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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Dale Leavens
 

Really!

Is there anything at all that can be added to this subject?

It isn’t happening.  Get over it already! Or take it to the chat group.

Dale Leavens

On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Did nvda work on them.
Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Did nvda work on them.
Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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Re: wish.com

Adel Spence
 

chek your email

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 4:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] wish.com


Hello I am trying to get wish.com to read on the desktop computer

all I am seeing is a hole buynch of links with numbers any one ever used wish.com? if so how can you tell what you are3 even looking at?

Hank


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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

I know that the windows phone is no longer, but you can still get your hands on them.

Did nvda work on them.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 21:52, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.
And given that the Windows Phone is deader than a doornail, that's a good thing.
 
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

And, at this point, this topic really has run its course.

The site https://www.stascom.co.za/ has been checked by me and by all appearances is entirely safe, so is the specific page for his Stascom utility is as well.

Read all about it there if you have any interest.  This topic is now locked.
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

JM Casey
 

Damn. I’m sure when Cristobal sent that first message, he had no idea what it would spawn. Sure, he could have included a description; I agree with that, since I’m not one of the people directly addressed in his message. Those were people who already use (and love) this particular piece of software. Maybe that number is small; maybe not; I really have no idea, but his oversight was a small one regardless. I agree with Brian; it’s really not a big deal to click on the link and at least see what it’s all about, if you happen to be interested enough to even bother doing anything other than hitting that delete button in your e-mail client.


locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.
And given that the Windows Phone is deader than a doornail, that's a good thing.
 
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

Very well said. I wouldn't have said it better.
And with this, I'm done. No answers from me on this thread anymore :)


Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 17:39, Travis Siegel escreveu:

You know, if you're going to recommend something, you really should explain why you're recommending it.  Telling folks to go look it for themselves is kind of counterproductive.  If you're not willing to let folks know why you're recommending something, then in my opinion, you shouldn't be posting for folks to go try it out.  It's common courtesy to let folks know what something is when you're putting in a plug for others to use it.  I'm a bit irritated with folks telling us to try this, or download that without letting us know what it is that they want us to download or use.  I've been on lists where such messages recommending downloads without explanation as to what is being recommended would result in banning, because nobody has time to go research each and every link somebody posts just for the hell of it.  Also, with just a link there's no way to know if the link is real or some sort of spam link that will fill your pc with viruses.  I find nothing wrong with folks asking what something is before they take the time to click on it, especially these days when a single click can infect your pc with malware or leave your pc in an unbootable state.

On 3/10/2019 11:24 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo


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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:44 PM, Kwork wrote:
I stand by my decision to be overly cautious.
Which is, as you've said, is your choice.   The fact that I find it far too cautious is irrelevant when it comes to you (any you) making your final decisions.  All I can offer is what my decades of experience have taught me:   Most infections are the direct result of user action, and if you develop safe browsing habits you won't often get them.
 
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

On Linux we have Orca, which is a bit like NVDA, isn't it?

Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 17:13, Mallard escreveu:

Yes, it would be fantastic... Also on Linux...

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 10/03/2019 19:42, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 
Edited

Travis,

           Quietman7, a security expert who is an active contributor on Bleeping Computer, has written extensively on what you (any you) need to do to develop safe interaction habits with cyberspace.  The following four are, in my opinion, must-reads:

·         Users Themselves Are The Most Substantial Weakness In The Security Chain  (just that single message)

·         What you must understand regarding computer security  (also just this single message)

·         Best Practices for Safe Computing

·         Reflections on Antivirus/Antimalware Testing & Comparisons

You as an individual have to develop a personal "sniff test" regarding what is safe to click or download or not.  The kinds of come-ons you mention should immediately raise red flags and you're just asking for problems if you frequent sites that traffic in illegal software, videos, etc.

Eventually, your 16-year-old will learn if he doesn't want to keep having to go through the major gyrations he's imposing upon himself secondary to foolish behavior.  I'd actually expect that a 16-year-old has not yet developed that particular skill set, particularly given the general penchant for risk-taking among young men.

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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Kwork
 

Knowingly, not likely. If an email's been hacked, which I've seen before with messages resulting on other lists asking to click on links without description, enough said. I stand by my decision to be overly cautious.

On 3/10/2019 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
People, how probable is it that someone is going to take the effort to join an e-mailing list, one directly related to accessibility issues, and post a malicious link?

Risk assessment, in order to be accurate, needs to take a lot of factors into account, including the above.  I also know that I know the name Christo de Klerk either from earlier participation on this list or else the Win10 or JAWS group.

While I agree that a description would be nice, just because it might interest those not yet using something, but it is not unreasonable, in any way, to expect that someone click through to check out something.  It's a perfectly reasonable expectation.  Developing safe browsing and downloading habits for interacting with cyberspace does not extend to never clicking on any link where you don't know where it goes or you'd never go virtually anywhere.

When a site offers extensive documentation of what's there (and Nir Sofer's nirsoft.net is an excellent example) I certainly am not inclined to do anything other than offer a pointer and those who are interested should go there themselves.  In this specific case it's clear that the Mr. de Klerk uses and loves the software in question and seems to believe the reputation of Jacques Stassen may very well precede him.  I didn't know about him or his software, but clicked through to check it out.
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep exactly. I am very careful, yet I've ben infected more than once due to either my stupidity or a mistyped address etc etc etc so yeah I will not click on such links here or anywhere else and such behavior on any of my lists would probably put you o moderated status just to be on the safe side.

On 10 Mar 2019, at 14:18, Travis Siegel wrote:

It has nothing to do with vulnerabilities in browsers, javascript is perfectly capable of downloading malware to your machine without ever alerting you to the fact.  In fact, there have been recent articles, (and mentions on her podcast) from Kim kommando for this very thing, when she was talking about people getting you to click on sites ttrying to convince foks they had won some money, or would win money if they clicked on particular urls, which actually lead to sites that would infect your pc with malware.  It doesn't take much, if it did, then you'd not see so many folks getting infected from pirated video sites, which still hasn't taught my 16-year-old son to stop visiting such sites, even though he's had to reinstall windows twice from scratch as a result of such nonsense.

On 3/10/2019 4:42 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

It has nothing to do with vulnerabilities in browsers, javascript is perfectly capable of downloading malware to your machine without ever alerting you to the fact.  In fact, there have been recent articles, (and mentions on her podcast) from Kim kommando for this very thing, when she was talking about people getting you to click on sites ttrying to convince foks they had won some money, or would win money if they clicked on particular urls, which actually lead to sites that would infect your pc with malware.  It doesn't take much, if it did, then you'd not see so many folks getting infected from pirated video sites, which still hasn't taught my 16-year-old son to stop visiting such sites, even though he's had to reinstall windows twice from scratch as a result of such nonsense.

On 3/10/2019 4:42 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.


Re: wish.com

 

This site looks like it would be an accessibility nightmare regardless of screen reader.  It's a constantly scrolling list of things for sale, so nothing stays in place and all are moving targets.  It would not surprise me if the page itself is designed, for lack of a better term, as a carousel where random things get dropped into niches as the screen scrolls and where the images of the product are the way a user is strictly expected to know what it is they're looking at/for.
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi all

On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.

Regards Adrian Pocock.

On 10/03/2019 15:16, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

People, how probable is it that someone is going to take the effort to join an e-mailing list, one directly related to accessibility issues, and post a malicious link?

Risk assessment, in order to be accurate, needs to take a lot of factors into account, including the above.  I also know that I know the name Christo de Klerk either from earlier participation on this list or else the Win10 or JAWS group.

While I agree that a description would be nice, just because it might interest those not yet using something, but it is not unreasonable, in any way, to expect that someone click through to check out something.  It's a perfectly reasonable expectation.  Developing safe browsing and downloading habits for interacting with cyberspace does not extend to never clicking on any link where you don't know where it goes or you'd never go virtually anywhere.

When a site offers extensive documentation of what's there (and Nir Sofer's nirsoft.net is an excellent example) I certainly am not inclined to do anything other than offer a pointer and those who are interested should go there themselves.  In this specific case it's clear that the Mr. de Klerk uses and loves the software in question and seems to believe the reputation of Jacques Stassen may very well precede him.  I didn't know about him or his software, but clicked through to check it out.
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wish.com

 

Hello I am trying to get wish.com to read on the desktop computer

all I am seeing is a hole buynch of links with numbers any one ever used wish.com? if so how can you tell what you are3 even looking at?

Hank


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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Gene
 

I might be able to find specific examples, but instead, I'll simply point out that things aren't patched immediately.  Also, there have been instances where people go to sites with malicious third party advertising that has infected their machines.  Whether a patch is issued in a week or three isn't relevant.  Its already happened.  And this problem has been written about in major media outlets.  I saw an article in the New York times about it a few months ago. 
 
If someone is going to recommend something, they should give some idea of what it is.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your
computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major
browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.

Here's the info from the webpage that seems most important:
Program features
• Battery status on laptops is reported automatically while disconnected
from charger,  while charging, or both. The notification intervals  are
configured in the Configuration Manager. As can be expected, this
feature and associated  options  are hidden on desktop computers;
• Contact Manager, including  yearly customisable audio and text
birthday reminders for listed contacts. Alert options are either audio
and text, text only, or disabled. If set to audio and text, the audio
alert will be repeated after 15 minutes (by default), if a reminder is
not acknowledged. The interval can be changed to  half hourly, hourly,
or disabled in Configuration Manager. This module is mainly for the
benefit of users who do not have access to a smartphone, or possibly
those who prefer the flexibility and simplicity of the Stascom
alternative. The current version does not feature importing contacts
from an external file source such as csv;
• Reminder Manager with audio and text alerts, with optional repetitions
on a future date. Audio alert sound can be changed if desired. The same
customisable options as with birthday reminders, are available. See above;
• Calculate day of the week for any date between 1 January 1601 and 31
December 9999;
• Maximises application windows automatically. Window title exceptions
can be specified ;
• Prevents mute status on default sound card automatically. Recovery
volume is configurable;
• Low volume correction on default sound card (disabled by default).
Minimum and normalise levels are configurable;
• Two schedules and output percentage for automatic volume adjustment
can be specified (disabled by default);
• Password Generator, creating a unique, very strong 10 character
password with each keystroke. Generated password can be copied to
clipboard optionally;
• Time announcements on the hour,  half hour and  quarter hour.
Individual hours can be specified, or disabled altogether.  Custom audio
chimes are optional if preferred over the included sound clips;
• Accented and other special characters  can be easily inserted with hot
keys;
• Alphabetical list of 51 Windows applications and settings quickly
accesseible with a hot key;
• master volume level increased / decreased   by 5% with hot keys,
ascending / descending tones to indicate the volume adjustment;
• Word count for selected text in commonly used editors and browsers,
with an option to place the result on the Windows clipboard. This
feature is not supported in some editors and e-mail clients with
non-standard cursors. The results are more accurate than in most similar
packages, as it ignores all punctuation and special characters;
• Program configuration can be reset to installation defaults;
• Report generator, providing a summary of program settings and system
information in HTML format for easy navigation;
• Choice of three sets of modifier keys to use with Stascom hotkeys. A
bypass key suspends Stascom hotkeys for five seconds.

On 3/10/2019 1:39 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
> You know, if you're going to recommend something, you really should
> explain why you're recommending it.  Telling folks to go look it for
> themselves is kind of counterproductive.  If you're not willing to let
> folks know why you're recommending something, then in my opinion, you
> shouldn't be posting for folks to go try it out.  It's common courtesy
> to let folks know what something is when you're putting in a plug for
> others to use it.  I'm a bit irritated with folks telling us to try
> this, or download that without letting us know what it is that they want
> us to download or use.  I've been on lists where such messages
> recommending downloads without explanation as to what is being
> recommended would result in banning, because nobody has time to go
> research each and every link somebody posts just for the hell of it.
> Also, with just a link there's no way to know if the link is real or
> some sort of spam link that will fill your pc with viruses.  I find
> nothing wrong with folks asking what something is before they take the
> time to click on it, especially these days when a single click can
> infect your pc with malware or leave your pc in an unbootable state.
>
> On 3/10/2019 11:24 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
>>
>> And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There
>> shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.
>>
>> On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not
>>> to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.
>>>
>>> Regards Adrian.
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom
>>>> utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just
>>>> been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those
>>>> who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try.
>>>> You can download it from:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>
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> Virus-free. www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>
>
> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>




Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Richard Bartholomew
 

I agree on both counts, Mary...if not read it, some kind of audible alert would be very handy.

Glad it worked out for you, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 20:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband.
It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.

Good luck!
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
What am I missing here?


Mary