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Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Gene
 

Too slow for what and what were you using for a synthesizer?  If you were using computer intensive voices as opposed to something like Eloquence or E-speak, the machine may have been unresponsive to the point of annoyance.  If you were using Eloquence or E-speak, it may not have been.  I’m not saying anything about the machine; I have no opinion of it.  But I think that if people make such comments, they should state what they used the machine for and what synthesizer they were using with which screen-reader. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 
I had this machine and threw it in the bin!   just to slow.

On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
> If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the
> difference would be noticeable.
>
> In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would 
> go for a better processor instead of more ram.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Samco
> *Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
>
> I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some
> upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web
> browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't
> know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like
> some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
>
> HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
> National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD),
> UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
>
> Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or
> should I move up to another level of processor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jeff
>
>





Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Kevin Cussick
 

I had this machine and threw it in the bin! just to slow.

On 16/05/2021 01:46, Monte Single wrote:
If you could even move up to a low end icore 3 or 5 processor,  the difference would be noticeable.
In a machine like you describe, and if I had only one choice, I would go for a better processor instead of more ram.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Samco
*Sent:* May 15, 2021 6:20 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
I am looking to purchase a second, low cost and compact laptop for some upcoming travelling. I only expect to be running NVDA, basic web browsing, email using MS Outlook and simple word processing. I don't know how much MVDA uses in terms of processing resources and would like some advice. I am considering the following laptop:
HP Stream Pro 11 G5, Celeron N4000 / 1.1 GHz, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit National Academic, 4 GB RAM, 128 GB EMMC, 11.6" Display 1366 X 768 (HD), UHD Graphics 600, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth - Kbd: US - 5VD62UT#ABA
Does anyone know if this configuration will perform well enough or should I move up to another level of processor?
Thanks for any input.
Jeff


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Monte Single
 

O k,

This crow doesn’t taste too baad.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: May 16, 2021 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Hi

It’s definitely a feature of Windows 10 and I believe it was in Windows 7 as well.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Monte Single
Sent: 16 May 2021 19:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Had a friend install it for me.

He found it on the web,,  not as part of windows any version.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Epley

Sent: May 16, 2021 8:12 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Others correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ReadyBoost" is a Microsoft Windows feature, so it's just part of Windows. As far as the trick working, however, I've tried it on two laptops, but am told they are each already running as fast as they can. Basically that "ReadyBoost" won't help performance. So, using ReadyBoost is NOT a given performance booster available to anyone and everyone. Also, sorry that all my posts have been "echoing", but for whatever strange reason, Mozilla Thunderbird has "Reply to List" ghosted, and I couldn't even get the "Reply to Group" send mail link to do a darned thing when I clicked it, so I am hoping this makes it to the list, though it's doing so without quoting the original message given the crazy way I had to trigger any reply whatsoever.

 

-Greg Epley

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

To be honest, its near to impossible to get a newer unit with a duel drive system.

I got one of the last ones before covid and to be honest I am unsure where I will go when I eventually need to.


The most you can get is 512gb ssd  storage.

Thats fine but what I really want to avoid is carrying round hdds all over the show.

I can pay for a sync storage online but when on the go the net will not be fully available and anyway, I like physical cds, storage drives as well as digital.

8gb ram is really minimum.

It all depends on what you want in power these days.

Unless you really need to do things like virtual machines or testing of development stuff, almost anything will do.

Look for something at least 6th generation intel to about 7th gen, be aware that 8th gen and others may have speed issues due to all the security put in to get round specter and other stuff the 8tyh generation was most effected.

I don't see any reason to get any higher than the ryzen 5 2nd gen I allready have though.

I have family that can't afford much running of a high grade 3rd gen and that suits them just fine for what they do.

The fact is with covid and shortages all these twin systems just stopped overnight even gaming units.

Lenovo may be your best bet though they have changed their customisation pages so who knows.

I'd stop short of dell but yeah.

The other way you may want to go is run a budget something for the basics and something else for others.

I know for 1400 bucks I can get a desktop with the latest everything and more storage than I'd know what to do with but still.

You may want to search ebay or other sites and get something will work.

I am currently working with a client desperate to update their systems and needing spaciffic needs, a 1tb hard drive or ssd being one of them.

They don't have that much cash and its hard to get 1tb ssds anyway in units and duel drives on modern up to date systems are well just forget it.

On the other hand, if you ever see a hp db1018 or 1049 unit about with the duel drives, that may be your ticket out.

There is the 17qa which did have at one stage a hard drive.

Finally there is the pav power box with 7th gen processer but all of these are old.

Some places may still have pavilian ce units but these may be a dieing breed.

Some units may have duel drive support but who knows.

Point is I suspect with all the chip shortages laptops= business only.

Yeah budget can be a problem.

If you really can afford 300-400 bucks, then you may be getting better value buying a used or x lease product  which has the ability.

Unsure what I will do when I really need another box.

For all its worth the system I currently have now has come on holiday with me and several other things and is lite and easy to control.

Bar a few issues early on its going strongly.

If you are going for something really old though, an a10 or 12 amd is fine but I'd try to get something 2017 or 2018 make if its amd because in 2016 the hd class video cards got stopped due to newer chips support.

I can only wish you luck in this.

On 17/05/2021 6:52 am, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I've had a number of techs look at my laptop over the last couple
months. They've all recommended I get some combination of a new
machine with a faster processor, more ram, or an SSD, but I've had
very little to complain about with this machine as currently
configured. Sometimes, there are instances where I open a large number
of windows in my web browser, and the number of windows I can open was
significantly smaller on this machine with Windows 10, 4 GB of ram and
an Intel I3 than on my previous laptop with an Intel I5 and Windows 7
with the same specs. The number of windows I can open at a time has
decreased even more since I switched from IE to Firefox.

On 5/16/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 02:21 AM, Jeff Samco wrote:

to be confident the laptop won't frustrate me.
-
And right there is the key point. One can definitely use a "less finely
specced" machine than one's home workhorse when all it's meant for is light
duty emailing, web browsing, word processing, and even streaming, but even
when something with really minimum spec works (and I have an ancient Gateway
with 4GB and old Intel processor that does), "works" is often not enough to
make one feel OK while using it.

You still want the speed and responsiveness you're used to on your regular
machine, but just for lighter loads. With Windows 10, it's almost certain
that you will not have that experience with under 8GB of RAM, and you
absolutely won't if you've got less than that with a really old processor
and a conventional HDD. SSDs can and do gain you a lot of zippy-ness when
it comes to tasks that are disk I/O intensive. Boot times shrink
incredibly. But for stuff that's not disk I/O intensive, and the intended
uses aren't, your throttling point is typically from the combination of
processing power and RAM, which are intimately related in that a poor
processor with lots of RAM could, in theory, work better than a mediocre (or
good) processor with insufficient RAM.

Windows 10, and all modern OSes, are now built to absolutely maximize their
exploitation of available RAM to make faster performance (from the user
perspective, anyway) happen.

I've never owned anything near to a "flagship machine" myself, because I
don't have the need for that kind of processing power or speed. I have, at
times past, had to get "the cheapest thing possible" so I've lived with
these long term, and it wasn't fun.

Often even small increases in price on the lower end of the market get you
some pretty substantial performance boosts.

In the end, I'm really not telling anyone what they should buy, because I
can't know that. Only the individual making the choice knows what is
"minimally acceptable" to them. But I am trying to identify factors to
consider. You have to make the choice in the end, and what's right for me,
or any random someone else, may not be right for you.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless
you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon







.


Re: NVDA and APA Style

 

Hi,

I was about to suggest creating a custom profile just for citation review. Until recently it wasn’t possible to create a dedicated shortcut to activate a manual configuration profile (you can do this now), which I think might be the next best thing while using citation software.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 10:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and APA Style

 

I don’t use the citation system being discussed but would it be useful to move with the arrow keys and hear such information character by character?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: tim

Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and APA Style

 

Trying slowing down your speech output.

On 5/16/2021 10:28 AM, Kelly, Kathleen wrote:

Thank you, however, I am struggling with the auditory overload of NVDA reading all the characters. I cannot process all the information.


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Hi,

ReadyBoost (introduced with Windows Vista) acts as a fast cache stored on external drives (usually flash drives). It mostly benefits systems equipped with mechanical hard disks as their response times are not that great compared to SSD’s. These days, ReadyBoost lost much of its merit thanks to widespread use of SSD’s and optimizations made by operating system vendors such as Microsoft to tune their systems to make better use of SSD’s.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Here is an interesting article about Ready Boost.  I don’t know what you had installed but it is a part of Windows.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Had a friend install it for me.
He found it on the web,,  not as part of windows any version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Epley
Sent: May 16, 2021 8:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

Others correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ReadyBoost" is a Microsoft Windows feature, so it's just part of Windows. As far as the trick working, however, I've tried it on two laptops, but am told they are each already running as fast as they can. Basically that "ReadyBoost" won't help performance. So, using ReadyBoost is NOT a given performance booster available to anyone and everyone. Also, sorry that all my posts have been "echoing", but for whatever strange reason, Mozilla Thunderbird has "Reply to List" ghosted, and I couldn't even get the "Reply to Group" send mail link to do a darned thing when I clicked it, so I am hoping this makes it to the list, though it's doing so without quoting the original message given the crazy way I had to trigger any reply whatsoever.

-Greg Epley











Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

It’s definitely a feature of Windows 10 and I believe it was in Windows 7 as well.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Monte Single
Sent: 16 May 2021 19:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Had a friend install it for me.

He found it on the web,,  not as part of windows any version.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Epley

Sent: May 16, 2021 8:12 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

 

Others correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ReadyBoost" is a Microsoft Windows feature, so it's just part of Windows. As far as the trick working, however, I've tried it on two laptops, but am told they are each already running as fast as they can. Basically that "ReadyBoost" won't help performance. So, using ReadyBoost is NOT a given performance booster available to anyone and everyone. Also, sorry that all my posts have been "echoing", but for whatever strange reason, Mozilla Thunderbird has "Reply to List" ghosted, and I couldn't even get the "Reply to Group" send mail link to do a darned thing when I clicked it, so I am hoping this makes it to the list, though it's doing so without quoting the original message given the crazy way I had to trigger any reply whatsoever.

 

-Greg Epley

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

I've had a number of techs look at my laptop over the last couple
months. They've all recommended I get some combination of a new
machine with a faster processor, more ram, or an SSD, but I've had
very little to complain about with this machine as currently
configured. Sometimes, there are instances where I open a large number
of windows in my web browser, and the number of windows I can open was
significantly smaller on this machine with Windows 10, 4 GB of ram and
an Intel I3 than on my previous laptop with an Intel I5 and Windows 7
with the same specs. The number of windows I can open at a time has
decreased even more since I switched from IE to Firefox.

On 5/16/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 02:21 AM, Jeff Samco wrote:


to be confident the laptop won't frustrate me.
-
And right there is the key point. One can definitely use a "less finely
specced" machine than one's home workhorse when all it's meant for is light
duty emailing, web browsing, word processing, and even streaming, but even
when something with really minimum spec works (and I have an ancient Gateway
with 4GB and old Intel processor that does), "works" is often not enough to
make one feel OK while using it.

You still want the speed and responsiveness you're used to on your regular
machine, but just for lighter loads. With Windows 10, it's almost certain
that you will not have that experience with under 8GB of RAM, and you
absolutely won't if you've got less than that with a really old processor
and a conventional HDD. SSDs can and do gain you a lot of zippy-ness when
it comes to tasks that are disk I/O intensive. Boot times shrink
incredibly. But for stuff that's not disk I/O intensive, and the intended
uses aren't, your throttling point is typically from the combination of
processing power and RAM, which are intimately related in that a poor
processor with lots of RAM could, in theory, work better than a mediocre (or
good) processor with insufficient RAM.

Windows 10, and all modern OSes, are now built to absolutely maximize their
exploitation of available RAM to make faster performance (from the user
perspective, anyway) happen.

I've never owned anything near to a "flagship machine" myself, because I
don't have the need for that kind of processing power or speed. I have, at
times past, had to get "the cheapest thing possible" so I've lived with
these long term, and it wasn't fun.

Often even small increases in price on the lower end of the market get you
some pretty substantial performance boosts.

In the end, I'm really not telling anyone what they should buy, because I
can't know that. Only the individual making the choice knows what is
"minimally acceptable" to them. But I am trying to identify factors to
consider. You have to make the choice in the end, and what's right for me,
or any random someone else, may not be right for you.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless
you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon






Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Gene
 

Here is an interesting article about Ready Boost.  I don’t know what you had installed but it is a part of Windows.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 
Had a friend install it for me.
He found it on the web,,  not as part of windows any version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Epley
Sent: May 16, 2021 8:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

Others correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ReadyBoost" is a Microsoft Windows feature, so it's just part of Windows. As far as the trick working, however, I've tried it on two laptops, but am told they are each already running as fast as they can. Basically that "ReadyBoost" won't help performance. So, using ReadyBoost is NOT a given performance booster available to anyone and everyone. Also, sorry that all my posts have been "echoing", but for whatever strange reason, Mozilla Thunderbird has "Reply to List" ghosted, and I couldn't even get the "Reply to Group" send mail link to do a darned thing when I clicked it, so I am hoping this makes it to the list, though it's doing so without quoting the original message given the crazy way I had to trigger any reply whatsoever.

-Greg Epley












Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Monte Single
 

Had a friend install it for me.
He found it on the web,, not as part of windows any version.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Epley
Sent: May 16, 2021 8:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop

Others correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ReadyBoost" is a Microsoft Windows feature, so it's just part of Windows. As far as the trick working, however, I've tried it on two laptops, but am told they are each already running as fast as they can. Basically that "ReadyBoost" won't help performance. So, using ReadyBoost is NOT a given performance booster available to anyone and everyone. Also, sorry that all my posts have been "echoing", but for whatever strange reason, Mozilla Thunderbird has "Reply to List" ghosted, and I couldn't even get the "Reply to Group" send mail link to do a darned thing when I clicked it, so I am hoping this makes it to the list, though it's doing so without quoting the original message given the crazy way I had to trigger any reply whatsoever.

-Greg Epley


Re: Windows 10 ocr & nvda

Chris
 

I dont think you really need the add-on in win10, as NVDA + R should work, then use the arrow up/down keys to read the result

 

 

 

> Às 15:51 de 16/05/2021, Michael Maslo escreveu:

>> Hello everyone, I was wondering if someone would be able to explain on how to use the windows 10 ocr add on? I installed it and hit the insert plus r. It said it was performing the o c r. And then it said it was done when I tried to read the results, I couldn't. Can someone explain in how to use this please?

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Michael maslo

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Michael maslo

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA and APA Style

Gene
 

I don’t use the citation system being discussed but would it be useful to move with the arrow keys and hear such information character by character?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: tim
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and APA Style
 

Trying slowing down your speech output.

On 5/16/2021 10:28 AM, Kelly, Kathleen wrote:
Thank you, however, I am struggling with the auditory overload of NVDA reading all the characters. I cannot process all the information.


Re: [Solved] office 2019 and outlook

Gene
 

I seem to recall reading something about that some time ago.  But in this case, it sounds as though an Office Update is causing the problem since the person has been using autocomplete until recently.  From the way the question is written, the same program is evidently being used.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] office 2019 and outlook
 
Gene,

           This has been coming up again and again on several groups as people are getting new machines or setting up completely fresh copies of Office.

            Outlook does not use your Contacts for autocomplete, but a list it compiles as you send e-mail messages out.  Autocomplete often contains addresses not in your Contacts.  I talked about this briefly (as do the articles referenced) on the JAWS Group here: https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/88876 

             When you have a brand-spankin' new installation of Outlook there is no existing autocomplete list unless you've taken the time to have exported it prior to the new install, and going through the steps to import that data into the new install.  This is also talked about in the articles I reference in the message above.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA and APA Style

Sandra Pilz
 

What kind of overload are you trying to minimise?  Is it when you read and reread your paper to edit the text, or is it when you edit the bibliography?


I think using reference software could help with both. I like to use a citation style that creates less verbeage when the text is read back to me. When I am done writing, I can simply change the citation style to whatever I need, for example APA. The Software will then change the in-line citations to the required format. Finally, I have it insert my bibliography at the end of my document. Of course, I still have to check the bibliography and at this point, you might feel there is overload again. I am not sure how you could minimise it at this point.


Also, if your paper is nearly done, it is not really feasible to start using reference software now. But maybe you might try it for your next paper.


Regards


Sandra

Am 16.05.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Kelly, Kathleen:

Thank you, however, I am struggling with the auditory overload of NVDA reading all the characters. I cannot process all the information. 


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

tim
 

Ben running computers for over 30 years and never heard of genI5/r5?

Now the 8gb of ram is best to stop slugishness, I 3 or 5 with no less then 128emc drive will keep you running a long time with no problem.

here is one to stay away from any notebook with less then 128gb emc drive. I have worked on a bunch with 32 and 64 and windows really don't like these small drives. I either put linux or chrome os on them for max power.

You can get a real good referb for under $300 and under with good specs.





On 5/16/2021 8:20 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

I would do a minimum of 8gb of ram, and a current gen i5/r5. That is as low as you should go. Even with those specs, NVDA is heavy on CPU usage.

On 5/15/2021 7:36 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Personally, I would not even consider running Windows 10 with less than 8 GB of RAM.  Nor would I consider a Celeron processor, for anything, these days.

I'd invest a bit more for additional memory and a better processor.  You might also consider a refurbished business-class laptop, which can be had at very reasonable prices (or at least could prior to the pandemic - everything's getting more expensive as supply is constrained).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA and APA Style

tim
 

Trying slowing down your speech output.

On 5/16/2021 10:28 AM, Kelly, Kathleen wrote:
Thank you, however, I am struggling with the auditory overload of NVDA reading all the characters. I cannot process all the information. 


Re: [Solved] office 2019 and outlook

Jackie
 

& if I'm not mistaken (& I could well be, it happens w/some degree of
regularity), some of the privacy settings can also affect whether
addresses are auto-completed.

On 5/16/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Gene,

This has been coming up again and again on several groups as people are
getting new machines or setting up completely fresh copies of Office.

Outlook does not use your Contacts for autocomplete, but a list it compiles
as you send e-mail messages out.  Autocomplete often contains addresses not
in your Contacts.  I talked about this briefly (as do the articles
referenced) on the JAWS Group here:
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/88876

When you have a brand-spankin' new installation of Outlook there is no
existing autocomplete list unless you've taken the time to have exported it
prior to the new install, and going through the steps to import that data
into the new install.  This is also talked about in the articles I reference
in the message above.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless
you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon





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Re: [Solved] office 2019 and outlook

 

Gene,

           This has been coming up again and again on several groups as people are getting new machines or setting up completely fresh copies of Office.

            Outlook does not use your Contacts for autocomplete, but a list it compiles as you send e-mail messages out.  Autocomplete often contains addresses not in your Contacts.  I talked about this briefly (as do the articles referenced) on the JAWS Group here: https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/88876 

             When you have a brand-spankin' new installation of Outlook there is no existing autocomplete list unless you've taken the time to have exported it prior to the new install, and going through the steps to import that data into the new install.  This is also talked about in the articles I reference in the message above.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA running on a budget laptop

Gene
 

Nothing I’ve seen convinces me that NVDA itself uses a lot of computing power.  nor have I seen this with screen-readers in general to the small extent I’ve checked.  Its using the newer synthesizers that uses a lot of computing ;power.  If you want to use the newer voices, I can’t comment on the minimum specifications to get good performance but in the old days, I had machines that today would be laughably underpowered, running Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 and Via Voice, very similar to Eloquence, ran well.  This was in a 166MHZ, not GHZ, Pentium machine and in an even older and less powerful machine running Windows 3.1. 
 
As for NVDA using a lot of computing power, if I monitor use when I’m typing text with carachter echo on in the Windows Task manager, I get low numbers.  I just checked and while moving up and down the list in task manager, then pressing f5 to refresh the screen, I get a 6 percent CPU reading.  When typing in this e-mail message, alt tabbing immediately to the task manager and refreshing the screen, I get a 10 percent usage reading.
 
I’m not saying there won’t be variations, but those figures are close to what I generally get when I test doing these things.
 
And I haven’t seen complaints about the performance of NVDA from people using tablets. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA running on a budget laptop
 

I would do a minimum of 8gb of ram, and a current gen i5/r5. That is as low as you should go. Even with those specs, NVDA is heavy on CPU usage.

On 5/15/2021 7:36 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Personally, I would not even consider running Windows 10 with less than 8 GB of RAM.  Nor would I consider a Celeron processor, for anything, these days.

I'd invest a bit more for additional memory and a better processor.  You might also consider a refurbished business-class laptop, which can be had at very reasonable prices (or at least could prior to the pandemic - everything's getting more expensive as supply is constrained).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: [Solved] office 2019 and outlook

Gene
 

I’m not sure what may be causing the problem.  Someone else may have suggestions.  I may be wrong, but I vaguely seem to remember this being asked about on a list I follow.  If you can’t resolve the problem, there may be a work around that works as well or almost as well. 
 
Windows Live Mail has a search contacts function.  While it may not be the case, if Windows Live Mail has it, Outlook likely does.  this might solve your problem. 
I generally type the first name of the contact I’m looking for and I usually find it efficiently that way.
 
Gene

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Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 6:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] office 2019 and outlook
 

Hi

Using the latest nvda and windows 10 pro

Lately if I create a new email.

I type in the email address.  Nvda tells me use your up and down keys to get  contact sugestions, but it gives me no emails addresses.

GBut it is there.  Any help will be greatful.

Thanks

Timothy

 

 

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