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Re: OT. Asking about eloquence option.

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Ok sir, thank you for valuable suggestion..

On 24 March 2019 6:09:33 PM "Gene" <gsasner@...> wrote:

It isn't off topic.  Its about using NVDA with a synthesizer. 
 
Eloquence can be purchased.  I'll let others discuss where to purchase it.  I don't know much about that.  You can purchase it as a SAPI 5 synthesizer and as part of an add-on that also contains another synthesizer. 
 
But the add-on has many annoying artifacts, sounds that I and a lot of people find very annoying. 
 
The SAPI 5 version doesn't have those artifacts.  They both have demos so the best thing to do is try them both and see what you think.
 
Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

If I have to use the eloquence synthesizer with nvda, how do I download it and do I need to pay for it?
Manoj


On Mar 24, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Narayan <krishnashree1221@...> wrote:

Thank you sir.

On 24 March 2019 4:04:52 PM "abdul muhamin" <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, this can be use to make eloquence sing, there are some codes, starts with backquote, the codes can effect pitch, inflection, volume, voice and other aspects of the synthesizer, when you turn this option on, and you read this type of code on the web, or in any text document, , the eloquence will behave differently

 

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From: Narayan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this

synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off.

I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used?

anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 

 


Re: OT. Asking about eloquence option.

Gene
 

It isn't off topic.  Its about using NVDA with a synthesizer. 
 
Eloquence can be purchased.  I'll let others discuss where to purchase it.  I don't know much about that.  You can purchase it as a SAPI 5 synthesizer and as part of an add-on that also contains another synthesizer. 
 
But the add-on has many annoying artifacts, sounds that I and a lot of people find very annoying. 
 
The SAPI 5 version doesn't have those artifacts.  They both have demos so the best thing to do is try them both and see what you think.
 
Gene

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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

If I have to use the eloquence synthesizer with nvda, how do I download it and do I need to pay for it?
Manoj


On Mar 24, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Narayan <krishnashree1221@...> wrote:

Thank you sir.

On 24 March 2019 4:04:52 PM "abdul muhamin" <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, this can be use to make eloquence sing, there are some codes, starts with backquote, the codes can effect pitch, inflection, volume, voice and other aspects of the synthesizer, when you turn this option on, and you read this type of code on the web, or in any text document, , the eloquence will behave differently

 

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From: Narayan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this

synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off.

I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used?

anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 

 


Re: OT. Asking about eloquence option.

Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

If I have to use the eloquence synthesizer with nvda, how do I download it and do I need to pay for it?
Manoj


On Mar 24, 2019, at 6:43 AM, Narayan <krishnashree1221@...> wrote:

Thank you sir.

On 24 March 2019 4:04:52 PM "abdul muhamin" <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, this can be use to make eloquence sing, there are some codes, starts with backquote, the codes can effect pitch, inflection, volume, voice and other aspects of the synthesizer, when you turn this option on, and you read this type of code on the web, or in any text document, , the eloquence will behave differently

 

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From: Narayan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this

synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off.

I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used?

anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 

 


Re: OT. Asking about eloquence option.

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Thank you sir.

On 24 March 2019 4:04:52 PM "abdul muhamin" <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, this can be use to make eloquence sing, there are some codes, starts with backquote, the codes can effect pitch, inflection, volume, voice and other aspects of the synthesizer, when you turn this option on, and you read this type of code on the web, or in any text document, , the eloquence will behave differently

 

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From: Narayan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this

synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off.

I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used?

anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 

 


Re: OT. Asking about eloquence option.

abdul muhamin
 

Hi, this can be use to make eloquence sing, there are some codes, starts with backquote, the codes can effect pitch, inflection, volume, voice and other aspects of the synthesizer, when you turn this option on, and you read this type of code on the web, or in any text document, , the eloquence will behave differently

 

Regards

Abdul Muhamin.

Chief content officer at

Blind Help Project

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Or

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From: Narayan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OT. Asking about eloquence option.

 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this

synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off.

I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used?

anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 

 


OT. Asking about eloquence option.

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Hi friends, I am using Eloquence with NVDA Screen reader. In this synthesizer there is one option called enable Back quote tag on or off. I found this in speech setting. for what purpose this option is used? anyone have idea? I hope someone can answer my question. best regards.

--
Shree


Re: It Happened Again

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Yes but bluetooth I have found to be really flaky. You are still using a driver though, otherwise how would it know which display you have, there has got to be handshaking there, and probably some latency as well.
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Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re- It Happened Again


I connect my BrailleNote Touch to my computer via Bluetooth, so I don't think I'm using a driver. Since the problem occurs most of the time in Word, I'll try loading it without braille connected and see if that makes a difference. Thanks to all of you for your suggestions.

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Re: My Log from Yesterday

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Which version of Firefox are you using? I know I had awful issues with the 32 bit version, but not with the 64 bit one. It might be an idea to remove it if its the former and install the latest version of the 64 bit version or indeed try Waterfox instead. I have both. I do not use Chrome, I find it a bit awkward to get used to so took it off the system.
As I say it might be a rogh driver for the display which for some reason is allowing odd characters to crash it perhaps sent through from Firefox.
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Subject: [nvda] Re- My Log from Yesterday


This is in response to the first of two logs I posted here yesterday after my computer crashed twice the day before. I suspect my Braille display is causing the problem, since I intermittently lose NVDA when it's connected. Here's an interesting thing, though. Firefox hasn't been working since those two crashes a couple of days ago. I was attempting to open Firefox when the crashes occurred, so that may have been the cause there. In any case, everything's working fine now, and I think I'll use Chrome from now on.

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Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

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Yes but normally once you are on the tray, at least in windows 7, the currently selected icon is ready so pressing space activates it, except when it does not of course. I do not use google as it crashes a lot, I use dropbox, but have seen this behaviour with other icons than normally the application key will open it proving its been selected.
The Intel network r protection window I think is because it is not paying any head to the settings ie single click to select double click to open and is opening when an item is selected for more than half a second or so.
That is my reading of that. Not sure both would be fixed by decoupling the mouse from the focus or not. There has to be fundamental programming differences in the way these icons work for the mouse issue to affect them differently.


It was also probably behind these dropbox invisible windows. If Dropbox has tweaked the alerts in the latest version somehow so this does not happen that would explain how they sorted it out. Interesting. Anyone care to take a stab at doing an issue on github?
Brian
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From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


Hi Kostadian,


I am using Windows 10 latest update with NVDA 2018.4 latest stable
release and I am able to access my One Drive icon with no problem.
There is an add on that simulates the JAWS equivalent with the NVDA +
F11 keystroke, but even without the add on, if you do the following, you
get the interface displayed.

1. Press Windows + B to move to the system tray.

2. Move to the open drive icon.

3. Route your mouse cursor to the application cursor with NVDA + numpad
slash.

4. initiate a right click with numpad star and a menu opens.


If you have the add on it's much simpler.

Press NVDA + F11, use first letter navigation to move to the open drive
icon and tab to the right click item and press enter.




On 3/23/2019 2:23 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray,
for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a
NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one,
but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least
the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA
(Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I
use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon
(OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a
single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA
commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window
for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person
which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is
different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For
some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved
to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and
for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the
command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With
Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not
get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there
and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window
appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves
the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets
moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons
in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be
surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network
Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate
such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle
them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not
the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the
explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

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Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

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What about the context menu?
Does that work, if it does then it means the mouse is there and its highlighted and just needs that extra command.
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From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io" <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


Yes, but it does nothing on the one drive system icon.

On 23/03/2019 18:58, Rui Fontes wrote:
Because of that the Systray addon was develloped...
Many times it is possible through the icons list activate that not cooperative buttons...

Rui Fontes


Às 18:52 de 23/03/2019, Gene escreveu:
I have seen this problem that occurs no matter how you try to activate one of the icons.
Gene
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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray

What happens if you hit enter or hit shift f10? Both shoudl do what you want to do.

Take care

On 23 Mar 2019, at 11:23, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system
tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it
was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader /
accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns
out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is
specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray.
I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon
(OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a
single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA
commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up
window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A
person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what
is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on.
For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets
moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor
there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution
of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse
click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse
cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus
gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the
OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves
the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets
moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons
in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be
surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network
Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as
well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to
activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to
handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This
is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing
the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



Re: weather plus

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,


Yes, that's right, but in the end I decided to give it a try and I got their authorization.


Regards

Adriano


Il 24/03/2019 06:31, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
But the Yahoo API has been modified as far as I can remember, so how the project will use it now?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 23/03/2019 12:50, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io disse:

Hi tio every one,

I announce you that Weather Plus will soon return with the Yahoo Weather API, for the moment, the Apixu project is suspended.


Regards

Adriano




Il 23/03/2019 13:51, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Unless you were moving at 78 and a bit mph at the time...:-
Sorry...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] weather plus


Got a update to weather plus this morning that indicated a change in its name. Installed just fine but still show bad info when you check the weather. Said we had 88 mile an hour winds in Quincy this morning. I am sure it is probably really 8.8 miles per hour.












Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

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Just a thought, it could be some interaction between nvda and a mouse driver for some hardware. Its hard to know. If the devs do not use this hardware, they may never see it.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


I think I've ben very lucky. Iv'e not in my now 10 years of using nvda
had this issue yet, to my knowledge.

Take care

On 23 Mar 2019, at 11:52, Gene wrote:

I have seen this problem that occurs no matter how you try to activate
one of the icons.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 1:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


What happens if you hit enter or hit shift f10? Both shoudl do what
you want to do.

Take care

On 23 Mar 2019, at 11:23, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system
tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was
not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility
one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at
least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA
(Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray.
I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon
(OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a
single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA
commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window
for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person
which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is
different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For
some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved
to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and
for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the
command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With
Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not
get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there
and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window
appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves
the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets
moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons
in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be
surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network
Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as
well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to
activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to
handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is
not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the
explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev






Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

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can you not control it from the system tray options like on windows 7? Ie show icon show alerts show icon and alerts.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


The problem I have here is I can access the One Drive icon, but the only option I get here is to sign up. There is no option to turn it off or never shows this message again. I wish there were.!

Roger







On 3/23/2019 5:24 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
I have meant to report this about the one drive problem for ages but just keep forgetting. anyway Now I am just saying the same as has been reported.

On 23/03/2019 18:41, Jackie wrote:
Kostadin, just curious--do you have mouse tracking on in NVDA?
Insert-m toggles it.

On 3/23/19, Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for
example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA
specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after
testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with
OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use
up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must
be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with
the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this
works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA
however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder
why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's
going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets
moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and
for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command
with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and
with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the
system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets
executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the
mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there?
Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray.
And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the
problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is
caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such
"problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them,
including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of
this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of
the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


.


Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

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I hide the network intel thing in the settings of the system tray icons, but yes, agreed it is a little odd, it also may well be why when windows starts focus is either nowhere, start or basically any old place!

The question is, why should the presence or activation of screenreader software affect the mouse anyway, even if no mouse is actually active. It would also explain why some icons need the context menu to bring up their menus, while others the space bar.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 6:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray


Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: weather plus

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,


Of course it still works, is that for the moment I have suspended its development.


Regards


Adriano


Il 24/03/2019 01:32, Kwork ha scritto:

Hmm, interesting. I just checked for my latest weather and forecast, and it came through. Maybe it's no longer suspended?

Travis

On 3/23/2019 8:50 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi tio every one,

I announce you that Weather Plus will soon return with the Yahoo Weather API, for the moment, the Apixu project is suspended.


Regards

Adriano




Il 23/03/2019 13:51, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Unless you were moving at 78 and a bit mph at the time...:-
Sorry...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] weather plus


Got a update to weather plus this morning that indicated a change in its name. Installed just fine but still show bad info when you check the weather. Said we had 88 mile an hour winds in Quincy this morning. I am sure it is probably really 8.8 miles per hour.











Re: weather plus

 

But the Yahoo API has been modified as far as I can remember, so how the project will use it now?

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Em 23/03/2019 12:50, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io disse:

Hi tio every one,

I announce you that Weather Plus will soon return with the Yahoo Weather API, for the moment, the Apixu project is suspended.


Regards

Adriano




Il 23/03/2019 13:51, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Unless you were moving at 78 and a bit mph at the time...:-
Sorry...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] weather plus


Got a update to weather plus this morning that indicated a change in its name. Installed just fine but still show bad info when you check the weather. Said we had 88 mile an hour winds in Quincy this morning. I am sure it is probably really 8.8 miles per hour.












Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Kevin,


I tried it again with the same specs and it works just fine on my system. I wonder if there is a setting in Windows 10 that is different for both of us.  Darned if I could figure out where to start looking for it.

On 3/23/2019 6:28 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
this does not work for me,   using windows10 home 64 bit and latest alpha nvda and yes I have tried this with the stable build.

On 23/03/2019 19:30, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Kostadian,


I am using Windows 10 latest update with NVDA 2018.4 latest stable release and I am able to access my One Drive icon with no problem. There is an add on that simulates the JAWS equivalent with the NVDA + F11 keystroke, but even without the add on, if you do the following, you get the interface displayed.

1.  Press Windows + B to move to the system tray.

2.  Move to the open drive icon.

3.  Route your mouse cursor to the application cursor with NVDA + numpad slash.

4.  initiate a right click with numpad star and a menu opens.


If you have the add on it's much simpler.

Press NVDA + F11, use first letter navigation to move to the open drive icon and tab to the right click item and press enter.




On 3/23/2019 2:23 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


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RES: [nvda] How to tell NVDA which ONeCore voice shoud be used with language switching

Daniel Damacena
 

Interesting question! I deal with it every day since I am learning how to speak English...
I prefer to use the switchsynt addon.
The first profile is aimed for speaking my own language, Brazilian Portuguese and the second one is aimed for speaking American English.
I still have a third one and a forth one because they are set with different rates.
I think you could use this addon for doing what you want.
Good luck!
Best regards!

Daniel Damacena Bezerra

-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em nome de Sylvie Duchateau
Enviada em: terça-feira, 19 de março de 2019 06:52
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] How to tell NVDA which ONeCore voice shoud be used with language switching

Hello all,

I have several voices in several languages installed on Windows as OneCore voices.

By default, I use a French male voice, Paul.

For English, I have several voices: Hazel, Mark, Susan, Zira, David, George.

I have activated language switching and dialect switching in the speech options.

So when I come on a web page, let's say, nvaccess.org, Mark is speaking.

If I want that NVAccess web site should be read with Hazer or Susan, is there a way to tell him to do so without using a specific profile?

Same question, if I am on a page that is written in French and English, I would rather have the language changes read by Hazer instead of Mark and that NVDA then returns to the French speaking Paul.

Thank you for your help.

Best

Sylvie


Re: weather plus

Kwork
 

Hmm, interesting. I just checked for my latest weather and forecast, and it came through. Maybe it's no longer suspended?

Travis

On 3/23/2019 8:50 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi tio every one,

I announce you that Weather Plus will soon return with the Yahoo Weather API, for the moment, the Apixu project is suspended.


Regards

Adriano




Il 23/03/2019 13:51, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Unless you were moving at 78 and a bit mph at the time...:-
Sorry...
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] weather plus


Got a update to weather plus this morning that indicated a change in its name. Installed just fine but still show bad info when you check the weather. Said we had 88 mile an hour winds in Quincy this morning. I am sure it is probably really 8.8 miles per hour.











Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

Roger Stewart
 

The problem I have here is I can access the One Drive icon, but the only option I get here is to sign up. There is no option to turn it off or never shows this message again. I wish there were.!

Roger

On 3/23/2019 5:24 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
I have meant to report this about the one drive problem for ages but just keep forgetting.  anyway Now I am just saying the same as has been reported.

On 23/03/2019 18:41, Jackie wrote:
Kostadin, just curious--do you have mouse tracking on in NVDA?
Insert-m toggles it.

On 3/23/19, Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for
example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA
specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after
testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with
OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use
up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must
be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with
the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this
works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA
however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder
why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's
going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets
moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and
for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command
with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and
with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the
system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets
executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the
mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there?
Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray.
And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the
problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is
caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such
"problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them,
including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of
this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of
the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


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