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Re: Streaming software

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Thank you sarah,


I tried object navigation but it didn't work at first.  After I saw your email, I tried again.  when I tabbed out of the scenes window, I was then able to navigate to the rest of the items on the main screen.


I used the autoconfiguration feature to adjust the stream parameters to my bandwidth.  The audio sounds great and I am told the video is excellent as well.


Thanks again,

George


On 1/22/2019 3:55 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Use object nav and add yoru sources there. I use obs on a daily basis for my xbox. I did a marathon stream with obs 2 weeks ago. It's grate.

Take care

On 22 Jan 2019, at 12:36, George McCoy wrote:

Appologies if this appears twice.


I am looking with live streaming software that works reasonably well with NVDA.  I want to use it to send a stream to facebook live.  I tried OBS Studio.  It's mostly accessable, but I can't get to the sources dialog to enable a camera for video and my Behringer mixer for audio.


Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.


Tia,

George



Re: Open Office/libreOffice

Gene
 

As far as I know, you can purchase Office 365 under another name.  So you aren't being deprived of something you can buy. 
 
people rent homes and apartments, people rent cars, people subscribe to services like Spotify.  Try not making payments to any of those you rent from or whom you have pay monthly for continued service agreements.  You may not like this new model, but there is nothing underhanded or dishonest about it.  But it does mean that some companies make more money over time than if you purchased whatever it is.  But calling such conditions criminal is absurd.  and in the case of Office 365, you can save your files outside of the program.  So you don't have to lose anything. 
 
Gene.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open Office/libreOffice

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll *never* use office 365.  I'd rather put up with some access issues than pay for a product that must be paid for each and every year, or you loose the ability to use the program, that's just silly, and companies really be shot for introducing such nonsense.  I know you can still access your documents you already created if you don't pay, but creating new content is off the table at that point, and to me, that's just criminal.  Charge me for updates, that's fine, because then I can choose not to upgrade, but charge for basic use of the program, and hold capabilities back if I don't pay? How's that any different than some of those hackers who hold your files for ransom?

No thanks, no office 365 for me *ever*.

On 1/23/2019 2:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have not touched Office 365, but certain things are very, very, very unlikely to change, ever.

ALT+F, S still does a save as it always has for an existing file that's been saved.

Alt+F,A still does a Save As, though if you want to go straight to the browse dialog add an O after that A, as that forces it to go directly to the browse dialog (and the same is true for the straight save the first time you're saving a file).

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Re: Open Office/libreOffice

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll *never* use office 365.  I'd rather put up with some access issues than pay for a product that must be paid for each and every year, or you loose the ability to use the program, that's just silly, and companies really be shot for introducing such nonsense.  I know you can still access your documents you already created if you don't pay, but creating new content is off the table at that point, and to me, that's just criminal.  Charge me for updates, that's fine, because then I can choose not to upgrade, but charge for basic use of the program, and hold capabilities back if I don't pay? How's that any different than some of those hackers who hold your files for ransom?

No thanks, no office 365 for me *ever*.

On 1/23/2019 2:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have not touched Office 365, but certain things are very, very, very unlikely to change, ever.

ALT+F, S still does a save as it always has for an existing file that's been saved.

Alt+F,A still does a Save As, though if you want to go straight to the browse dialog add an O after that A, as that forces it to go directly to the browse dialog (and the same is true for the straight save the first time you're saving a file).

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Re: Emoji in Office 365

Quentin Christensen
 

I can also reproduce this in Office 365.  Interesting that it's happening in Office 2013 as well, which version of Windows are you using Ralph?

We do have an open issue on this: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9120 that was opened a couple of weeks ago.

Quentin.


On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:24 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
This is also in Outlook 2013, just type a smiley like ": )", ": - )" or "; - )" (without the spaces)
They all will be reported as 12.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2019 10:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emoji in Office 365

Hello Quentin

Thank you for responding and for showing an interest to try and assist.

My friend provided the following steps to duplicate the problem:

Begin quote:

     Steps to reproduce


  1. Use Office 365 with latest updates and latest official NVDA release. The
     issue was present with previous Office 365 updates and NVDA versions too though.
  2. Open a blank MS Word document or new message in Outlook.
  3. Use the normal method to insert an emoji using the keyboard.


     Outcome when using NVDA


  1. Instead of producing the chosen emoji, NVDA inserts the digits "12".
  2. There is no way to ascertain if the correct emoji was inserted.
  3. When saving the document or draft, it is saved with the name 12, explained
     above.


     Outcome when using JAWS 2019


   * The emoji is correctly reported with no unexpected behaviour.


The bug has previously been reported to Joseph Lee, who blamed the
shortcoming
on Microsoft Office. This clearly is not the case, as outlined above.

End quote

Kind regards

Christo


On 2019/01/22 01:01 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi Christo,
>
> Can you please advise the steps to reproduce this?
>
> Which Office program?  Which emoji character?  If it's a document you have
> been sent, if you are able to forward it to info@..., I can have a
> look at the same file, otherwise, if it's one (or several) emojis, please
> advise how to select the appropriate one(s).
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 8:24 PM Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello NVDA developers
>>
>>
>> A friend who is not on this list asked me to report that when using NVDA
>> with Office 365 emoji are not shown; instead the number 12 appears in
>> the text. This only happens in Office 365 and not in older versions of
>> Office. He says that the opposition Shark handles emoji perfectly in
>> 365. Is this a know issue?
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>










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spellcheck with NVDA

Ann Byrne
 

How well does NVDA work with spellcheck? In Office 2013? in 2016????


Re: Open Office/libreOffice

Brad Snyder
 

What hoops??
To save a file, all you need to do is press CTRL+S to Save, or ALT followed by F then A to do a Save As.
This is no different than in any previous version of MS Word for Windows.

HTH

- Brad -




On Jan 23, 2019, at 11:22, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

i am running 2007. I peeked at office 365 but I did not like what hoops i had to jump through just to save a file. 
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the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open Office/libreOffice

And the question, "Upgrading from what?/What existing version of Office are you using?," comes to mind.

I just recently upgraded from 2010, which is getting rickety but is still supported, to Office 2016.   Office 2016 will still be supported for some years to come, and with the availability of recycled licenses out of the EU one can upgrade to the top version, Pro Plus, for very little money.

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Re: Open Office/libreOffice

 

I have not touched Office 365, but certain things are very, very, very unlikely to change, ever.

ALT+F, S still does a save as it always has for an existing file that's been saved.

Alt+F,A still does a Save As, though if you want to go straight to the browse dialog add an O after that A, as that forces it to go directly to the browse dialog (and the same is true for the straight save the first time you're saving a file).

--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: accessing a spreadsheet in "protected view"

 

Mary,

  Have a read through:    I have hated Protected View as default since its introduction.   I never open an MS-Office document from any source that I don't trust, so it's just a PITA for me.  The sighted folks can see what's there, so they don't need to have something read it, and it's visible when Protected View is on.  If they want to manipulate it in any way, though, they've got to turn it off, too, either for that document alone or as noted above.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


accessing a spreadsheet in "protected view"

Mary Otten
 

Hi all,


I admit that I am really not very knowledgeable when it comes to working with spreadsheets. So maybe this is just an elementary question.


I got a spreadsheet from the farmer who does my local CSA. It contains products, prices per specified unit of product and the 12 months of the year, including showing, with an X in the boxes for months when said products are not going to be available. And then there is a place to fill in the amounts you want for each month and each product, and it calculates your total for the year.


But when I open this in Excel from Office 2016, it says it is in protected view, and when I arrow around, all I get are numbers for the given cell I'm on, plus the word unlock. And I'm not seeing any actual data from the sender of the sheet, i.e. no names of items, months etc. So I haven't a clue how this thing is actually laid out. This protected view is the way she sends this out, and apparently, it works okay for the sighted folks. So, any advice on how I can do some magic on this would really be appreciated.


Mary


Re: Open Office/libreOffice

David Moore
 

Hi, nvda is very accessible with Microsoft office 365. if you want to use PowerPoint even, it is very accessible within vda. It is very snappy, and EnV access has been working hard to make Microsoft Excel accessible within vda as well. I strongly encourage you to look into getting office 365, because it is the most up-to-date in terms of accessibility. Have a great day, David Moore.


On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 6:20 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@... wrote:
How are these programs in the realm of accessibility with NVDA? I'm trying to decide if I should switch or uprade to Ofice 365.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****


Re: Open Office/libreOffice

Gene
 

You probably could have saved the file as you do now if you turned back stage view off.  I don't use Word and I'll let those who do discuss that but from discussions I've seen on lists, turning it off removes such annoyances.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open Office/libreOffice

i am running 2007. I peeked at office 365 but I did not like what hoops i had to jump through just to save a file.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open Office/libreOffice

And the question, "Upgrading from what?/What existing version of Office are you using?," comes to mind.

I just recently upgraded from 2010, which is getting rickety but is still supported, to Office 2016.   Office 2016 will still be supported for some years to come, and with the availability of recycled licenses out of the EU one can upgrade to the top version, Pro Plus, for very little money.

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: I lose the python online book link

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I chose the second book. I'm going to see how far I get.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----
From: "特種兵" <afreettears@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I lose the python online book link



hi John

Yes, I lost python book is think python
thank you for your advice

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

John Isige 於 2019/1/23 上午 03:07 寫道:
I'm not sure what Python book somebody posted, but here are a few
things. Here's Learn Python The Hard Way.


https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/


Here's A Byte of Python.


https://python.swaroopch.com/


Here's Think Python.


http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html


Here's one on programming games.


http://inventwithpython.com/


Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph
wrote up.


https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning


Hopefully the book you lost is in there somewhere.


On 1/22/2019 10:03, 特種兵 wrote:


hi everyone

how many days ago
someone put a link of a python online book on this lists
but I delete thta letter because I put it into firefox bookmark
I reinstall windows 10 on my desktop machine some days ago
then I forgot backup my firefox bookmark
so anyone has the link?
I need it, thanks



Re: Open Office/libreOffice

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


i am running 2007. I peeked at office 365 but I did not like what hoops i had to jump through just to save a file.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open Office/libreOffice

And the question, "Upgrading from what?/What existing version of Office are you using?," comes to mind.

I just recently upgraded from 2010, which is getting rickety but is still supported, to Office 2016.   Office 2016 will still be supported for some years to come, and with the availability of recycled licenses out of the EU one can upgrade to the top version, Pro Plus, for very little money.

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


excel is stop when edited comment finish

特種兵
 

hi groups

  I use microsoft office 2016 and NVDA 2018.4.1
  excel is always stop when I edited comment finish everytime.
  I inserted comment then pressed esc to return excel sheet
  but I use arrow key can not move cursor and NVDA has no response anything until I pressed control plus s saved this file and alt plus F4 quit it
  then pressed enter key open this file and I see all things
  so anyone give me some advice if you know whats happen
  am I use edit finished method is error?
  thanks



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thank you for much
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Re: I lose the python online book link

特種兵
 

hi John

  Yes, I lost python book is think python
  thank you for your advice

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

John Isige 於 2019/1/23 上午 03:07 寫道:

I'm not sure what Python book somebody posted, but here are a few
things. Here's Learn Python The Hard Way.


https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/


Here's A Byte of Python.


https://python.swaroopch.com/


Here's Think Python.


http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html


Here's one on programming games.


http://inventwithpython.com/


Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph
wrote up.


https://nvda.groups.io/g/devlearning


Hopefully the book you lost is in there somewhere.


On 1/22/2019 10:03, 特種兵 wrote:


hi everyone

  how many days ago
  someone put a link of a python online book on this lists
  but I delete thta letter because I put it into firefox bookmark
  I reinstall windows 10 on my desktop machine some days ago
  then I forgot backup my firefox bookmark
  so anyone has the link?
  I need it, thanks


Re: NVDA command to read columns in a MS Word document

Jonathan COHN
 

Assuming there is content in the column, the alt  up/down arrow keys will move you  through these columns. Also useful to know that in the layout tab of Word 365 is a "break" menu where you can insert a column break. I thought there was a keyboard shortcut for this also, but could not find it. Certainly would be nice if Microsoft added column navigation to the goto page dialog. (control-G)). 


Re: NVDA and ads blocker

Gene
 

Do you want the instructions for Chrome as well? 
 
its not a question of novices.  Most people wouldn't know or wouldn't have thought of applying these various tasks in one related manner.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

Thank you Gene for taking the time to write down the instructions for us novices.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

 

This explanation is long.  It explains how to do this and gives an example of an efficient way to use this setting and how it may benefit you.

 

In firefox, it is a few steps to get to the place where you change the setting.  But once there, if you leave a window or tab opened, you can change it between on and off by just pressing enter in that window or tab.

Here is how you get to the setting:

In the browser address bar, type about:config.  Look at what I wrote character by character to see exactly how to type it.

Press enter.

A warning will come up.  Press the space bar.

you are now in a search field.

The first time you do this, once you are in the search field, you may want to bookmark the page for the fastest use in the future.  If you follow the bookmark, you will be on the warning message so press the space bar.

 

In the search field, type the following exactly as written:

pt.en

Tab once.  I think there is only one item in the results.  But if not, there will be very few.  The item you want says JAVA script default enabled or something very similar.  Select it if you are on it with the space bar or down arrow and up arrow.  Press enter.  it will then say
JAVA script user set bullian false or something similar. 

It is now off. 

Leave that Window opened.

Open a new window for your browsing with control n.  Or open a new tab with control t.  if you know how to move from tab to tab and from window to window, open whatever you want. 

 

If you go to a page that requires JAVA script, move to the settings window, press enter, go back to the page and reload it with f5.  If you know in advance that the page requires JAVA script, you can change the setting and then load the page as usual in the other window or tab.

As I said in another message, many pages now require scripts to function properly.  but when you are dealing with a site where certain pages do and certain ones don't like The New York Times Site, if you do the following, you will have easier to navigate article pages.

Open the home page or another page that requires scripts.  I don't know which do and don't in general.  the home page does as does the New York Times in print page.  You can tell by experimentation and what you know about sites you have visited if the pages display as they should when scripts are off.  The Times home page doesn't show all content if JAVA is off.  It shows some and for just a quick look at some important articles, that's fine.  But perhaps thirty to forty percent of the articles can't be seen if scripts are off.  So if you want to see all the articles and read them conveniently with scripts off, do the following:

Open The times home page, for example with Scripts enabled.

Then switch to the settings window and press enter to turn scripts off. 

Now go back to the other page.  Scripts will still be running on that page because it was opened before you changed the setting.  Find an article you want to read.  Use Shift enter instead of just enter.  The article will open in a new window and scripts won't be runnning.  The page may load noticeably faster and there will be considerably less interruptions on the page for things like advertising. 

Once finished, close the window with alt f4.  You will be back in the home page window, just where you left off. 

 

As I said, it's somewhat or rather geeky, but you may see benefits well worth having if you experiment and try seeing how things differ when scripts are allowed and not.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

 

Gene,
I would to know how to do it in Firefox. Please, may you explain it to us? :)


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 22/01/2019 21:16, Gene escreveu:

This would probably be considered a somewhat geeky solution but it is effective and something some people might want to know about.  I avoid a lot of problems on pages that don't require JAVA script by having it off on such pages..  Alot of what you are describing, intrusive ads, refreshing pages, videos or audio that plays, are often displayed or played by use of JAVA scripts. 

 

As one possible solution to the audio problem when JAVA scripts are on, I saw in one browser, it may have been Chrome, a setting that allows you to tell the browser not to play audio on web pages.  I don't recall the exact wording and it might be different such as referring to audio and videos or a variation.  Others may know about that setting.  I saw it in passing recently but I didn't try to remember anything about it. 

 

Increasingly, pages require JAVA scripts to work properly but on a page with an article, you usually don't need to have it on.  I can explain more how I do this reasonably efficiently in Chrome and Firefox if people want to know. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

 

I was just wandering as the web is getting more and more difficult for us visually impaired and blind person.  It is not only the ads but also videos that suddenly are launched when you are trying to read something and pages that refreshed and you are no longer where you were as what you were reading has moved.  All these annoyances make the web, at times, difficult to navigate.  My first option is coming to this fortunate list and various members have kindly provided various solutions.  Thanks for your suggestions.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

 

The ADA says things should be accessible.  I don't know if inconvenience ever rises to a level of a violation of accessibility laws, but it often doesn't.  I would suggest, when problems of formatting or such as you are describing now are found, that you ask if people know of ways to reduce or eliminate the problem instead of first resorting to a legal remedy which you will likely not get support for by institutions or those who bring accessibility actions and which may take a long time to be ejudicated in the court system. 

 

In this case, while I don't know what browser you are using , try another browser.  Also, if you do or don't want to try another browser first, Some browsers have a reading view.  If they don't, you can use an add-on.  This removes a lot of extraneous material from web pages and it may remove these long links. 

 

also, there is an NVDA add-on I saw discussed about a month ago that may deal with a problem like yours but I don't recall the name and it may do other things you don't like.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 12:22 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

 

Hi All,

Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of which are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying and difficult.  Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com… they are becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we may need to look into and report.

Is there any way to skip the ads?  Is there a freeware ads blocker that works well with NVDA?

Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 


Re: editing in Word

 

You can use CTRL+Shift+Right Arrow to add on to the currently selected word (or whatever) if you want to snag the period and whitespace after it.

A word has been defined as alphanumeric characters, sans punctuation marks, for quite a while now.

You could also use Word's selection mode, if your main concern when selecting sentences is getting the terminal punctuation with it:

Press F8 to turn on selection mode, and then press F8 once to select a word, twice to select a sentence, three times to select a paragraph, or four times to select the document. Hit ESC to exit selection mode.  The text you selected with your successive F8 presses is still selected.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Open Office/libreOffice

 

And the question, "Upgrading from what?/What existing version of Office are you using?," comes to mind.

I just recently upgraded from 2010, which is getting rickety but is still supported, to Office 2016.   Office 2016 will still be supported for some years to come, and with the availability of recycled licenses out of the EU one can upgrade to the top version, Pro Plus, for very little money.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: NVDA and ads blocker

Gene
 

It doesn't matter if the ads are accessible.  They shouldn't interfere with a blind person using the site.  But good luck with that quixotic battle.  Ads come from all sorts of companies and are usually third party ads.  If they're are only a small number of ad designers, there might be some hope.  But I suspect the number is large.
 
You say there are an increasing number of sites that don't allow you to use them if an ad blocker is on.  They may be usable using my method. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker

I'm encountering not so much ads, but long links mainly used to track. By
which I mean, say you subscribe to an rss or mail list feed from a council.
they will send an html email in which these long links are not just the
direct address of a page, but are designed to click through some kind of
click measuring or tracking system so, one assumes they can find out where
you got to the information from ie, from another web site, or the email list
etc. I know of no add blocker which can sort this mess out, as strictly
speaking they are still links on the page much like the long javascript ones
you see a lot that mean nothing, but are often hidden from the sighted in
some way.
 If they are actual adverts, then I've a pet peeve to  say, and I do not see
how nvda can be adapted to fix it. Many sites will not let you in if they
see an ad blocker but it matters not how accessible the underlying site is
if the advertisers make their adverts disruptive to access software with
scrolling messages moving graphics or all sorts of other effects. Surely if
a site is accessible they should be able to stipulate that any ads sent via
it are accessible as well.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert " <coccinelle86@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 6:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker


> Hi All,
>
> Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of
> which
> are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying
> and difficult.  Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com. they are
> becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we
> may need to look into and report.
>
> Is there any way to skip the ads?  Is there a freeware ads blocker that
> works well with NVDA?
>
> Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Blessings
>
> Pascal
>
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