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Re: Urgent Help With Accessing Google Drive and Docs
Ann Byrne
The book is excellent. I spent the morning curled up with it. At $12, it's a steal!
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At 05:55 PM 1/22/2019, you wrote:
it just so happens that in an email message I received from Mystic Access, they mention a book they've just produced on how to use the Google suite of products with your PC. They also have an audio tutorial. You can visit them at http://www.mysticaccess.com to learn more about all their products. I just completed their Wordpress course, and I've used some of their other tutorials and products, and they're all great, so I highly recommend them. Good luck.
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Re: Urgent Help With Accessing Google Drive and Docs
Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
it just so happens that in an email message I received from Mystic Access, they mention a book they've just produced on how to use the Google suite of products with your PC. They also have an audio tutorial. You can visit them at http://www.mysticaccess.com to learn more about all their products. I just completed their Wordpress course, and I've used some of their other tutorials and products, and they're all great, so I highly recommend them. Good luck.
-- Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com abbietaylor945@...
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
On Breitbart.com, when you click on an article to read and scroll down to read it, they all have embedded several links which are ads. I use the page every day and there is no exception. I just installed UBlock Origin, and my visit to Breitbart was much smoother. I was able to read the first article without running into links for ads. Thanks again Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
It appears that on Breitbart.com, some of the ads being referred to are between links for articles. The message wasn't descriptive of what pages on the site the adds being complained of occur. If some of the ads appear between the links on the home page, then the NVDA add-on being discussed won't help. That add-on is to allow you to skip ads in articles. The reading feature I discussed won't help because that is specifically for reading articles. It appears that of the options being discussed, ad blockers are the only ones that will solve the problem of ads appearing on pages like the Breitbart.com home page, where there appear to be a lot of them interspersed between article links. the other remedies for ads, such as the add-on and paragraph reading may be useful. They may also be used to skip intrusive material that often is placed between paragraphs in articles. But I'm saying that there are different common interruptions to reading text and mentioning these may be helpful in different contexts.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Simple answer: yes. It essentially wipes out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see them. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Brian,
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If I install this add-on, I'll automatically block all scripts, right? That is, I'll actually don't have any control about what to block and what to don't, isn't it? A softer way to do it would be what I'm looking for. I don't want to block all these things all the time, only in certain websites. Any idea? Em 22/01/2019 21:35, Brian Vogel
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
Yes please, do! thanks
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 6:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
This would probably be considered a somewhat geeky solution but it is effective and something some people might want to know about. I avoid a lot of problems on pages that don't require JAVA script by having it off on such pages.. Alot of what you are describing, intrusive ads, refreshing pages, videos or audio that plays, are often displayed or played by use of JAVA scripts.
As one possible solution to the audio problem when JAVA scripts are on, I saw in one browser, it may have been Chrome, a setting that allows you to tell the browser not to play audio on web pages. I don't recall the exact wording and it might be different such as referring to audio and videos or a variation. Others may know about that setting. I saw it in passing recently but I didn't try to remember anything about it.
Increasingly, pages require JAVA scripts to work properly but on a page with an article, you usually don't need to have it on. I can explain more how I do this reasonably efficiently in Chrome and Firefox if people want to know.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Pascal Lambert Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
I was just wandering as the web is getting more and more difficult for us visually impaired and blind person. It is not only the ads but also videos that suddenly are launched when you are trying to read something and pages that refreshed and you are no longer where you were as what you were reading has moved. All these annoyances make the web, at times, difficult to navigate. My first option is coming to this fortunate list and various members have kindly provided various solutions. Thanks for your suggestions. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
The ADA says things should be accessible. I don't know if inconvenience ever rises to a level of a violation of accessibility laws, but it often doesn't. I would suggest, when problems of formatting or such as you are describing now are found, that you ask if people know of ways to reduce or eliminate the problem instead of first resorting to a legal remedy which you will likely not get support for by institutions or those who bring accessibility actions and which may take a long time to be ejudicated in the court system.
In this case, while I don't know what browser you are using , try another browser. Also, if you do or don't want to try another browser first, Some browsers have a reading view. If they don't, you can use an add-on. This removes a lot of extraneous material from web pages and it may remove these long links.
also, there is an NVDA add-on I saw discussed about a month ago that may deal with a problem like yours but I don't recall the name and it may do other things you don't like.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi All, Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of which are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying and difficult. Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com… they are becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we may need to look into and report. Is there any way to skip the ads? Is there a freeware ads blocker that works well with NVDA? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Many thanks Blessings Pascal
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Marcio, Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Gene,
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I would to know how to do it in Firefox. Please, may you explain it to us? :) Em 22/01/2019 21:16, Gene escreveu:
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Lino Morales
I’m aware of this setting. FF has it and so does Edge. That was introduced last year for Edge during the Insider test builds for 1709 if memory serves. C Net is bad about this. I just want to read the article not hear the vid along with it.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 6:16:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker This would probably be considered a somewhat geeky solution but it is effective and something some people might want to know about. I avoid a lot of problems on pages that don't require JAVA script by having it off on such
pages.. Alot of what you are describing, intrusive ads, refreshing pages, videos or audio that plays, are often displayed or played by use of JAVA scripts.
As one possible solution to the audio problem when JAVA scripts are on, I saw in one browser, it may have been Chrome, a setting that allows you to tell the browser not to play audio on web pages. I don't recall the exact wording
and it might be different such as referring to audio and videos or a variation. Others may know about that setting. I saw it in passing recently but I didn't try to remember anything about it.
Increasingly, pages require JAVA scripts to work properly but on a page with an article, you usually don't need to have it on. I can explain more how I do this reasonably efficiently in Chrome and Firefox if people want to
know.
Gene
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From:
Pascal Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
I was just wandering as the web is getting more and more difficult for us visually impaired and blind person. It is not only the ads but also videos that suddenly are launched when you are trying to read something and pages that refreshed and you are no longer where you were as what you were reading has moved. All these annoyances make the web, at times, difficult to navigate. My first option is coming to this fortunate list and various members have kindly provided various solutions. Thanks for your suggestions. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene
The ADA says things should be accessible. I don't know if inconvenience ever rises to a level of a violation of accessibility laws, but it often doesn't. I would suggest, when problems of formatting or such as you are describing now are found, that you ask if people know of ways to reduce or eliminate the problem instead of first resorting to a legal remedy which you will likely not get support for by institutions or those who bring accessibility actions and which may take a long time to be ejudicated in the court system.
In this case, while I don't know what browser you are using , try another browser. Also, if you do or don't want to try another browser first, Some browsers have a reading view. If they don't, you can use an add-on. This removes a lot of extraneous material from web pages and it may remove these long links.
also, there is an NVDA add-on I saw discussed about a month ago that may deal with a problem like yours but I don't recall the name and it may do other things you don't like.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi All, Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of which are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying and difficult. Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com… they are becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we may need to look into and report. Is there any way to skip the ads? Is there a freeware ads blocker that works well with NVDA? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Many thanks Blessings Pascal
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Gene
This would probably be considered a somewhat geeky
solution but it is effective and something some people might want to know
about. I avoid a lot of problems on pages that don't require JAVA script
by having it off on such pages.. Alot of what you are describing,
intrusive ads, refreshing pages, videos or audio that plays, are often displayed
or played by use of JAVA scripts.
As one possible solution to the audio problem when
JAVA scripts are on, I saw in one browser, it may have been Chrome, a setting
that allows you to tell the browser not to play audio on web pages. I
don't recall the exact wording and it might be different such as referring to
audio and videos or a variation. Others may know about that setting.
I saw it in passing recently but I didn't try to remember anything about
it.
Increasingly, pages require JAVA scripts to work
properly but on a page with an article, you usually don't need to have it
on. I can explain more how I do this reasonably efficiently in Chrome and
Firefox if people want to know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker I was just wandering as the web is getting more and more difficult for us visually impaired and blind person. It is not only the ads but also videos that suddenly are launched when you are trying to read something and pages that refreshed and you are no longer where you were as what you were reading has moved. All these annoyances make the web, at times, difficult to navigate. My first option is coming to this fortunate list and various members have kindly provided various solutions. Thanks for your suggestions. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene
The ADA says things should be accessible. I don't know if inconvenience ever rises to a level of a violation of accessibility laws, but it often doesn't. I would suggest, when problems of formatting or such as you are describing now are found, that you ask if people know of ways to reduce or eliminate the problem instead of first resorting to a legal remedy which you will likely not get support for by institutions or those who bring accessibility actions and which may take a long time to be ejudicated in the court system.
In this case, while I don't know what browser you are using , try another browser. Also, if you do or don't want to try another browser first, Some browsers have a reading view. If they don't, you can use an add-on. This removes a lot of extraneous material from web pages and it may remove these long links.
also, there is an NVDA add-on I saw discussed about a month ago that may deal with a problem like yours but I don't recall the name and it may do other things you don't like.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi All, Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of which are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying and difficult. Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com… they are becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we may need to look into and report. Is there any way to skip the ads? Is there a freeware ads blocker that works well with NVDA? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Many thanks Blessings Pascal
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 06:10 PM, marcio wrote:
Does it apply to Firefox as well? (the need to grant an add-on permission to run in private mode)It does not appear so. I actually checked what was going on in Firefox when I was posting that last message, presuming I'd find an analogous setting. I did not. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Lino Morales
Gene it’s a way to get to the pertant INFO say in an article. It’s a bear to find the beginning of a news article a lot of the time. Like I said before pages content are always changing so I feel this not effective. Adds are everywhere. We just got to find a happy medium to filter out all the clutter. The more I visit sites like: www.wnd.com etc. the worse it gets.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 6:06:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker I doubt that ads are consistent on web sites. They may be of different sizes, and I wouldn't assume they will remain on the same exact part of the page. I don't ever recall Flexible Web described as a way to skip ads.
Gene
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I don’t know if the Jaws Flexible Web main purpose is to work as an add blocker. I use it to filter out/block elements like in forums (Reddit for example) and other sites/domains where things are pretty constant and just the simple structure of the site is a bit too cluttered for me. Cristóbal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Way worse Bryan. I can attest to this. This is a far better solution than JAW’s Flexible Web. I mean pages regardless of being a news site or not are constantly changing so to me this type of thing they are doing is ineffective IMHO. So don’t get any bright ideas NVDA add-on devs on here. Said add-on should do it no matter what screen reader you use.
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From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Simple answer: yes. It essentially wipes out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see them. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Brian,
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Does it apply to Firefox as well? Em 22/01/2019 20:58, Brian Vogel
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As an aside, for those who use incognito mode in Chrome, you must give any extension (not just uBlock Origin) you wish to allow to run in that mode permission to do so. There is an Allow in incognito toggle that shows up if you hit the Details button for a given extension.
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Gene
I doubt that ads are consistent on web sites.
They may be of different sizes, and I wouldn't assume they will remain on the
same exact part of the page. I don't ever recall Flexible Web described as
a way to skip ads.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
I don’t know if the Jaws Flexible Web main purpose is to work as an add blocker. I use it to filter out/block elements like in forums (Reddit for example) and other sites/domains where things are pretty constant and just the simple structure of the site is a bit too cluttered for me. Cristóbal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lino Morales
Way worse Bryan. I can attest to this. This is a far better solution than JAW’s Flexible Web. I mean pages regardless of being a news site or not are constantly changing so to me this type of thing they are doing is ineffective IMHO. So don’t get any bright ideas NVDA add-on devs on here. Said add-on should do it no matter what screen reader you use.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian
Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Simple answer: yes. It essentially wipes
out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set
of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see
them. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
As an aside, for those who use incognito mode in Chrome, you must give any extension (not just uBlock Origin) you wish to allow to run in that mode permission to do so. There is an Allow in incognito toggle that shows up if you hit the Details button for a given extension.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Gene
It appears that on Breitbart.com, some of the ads
being referred to are between links for articles. The message wasn't
descriptive of what pages on the site the adds being complained of occur.
If some of the ads appear between the links on the home page, then the NVDA
add-on being discussed won't help. That add-on is to allow you to skip ads
in articles. The reading feature I discussed won't help because that is
specifically for reading articles. It appears that of the options being
discussed, ad blockers are the only ones that will solve the problem of ads
appearing on pages like the Breitbart.com home page, where there appear to be a
lot of them interspersed between article links. the other remedies for
ads, such as the add-on and paragraph reading may be useful. They may also
be used to skip intrusive material that often is placed between paragraphs in
articles. But I'm saying that there are different common interruptions to
reading text and mentioning these may be helpful in different
contexts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Brian does it weed out most of the adds on news sites etc. You’ve talked about this extention beforeSimple answer: yes. It essentially wipes out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see them. I can't imagine browsing without an ad blocker. They drove me mad with the visual distraction (not to mention auditory, for some) well over a decade ago and I cannot imagine that things have gotten any better, probably they've gotten worse. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
I was just wandering as the web is getting more and more difficult for us visually impaired and blind person. It is not only the ads but also videos that suddenly are launched when you are trying to read something and pages that refreshed and you are no longer where you were as what you were reading has moved. All these annoyances make the web, at times, difficult to navigate. My first option is coming to this fortunate list and various members have kindly provided various solutions. Thanks for your suggestions. Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 1:37 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
The ADA says things should be accessible. I don't know if inconvenience ever rises to a level of a violation of accessibility laws, but it often doesn't. I would suggest, when problems of formatting or such as you are describing now are found, that you ask if people know of ways to reduce or eliminate the problem instead of first resorting to a legal remedy which you will likely not get support for by institutions or those who bring accessibility actions and which may take a long time to be ejudicated in the court system.
In this case, while I don't know what browser you are using , try another browser. Also, if you do or don't want to try another browser first, Some browsers have a reading view. If they don't, you can use an add-on. This removes a lot of extraneous material from web pages and it may remove these long links.
also, there is an NVDA add-on I saw discussed about a month ago that may deal with a problem like yours but I don't recall the name and it may do other things you don't like.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi All, Today some pages are so riddled with long links that are ads, some of which are several lines long, making reading with a screen reader very annoying and difficult. Example of pages are Breitbart.com, wnd.com… they are becoming very common which, in my view, is a violation of the ADA that we may need to look into and report. Is there any way to skip the ads? Is there a freeware ads blocker that works well with NVDA? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. Many thanks Blessings Pascal
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Cristóbal
I don’t know if the Jaws Flexible Web main purpose is to work as an add blocker. I use it to filter out/block elements like in forums (Reddit for example) and other sites/domains where things are pretty constant and just the simple structure of the site is a bit too cluttered for me. Cristóbal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker
Way worse Bryan. I can attest to this. This is a far better solution than JAW’s Flexible Web. I mean pages regardless of being a news site or not are constantly changing so to me this type of thing they are doing is ineffective IMHO. So don’t get any bright ideas NVDA add-on devs on here. Said add-on should do it no matter what screen reader you use.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Simple answer: yes. It essentially wipes out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see them. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Lino Morales
Way worse Bryan. I can attest to this. This is a far better solution than JAW’s Flexible Web. I mean pages regardless of being a news site or not are constantly changing so to me this type of thing they are doing is ineffective IMHO. So don’t get any bright ideas NVDA add-on devs on here. Said add-on should do it no matter what screen reader you use.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:49:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ads blocker On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Brian does it weed out most of the adds on news sites etc. You’ve talked about this extention beforeSimple answer: yes. It essentially wipes out all online ads anywhere they occur. As new ones pop up the set of definitions gets updated very quickly and most of us never see them. I can't imagine browsing without an ad blocker. They drove me mad with the visual distraction (not to mention auditory, for some) well over a decade ago and I cannot imagine that things have gotten any better, probably they've gotten worse. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Always glad to help :)
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Em 22/01/2019 20:06, Pascal Lambert
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Re: NVDA and ads blocker
Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
Thanks Brian and everyone else who came to the rescue! Fortunate to have this wonderful list! Blessings to all Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
The uBlock Origin ad blocker works beautifully with both Firefox and Chrome. It's not an accessibility issue if you're bought.barded with the same ads as everyone else is. I haven't browsed without an ad blocker for many years now because the ads are ubiquitous and distracting. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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