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Re: NVDA and APA Style

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kelly,

 

Many thanks for posting Gyles’s instructions. Yes, configuration profiles are the way to go but font and punctuation information does make for information overload.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly, Kathleen
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 7:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and APA Style

 

From Giles Turnbull:

 

when I needed to use APA style for the citations and for the
references section of my Masters assignments, I changed the
Punctuation / symbol level to All in the speech settings, and turned
Font Attributes on in the Document Formatting section.

However, I agree that it can be information overload! What I did was
to set up a profile called Formatting where those are the settings.
Then my normal configuration didn't have that level of detail but I
could turn the Formatting profile on when I did need it.

I guess that, if it's too much information even doing it that way,
then your best option would be to turn the Font Attributes on because
you'll need those to make sure that whatever needs to be bold or
itallic is bold or itallic, and then read each reference character by
character so you can hear if there are dashes and commas in the
correct places without having the Punctuation / symbol level set to
All.

A third option that might work for you is simply not to worry about
the bold and itallic aspects until you have finished the References
page. Then go through it line by line, selecting the text where it
needs to be bold or italic, and using the CTRL+b to make it bold, or
CTRL+i to make it itallic. Since NVDA says "Bold on" or "Bold off" and
"Italics on" or "Italics off", you can spend an editting session just
applying the correct formatting.

I did tell my course director that it was difficult for me, not being
able to see the formatting, and I think she told all of the tutors to
not mark me down if I didn't do the referencing section quite right :)

Giles


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Monte Single
 

Hi Ian,

 

I’ve hear of  this thing where you use an s d card or a thumb drive   to increase your p c ram.

I have it set up here on my hp 6th generation i5 with 8 gig of ddr4.

The software I  installed with the dedicated thumb drive is called “ready boost”.

I don’t know if it makes much difference,  but this machine is certainly doing all I need.

Except, when m s does another update to win10  and things get wrecked!!

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian Blackburn
Sent: May 15, 2021 7:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

If the machine has an SD card in it you can set that up to be virtual RAM years ago I did that on a secondhand laptop and it improved performance with the screen reader running are used to buy secondhand laptops from a company here in Australia but they don’t have any at the moment they were used business machines


On 16 May 2021, at 9:26 am, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:



If you use speech such as the more computer intensive synthesizers, you may use considerably more resources, I’m not sure.  but something like Eloquence or E-speak doesn’t use much resources and screen-readers, not considering synthesizers, don’t use much. 

 

I don’t know how much resources One Core voices use but I suspect Eloquence uses considerably less.  Others with more technical knowleddge may want to comment but I think the screen-reader use of computer resources is mainly a question about which synthesizer you use. 

 

I’m not recommending any computer, I don’t know enough about performance with not powerful machines to discuss it except to say that I don’t think the screen-reader needs to be considered to any extent if you use a synthesizer that isn’t demanding on resources.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:46 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the difference would be noticeable.

In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would  go for a better processor instead of more ram.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Ian Blackburn
 

If the machine has an SD card in it you can set that up to be virtual RAM years ago I did that on a secondhand laptop and it improved performance with the screen reader running are used to buy secondhand laptops from a company here in Australia but they don’t have any at the moment they were used business machines


On 16 May 2021, at 9:26 am, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


If you use speech such as the more computer intensive synthesizers, you may use considerably more resources, I’m not sure.  but something like Eloquence or E-speak doesn’t use much resources and screen-readers, not considering synthesizers, don’t use much. 
 
I don’t know how much resources One Core voices use but I suspect Eloquence uses considerably less.  Others with more technical knowleddge may want to comment but I think the screen-reader use of computer resources is mainly a question about which synthesizer you use. 
 
I’m not recommending any computer, I don’t know enough about performance with not powerful machines to discuss it except to say that I don’t think the screen-reader needs to be considered to any extent if you use a synthesizer that isn’t demanding on resources.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 

If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the difference would be noticeable.

In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would  go for a better processor instead of more ram.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Gene
 

If you use speech such as the more computer intensive synthesizers, you may use considerably more resources, I’m not sure.  but something like Eloquence or E-speak doesn’t use much resources and screen-readers, not considering synthesizers, don’t use much. 
 
I don’t know how much resources One Core voices use but I suspect Eloquence uses considerably less.  Others with more technical knowleddge may want to comment but I think the screen-reader use of computer resources is mainly a question about which synthesizer you use. 
 
I’m not recommending any computer, I don’t know enough about performance with not powerful machines to discuss it except to say that I don’t think the screen-reader needs to be considered to any extent if you use a synthesizer that isn’t demanding on resources.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 

If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the difference would be noticeable.

In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would  go for a better processor instead of more ram.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Monte Single
 

If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the difference would be noticeable.

In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would  go for a better processor instead of more ram.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

David Moore
 

I have an HP Stream! It is exactly what you want! It is small, 4 gigs of ram which is great for JAWS and many other programs, and long battery life, usually 12 hours!


On Sat, May 15, 2021, 8:20 PM Jeff Samco <jsamco@...> wrote:
I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Personally, I would not even consider running Windows 10 with less than 8 GB of RAM.  Nor would I consider a Celeron processor, for anything, these days.

I'd invest a bit more for additional memory and a better processor.  You might also consider a refurbished business-class laptop, which can be had at very reasonable prices (or at least could prior to the pandemic - everything's getting more expensive as supply is constrained).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Rui Fontes
 

Theorically, according with my experience, it will do what you want.


Of course, please do not keep many windows open at same time and do not expect great performance...


Rui


Às 01:20 de 16/05/2021, Jeff Samco escreveu:

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


NVDA running on a budget laptop

Jeff Samco
 

I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:

HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA

Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Chris Shook
 

Thanks Arlene


Re: NVDA and APA Style

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

You can avoid proofing issues by adding citations to a citation manager like Zotero, which I did.  It will automatically generate a references list in  perfect APA, all you do is to read through and modify intext citations.

On 5/13/2021 8:27 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:

Giles,

 

I am interested in your response. I need to produce  perfect documents so please post it here.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and APA Style

 

Hi Kathleen,

just to let you know, I replied to your question in the chat group because I saw it there before my main group digest arrived. I told you what I did when I needed to use APA style (I actually had the choice of APA or Chiago) when I did an MA in creative writing in the 2018/19 academic year. Let me know if you have any difficulty finding that :)

Giles


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Gene
 

I just checked.  You open the split button with alt down arrow.  When opened, you will see one action, just plain save.  You use it unopened to open save as and when opened to use just save.  When you use save, the vfile is saved with no dialog presented to give you the chance to make any changes.  The file is saved with whatever name it has.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium
 
If you can’t open a split button by right arrowing on it or down arrowing on it, use alt enter to open it as you do a combo box. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium
 
Hi.  I just tried accessing the "Downloads" interface with focus mode
enabled, and it was easier to navigate.  I still don't seem to be able to
access the other options associated with a split button like "Save as" with
ENTER or SPACE though, just the default action.  I'm extremely frustrated
because I've been back and forth with Microsoft over this.

Louise






Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Gene
 

If you can’t open a split button by right arrowing on it or down arrowing on it, use alt enter to open it as you do a combo box. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium
 
Hi.  I just tried accessing the "Downloads" interface with focus mode
enabled, and it was easier to navigate.  I still don't seem to be able to
access the other options associated with a split button like "Save as" with
ENTER or SPACE though, just the default action.  I'm extremely frustrated
because I've been back and forth with Microsoft over this.

Louise






Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Louise Pfau
 

Hi. I just tried accessing the "Downloads" interface with focus mode enabled, and it was easier to navigate. I still don't seem to be able to access the other options associated with a split button like "Save as" with ENTER or SPACE though, just the default action. I'm extremely frustrated because I've been back and forth with Microsoft over this.

Louise


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Gene
 

What kind of interface is it now?  It seems to me to be some sort of hybrid between a web interface and a dialog but that doesn’t mean that that is technically what it is.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium
 

Hi,

It used to be a web interface until a recent Edge update changed things.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium

 

Hi.  I didn't realize that focus mode had to be on to read the “Downloads” interface correctly, since I thought that it was like a web page.  Usually NVDA defaults to browse mode.

 

Thanks,

 

Louise


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Gene
 

It is like a web page but it also is something like a dialog.  And even web pages at times don’t read properly unless browse mode is off.  Combo boxes, for one example, and dialogs at times don’t read correctly. 
 
And at times, for technical reasons I don’t know, a control like a button won’t function correctly unless activated with browse mode off.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium
 
Hi.  I didn't realize that focus mode had to be on to read the “Downloads” interface correctly, since I thought that it was like a web page.  Usually NVDA defaults to browse mode.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

 

Hi,

It used to be a web interface until a recent Edge update changed things.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge Chromium

 

Hi.  I didn't realize that focus mode had to be on to read the “Downloads” interface correctly, since I thought that it was like a web page.  Usually NVDA defaults to browse mode.

 

Thanks,

 

Louise


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I didn't realize that focus mode had to be on to read the “Downloads” interface correctly, since I thought that it was like a web page.  Usually NVDA defaults to browse mode.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Following captions on youtube.

Ali Colak
 

Hello everyone,
Following a suggestion I have decided to ask this question seperately.
While NVDA is able to read the captions on some youtube videos, it
doesn't change as the captions change, it doesn't follow the streaming
of captions, such that I have to arrow up and down to find the new
captions. Is there a way to change the NVDA settings so that it
follows the stream of captions? Note, these are captions that NVDA can
read I am talking about, not the subtitles that need OCR through the
Lion addon.

Thanks a lot


Re: browse mode

Chris
 

If you mean to toggle between browse and focus modes then its NVDA + Spacebar

 

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 15 May 2021 17:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browse mode

 

Hi

 

Can you please explain to me how to turn off browse mode?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

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