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Re: NVDA and power points

Mike Sedmak
 

I used to be able to make text only formattted powerpoints very easily
using the outline view.

However since Powerpoint 2013 I can't get the outline view to work.

My main gripe with the standard view is that there isn't feedback on
indent level when making a bullted list.

You can add graphics, NVDA will tell you the X/Y coordinates and if
the image overlaps another object: this is very cool.

Tables are usable, but the row/column navigation I am used to from the
web or word doesn't appear to work in powerpoint. I have to count how
many "tabs" I have used to keep track of which column I am editing.

So, I would say it is usable; much better than 3 years ago.

YMMV,
Mike

On 1/25/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@samobile.net> wrote:
Hi,
First I want to thank all those that answered my questions about
firefox. You all helped me out a lot.
I have a quick question about Microsoft Power point. How easy is it to
make one using a screen reader. I used to read them in college, but
I've never made one before.
Any help would be appreciated.
Chris




Re: table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Ok, thanks.


Gene 於 25/1/2019 22:08 寫道:

I answered your question before I read the second part of your message.  Yes, if you down arrow and see more to the table, the NVDA table movement commands aren't working correctly in the table.  As I said, if you use a different browser, that appears to solve the problem if you use one that allows for proper movement.
 
But to answer your questions about whether this is a browser problem or a screen-reader problem, I think, I'm not sure, that someone would have to look at the code who is technically knowledgeable about NVDA.  I suspect it’s a browser problem since the behavior appears to vary with the browser being used.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Well, I do hear that NVDA speak table with one row and one column.
problem 1
But, in the webpage, if I press t, it say table with one row and one
column, then I press t again , it speak one row and one column again; if
I press t again, NVDA said no more table. Actually, if they are each
cell regarded as one table, then pressing t again and again should
access more of the table.
problem 2
if NVDA really treat the table as one row and one column, then if I
press t the first time, then if I press down or left arrow, NVDA should
speak end of table and speak end of table and speak message about the
new table;
however If i press t the first time and press down arrow, NVDA said
column 2; press down arrow again said column 3, etc. which is incorrect
of what NVDA speak at the initial state where there is only one row and
one column.





Re: Add-on Updater 19.02 (mandatory update), Windows 10 App Essentials and SPL Studio add-ons retires standalone update facility as of today

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Hi, I was just playing with this. I note on some nvda versions it seems not to update. I assume this was on purpose, but unfortunately, if you download the update from the web site and then run the updater it does update. I can see no down sides to this, ie no error noises etc, so wondered what was going on exactly. As you may know I have the current release as my working installed copy, which updated from the prompt
Several older versions including the last version an rc and the test version for the fast browse mode.
The latter three did not update though they flagged the update. but did update when presented with the file in a folder.
Oh and the special fast browse version still gives the error ding and is not seen, so I'd imagine it being in there is a bit academic!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: "'NVDA screen reader development'" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 6:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater 19.02 (mandatory update), Windows 10 App Essentials and SPL Studio add-ons retires standalone update facility as of today


Dear NVDA community,



In about an hour from now, two significant events will take place (well,
really three):



* Add-on Updater 19.02: this is a mandatory update for all Add-on
Updater users, as it prepares this ad-on to deal with a pull request that's
being reviewed (regarding new add-on API approach). I'm calling it
"mandatory" because for most add-ons, you need to use Add-on Updater to
update add-ons on the fly.
* Standalone update facility is going away from two add-ons: as of
today, version 19.02 of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials
will retire standalone update facility. You should know by now what this
means.



Other things to note:



* Windows 10 App Essentials 19.02 will now require Windows 10 Version
1803 (April 2018 Update) or later. If you need to use Windows 10 App
Essentials in Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update), you should download
19.01.2 from
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/19.01/wintenApps-19
.01.2.nvda-addon.
* Current development snapshots of StationPlaylist Studio add-on
supports ability to reload or reset add-on settings by pressing
Control+NVDA+R once or three times, respectively. This work will show up in
March for people using stable and long-term channels.
* Thanks to recent NVDA alpha snapshots, Action Center and time picker
workarounds that shipped with Windows 10 App Essentials for a number of
years is now part of NVDA itself. Notably, item status for various quick
actions in Action Center (including brightness value) will be announced, as
well as better support for time pickers such as alarm configuration in
Alarms and Clock app.



Cheers,

Joseph




NVDA and power points

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
First I want to thank all those that answered my questions about firefox. You all helped me out a lot.
I have a quick question about Microsoft Power point. How easy is it to make one using a screen reader. I used to read them in college, but I've never made one before.
Any help would be appreciated.
Chris


Re: Nvda vlc add-on

Sarah k Alawami
 

Please be more clear in your message. "it doesn't work" doesn't help us know what is not working. If you can submit 3-5 page as to what's not working, steps to reproduce the problems and regression if necessary. Ok not 3-5 pages but normally for me tat's what it turns into.

On 25 Jan 2019, at 11:02, farhan israk wrote:

Nvda vlc add-on isn't working. Please, request developer to update it.


Arduino ide and clips

farhan israk
 

How to compile and run code in arduino ide and clips?


Nvda vlc add-on

farhan israk
 

Nvda vlc add-on isn't working. Please, request developer to update it.


Add-on Updater 19.02 (mandatory update), Windows 10 App Essentials and SPL Studio add-ons retires standalone update facility as of today

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

In about an hour from now, two significant events will take place (well, really three):

 

  • Add-on Updater 19.02: this is a mandatory update for all Add-on Updater users, as it prepares this ad-on to deal with a pull request that’s being reviewed (regarding new add-on API approach). I’m calling it “mandatory” because for most add-ons, you need to use Add-on Updater to update add-ons on the fly.
  • Standalone update facility is going away from two add-ons: as of today, version 19.02 of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials will retire standalone update facility. You should know by now what this means.

 

Other things to note:

 

  • Windows 10 App Essentials 19.02 will now require Windows 10 Version 1803 (April 2018 Update) or later. If you need to use Windows 10 App Essentials in Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update), you should download 19.01.2 from https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/19.01/wintenApps-19.01.2.nvda-addon.
  • Current development snapshots of StationPlaylist Studio add-on supports ability to reload or reset add-on settings by pressing Control+NVDA+R once or three times, respectively. This work will show up in March for people using stable and long-term channels.
  • Thanks to recent NVDA alpha snapshots, Action Center and time picker workarounds that shipped with Windows 10 App Essentials for a number of years is now part of NVDA itself. Notably, item status for various quick actions in Action Center (including brightness value) will be announced, as well as better support for time pickers such as alarm configuration in Alarms and Clock app.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and norton and adobe digital editions

 

Em 25/01/2019 07:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
Another way to fix things I found was install a registry monitor program. If any program tries to make itself run at start up it is stopped and you can go in and see what it is.
Brian, could you please tell me what's the name of this program?

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Re: Sticky notes is accessible

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I can access the app and create a Sticky Note but I don’t understand the bit about the list.  If I create a note and leave it open, it says “Open on Desktop” alongside the sticky note entry in the list but I can’t find anything on the Desktop relating to it after I quit the app.  What am I doing wrong?

 

Cheers

Chris.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: 25 January 2019 13:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sticky notes is accessible

 

I assumed this app would never be accessible. I'm glad I was wrong. If anybody wants their accessible tutorials main page, the link is below. It's organized by program, and app. I may give these other things a try, except yammer. I have absolutely no interest in it, at all.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-and-keyboard-shortcuts-with-office-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US


Re: table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Gene
 

I answered your question before I read the second part of your message.  Yes, if you down arrow and see more to the table, the NVDA table movement commands aren't working correctly in the table.  As I said, if you use a different browser, that appears to solve the problem if you use one that allows for proper movement.
 
But to answer your questions about whether this is a browser problem or a screen-reader problem, I think, I'm not sure, that someone would have to look at the code who is technically knowledgeable about NVDA.  I suspect it’s a browser problem since the behavior appears to vary with the browser being used.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Well, I do hear that NVDA speak table with one row and one column.
problem 1
But, in the webpage, if I press t, it say table with one row and one
column, then I press t again , it speak one row and one column again; if
I press t again, NVDA said no more table. Actually, if they are each
cell regarded as one table, then pressing t again and again should
access more of the table.
problem 2
if NVDA really treat the table as one row and one column, then if I
press t the first time, then if I press down or left arrow, NVDA should
speak end of table and speak end of table and speak message about the
new table;
however If i press t the first time and press down arrow, NVDA said
column 2; press down arrow again said column 3, etc. which is incorrect
of what NVDA speak at the initial state where there is only one row and
one column.




Re: table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Gene
 

Each thing you are moving to is a different table.  T is to move to the beginning of each table, just as h moves to each heading and b moves to each button.
 
 
The movement commands allow you to read a table as it was intended to be read.  But if you down arrow in a table, you will hear each line of the table, all the items from left to right, read as a full line.  If you down arrow, do you hear the table read incorrectly? 
 
Is the code on the page causing NVDA to give incorrect results for the dimensions of the table?  Since I don't understand the site, I can't guess anything from what the site says.  When you look at the table by seeing a description of what it is about on the web page, is information missing?  Or does the title of the table or the one item you can read tell you if you are missing information? 
 
Also, what browser is the person using who sees something like three columns and four rows?  I used Chrome, and I suspect you used a different browser.  Because you are getting different results, that raises the question if this is a browser problem or an NVDA problem?  If you, the person who asked the question, use a different browser, do you see more information when you move through the table with the usual table movement commands?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Well, I do hear that NVDA speak table with one row and one column.
problem 1
But, in the webpage, if I press t, it say table with one row and one
column, then I press t again , it speak one row and one column again; if
I press t again, NVDA said no more table. Actually, if they are each
cell regarded as one table, then pressing t again and again should
access more of the table.
problem 2
if NVDA really treat the table as one row and one column, then if I
press t the first time, then if I press down or left arrow, NVDA should
speak end of table and speak end of table and speak message about the
new table;
however If i press t the first time and press down arrow, NVDA said
column 2; press down arrow again said column 3, etc. which is incorrect
of what NVDA speak at the initial state where there is only one row and
one column.




Re: Sticky notes is accessible

 

I assumed this app would never be accessible. I'm glad I was wrong. If anybody wants their accessible tutorials main page, the link is below. It's organized by program, and app. I may give these other things a try, except yammer. I have absolutely no interest in it, at all.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-and-keyboard-shortcuts-with-office-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US


Re: table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Well, I do hear that NVDA speak table with one row and one column.
problem 1
But, in the webpage, if I press t, it say table with one row and one column, then I press t again , it speak one row and one column again; if I press t again, NVDA said no more table. Actually, if they are each cell regarded as one table, then pressing t again and again should access more of the table.
problem 2
if NVDA really treat the table as one row and one column, then if I press t the first time, then if I press down or left arrow, NVDA should speak end of table and speak end of table and speak message about the new table;
however If i press t the first time and press down arrow, NVDA said column 2; press down arrow again said column 3, etc. which is incorrect of what NVDA speak at the initial state where there is only one row and one column.


Re: table navigation with NVDA in this webpage

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Sylvie
Well, it is a Chinese web site, so probably your tts engine may not recognize.


Sylvie Duchateau 於 25/1/2019 15:04 寫道:
Hello,

I just visited the page.

NVDA reads the table correctly, saying it has 3 rows and 4 columns.

Navigating with the table navigation commands works properly.

But it seems that the cells are partially empty or may be there is a language that my NVDA version does not recognise?

As Gene wrote, if the table has only one row and one column, it is normal that you cannot move with the navigation commands.

May be the table is updated frequently. This would explain why I see several rows and columns.

Best

Sylvie

Le 25/01/2019 à 02:24, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William a écrit :

Hi,
https://www.smartid.gov.hk/Who-shall-replace-identity-cards/
1. press t to move to the table start
2. press ctrl alt up/down/left cannot move to the next cell of the table

isn't it a problem of nvda or the html code of the site?




Re: nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

While on the subject of email on windows 10. How is OE Classic coming along? Is it usable yet?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail


sometimes you might need to press NVDA+r then shift tab to the subject field then tab back. this is what i do when I go to reply and it acts like I'm on a web page.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: nvda@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 6:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail


Hi,

With the latest version of NVDA, I noticed when using it with windows mail and when you are composing, or replying to an email, NVDA does not track the cursor very well at all when trying to edit with arrow keys. Can this be fixed?





Josh



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Re: nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've had no such issues with Outlook Express but he might also mean the windows 10 heap of an Email client, which is total rubbish on most 10 machines I've tried to use. Maybe I've been spoilt...
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail


Are you asking about the Windows Mail that came with Vista? If so, while I have no objection to fixing it, would it only correct a problem in that program and do enough people use it to justify spending NVDA resources on repairing the problem?

In Windows Live Mail, I don't know about recent versions of NVDA, but when composing messages, the cursor didn't move at all properly when reviewing a message using read to end. If that is the same problem, it might be more worth looking at since a fair number of people still use that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and cursor tracking in windows 10 mail


Hi,

With the latest version of NVDA, I noticed when using it with windows mail and when you are composing, or replying to an email, NVDA does not track the cursor very well at all when trying to edit with arrow keys. Can this be fixed?





Josh



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Re: NVDA and norton and adobe digital editions

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It depends. Often these days software only downloads a stub, so installing will not work unless you give it internet access. Chrome does this as do many pieces of software. It seems that the stub looks at your machine and can then intelligently get the files appropriate to your software and hardware environment.
In these cases there is no way once install starts to get it to stop without cancelling the whole install.

I notice for example if I download a stub of a piece of software say on one machine then run that on another, and that happens to be an xp machine it will almost immediately either say it won't run or download a specific version for the XP environment.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and norton and adobe digital editions


hi. how about disconnecting the internet?
does it work?

On 1/24/19, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Just to let you know, when installing adobe digital editions, to make sure
Norton does not get installed, OCR the Norton screen and put your cursor on
no thanks, route the mouse, and left click, and then you get adobe digital
editions and no Norton!

Josh


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Re: NVDA and norton and adobe digital editions

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Does Unchecky work in this situation. I notice that some Ccleaners have now somehow stopped this software from working which is very serious as its usually got a payload of Avast in it.


Another way to fix things I found was install a registry monitor program. If any program tries to make itself run at start up it is stopped and you can go in and see what it is.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:50 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and norton and adobe digital editions


Hi,
Just to let you know, when installing adobe digital editions, to make sure Norton does not get installed, OCR the Norton screen and put your cursor on no thanks, route the mouse, and left click, and then you get adobe digital editions and no Norton!

Josh


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Re: Rewind and fast forward tracks in itunes

Chris
 

I don’t think you can fast forward or rewind in iTunes

Only skip back and next tracks

 

If there is a way to scan through a track in iTunes then I would like to know it too

 

 

From: Manoj Govindraj
Sent: 24 January 2019 23:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Rewind and fast forward tracks in itunes

 

Hello,

 

I am using the latest version of nvda on my windows 10 64 bit laptop.

When using itunes, I am not able to rewind and fast forward tracks

using the keystrokes Control plus alt plus left/right arrow keys.

Could anyone help me resolve this issue?

 

Best,

 

Manoj

 

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