day; thanks much!

On 4/29/2019 4:54 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well it goes back to the old disco days. The  DJ would duck the sound of his or hers music to make announcements, so you had best ask them why they called it that. Indeed on the deck I had the control was called ducking and faded down the music and up on the microphone in a controlled and linear way. Its merely a mixing control so mixing level might be an even better term for this function but as Microsoft used Ducking themselves I have to deduce that those writing the docs are all old DJs! grin.

Now back to normal questions.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: "NVDA Official Group" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 6:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] So Why Is It Called Ducking Anyway?


Hi Group,


Well, I'm the clown--I mean--person who mistakenly kept calling the word 'ducking' 'ducting.' I don't have good hearing and I just assumed without ever looking at it all these years that it must be 'ducting.' That seemed to make more sense.


A quick look at Wictionary shows that ducking has to do with the quick avoidance of an object, circumstance or issue. He ducked when the rock was thrown at him. The politician ducked the question put to him by an aggressive journalist.


Ducting on the other hand is the process of channeling fluid, air or some substance into a channel or multiple ducting into separate channels--such as for example 2 sound sources being seperated with one given prominence when they conflict. It would seem to me that 'ducting' would be a better choice for calling what NVDA does as well as JAWS and Apple products. They separate and make one source prominent over another.


So just how is the term 'ducking' used in this context to refer to what NVDA does? Inquiring minds want to know.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Gene
 

Your subject line says alt space.  What does that mean?  Are you using the correct shortcuts?  Are you using an installed or a portable version?  Also, a setting in Windows may be preventing shortcut commands from being set.  Have you tried creating your own short cut command?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 5:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Have you checked the shortcut key combination has not been accidentally changed or removed?  Find the NVDA entry on your desktop and press alt+enter.  Tab down to the shortcut key field and check that it is set to Ctrl+alt+n, if it is not just type n then tab to Ok and press enter, if it is, press escape.

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
Sent: 29 April 2019 11:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: wrong subject: It should be ctrl + alt +N and not (space)]

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Chris
 

Probably because the desktop shortcut for nvda has been moved or deleted

 

 

From: Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
Sent: 29 April 2019 11:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

 

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: wrong subject: It should be ctrl + alt +N and not (space)]

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office

 


not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 
Edited

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office