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Re: Bible Programs

Ian Blackburn
 

hi Ralph

You can try

Theophilos
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http://www.theophilos.com/

You will have to make adjustments for accessibility in the settings. I used to use it ages ago.


/For bible programmes depends what you want to do. I find that most of the off line programmes are not too accessible.

Again what do you want to do? Bible Gateway is a good website and they have afar Ely accessible iPhone app.

If all you want to be able to do fairly easily is to read various translations of the bible then consider getting the dvds from Optasia Ministry
On them there is a linked html bible with over 15 versions on it. You can use any version that is there and go to any verse fairly easily. You cannot display a single verse though.

This is a very helpful tool if you want to be able to read bibles when you are not connected to the internet. It is my choice for reading bible in braille as you can put the whole directory on to a braille note taker and make the index.htm file a favourite in your web browser.

http://www.optasiaministry.org/

on their DVDS there are loads of text resources on various topics.

kind regards
Ian

On 29/03/2019 8:11 am, Ralph Boersema wrote:

Dear All,

 

I asked this question a number of years ago and am now checking if there is any update. Does anyone know of a Bible program that is truly accessible?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: Bible Programs

Ralph Boersema
 

Dear Pascal,

 

Although it is a very basic program and does not have the more recent, copyrighted, versions of the Bible, it is the best I have found. However, having recently moved to a new computer and a new version of Windows 10, I now have some difficulty in navigating through a list of passages in a Find window. On the old computer, I could simply arrow my way through the list and use the tab key to move to the fields that allow me to do a new search. Now I have to use the number pad to navigate through the list of found passages and I cannot tab out of that list.

 

Warmly,

Ralph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bible Programs

 

Hi,

Bible Seeker is a very accessible program and works with NVDA.  It comes with several Bible versions and the Matthew Henry Commentary.  You can Google it.  If you cannot find it, let me know and I will email you the file.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bible Programs

 

Dear All,

 

I asked this question a number of years ago and am now checking if there is any update. Does anyone know of a Bible program that is truly accessible?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: Bible Programs

kavein thran
 

can youu send the program

On 3/29/19, Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi,

Bible Seeker is a very accessible program and works with NVDA. It comes
with several Bible versions and the Matthew Henry Commentary. You can
Google it. If you cannot find it, let me know and I will email you the
file.

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph
Boersema
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bible Programs



Dear All,



I asked this question a number of years ago and am now checking if there is
any update. Does anyone know of a Bible program that is truly accessible?



Warmly,

Ralph







Re: Bible Programs

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

Bible Seeker is a very accessible program and works with NVDA.  It comes with several Bible versions and the Matthew Henry Commentary.  You can Google it.  If you cannot find it, let me know and I will email you the file.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bible Programs

 

Dear All,

 

I asked this question a number of years ago and am now checking if there is any update. Does anyone know of a Bible program that is truly accessible?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Version 19.4 of Add-on Updater, Windows 10 App Essentials, StationPlaylist STudio #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Version 19.04 for the following add-ons are out or will come out in the next few hours:

 

  • Add-on Updater: now requires NVDA 2019.1. In compliance with add-on compatibility checks in NVDA, add-on updates will go through compatibility range checks (current NVDA release falls between minimum and last tested NVDA version range). This version also registers Image Describer so updates to that add-on can be checked.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: various bug fixes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: requires NVDA 2018.4. Resolves some long-standing bugs, including Mail app closure bug (included in latest alpha release but not in stable) and NvDA announcing odd text in Settings app (it wasn’t live text, but rather an incorrectly labeled window).

 

For SPL Studio users:

 

  1. Version 18.09.8-LTS will also hit the air in a few hours.
  2. After installing version 19.04 and when you start Studio 5.1x, you’ll be greeted with a message about end of support for that Studio release from the add-on. Studio add-on 19.06 will require Studio 5.20 and later.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Rui Fontes
 

The problem is that seems that some guys don't want to solve this very old bug...

I already gave one solution, heavily tested in the portuguese and brazilian community...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes


Às 00:39 de 29/03/2019, Ron Canazzi escreveu:

Hi Groups,
Here is a simple way to read the status line using NVDA.
1. Launch File Explorer.
2.  Make sure your screen reader is in screen review mode by pressing NVDA + numpad 7.
3. Press shift + numpad 9 to read the bottom of the screen.
4.  You should hear something like 781 items 1 item selected 3.52 MB.
I do wonder just why the old read status line with NVDA + end key does not work and hasn't worked since Windows XP but the work around isn't that difficult.
On 3/28/2019 3:22 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

It's much more convoluted to do it this way. I would consider myself to be an advanced user of NVDA, yet I found it difficult to find it. I could offer up another solution in the form of the Virtual Review add-on. When it is installed, press NVDA+Control+W while in Windows/File Explorer.
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Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Gene
 

I suspect that if you don't return to object Navigation mode, some things may not read as expected when you are working with the message list.  Is that the case?  I always return to object navigation mode when I am finished with screen navigation because you never know when staying in screen navigation may cause some sort of problem or problems when navigating, even when using the application commands such as arrow keys in a list.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Hi Groups,


Here is a simple way to read the status line using NVDA.


1. Launch File Explorer.

2.  Make sure your screen reader is in screen review mode by pressing NVDA + numpad 7.

3. Press shift + numpad 9 to read the bottom of the screen.

4.  You should hear something like 781 items 1 item selected 3.52 MB.


I do wonder just why the old read status line with NVDA + end key does not work and hasn't worked since Windows XP but the work around isn't that difficult.



On 3/28/2019 3:22 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

It's much more convoluted to do it this way. I would consider myself to be an advanced user of NVDA, yet I found it difficult to find it. I could offer up another solution in the form of the Virtual Review add-on. When it is installed, press NVDA+Control+W while in Windows/File Explorer.
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Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Groups,


Here is a simple way to read the status line using NVDA.


1. Launch File Explorer.

2.  Make sure your screen reader is in screen review mode by pressing NVDA + numpad 7.

3. Press shift + numpad 9 to read the bottom of the screen.

4.  You should hear something like 781 items 1 item selected 3.52 MB.


I do wonder just why the old read status line with NVDA + end key does not work and hasn't worked since Windows XP but the work around isn't that difficult.



On 3/28/2019 3:22 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

It's much more convoluted to do it this way. I would consider myself to be an advanced user of NVDA, yet I found it difficult to find it. I could offer up another solution in the form of the Virtual Review add-on. When it is installed, press NVDA+Control+W while in Windows/File Explorer.
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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Can't Post to Timeline with m.facebook.com

Annette Moore
 

Abbie, just to add to my response, I am using Windows 10 1809, NVDA 2019.1 and the latest version of Firefox.

annette

On 3/28/2019 5:54 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Okay, how do I click into the element? I tried object navigation, and that didn't seem to work. Thanks.

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Re: Can't Post to Timeline with m.facebook.com

Annette Moore
 

Hi, Abbie. After writing your post, tab to the "more" button, as though you're going to add a location, a feeling, etc., then tab or arrow down to the post button. it's there; it's just now you have to hit the more button after you're finished writing. It's not right beside the edit button like it used to be. Facebook is always breaking something. what's new, right? LOL!

Annette

On 3/28/2019 5:54 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Okay, how do I click into the element? I tried object navigation, and that didn't seem to work. Thanks.

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Bible Programs

Ralph Boersema
 

Dear All,

 

I asked this question a number of years ago and am now checking if there is any update. Does anyone know of a Bible program that is truly accessible?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

Gene
 

I saw a message saying that NVDA counts all headingts, or something similar.  I'm not sure why it thinks there are seven items but this isn't an NVDA problem.  I wanted to make that clear because it wasn't before.  I just tried with an old version of JAWS and an old version of firefox that is compatible with the old version of JAWS.  The same incorrect information is given so this is some error with the NVDA interface or code.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

That's been the case as long as I've used Firefox.  It appears that Firefox is sending information to the screen-reader giving an incorrect number of items.  Everything is in the list that I would expect to be in the list and I've never seen any other item discussed whenever I've looked up or seen a discussion of how to do anything in this area of the program.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

Hello guys,
Quite a while ago I posted about an issue regarding Firefox working with NVDA, where these little guys weren't wanting to read properly the options - plugins, extensions and such - as we went through them.
Well as said before by Brian - or at least one of the Brians we have here right now (LOL) - this is fortunately fixed, for what I'm infinitely thankful.
Trouble is, now when navigating through the options, I'm hearing something like that:
Plugins - 1 of 7
Extensions - 2 of 7
And so on until the fourth item.
And here's where thing gets weird. I just can't keep arrowing down to see the other 3 options that would be there according with the NVDA items' numbering.
So, all of this to ask, is anyone having this behavior using the latest Firefox version?
That's all guys.
Thanks.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Re: Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

Gene
 

That's been the case as long as I've used Firefox.  It appears that Firefox is sending information to the screen-reader giving an incorrect number of items.  Everything is in the list that I would expect to be in the list and I've never seen any other item discussed whenever I've looked up or seen a discussion of how to do anything in this area of the program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

Hello guys,
Quite a while ago I posted about an issue regarding Firefox working with NVDA, where these little guys weren't wanting to read properly the options - plugins, extensions and such - as we went through them.
Well as said before by Brian - or at least one of the Brians we have here right now (LOL) - this is fortunately fixed, for what I'm infinitely thankful.
Trouble is, now when navigating through the options, I'm hearing something like that:
Plugins - 1 of 7
Extensions - 2 of 7
And so on until the fourth item.
And here's where thing gets weird. I just can't keep arrowing down to see the other 3 options that would be there according with the NVDA items' numbering.
So, all of this to ask, is anyone having this behavior using the latest Firefox version?
That's all guys.
Thanks.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Re: Can't Access Group Messages Online

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 05:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
It actually had some down time according to an email I got in the beta group.
A total of 18 minutes:  8:34 AM - 8:52 AM this morning.   See:  Downtime this morning

There have been no other reported outages, nor scheduled maintenance, that I'm aware of in recent days.
 
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NVDA and Google backup and sync Windows client

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi all,
I recently start trying out the new backup and sync for Windows by google.
Yet, I found the following problems:
lots of unlabeled buttons durring installing and within the set up window
 login screen unable to progress as tabbing with NVDA cannot found the text field to input id and password.
I cannot go further cause I cannot even complete sign in progress with NVDA.
Are there anyone else do experience the same problem?
I have contact Google accessibility support and they told me that they couldn't reproduce the same issues LOL.
William


Re: NVDA And Outlook Autofill

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Rui, sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't. If there's only one recipient in the list, then naturally, arrowing down won't work, but even when there's more than one suggestion, NVDA only reads the first few letters I type. I thought this was fixed with the last update to NVDA but apparently not.

The best way to be sure you're sending your message to the right recipient is to press Alt plus Period after opening a new message. This opens a search field where you can type the first few letters of the recipient's name and press Enter and a list of suggestions should come up that can easily be navigated with the arrow keys. To CC someone, press Alt plus C. To BCC someone, press Alt plus B. You'll get that same search box where you can more easily find your preferred recipient. Alternatively, you can use the To, CC, and BCC buttons above the To field with the same result. 
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Re: Can't Post to Timeline with m.facebook.com

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Okay, how do I click into the element? I tried object navigation, and that didn't seem to work. Thanks.

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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

thank you sir.

On 3/29/2019 2:14 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


To grab the whole package of the runtime file and all the voices you can get it from the following link at https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rokrf6a4qijsvf/Speech%20Platform%2011%20engine%20and%20voices.zip?dl=0

I will leave it there for 24 hours or so.


It is in a zip format so it will need to be opened. There is 28 files or so. Locate the speech platform runtime one first it will then have to be installed all the rest with TTs are text to speech voices in english and other languages.


it is 340 meg with them all zipped so hopefully you are not on limited bandwith.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:58 AM, Narayan wrote:

Please provide the link of this.

On 29 March 2019 12:11:24 AM "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


If you do go down the speech platform way for your windows 7 machine let us know and i can drop box the engine  or is it called the driver with all the voices it has both in english and other languages etc.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
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Re: Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

 

Oh, got it.
Then it's not another new bug at all. Good to know :)

Cheers,
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Em 28/03/2019 19:19, Ralf Kefferpuetz disse:

I guess there are no other options, NVDA counts any header columns/rows into the index.

 

Cheers,

Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Donnerstag, 28. März 2019 22:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

 

Hello guys,
Quite a while ago I posted about an issue regarding Firefox working with NVDA, where these little guys weren't wanting to read properly the options - plugins, extensions and such - as we went through them.
Well as said before by Brian - or at least one of the Brians we have here right now (LOL) - this is fortunately fixed, for what I'm infinitely thankful.
Trouble is, now when navigating through the options, I'm hearing something like that:
Plugins - 1 of 7
Extensions - 2 of 7
And so on until the fourth item.
And here's where thing gets weird. I just can't keep arrowing down to see the other 3 options that would be there according with the NVDA items' numbering.
So, all of this to ask, is anyone having this behavior using the latest Firefox version?
That's all guys.
Thanks.

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy


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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Quentin Christensen
 

In 2019.1 we've reduced that pause between sentences with OneCore voices.  If that was your main issue, try OneCore voices again and see what you think of the change (do let us know).  Otherwise for the OP, as others have said, if you change your synth to eSpeak NG or any other, then:
1. Set your synth to eSpeak (or whatever you want) and make any other changes.
2. Press NVDA+control+c to save your settings
3. Open NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g
4. Tab to "Use Currently saved settings on Windows logon and other secure screens"
5. Press ENTER, then accept the warnings and notifications about copying settings etc.

We made the change in NVDA 2018.2 as a lot of new users found eSpeak NG very robotic and we felt that OneCore voices were at a point where they were quite useable for new users.  For users who preferred eSpeak NG, we still bundle it with NVDA and it is relatively easy to change to it (note that if you are upgrading from an earlier version of NVDA, you will keep your existing settings - the change to the default only affects new installations).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:00 AM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

The problem I found with the 1core voices was that there was always a really long pause between sentences, and a shorter but still annoying pause after commas. I was able to get rid of this by editing an .ini file within windows, but most times when there was a windows update, the setting went back to its default. Very irritating.

 

Someone suggested setting the rate within windows to its maximum, and setting the rate within NVDA to normal listening speed. This did seem to help the problem, although I can’t really say why. Now every time I turn on narrator, it’s incomprehensibly fast. :D

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: March 28, 2019 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

There is a procedure to speed up the One Core Voices.  I don't know it, I don't have Windows 10 and I'd probably far rather use Eloquence or Via Voice if I did, but I've seen the procedure written about before. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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