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Re: nvda crashes

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Yes but nothing like a smoking gun in the one I managed to get, assuming it was the same issue, and I was using Espeak, and its been pretty reliable of late and as I said in my last post, it looked a bit like a lot of nvda was suspended but that is about it. Could be something in the detection of what api to use when I suppose but I'd expect to see a lot of verbosity in the log for it trying different things to read the text.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes


You don't know what is crashing if all you know is that you lose speech. You can't assume that losing speech means NVDA crashes. It may be the speech synthesizer. Others can tell you what to send as far as information, but the log needs to be seen to determine what has chrashed and other information.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 12:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes


Hi, Quentin,



It doesn’t happen all the time but intermittently. I was trying to read a message when all of a sudden I lost speech. I didn’t reboot the computer after installing the latest version of NVDA but maybe that might be a good idea from now on. I haven’t installed any add-ons.



Rosemarie







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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes



Hi Rosemarie,



Could you please give some more information on exactly what is happening?



Firstly, have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA? While I'd like to say you shouldn't need to, in practice, I've found it does occasionally cause random problems.



If you can find a situation which reliably causes issues, could you please record the exact steps so I can try and replicate it.



If you are using any add-ons, make sure they are up to date, and also try running NVDA with add-ons disabled to see if that makes a difference: Press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart NVDA. Then replicate the steps which crashed NVDA and see if they still do.



Finally, if you could send us a copy of your nvda.log, nvda-old.log and crash dump, we can have a look and see what is going on.



See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log files and crash dumps and where to get them.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,



Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie



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Re: nvda crashes

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I seem to remember I reported this a bit back when the first beta came out. Its on Windows 7, and the rule of thumb is like this. All is well for ages, then something not sure what stops it, but its not actually crashed, just extremely slow. After maybe a couple of minutes it will return. I've triggered it most often in legacy software like Outlook Express or programs that use the older default open file or save a file dialogues where the typing slows right down and stops, then will in the fullness of time come back. No sign of anything in the nvda log, occasionally a few core frozen in stack messages but then you can often see the keys you press but nothing much else. It happened big time yesterday on an old copy of Word 2003, being used on Windows 7. Try as I might, after all the various reboots I could not get it to do it again. If its a new bug its going to be a swine to track down. In all cases though more than one application was open at a time and I was switching between them on a windows 7 machine.


I'll keep an eye out, but unless somebody has a burst of inspiration, I'm a little stuck on this one.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes


Hi, Quentin,

It doesn’t happen all the time but intermittently. I was trying to read a message when all of a sudden I lost speech. I didn’t reboot the computer after installing the latest version of NVDA but maybe that might be a good idea from now on. I haven’t installed any add-ons.

Rosemarie



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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes

Hi Rosemarie,

Could you please give some more information on exactly what is happening?

Firstly, have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA? While I'd like to say you shouldn't need to, in practice, I've found it does occasionally cause random problems.

If you can find a situation which reliably causes issues, could you please record the exact steps so I can try and replicate it.

If you are using any add-ons, make sure they are up to date, and also try running NVDA with add-ons disabled to see if that makes a difference: Press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart NVDA. Then replicate the steps which crashed NVDA and see if they still do.

Finally, if you could send us a copy of your nvda.log, nvda-old.log and crash dump, we can have a look and see what is going on.

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log files and crash dumps and where to get them.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, everyone,

Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie

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Re: nvda crashes

Gene
 

You don't know what is crashing if all you know is that you lose speech.  You can't assume that losing speech means NVDA crashes.  It may be the speech synthesizer.  Others can tell you what to send as far as information, but the log needs to be seen to determine what has chrashed and other information.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes

Hi, Quentin,

 

It doesn’t happen all the time but intermittently. I was trying to read a message when all of a sudden I lost speech. I didn’t reboot the computer after installing the latest version of NVDA but maybe that might be a good idea from now on. I haven’t installed any add-ons.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

Could you please give some more information on exactly what is happening?

 

Firstly, have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  While I'd like to say you shouldn't need to, in practice, I've found it does occasionally cause random problems.

 

If you can find a situation which reliably causes issues, could you please record the exact steps so I can try and replicate it.

 

If you are using any add-ons, make sure they are up to date, and also try running NVDA with add-ons disabled to see if that makes a difference:  Press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart NVDA.  Then replicate the steps which crashed NVDA and see if they still do.

 

Finally, if you could send us a copy of your nvda.log, nvda-old.log and crash dump, we can have a look and see what is going on.

 

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log files and crash dumps and where to get them.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

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Re: win7 security

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,

 

I thought as much but I wanted to be sure. It’s been a long time since I used XP.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

XP doesn't have the start menu search feature and you did have to go directly to what you wanted to open and know its name. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

If I remember correctly, in XP it’s called add or remove programs.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

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From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

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Re: nvda crashes

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

It doesn’t happen all the time but intermittently. I was trying to read a message when all of a sudden I lost speech. I didn’t reboot the computer after installing the latest version of NVDA but maybe that might be a good idea from now on. I haven’t installed any add-ons.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda crashes

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

Could you please give some more information on exactly what is happening?

 

Firstly, have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  While I'd like to say you shouldn't need to, in practice, I've found it does occasionally cause random problems.

 

If you can find a situation which reliably causes issues, could you please record the exact steps so I can try and replicate it.

 

If you are using any add-ons, make sure they are up to date, and also try running NVDA with add-ons disabled to see if that makes a difference:  Press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart NVDA.  Then replicate the steps which crashed NVDA and see if they still do.

 

Finally, if you could send us a copy of your nvda.log, nvda-old.log and crash dump, we can have a look and see what is going on.

 

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log files and crash dumps and where to get them.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

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Re: another Zotero question

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

Unfortunatly it doesn't. This meerly duplicates it in the exact same folder.

Best,,

Enes

On 3/20/2019 11:51 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:
Hello,

I have not yet tried this but have noticed in the context menue that a duplication option is listed. Have you found this and tried it yet? 

Place focus on the tree list of citations and select the one you wish to duplicate. Then press shift +F10 to reach the context menu. 

Does that help any?
Sally 


Re: nvda crashes

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Rosemarie,

Could you please give some more information on exactly what is happening?

Firstly, have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  While I'd like to say you shouldn't need to, in practice, I've found it does occasionally cause random problems.

If you can find a situation which reliably causes issues, could you please record the exact steps so I can try and replicate it.

If you are using any add-ons, make sure they are up to date, and also try running NVDA with add-ons disabled to see if that makes a difference:  Press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart NVDA.  Then replicate the steps which crashed NVDA and see if they still do.

Finally, if you could send us a copy of your nvda.log, nvda-old.log and crash dump, we can have a look and see what is going on.

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log files and crash dumps and where to get them.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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Re: NVDA and Excel 2016

 

For your information, Solver  is built into excel, it’s just not enabled by default.


On 21 Mar 2019, at 09:38, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

It looks like Solver is a third party add-in rather than being a part of Office itself: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/define-and-solve-a-problem-by-using-solver-5d1a388f-079d-43ac-a7eb-f63e45925040

It might be worth contacting the developer of that add-in about their accessibility.  

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:00 PM Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I noticed that, while using Excel 2016 (not Excel 365), NVDA fails to read some dialog boxes/windows, for example the Solver result window.
I noticed this while using Solver to solve some linear programming problems at my college. The computers there have Excel 2016, apparently somewhat an older build compared to the one installed on my personal laptop.
Is this a NVDA bug? If so will this be fixed in the 2019.1 release of NVDA?



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Re: NVDA and Excel 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

It looks like Solver is a third party add-in rather than being a part of Office itself: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/define-and-solve-a-problem-by-using-solver-5d1a388f-079d-43ac-a7eb-f63e45925040

It might be worth contacting the developer of that add-in about their accessibility.  

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:00 PM Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I noticed that, while using Excel 2016 (not Excel 365), NVDA fails to read some dialog boxes/windows, for example the Solver result window.
I noticed this while using Solver to solve some linear programming problems at my college. The computers there have Excel 2016, apparently somewhat an older build compared to the one installed on my personal laptop.
Is this a NVDA bug? If so will this be fixed in the 2019.1 release of NVDA?



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Re: win7 security

Arlene
 

Ok, I’ll go give it a try. Yes, Now I remember for xp in the control panel it is add slash remove programs.  That’s it. Thanks Rosemary.

 

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From: Richard Wells
Sent: March 20, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

In Windows XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10, just press WINDOWS-KEY+R, type: appwiz.cpl and press ENTER. Now you are ready to remove unwanted applications/programs.

On 3/20/2019 5:40 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

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were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


Re: question about rc1

Quentin Christensen
 

Just stepping back for a moment, we have four types of builds we release:

Alpha builds are our regular snapshot builds.  As we update code day to day and add new features or fix things, that goes into alpha builds.  Because only a couple of people may have tested something before it goes into an alpha build, we don't guarantee that it is stable, and we definitely encourage anyone to keep a stable copy of NVDA handy rather than using an alpha build as your ONLY copy, just in case.

When we are coming up towards the time for a new stable release, we put everything we want to keep together, and call it a beta release (we sometimes test something in an alpha release that we know isn't ready for a stable version but we might use as a "proof of concept".  Things like that which aren't ready for release would not be included in beta versions).

When we think the beta is looking pretty stable and we're not getting any negative feedback about it, we move to a release candidate.  A Release Candidate (RC) build is a build we believe is stable and should work for pretty much all users.  Once we release that, if we don't get any feedback about major issues with it, in a week or so, we will basically rename it as the final stable version and release it as NVDA 2019.1.

Depending on the number of people who test various builds and the amount of feedback - positive and negative - we may have only one build of a given type, or we may have several.

So, the closer we get to a release, the fewer changes will be from one release to the next.  Once we've got a version fairly stable, we only want to add specific fixes to showstopping bugs, so as not to risk breaking something else.  Once we have announced the translation freeze, we also don't want to make any changes to "strings" or announcement text that NVDA reads, as this can then break the files that all our wonderful translators are working on before the next release.

So the process is actually a lot longer and more complex than many people realise, but does result in a more stable product at the end.

Kind regards
Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:22 AM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Not quite sure what that last bit means.

At any rate its working the same here as the beta was. I also downloaded the
latest alpha as a portable at the same time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about rc1


Hi,

They are not really the same thing. RC1 includes localization updates
provided by a group of volunteer translators, along with internal fix so
code contributors can have an easier time testing their work before asking
for a code review from others.

Cheers,

Joseph









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Re: Visual Studio vs Visual Studio Code

Jeffrey McFarland
 

I'm a web programmer. I'm having trouble with NVDA and VS code. NVDA does not read my file (JavaScript). I'm probably doing something wrong as I have very little experience with screen readers. 


nvda crashes

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

Lately I’ve had a problem with NVDA crashing. I’m using NVDA RC 1 2019.1. I’m not sure why this is happening. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NV Access at CSUN

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Apologies for the delay replying!  We are back and the presentation was very well received.  Unfortunately the CSUN organisers have always been very strict about not allowing presentations to be recorded.

I did cover many of the points, and include some of the key links in the In-Process post from last week, which was why it was longer than usual: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-15th-march-2019/

We had a very busy week and met with lots of people and organisations.  A lot of users also wanted to come up to us simply to thank us for NVDA, which is very heartening.

I'm slowly catching up on messages to the group and emails, but if there's been something to the group that you specifically want me (or anyone from NV Access) to read, do please feel free to forward it directly to me.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:46 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi I hope so as well!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: March 14, 2019 6:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access at CSUN

 

I hope there will be.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access at CSUN

 

hi,

Will there be audio archives of this presentation?

On 3/10/2019 1:36 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

We're away at the CSUN conference in Anaheim, California for the next week.  If anyone is going, we're presenting and would love to see you:

 

           Title: NVDA: Updates, new features and the 2019 Outlook

           Date:  Wednesday, March 13, 2019

           Time: 9:00 AM

           Location: Grand Ballroom G&H

 

Otherwise, I'll be back in a week and a bit to catch up on the group.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


NVDA and Office 2019

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi,  Just got Office 2019 and it works beautifully with NVDA 2019 beta 1.  Not only are all the components accessible, but there is no lag or delay of any kind.  NVDA's responsiveness is in fact, better than it is with Office 2016.  excellent work on the part of the developers.  Cheers!


Re: win7 security

Gene
 

XP doesn't have the start menu search feature and you did have to go directly to what you wanted to open and know its name. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

Hi, Arleen,

 

If I remember correctly, in XP it’s called add or remove programs.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


Re: win7 security

Gene
 

You don't have to go to programs and features in Windows 7 by actually directly going there, that is, knowing where it is, what its name is, and going to and opening the item that has that name by, for example, finding it in Control panel.  That is one of the main and most important points of the start menu search feature.  Type something like uninstall a program, down arrow through the results and you'll see what you are looking for.  And you won't have to know the technical name. You will find a result, perhaps more than one that says something like uninstall a program.  If you press enter on it, then yes, programs and features will open, but you don't have to know the name to find and open it.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Video converting software that works with windows 10 and NVDA

 


I should also add that it was why I switched to payed for software which I mostly don't even use.

I found some more free software to do what I need as well as what I have.

The issue with stuff like dvdstudio and freemake is they will happily load extras and sometimes those boxes are not accessible.

From experience even if you uninstall said software later the system still has issues.

Even if you then restore the system and run a malware scan there may be issues.

If you do load unwanted stuff you will have to reformat to make it go away.

After falling once to many for this and that and having to reformat to get rid of it I made the decission to get out of using the software and spent cash on something that actually isn't full of junkware.

Sadly accessibility while good has its moments and now I do what I need but still.


On 21/03/2019 10:52 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Use reaper to edit the videos. I use it for editing much more but I also edit my videos that way.

Take care

On 20 Mar 2019, at 13:32, Dan Beaver wrote:

Oh, by the way, FreemakeVC tries to install additional software when it is installed. Make sure you uncheck these items.


Dan Beaver

On 3/20/2019 4:29 PM, Dan Beaver via Groups.Io wrote:

I use FreemakeVC.  It will convert a boat load of video formats.  It will also rip and burn videos.


There is a free version which runs a little slower and a paid version which runs faster and which allows a few more features.  I have used both and only purchased the paid version for the increased speed. It wasn't bad on the free version but I was ripping our video library and decided the increased speed was worth it. We have over 600 movies we have collected over the years.


Hope this helps.


Dan Beaver

On 3/20/2019 3:06 PM, Armando Maldonado wrote:
Hello, as I'm about to take a trip soon, I was wondering of the following. Has anyone here tried any video editing software that would work well with NVDA and Windows 10? Any suggestions would very much be appreciated.
Best,
Armando
-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)
-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: win7 security

Richard Wells
 

In Windows XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10, just press WINDOWS-KEY+R, type: appwiz.cpl and press ENTER. Now you are ready to remove unwanted applications/programs.

On 3/20/2019 5:40 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: win7 security

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

 

If I remember correctly, in XP it’s called add or remove programs.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

Hi there, if you are using xp. If you have to uninstall a program. You always have to go to the control panel.  I can’t remember where in the control panel you had to go. But for windows 7 its there too. But you had to go to programs and features.  Windows ten it’s different. Almost the same as 7.  I’ll look and see where you uninstall programs.  I know on ten you have to go to the control panel.  In xp and 7 you could uninstall programs in the start menue.  I always did it in the control panel. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 19, 2019 9:46 PM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] win7 security

 

hi gene.

you said

One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to

look for things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and

you'll fined most things, even if you don't know what they are called.

The start menu search is designed to find things when the technical or

exact words aren't used.  for example, use the start menu search to

search for uninstall programs or uninstall a program.  You will find

relevant results even though you didn't use the technical name.  I

don't remember it any more.  But you will find entries in plain

English such as remove a program.

 

 

really?

an option for windows 7 is programs and feature if i am right.

then, if i dont remember the name and like xp, search add-remove

programs does it work and does it find my desired item?

the only place which i recognize that it can find my desired item,

even if i dont know the exact sentences, words or even spelling, is

google search.

i describe story sometimes for google and google finds immediate my

desired option or item for me!

thanks for your great information, God bless you!

On 3/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> It was likely a false alarm.  Have you rebooted since?  If you reboot and

> you get no such message, it is very unlikely anything to worry about.  if

> you reboot and do get such a message, what screen-reader are you using?  I

> suspect the message also said something like click here to address the

> problem.

> However, if you want to check your security settings before doing any of

> this, do the following:

> Open the start menu.  Type the word security.

> Then after a moment, read the current line.  If it isn't what you want, look

> through many of the options.  Down arrow through them.  If you find what you

> want, press enter.

> You will find what you want, as one of the items says chec security status.

> I just checked.

> One of the main improvements in Windows 7 is that you don't have to look for

> things as you did in XP.  Use the start menu search and you'll fined most

> things, even if you don't know what they are called.  The start menu search

> is designed to find things when the technical or exact words aren't used.

> for example, use the start menu search to search for uninstall programs or

> uninstall a program.  You will find relevant results even though you didn't

> use the technical name.  I don't remember it any more.  But you will find

> entries in plain English such as remove a program.

> This is important to know not only for Windows 7 but, though I haven't

> checked because I haven't used higher versions of Windows, I'm sure they all

> have this feature.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Monte Single

> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:20 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] win7 security

> HI folks,

> Yesterday I  got a popup on my win 7 machine saying windows security was

> turned off.  Don't think I've heard that in all the years I have had this

> pc.

> Where do I look to find status of win security.

> Thanks,

> Monte

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali