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On 21 Oct 2020, at 9:25, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Subject says it all.

After all the bad bugs and other messages on the support readit, you'd think waterfox would fix their broken brouser in classic mode but I guess not.

Decided even though changes stated that there were only security updates this round, decided to try the program again.

As soon as I loaded one of my slower loading forums, waterfox froze and nvda had a garbage deleted objects issue where both stacks froze and I had emence trouble getting speech back, let alone narator to work in that state.

I have returned to 08.

Rumor seems to be that they seem to be putting all energies in their 3rd gen engine.

However of more concern is the fact they don't seem to be pulling current performance updates from firefox.

Technically I can stay on 08 for the rest of my life without an issue.

My add and script blockers are probably good enough and I don't leave my brouser open but still for a program with so much prommice its something really stupid and weird going on with this thing.

If there was a way to use classic accessability menus and not fiddle round with the modern  and wacky interface for all the extra addons and such in firefox, I'd switch to that.

Point is I like the classic uncluttered interface but if this continues to break, I may just have to stay here.

Its a pitty  that 2020.08 will be the last working version of waterfox classic for me, but it doesn't seem they are really improving the brouser much.

I'd probably make a fuss on github but I have other things to bother about, the brouser aint one of them and I don't intend it to be.

I am just slightly put off at all this goings on.

I was hoping that things would be better.

Maybe they are but right now I can't use a program that can generate interaction errors and take my reader with it pluss other things.

To be honest if I could find another classic firefox brouser that works without the drama going on or a classic chrome interfaced brouser or simply a simple classic brouser I may switch.

But some shops on chrome and others seem to be missing out decimal points in prices and I can't find a solution to have these read right and know waterfox handles it ok.

Hello,

I hope the moderator will excuse this slightly off-topic message.
I want to improve the Orca screenreader for Linux by exporting NVDA features to it. Some have already been exported. I wish to continue this work.
If you are also interested please contact me offlist at
John.boyer@abilitiessoft.org

Thanks,
John

Subject says it all.

After all the bad bugs and other messages on the support readit, you'd think waterfox would fix their broken brouser in classic mode but I guess not.

Decided even though changes stated that there were only security updates this round, decided to try the program again.

As soon as I loaded one of my slower loading forums, waterfox froze and nvda had a garbage deleted objects issue where both stacks froze and I had emence trouble getting speech back, let alone narator to work in that state.

I have returned to 08.

Rumor seems to be that they seem to be putting all energies in their 3rd gen engine.

However of more concern is the fact they don't seem to be pulling current performance updates from firefox.

Technically I can stay on 08 for the rest of my life without an issue.

My add and script blockers are probably good enough and I don't leave my brouser open but still for a program with so much prommice its something really stupid and weird going on with this thing.

If there was a way to use classic accessability menus and not fiddle round with the modern  and wacky interface for all the extra addons and such in firefox, I'd switch to that.

Point is I like the classic uncluttered interface but if this continues to break, I may just have to stay here.

Its a pitty  that 2020.08 will be the last working version of waterfox classic for me, but it doesn't seem they are really improving the brouser much.

I'd probably make a fuss on github but I have other things to bother about, the brouser aint one of them and I don't intend it to be.

I am just slightly put off at all this goings on.

I was hoping that things would be better.

Maybe they are but right now I can't use a program that can generate interaction errors and take my reader with it pluss other things.

To be honest if I could find another classic firefox brouser that works without the drama going on or a classic chrome interfaced brouser or simply a simple classic brouser I may switch.

But some shops on chrome and others seem to be missing out decimal points in prices and I can't find a solution to have these read right and know waterfox handles it ok.

here is the link for the latest version of lion live OCR. 
https://blindieconnect.net/files/lion-latest.nvda-addon

What ones?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Exporting NVDA features to Orca

Hello,

I hope the moderator will excuse this slightly off-topic message.
I want to improve the Orca screenreader for Linux by exporting NVDA features
to it. Some have already been exported. I wish to continue this work.
If you are also interested please contact me offlist at
John.boyer@abilitiessoft.org

Thanks,
John

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Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost

Well, my copy of the Eloquence/Vocalizer voices allows for two versions, embedded pro, which is smaller in size, and embedded high. The embedded pro voices sound a bit like the compact voices. Are they actually different from those voices?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/21/2020 4:51 AM, Socheat Muth wrote:

Hmm. Can't see them listed here. Maybe I'm missing something. Only the premium and premium high are listed.

On 10/21/2020 10:45 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Actually, the Eloquence/Vocalizer NVDA voices from Code Factory are supplied with both the compact as well as the higher quality Vocalizer voices.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/20/2020 11:29 PM, Socheat Muth wrote:

It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:

It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer  compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices.  To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static.  I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted.  I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5.  However, he isn't my
favorite voice.  He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own.  Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

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-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

Hmm. Can't see them listed here. Maybe I'm missing something. Only the premium and premium high are listed.

On 10/21/2020 10:45 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Actually, the Eloquence/Vocalizer NVDA voices from Code Factory are supplied with both the compact as well as the higher quality Vocalizer voices.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/20/2020 11:29 PM, Socheat Muth wrote:

It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:

It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer  compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices.  To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static.  I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted.  I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5.  However, he isn't my
favorite voice.  He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own.  Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

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-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson