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microsoft team with NVDA screen reader

anthony borg
 

Hello

 

Does anyone use Microsoft Team with NVDA screen reader please? If so can you contact me of list.

Anthonyborg001@...

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: Is There a Memory Leak when NVDA Works with FireFox?

 

Well have wandered with waterfox on my amd to.

Version 2020.08 works but is the last version to work even at a reduced rate with the cpu fan and such, after that websites like hp.com don't render right and resilio sync doesn't render right either.

A lot of extra crashes go on to though waterfox has gotten more unstable in recent times, but I just like the layout so I stick with this older version.

On 6/03/2021 8:26 pm, Luke Davis wrote:
A few things of note.

1. Yes, I've seen this, although not generally on the last five or so major versions of Firefox.

2. I keep a shortcut on my desktop which calls taskkill on firefox.exe, and has a keyboard shortcut (control+alt+k), for just such circumstances.

3. When this has happened on my laptops, I would start to notice the fan speeding up to maximum, and then never slowing back down. The machine would become nearly unusable. This would only happen on certain websites. Getresponse.com was one, but I believe I also observed it, at least to a partial extent, on Facebook, though I don't use Facebook web enough to be sure.

4. This problem, under various descriptions, has been reported here before, and may even have some Github issues about it, although I don't have time to research whether that's true right now.

5. While I don't know if this is related, I can say that I experienced this at its worst, on AMD processors. My Intel machine seemed a bit more resilient with it, or it never got as all-consuming as it was with the AMDs. But I have no idea if that is indicative, or just a usage pattern difference.

I know of no solution to this other than to assassinate the fox when it happens. I also don't know if it is strictly an NVDA thing, or if other screen readers experience it as well.

Luke




Re: Is There a Memory Leak when NVDA Works with FireFox?

Luke Davis
 

A few things of note.

1. Yes, I've seen this, although not generally on the last five or so major versions of Firefox.

2. I keep a shortcut on my desktop which calls taskkill on firefox.exe, and has a keyboard shortcut (control+alt+k), for just such circumstances.

3. When this has happened on my laptops, I would start to notice the fan speeding up to maximum, and then never slowing back down. The machine would become nearly unusable. This would only happen on certain websites. Getresponse.com was one, but I believe I also observed it, at least to a partial extent, on Facebook, though I don't use Facebook web enough to be sure.

4. This problem, under various descriptions, has been reported here before, and may even have some Github issues about it, although I don't have time to research whether that's true right now.

5. While I don't know if this is related, I can say that I experienced this at its worst, on AMD processors. My Intel machine seemed a bit more resilient with it, or it never got as all-consuming as it was with the AMDs. But I have no idea if that is indicative, or just a usage pattern difference.

I know of no solution to this other than to assassinate the fox when it happens. I also don't know if it is strictly an NVDA thing, or if other screen readers experience it as well.

Luke


Is There a Memory Leak when NVDA Works with FireFox?

Dzhovani
 

Hi all,

I've had this issue for some time, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it so I decided to ask if I'm the only one having it.

If I keep firefox opened for sufficiently long time, NVDA hangs and gets unresponsive. Restarting NVDA does not help, while killing the firefox process from task manager immediately unlocks nvda. I don't use chrome based browsers enough to observe if it is the same there as well.

Versions of NVDA and FireFox are the latest.

Some usage patterns that might be related are that I'm usually keeping messenger opened in a private window. I think that the hanging got some more frequent since Facebook banned messaging from their mobile website. Since then the hanging happen around once in a day instead of once in a few days.

Regards,

Dzhovani


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  You might look into Avaya which is a soft phone that has been used for many years.  Marriott had someone write scripts to work with Jaws.  I used it more than 10 years.  I'm sure there is a cost for it.  Considering it's been that long ago, I couldn't tell you what the cost would be.  Good luck.

Dave


On 3/1/2021 12:14 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


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Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: punctuation level

 

See also a topic I started in December 2020, Configuration Profiles and Triggers, for more generic information and a discussion of the Say All profile.
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Re: punctuation level

 

Using NVDA Configuration Profile | Sao Mai Center for the ...

Even though the article discusses using a Vietnamese voice, and Firefox, the principles are exactly applicable to creating the same for an English voice and any other application.

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punctuation level

Don H
 

I have my punctuation level set to some.
However when I start something like Notepad I would like my punctuation level to be all. Is there a way to do this automatically?


Re: NVDA 2021.1

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes, it's being worked on.  We don't know the release date yet.

(Sorry Brian, couldn't resist)

Rest assured as soon as the first beta for 2021.1 comes out, we'll post about it here, on our website, and on twitter in the first instance.  It will then be in the next In-Process blog as well.

A couple of other things you can do:
- If you are technically inclined and would like to test even earlier pre-release versions, you'll find those on our snapshots page: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

- If you have a particular bug you are very keen to see resolved, do check https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and ensure it has been reported (we can't fix something we don't know about!).  If it has been reported, ensure you are logged in and you should find a "Subscribe" button on the page for the individual issue.  Subscribing ensures you are notified about future comments or movement on that issue (including when it gets closed or merged).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:08 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
This is not aimed at Sky Mundell, but at these, "When is the next version?," questions that pop up very shortly after each and every new version hits the street.

In any software development, unless the organization is shutting down (and NV Access is not), development for the next version has begun well before the most recently released version hits the streets.  Release schedules would be ridiculously long were work not progressing on several releases at once.

But even if the above were not true, NV Access representatives have, consistently, for years now, announced when initial beta versions as well as release candidates for the next version become available.  While "rough guesstimates" may occasionally be made about scheduled release date, it's well known that's all they are.  The next release will, quite literally, get here when it gets here.

If you watch this space for the announcement of the availability of the initial beta of the next release, no matter what that release number is, has become available you will have quite ample warning that the new release is coming soon and will also have the opportunity to test it if you so choose.

Asking ahead of announcement will get you an answer that's pretty much, "Yes, it's being worked on.  We don't know the release date yet."

So as moderator I'm asking that these questions just not be asked, as they're clutter.  Watch this space and announcements of upcoming releases will be made by the very entity that's releasing them as they deem such announcements pertinent.
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Re: NVDA 2021.1

Sky Mundell
 

OK

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 4, 2021 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1

 

This is not aimed at Sky Mundell, but at these, "When is the next version?," questions that pop up very shortly after each and every new version hits the street.

In any software development, unless the organization is shutting down (and NV Access is not), development for the next version has begun well before the most recently released version hits the streets.  Release schedules would be ridiculously long were work not progressing on several releases at once.

But even if the above were not true, NV Access representatives have, consistently, for years now, announced when initial beta versions as well as release candidates for the next version become available.  While "rough guesstimates" may occasionally be made about scheduled release date, it's well known that's all they are.  The next release will, quite literally, get here when it gets here.

If you watch this space for the announcement of the availability of the initial beta of the next release, no matter what that release number is, has become available you will have quite ample warning that the new release is coming soon and will also have the opportunity to test it if you so choose.

Asking ahead of announcement will get you an answer that's pretty much, "Yes, it's being worked on.  We don't know the release date yet."

So as moderator I'm asking that these questions just not be asked, as they're clutter.  Watch this space and announcements of upcoming releases will be made by the very entity that's releasing them as they deem such announcements pertinent.
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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1

 

This is not aimed at Sky Mundell, but at these, "When is the next version?," questions that pop up very shortly after each and every new version hits the street.

In any software development, unless the organization is shutting down (and NV Access is not), development for the next version has begun well before the most recently released version hits the streets.  Release schedules would be ridiculously long were work not progressing on several releases at once.

But even if the above were not true, NV Access representatives have, consistently, for years now, announced when initial beta versions as well as release candidates for the next version become available.  While "rough guesstimates" may occasionally be made about scheduled release date, it's well known that's all they are.  The next release will, quite literally, get here when it gets here.

If you watch this space for the announcement of the availability of the initial beta of the next release, no matter what that release number is, has become available you will have quite ample warning that the new release is coming soon and will also have the opportunity to test it if you so choose.

Asking ahead of announcement will get you an answer that's pretty much, "Yes, it's being worked on.  We don't know the release date yet."

So as moderator I'm asking that these questions just not be asked, as they're clutter.  Watch this space and announcements of upcoming releases will be made by the very entity that's releasing them as they deem such announcements pertinent.
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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1

 

Hi,
Yes indeed. The biggest area of research at the moment is Python 3.8
compatibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1

Hello list. Now that NVDA 2020.4 has been released, what is the current
status on NVDA 2021.1? Is it being worked on? Thanks, Sky.


NVDA 2021.1

Sky Mundell
 

Hello list. Now that NVDA 2020.4 has been released, what is the current
status on NVDA 2021.1? Is it being worked on? Thanks, Sky.


Re: Moving down in a console

nicolas.vespoli
 

Hi, try pressing numpad 9.


Moving down in a console

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

Suppose I have a cmd console and I do a dir to get a list of files. I can press numpad 7 to go to the top. Now I would like to read the next line down.
Pressing the advance button on my Braille display doesn't do it. What is the keystroke that does?

Thanks,
John

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Re: a possible problem with combo boxes and latest NVDA

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 12:58 PM, Jonathan COHN wrote:
In summary, if Kroger Web developers slightly change the behaviors of their dropdown it will be a lot easier for keyboard only and screen reader users to use it.
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And I thank you for this contribution because it is a direct example of the more general situation where exactly how a web page is coded can have accessibility ramifications that differ between browsers and/or screen readers.

For combo boxes, you'd think that by now there would be The One, True Way of coding them, but there isn't.  And the newer a web object is, and they keep being invented, the less likely it is that any de facto standard for coding exists and different screen readers make different guesses the best they can.

That's why having a secondary screen reader that you're basically familiar with really is a vital tool in the toolbox.  You don't have to be able to be as proficient with all aspects as you are with your favorite one, but knowing how to navigate a webpage doesn't entail that level of proficiency, and can sometimes get you out of a jam.
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Re: a possible problem with combo boxes and latest NVDA

Jonathan COHN
 

This is a fairly common issue with folks that don't understand accessibility implications. They have coded the dropdown to perform actions when selection changes. Both JAWS and NVDA along with the browser developers created the alt-down keystroke that opens the list of choices, but doesn't actually "select" any of them until the list is closed again. I have forgotten what the proper event is to use to process the combo box it might be "onChange". 
In summary, if Kroger Web developers slightly change the behaviors of their dropdown it will be a lot easier for keyboard only and screen reader users to use it. On the other hand, the Auto Fill for Chrome and Firefox can often handle selecting the correct state for you in their autofill features.


Jonathan Cohn

On Mar 3, 2021, at 12:08, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Ok, it looks like pressing alt+down arrow opens the combo box and I can move through it using either the cursor or first letter navigation.  I am certain I tried this before but it works now.


If I use either of the other methods it still hoses up though.  This is sure weird.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 3/3/2021 11:05 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Have you tried Alt+Down arrow when you've reached the combo box, then pressing Enter on your desired option? Try that and report back.
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Re: a possible problem with combo boxes and latest NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Ok, it looks like pressing alt+down arrow opens the combo box and I can move through it using either the cursor or first letter navigation.  I am certain I tried this before but it works now.


If I use either of the other methods it still hoses up though.  This is sure weird.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 3/3/2021 11:05 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Have you tried Alt+Down arrow when you've reached the combo box, then pressing Enter on your desired option? Try that and report back.
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Re: a possible problem with combo boxes and latest NVDA

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Have you tried Alt+Down arrow when you've reached the combo box, then pressing Enter on your desired option? Try that and report back.


Re: a possible problem with combo boxes and latest NVDA

 

I can't tell you what the root cause of the issue is, but I'm not having it, provided I arrow in to the combo box options after expanding before I use first letter nav.

In the case of the states listed, once I've arrowed in, using the letter K in that combo box keeps bouncing me between KS and KY.

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