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Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Aine Kelly Costello
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a while On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
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Re: control+f - The General Purpose Find Command in Windows
Gene
NVDA f is used for formating information and it is so long established that it should be left as it is. That is particularly so since JAWS uses the same command to announce formatting information, and that makes using the two screen-readers more similar and helps in a transition or if people use both.
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Why don't you use the search command as it is? I would think you could change it to something else, since NVDA lets you change keystrokes for commands. But you may want to choose something other than what you initially specified since you would then have to change the announce formatting command and the letter f, standing for formatting, used with the NVDA key is a logical command. Gene
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From: John Sanfilippo Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] control+f I have two wishes concerning NVDA control F: 1, That it change to just NVDA f, I never use that. 2, That they do away with having to press Enter when search not found. O, and #, that it makes a sound and wraps to the top again.
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Re: control+f - The General Purpose Find Command in Windows
John Sanfilippo
I have two wishes concerning NVDA control F: 1, That it change to just NVDA f, I never use that. 2, That they do away with having to press Enter when search not found. O, and #, that it makes a sound and wraps to the top again.
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Re: In-Process for 7th September is out
Steve Nutt
Yeah, RH Voice isn't bad but Espeak is better in my view.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via groups.io Sent: 08 September 2020 21:00 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process for 7th September is out Rh voice would be nice I will get the page later if you need it or maybe someone else will b beet me to it. On 08/09/2020 02:15, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: I think that's a great idea. If more people spoke up about their
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Hi all, <snip I guess when working out where best to add information, what would you suggest needs adding? That seems to describe the feature to me, but maybe I am too familiar with it to see what is missing? PL] When would I want to alter this setting?
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Re: NVDA With Task Manager
Yes that is what I thought to.
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A lot of these things should only process data while idol. Of course, if the company in question is having this on their servers it may simply be set to do whatever it does whenever something is idol. That could mean that when you run nvda it may actually take time to stop whatever then go back. Of course, having used nvda with some extensive opperations from time to time, you really don't need to do much to break nvda completely or slow it down such that its broken unless you reboot. Excluding waterfox, I have had this happen with some of my recording programs and with some converters and the like. Most of the time things come back after a bit or after the app is done but sometimes depending where all the automated whatevers are at and so on, I have had situations where things have screwed over and I have had to reboot but who knows. Of course if this thing is configured to run taking any idol data asnd assuming its installed on all the systems it actually may be monitoring for any idol time available. This is only a guess, so that being the case I doubt the system can differentiate exactly what that means. Nvda to be honest doesn't use that much power generally, I mean it could run at a stretch on singlecore systems, so depending on addons and synth used, nvda really doesn't need that much cpu power at all. As for it being an app, its almost an old style tsr as supposed to an active thing sitting in systray. So maybe the saver doesn't reguard it as an active process, and in some ways it would be right. Nvda really doesn't process much data by itself all the time if at all. However it is effected by everything else around it. Its one of the querks. Its like the enhanced soundcard issues. Those enhancements are to hide the small speaker issues with laptops. They work well with speech in movies and music but tts just aint long enough a loop to process correctly.
On 20/10/2020, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
I might have missed something here, but shouldn't the screen saver only
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Gene
I would compare it to Word Wrap in Notepad except that you define the number of characters before the wrap occurs. I think the comparison is especially apt to Notepad because you can write as long a line as you wish in Notepad but the wrap makes it manageable on-screen.
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation Gene, Interesting. And nothing I ever, in a million years, would have "read in" to this setting. It sounds like it's a way to break up text into segments a maximum of X characters long, at most. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: NVDA With Task Manager
Quentin Christensen
I might have missed something here, but shouldn't the screen saver only come on after there is no activity on the PC for awhile? I know we had an issue at one time where if you were reading a particularly long piece of text (which took longer to read than the timeout for the screensaver) it would stop reading when the screensaver starter. I think we actually resolved that one, but that's about the only instance I can think of where the screensaver should cause a problem? The only other "screensaver" type thing which can be problematic, is there are a few "distributed computing" programs around now like BOINC and Folding @ Home and others. They use your computer's idle time (when the processor isn't busy doing anything else) to compute various things from finding cures for cancer (or Covid_19), to searching for alien life and anything else you can think of which would take a lot of computing power. Sometimes those programs will keep trying to use processing power even when you are using the PC, and this can cause significant degradation of performance with screenreaders (and even in general without using a screenreader). Otherwise, I'd be interested to learn more about the screenreader causing problems. Quentin.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:11 AM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote: I just got an error trying that at the Windows 10 CLI: --
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Gene,
Interesting. And nothing I ever, in a million years, would have "read in" to this setting. It sounds like it's a way to break up text into segments a maximum of X characters long, at most. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Gene
There is no truncating. I worked with the feature in JAWS years ago. I don't remember the line length in JAWS, if it was the same, longer or shorter than in NVDA, both using default settings. The point of it is that the MSAA buffer needs to have a line length set. the underlying page has none and the line length is determined by how much will fit on the screen being used unless the page designer has placed line codes on the page, which they usually don't. So you can set the length of a line you hear when you up and down arrow on a page.
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If I am looking for something on a page and I want to be able to move quickly from line to line listening to a bit and then moving on, I may want shorter lines than the default so I can quickly move by line and when I'm close to what I'm looking for, slow down. If lines are too long, I may miss what I'm looking for because it may be near the ende of a long line and I may move down before hearing it. Others may have other uses. That is the use I made of the feature. I set the line length to be shorter and left it there so I could move quickly from line to line and not have too much on a line to prevent easy skimming. Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation Quentin, Here's some input in the form of questions. What constitutes a line? Does the maximum number of characters result in truncation and, if so, under what reading conditions? (I can't imagine this setting affects read all behavior, for instance). If a line (after defined) is longer than that maximum, what happens when that occurs during browse mode? -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Gene
It might be a good idea to add that when moving by line in a web page looking for something, the user might want to make the lines shorter so that you don't have to listen to long lines of text to make sure you haven't missed the information when you move to another line.
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From: Quentin Christensen Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:37 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation I think having the maximum number of characters per line setting described where it is in the browse mode settings section is fine - where the previous section 6 covers Browse mode in general, the settings section covers how to change the behaviour of different aspects. So for that setting particularly, currently the user guide simply offers: "Maximum Number of Characters on One Line This field sets the maximum length of a line in browse mode (in characters)." I guess when working out where best to add information, what would you suggest needs adding? That seems to describe the feature to me, but maybe I am too familiar with it to see what is missing? If anything more was needed on that, I'd be inclined to consider covering it in more depth in the "Basic Training for NVDA" module moreso than the user guide. On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:14 PM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: I haven't looked at the user guide a lot. However, I found yesterday, regarding the line length documentation this: 12.1.14. Browse Mode (NVDA+control+b) The Browse Mode category in the NVDA Settings dialog is used to configure NVDA's behaviour when you read and navigate complex documents such as web pages. This category contains the following options: Maximum Number of Characters on One Line This field sets the maximum length of a line in browse mode (in characters). That's true but how many people would understand where it might be useful? I found the same feature useful in JAWS years ago becaused when I moved from line to line manually, the lines as displayed were too long to find something conveniently. I wanted lines shorter so I could skim by line much faster and more efficiently. There are two things that come to mind: When browse mode is discussed earlier, should the section that shows the settings with explanation be referenced as a further information or see also, or for settings, see or something of the sort? Also, is this section and some other parts of the user guide intended for those who already have an idea of how such settings might be used in general or for a more advanced user who may either understand the information or play around and see what the effect is of settings information that isn't clear. Manuals, in my experience are usually concise and I think that is one reason tutorials are so much more popular. But the degree of concision may be opened to useful discussion. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Quentin Christensen Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation Hi everyone, Lots of good points here. So firstly, from a very simplistic view - if there are any settings which experienced people such as yourselves can't get an explanation of from the User Guide, then that's definitely something we should address. Please either let me know (or file a GitHub issue) as you find examples. Re the user guide being too thick and heavy for new users to get start with - that's largely because that's not who it is really aimed at. For a lot of users, the Basic Training for NVDA would be the best place to start. There is potentially a gap for a short "quick start" guide, and I'd be happy to explore that further with anyone who has ideas on the subject. Joseph, re some sort of training for new contributors - that too is a great idea, and I'd be happy to work further with you on it. I've made a note to follow all of this up (since it's into the evening here and I'm trying to figure out book week costumes while getting the kids to bed). On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:44 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote: Where I need direction on what I need to study in order to be a tech writer for NVDA. I believe that once I understand something I can teach it to anyone. My stumbling block is that I have had some programming classes but that was twenty years ago. I taught myself basic web design from a book. What do I need to know to be of help where the users guide is concerned? ****** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! Family times where there is fun for every ear! http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3 Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for Family times ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation Hi, Agreed (that’s one of the reasons why I comment a lot in my add-on source code). One holiday wish I have (possibly a long-term wish) is to help folks get started on revamping the NVDA community documentation. At least this can include add-on user guides, but I foresee a day where the screen reader user guide would not escape this rewrite in hopes of making it more relevant for users. I would go so far as ask NVDA code contributors to add extensive documentation in source code itself – it is now possible to do it easily with help from a module called Sphinx, a source code based documentation generator. There are major issues to consider, however: Who is the target audience: thinking about this changes the game, as it will dictate tone, style, word usage, and organization of the document and supplemental materials. Mindset of code contributors: are we just software developers or technical authors? Some people would argue that developers should focus on programming and testing, leaving the task of documenting what developers wrote to technical authors, and this separation of concerns may foster better communication amongst team members. On the other hand, by forcing developers to become technical authors, they can make crucial decisions about the user-visible aspects of a given product a bit early. How can we show we accept diversity in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors: although the community documentation was written by NV Access people at first, it is increasingly written by people from diverse backgrounds in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors (although I did receive training on technical communication and software development, I’m not a native English speaker). This is more so for parts that are written by people who may have different interpretation about a UI message or concepts, more so if the author’s native language is not English (the reverse is true for translators as they need to grasp concepts written in English in their native languages). My responses to the above questions are: Who is the target audience: it varies. For NVDA user guide, it is users with differing skill levels. For add-on guides, they target end users. For this reason, whenever I edit the NVDA user guide or add-on guides, I think about what users expect and NVDA’s response. This changes if we’re dealing with a document meant for developers (such as add-on internals and such). Mindset of code contributors: I believe that, as much as programming skills is important, willingness to communicate with audiences (users, other contributors, industry experts, etc.) is also important. One way to practice both is thinking and writing to and about users, therefore I tend to fall into a bit of the latter category from above: programming is, in one way or another, writing. Python is just one of the more specialized languages used to communicate with another entity (the machine), and if one can teach a computer to do something (along with fixing mistakes), it would be possible to train developers to respect users more by writing good documentation (of course someone may need to look at the documentation for style and such). My philosophy partly stems from my experiences as a former computer science major at a college I attended (different from the one I’m about to graduate from): my first computer science professor stressed the importance of source code comments and documentation, and I still practice this lesson today, which fuels my overall frustration with the current state of NVDA user guide and source code documentation in general. I think one exercise code contributors can do before submitting anything to GitHub (specifically, pull; requests) is writing an early user facing documentation, because doing so helps you improve your writing skills and think carefully about the impact of your changes when users meet them (I sometimes find myself struggling for minutes to hours over UI messages and documentation for this reason; I know what my code will do, but I hit a roadblock when explaining what I’ve done to would-be users before actually writing code). How can we show we are a group of people coming from diverse backgrounds: I think this goal was somewhat achieved when we look at recent NVDA work – many new features and bug fixes included in NVDA 2020.3 were written by someone other than an NV Access staff member, from people living in different countries and speaking many languages. But I know that we can improve on that somehow. Another wish I have, mostly for Quentin: can we develop some sort of a training program for would-be contributors wishing to improve the overall NVDA community documentation, including the user guide? It may include basics on technical writing, tone and style, audience analysis, exercises where coding and documentation should be done together, and documentation production in a variety of formats (including online media). I think this may help us dive deeper into user guide issues being brought up, including the guide being “too thick” for newbies (in terms of understanding, lack of solid examples, and friendliness), especially for preferences chapter. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation Joseph, While I applaud your efforts, and tutorials are invaluable, I wasn't even going that far. I'm talking basic documentation, where each item in a panel/pane/settings group in a given pane are briefly documented. There are myriad NVDA settings that, if their actual function is not directly obvious, which is the case, for example, with most checkboxes, then they're a black hole. Even I will admit that for all software it is a limited number of end users who refer to this sort of thing. That being said, some do, and it serves as a very important basis for new developers to develop depth of knowledge of "what's in there and what it's for." I was just commenting to someone for whom I've done custom VBA scripting for Outlook that I am eternally grateful to myself for having developed the habit of rigorously commenting my code, at a bare minimum, as even I would have no idea what some of what I've written actually does when looking at it much later. Complex stuff doesn't remain in "off the top of my head" mode (for most "mes") as time moves on. That's one of the reasons that basic documentation is so important. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Quentin,
Here's some input in the form of questions. What constitutes a line? Does the maximum number of characters result in truncation and, if so, under what reading conditions? (I can't imagine this setting affects read all behavior, for instance). If a line (after defined) is longer than that maximum, what happens when that occurs during browse mode? -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation
Quentin Christensen
I think having the maximum number of characters per line setting described where it is in the browse mode settings section is fine - where the previous section 6 covers Browse mode in general, the settings section covers how to change the behaviour of different aspects. So for that setting particularly, currently the user guide simply offers: "Maximum Number of Characters on One Line This field sets the maximum length of a line in browse mode (in characters)." I guess when working out where best to add information, what would you suggest needs adding? That seems to describe the feature to me, but maybe I am too familiar with it to see what is missing? If anything more was needed on that, I'd be inclined to consider covering it in more depth in the "Basic Training for NVDA" module moreso than the user guide.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:14 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: I haven't looked at the user guide a lot. However, I found yesterday, --
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Arlene
You can do this always the same as you did in earlier versions of windows. You have to go to windows E to get to the C drive. When you do scan disk error. Your choice of Screen reader will tell you if you have errors or not. If you don’t you can scan anyway. In the older versions of windows it did not tell you. I don’t know if you restart your computer or not. You probably would if you have errors.
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 19, 2020 9:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now
Hi, Arleen,
I think I remember fixing a drive in windows XP one time. I don't know how it's done in the latest version of windows 10 but it can't betoo much different.
Rosemarie
On 10/19/2020 9:26 AM, Arlene wrote:
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Arlene
No, it isn’t. You don’t need Narrator to do this. All you need to do is this. In my case, I go to this pc. Then I arrow until I get to my C drive. Don’t enter on it. I mean, DO NOT HIT ENTER! You do alt enter you end up on properties. You shift tab until you get to tools. There you find what you need to do. I don’t know in anybody else’s case. But where ever your C drive is. Like I say. Do not enter on it. You do alt enter.
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 19, 2020 9:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now
Hi, Arleen,
I think I remember fixing a drive in windows XP one time. I don't know how it's done in the latest version of windows 10 but it can't betoo much different.
Rosemarie
On 10/19/2020 9:26 AM, Arlene wrote:
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Arleen,
I think I remember fixing a drive in windows XP one time. I don't know how it's done in the latest version of windows 10 but it can't betoo much different.
Rosemarie
On 10/19/2020 9:26 AM, Arlene wrote:
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Arlene
Rose, I don’t know about this. But in older versions of windows. You can do a scandisk fix and what that did was fix anything that had become corrupt over time. You go to the control panel and find your c drive. You didn’t enter on it. You did alt enter. There, you check what you need scandisk fix your corrupt files and drives. Then you had to restart your computer and it took maybe an hour or depending on how big your computer hard drive is. I’ve done this in xp and 7. In the present time in my case I’d have to go to This pc and there I find my c drive. I wonder if that’s the same way or is there something different in fixing your drives? I hope this makes scence.
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 19, 2020 9:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now
Hi, Orlando,
You're absolutely right. I told her she needs to start learning to do some of these things for herself. I can't be holding her hand 24/7 when it comes to computers. Part of the problem is that when we blindies go for computer training, we get very poor training. I taught myself pretty much everything I know how to do because of tutorials andbeing on great lists like this one. I'm glad I'm not a computer instructor because I wouldn't tolerate a person saying things like "I don't know how to do xxxx". There's no excuse for laziness. I tried to get my friend to join different tech lists but she refuses to do so. I won't say anything more because it may sound like I'm judging her.
Rosemarie
On 10/19/2020 9:09 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io wrote: > At 01:44 PM 10/17/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > >She'll have to use narrator but she doesn't know how to check for drive > >damage. > > There's no nice way to say this; she needs to learn. Checking for hard > drive corruption is easy and accessible, either through thee Tools > tab under her hard drive's properties, or using the command "choked > /f C:," where C: is the letter of the drive to be checked. The > slash+F switch tells Windows to fix any scandisk errors it finds. > She can use the Optimize Drive option on her drive's properties, which > will check and defragment her disk. > > > No one would get behind a steering wheel without knowing how to use > the brakes. No one would try to use a microwave for the first time > without becoming acquainted with the panel layout and each button's > function. Yet, too many people, especially we "blindies," refuse to > learn enough about computers to keep them working and resolve urgent > problems, preferring to leave all these matters in the hands of often > unscrupulous technicians who may overcharge, keep computers longer > than necessary or live too far away to be practical. > All these circumstances demonstrate our need to become acquainted with > everything software-related that is accessible to use. Simply saying > we don't know how doesn't cut it anymore. we need to learn. > > As an example, for years, I've been dissatisfied with my laptop's > internal speakers, which I use exclusively for speech. The sub woofer > never seemed to work, or only worked intermittently. The wonderful > application Equalizer APO helped somewhat in this regard, but not > enough. I un installed and reinstalled the Realtek drivers, trying out > different official and unofficial versions, some of which worked > better than others. > > I learned the registry syntaxes of the Realtek and Nahimic keys,, but > editing the values seemed to do little good. > Finally, I learned about MN Devices, a section of the Windows registry > where the properties for each hardware device are laid out in great > detail. There, I found my Realtek devices:: speakers, headphones, > mic,digital out, etc. Under the Rendering category, I looked for any > values between 100 and 500, since I needed to change the cutoff > frequency to reengage the missing subwoofer. There are three such > settings. Once, I changed them to a value of 50 hz, everything worked > as I always wanted. > Would the average tech have taken time, even for a fee, to hunt down > this solution? Probably not. > Orlando Enrique Fiol > Charlotte, North Carolina > Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue > Ph.D. in Music theory > University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018 > > > > > >
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Orlando,
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You're absolutely right. I told her she needs to start learning to do some of these things for herself. I can't be holding her hand 24/7 when it comes to computers. Part of the problem is that when we blindies go for computer training, we get very poor training. I taught myself pretty much everything I know how to do because of tutorials andbeing on great lists like this one. I'm glad I'm not a computer instructor because I wouldn't tolerate a person saying things like "I don't know how to do xxxx". There's no excuse for laziness. I tried to get my friend to join different tech lists but she refuses to do so. I won't say anything more because it may sound like I'm judging her. Rosemarie
On 10/19/2020 9:09 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io wrote:
At 01:44 PM 10/17/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:She'll have to use narrator but she doesn't know how to check for driveThere's no nice way to say this; she needs to learn. Checking for hard drive corruption is easy and accessible, either through thee Tools tab under her hard drive's properties, or using the command "choked /f C:," where C: is the letter of the drive to be checked. The slash+F switch tells Windows to fix any scandisk errors it finds.
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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now
Orlando Enrique Fiol
At 01:44 PM 10/17/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
She'll have to use narrator but she doesn't know how to check for driveThere's no nice way to say this; she needs to learn. Checking for hard drive corruption is easy and accessible, either through thee Tools tab under her hard drive's properties, or using the command "choked /f C:," where C: is the letter of the drive to be checked. The slash+F switch tells Windows to fix any scandisk errors it finds. She can use the Optimize Drive option on her drive's properties, which will check and defragment her disk. No one would get behind a steering wheel without knowing how to use the brakes. No one would try to use a microwave for the first time without becoming acquainted with the panel layout and each button's function. Yet, too many people, especially we "blindies," refuse to learn enough about computers to keep them working and resolve urgent problems, preferring to leave all these matters in the hands of often unscrupulous technicians who may overcharge, keep computers longer than necessary or live too far away to be practical. All these circumstances demonstrate our need to become acquainted with everything software-related that is accessible to use. Simply saying we don't know how doesn't cut it anymore. we need to learn. As an example, for years, I've been dissatisfied with my laptop's internal speakers, which I use exclusively for speech. The sub woofer never seemed to work, or only worked intermittently. The wonderful application Equalizer APO helped somewhat in this regard, but not enough. I un installed and reinstalled the Realtek drivers, trying out different official and unofficial versions, some of which worked better than others. I learned the registry syntaxes of the Realtek and Nahimic keys,, but editing the values seemed to do little good. Finally, I learned about MN Devices, a section of the Windows registry where the properties for each hardware device are laid out in great detail. There, I found my Realtek devices:: speakers, headphones, mic,digital out, etc. Under the Rendering category, I looked for any values between 100 and 500, since I needed to change the cutoff frequency to reengage the missing subwoofer. There are three such settings. Once, I changed them to a value of 50 hz, everything worked as I always wanted. Would the average tech have taken time, even for a fee, to hunt down this solution? Probably not. Orlando Enrique Fiol Charlotte, North Carolina Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue Ph.D. in Music theory University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
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Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Brian Moore
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using? Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie
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