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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,


The techie that took my friend's computer to supposedly fix it did it out of his ownhome. He kept it for over a year and when my friend tried to call him to ask about the computer, he never returned her calls. I've heard of dishonesty but this takes the cake! Now she's having trouble with it again. She has to redownload NVDA so I think there's something wrong with the computer itself.


Rosemarie

On 10/17/2020 6:26 AM, Gene wrote:
And repair places often update programs that shouldn't be updated because the new versions aren't accessible.  If a machine is taken into a repair place, perhaps an agreement, perhaps in writing, should be made that no changes, except those necessary to repair, including disinfect, a computer will be made without the approval of the owner.

I have no idea if repair places will accept such agreements but I pose the topic for discussion.

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Leslie
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now



One time I took my computer to Geek Squad and they messed one of my computers up royally too.  My computer went through two other parties before it was fixed.  That computer spent its entire life with me and I got another computer and some left over voices were loaded onto a brand new computer.  I just removed them recently. Repair places can really mess up computers when they don’t understand screen reader software.



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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now





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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.10.2 released, a few notices about add-on development for the next few weeks #addonrelease

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, Hettie wrote:

Is Windows 10 App Essentials  a windows or nvda app?
Neither. It is an NVDA add-on. Press Insert+n, t, and go down to "manage add-ons" and press enter. That will allow you to install add-ons into NVDA. You can press Alt+G to open a web page where you can find add-ons. Move to Windows 10 App Essentials, press enter, move to the "stable version" link, and select that.

> Is it essential to use it with windows 10??

Windows 10 will be more accessible and much more pleasant to use if you do use the add-on. You can use NVDA in Windows 10 without it, but I can't think of a good reason not to use Win 10 App Essentials, and many good reasons why you should use it.

Does it automatically come with either windows 10 or nvda?
No. See above.

Luke
Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.10.2 released, a few notices about add-on development for the next few weeks #addonrelease

Hettie
 

Hi all

Is Windows 10 App Essentials  a windows or nvda app?

Is it essential to use it with windows 10??

Does it automatically come with either windows 10 or nvda?


Hettie


On 2020/10/16 9:20 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.10.2 is now available. This version includes localization updates and fixes an issue in emoji panel where NVDA may announce first people emoji if this category is selected. It also comes with a fix for Cortana generation 2 (Version 2004 and later) where NVDA doesn’t announce text responses when using most recent Cortana version. As always, you can check for the add-on update via Add-on Updater or visiting community add-ons website.

 

A few things to note about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials releases and development snapshots:

  • Version 20.10.2 is the last version to support NVDA 2020.1. Starting in November, NVDA 2020.2 or later will be required (this add-on supports current and immediate past releases, which are 2020.3 and 2020.2, respectively as of time of this post).
  • Starting next week (likely by October 25th snapshot), development snapshots will require NVDA 2020.3. Although the stable version won’t require 2020.3 until next year, I’m doing this early for dev channel subscribers in order to test add-on compatibility with vast internal changes introduced in NVDA 2020.3 that benefits this add-on.
  • Starting in late November (likely around Thanksgiving weekend in United States), development snapshots will not run on November 2019 Update (Version 1909) in preparation for invoking another support policy: Windows 10 App Essentials will be dropping support for Version 1909 in January 2021.
  • Likely in early December, development snapshot users will get an absolute alpha (pilot) build of this add-on i.e. an add-on development snapshot that will require upcoming NVDA 2020.4 which is in development. The content of this alpha build will depend on features the upcoming NVDA version will have around that time.

 

By the way, if you want to contribute to this add-on, feel free to post issues on GitHub and/or send pull requests. Anyone who are using Windows 10 (at least supported releases) are welcome to contribute, although for best experience, I recommend using latest stable release (Version 2004), or if you are helping out with an Insider Preview feature, use either beta or dev channel builds (speaking of dev channel Insider Preview builds, expect a series of builds this weekend and next week that will bring support for updated emoji panel design, which is way different than what we are used to, according to reports I’m hearing).

Cheers,

Joseph



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Re: NVDA + 1 under new tab page of Chrome

Gene
 

If you are in the right place, browse mode should be on. Make sure you are actually in the blank page. Use f6 as probably the fastest way to get there. I have my browsers open to a blank page and if I am in the right place, browse mode is active and the descriptions work as you describe.

If you open a blank new tab with control n, you are placed on the address bar, not in the actual page.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:37 AM
To: NVDA Mailing List
Subject: [nvda] NVDA + 1 under new tab page of Chrome

Hello,

Normally, when particular page is opened in Chrome, pressing nvda 1,
then press those navigational keys (e.g. k) will speak its respective
function in web navigation (e.g. link for k)

But I just found out that, if the current page is a blank new tab page
(e.g. a blank page after opening Chrome) pressing nvda 1, and press
those navigational keys will not speak its function, but just speak the
English letter.

I would like to know, is this a normal behavior?


Thanks,

William
Re: my friend's problem is solved for now

Gene
 

And repair places often update programs that shouldn't be updated because the new versions aren't accessible. If a machine is taken into a repair place, perhaps an agreement, perhaps in writing, should be made that no changes, except those necessary to repair, including disinfect, a computer will be made without the approval of the owner.

I have no idea if repair places will accept such agreements but I pose the topic for discussion.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now



One time I took my computer to Geek Squad and they messed one of my computers up royally too. My computer went through two other parties before it was fixed. That computer spent its entire life with me and I got another computer and some left over voices were loaded onto a brand new computer. I just removed them recently. Repair places can really mess up computers when they don’t understand screen reader software.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now





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Re: NVDA + 1 under new tab page of Chrome

David Goldfield
 

Hi. I think this may be happening because you are initially focused on the address bar when you open a new tab. Press the tab key to move your focus away from the address bar and onto the actual page content. Then, press insert-1 to enable input help and the single letter navigation keys should now speak their function.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/17/2020 6:37 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hello,

Normally, when particular page is opened in Chrome, pressing nvda 1, then press those navigational keys (e.g. k) will speak its respective function in web navigation (e.g. link for k)

But I just found out that, if the current page is a blank new tab page (e.g. a blank page after opening Chrome) pressing nvda 1, and press those navigational keys will not speak its function, but just speak the English letter.

I would like to know, is this a normal behavior?


Thanks,

William
Re: Windows 10, NVDA, Narrator and Braille

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Hi Pele,

Narrator uses his own display driver and replaces the one of other
screenreaders.

Press ctrl-win-n, this will open narrator settings. You can use NVDA
here.

Press shift-tab a 17 times.
You will land on something like: Braille display driver.
In my case, it is set to Focus 3 display driver.
Change the driver here.

You can also change it in device manager, but this is more simple.

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 08:59:48 +0100 "Pele West" <pele.westlists@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 10 2004, NVDA 2020.3 and Narrator.

A few days ago I tried connecting my Braille Sense U2 QWERTY to the
laptop to use as a braille display in Narrator. I had to install BRLTTY
then it
worked straight away. I did not have to select a device.

Since then I have not been able to use the Braille Sense with NVDA. When
I select HIMS it just says "Error, Cannot Load Braille Display". I also
tried loading all the other displays, in case one worked.

As I had not done this for some time, I don't know if the problem is
with Windows 10 2004, NVDA 2020.3 or narrator and BRLTTy.

I tried uninstalling Accessibility Support from Settings, using
instructions I found on the web, but BRLTTY is still there when I try to
select a braille display in NVDA.

I have looked at the Narrator manual, but the instructions are the same
to uninstall BRLTTY.

As an experiment I tried connecting my Brailliant B64 display to the
laptop. It would not connect. This display is usually connected to my
Windows 7 machine, which works perfectly with NVDA. The Braille Sense
also works with the Windows 7 machine.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get NVDA connected
again? If possible I would still like to be able to connect Narrator,
but this is not essential.

Thanks


Pele West
NVDA + 1 under new tab page of Chrome

William
 

Hello,

Normally, when particular page is opened in Chrome, pressing nvda 1, then press those navigational keys (e.g. k) will speak its respective function in web navigation (e.g. link for k)

But I just found out that, if the current page is a blank new tab page (e.g. a blank page after opening Chrome) pressing nvda 1, and press those navigational keys will not speak its function, but just speak the English letter.

I would like to know, is this a normal behavior?


Thanks,

William
Windows 10, NVDA, Narrator and Braille

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 10 2004, NVDA 2020.3 and Narrator.

A few days ago I tried connecting my Braille Sense U2 QWERTY to the
laptop to use as a braille display in Narrator. I had to install BRLTTY
then it
worked straight away. I did not have to select a device.

Since then I have not been able to use the Braille Sense with NVDA. When
I select HIMS it just says "Error, Cannot Load Braille Display". I also
tried loading all the other displays, in case one worked.

As I had not done this for some time, I don't know if the problem is
with Windows 10 2004, NVDA 2020.3 or narrator and BRLTTy.

I tried uninstalling Accessibility Support from Settings, using
instructions I found on the web, but BRLTTY is still there when I try to
select a braille display in NVDA.

I have looked at the Narrator manual, but the instructions are the same
to uninstall BRLTTY.

As an experiment I tried connecting my Brailliant B64 display to the
laptop. It would not connect. This display is usually connected to my
Windows 7 machine, which works perfectly with NVDA. The Braille Sense
also works with the Windows 7 machine.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get NVDA connected
again? If possible I would still like to be able to connect Narrator,
but this is not essential.

Thanks


Pele West
Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

David Ingram
 

Hi, how are you? How much would it cost to build me a web site? How much does it cost to hoste a site? It has been a long time since I asked these questions. I also want to be able to have a shoping cart also where people can buy services that i'd like to offer. Thank you for any information that you might have concerning my questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie <abletec@gmail.com>
Sent: Oct 16, 2020 10:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

Amir, my hosting provider is doing some server migrations, & I
recently changed wp4newbs.com to be my primary domain in CPanel--so
yeah--between the 2 it definitively created some problems. I have
things working now though. I do apologize to you for the
inconvenience.

Please read the 1st post, entitled "WordPress for Newbs Materials Are
Now Free" for access details.

It's been pretty low traffic of late, but feel free to post any
queries/experiences you may have.

On 10/16/20, amir din <mrdin8877@hotmail.my> wrote:
Hi,
The tutorials in this website for WordPress for noobies is not working. For
example,
https://www.wp4newbs.com/2012/01/wordpress-class-up/
when trying to download the .zip, it said page not found.

thanks

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10

From: Jackie<mailto:abletec@gmail.com>
Sent: ‏29 ‏صفر,‏ ‏1442 ‏06:36 ‏ص
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press
web creation

Hello, Haroon. While not specifically geared toward NVDA, for
wordpress in general using a screenreader, you might be interested in:
www.wp4newbs.com<http://www.wp4newbs.com>;
& also please reference my signature for a resource that might be of
interest as well.

Please note that all these resources are free, so, although they
belong to me, I don't receive financial gain from them. Hopefully
posting these will not be considered advertising/commercialism, etc.

On 10/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know
your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.


it can be found off the following web page from my website at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>;

when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is
a link coming off it hopefully it helps.



I do not use the program.


Gene nz


On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding
this.
Thank you.






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Re: NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

Hello 
The parameter prompt of the method cannot be read out, press Ctrl +k, Ctrl+P
Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

soloman s
 

Dear madam,
I've trouble joining the mailing list, any solutions.

On 10/17/20, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Amir, my hosting provider is doing some server migrations, & I
recently changed wp4newbs.com to be my primary domain in CPanel--so
yeah--between the 2 it definitively created some problems. I have
things working now though. I do apologize to you for the
inconvenience.

Please read the 1st post, entitled "WordPress for Newbs Materials Are
Now Free" for access details.

It's been pretty low traffic of late, but feel free to post any
queries/experiences you may have.

On 10/16/20, amir din <mrdin8877@hotmail.my> wrote:
Hi,
The tutorials in this website for WordPress for noobies is not working.
For
example,
https://www.wp4newbs.com/2012/01/wordpress-class-up/
when trying to download the .zip, it said page not found.

thanks

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows
10

From: Jackie<mailto:abletec@gmail.com>
Sent: ‏29 ‏صفر,‏ ‏1442 ‏06:36 ‏ص
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press
web creation

Hello, Haroon. While not specifically geared toward NVDA, for
wordpress in general using a screenreader, you might be interested in:
www.wp4newbs.com<http://www.wp4newbs.com>;
& also please reference my signature for a resource that might be of
interest as well.

Please note that all these resources are free, so, although they
belong to me, I don't receive financial gain from them. Hopefully
posting these will not be considered advertising/commercialism, etc.

On 10/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know
your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.


it can be found off the following web page from my website at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>;

when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is
a link coming off it hopefully it helps.



I do not use the program.


Gene nz


On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info
regarding
this.
Thank you.






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Re: my friend's problem is solved for now

Shaun Everiss
 

Well when I get a system to fix, I always ask if this is, a get it working no matter what, or is this, get it, test it, give me a deadline and maybe a contract and I'll get it done.

If the forma, then I will do what I need to do to get it working ignoring everything else.

For most people that I handle their system, I ask what they want, whats it doing, how have they done it and note it down.

When I get a new system to fix, the first thing I do is reformat.

A reformat fixes everything and means I don't have to handle all the stuff I don't know and gets me control.

It also makes me put things together without stuff getting in the way.

I also make note of hardware, devices, the system specs etc.

I then install everything needed and any extras people want, do research on the system and optimise it.

Its up to them weather they keep it that way however.

And 90% of all my customers keep it like that.

Excluding the one guy that clicked all the boxes on websites saying his system was infected because he was scared about the icons on the system tray, that actually got a chuckle outa me.

The same guy then coppied his user account over without following all the safety procedures to do that requiring me to make another account and reinstall a bunch of extra stuff, and to be sure I gave him the 6 page document and told him that thats not the way you do it.

The only other one I had was a person that I got everything working that continuously did the same things to break it, ie loaded cracked software, used dodgy sites, clicked the links.

This person also didn't give me their list of what they wanted and just said it was slow.

So I got the system, reformatted it again, tested it, loaded and said it was fine.

2 weeks later, its broken, so I got the system, reformattted it, tested it and it was fine.

This happened 6 times before I decided the easiest way was to reformat the system, load xp which what it originally had, load it to factory defaults, and hand it back with a disk of all the stuff I put on it, and end the contract because it was becoming a total hellish bore.

Now I am at some point facing a person that has a system that was never configured but these guys are security nuts, which believe that updates of any kind break things.

So I am going to have to take the system, clear it and see what is what if they agree.

Probably won't happen.

I also have a guy on my list that keeps his system going on 1 win7 install and if it breaks even though he has worked it to almost death refuses to replace it till its sort of in a semi broken state.

He's my brother and well.

I have also had people that instead of asking me load a load of stuff for something I allready have.

This means the system gets full of spyware and other junk.

The stupid thing is I have access to the stuff they need and all they need to do is ask me for it, give me the cash and I send the thing.

But no.

So here is a system totally screwed because no one listens to little me, so another reformat but I actually feel like I was wasting my time.

My top one is the person that had a virus.

Her responce, load 30 firewalls 30 antimalware and virus scanners and a load of other things to find out what the best is.

Result, 95% of the hard drive is full of junk files.

Removed all the programs and put it down to just a couple.

The system needed to be back the next day.

So its on all night long clearing out junk files and happily it worked after that but still.

Then there are the people that read half the screen, try to do a simple task and end up in the middle of another galaxy, loading spyware, extra software and the like without knowing what it is.

They don't know how they got there maybe they got distracted.

So I clear the system and just in case I am a total retarded dumbo which is possible because I remember so many command sets its impossible to remember everything at any 1 time, and I can get there and it works and I can't find where the problem actually was.

I don't think its possible though for the blind to halfscreen anything in fact unless I am really that tired that I am falling asleep at my terminal which doesn't happen these days because I make sure to go away before that happens.

In fact if  I start to read something, or search for stupid things online or sit for a minute or so, only to find myself pushing my eyes then I pritty much know I need to hit the sack because the next time and thing I know I will be off my chair.



On 17/10/2020 4:45 pm, Leslie wrote:

One time I took my computer to Geek Squad and they messed one of my computers up royally too.  My computer went through two other parties before it was fixed.  That computer spent its entire life with me and I got another computer and some left over voices were loaded onto a brand new computer.  I just removed them recently.  Repair places can really mess up computers when they don’t understand screen reader software.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now

 

I

 
Re: NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Luke Robinett
 

Oh, that’s fantastic news! Thank you
Re: my friend's problem is solved for now

Leslie
 

One time I took my computer to Geek Squad and they messed one of my computers up royally too.  My computer went through two other parties before it was fixed.  That computer spent its entire life with me and I got another computer and some left over voices were loaded onto a brand new computer.  I just removed them recently.  Repair places can really mess up computers when they don’t understand screen reader software.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my friend's problem is solved for now

 

I

 
Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

Jackie
 

Amir, my hosting provider is doing some server migrations, & I
recently changed wp4newbs.com to be my primary domain in CPanel--so
yeah--between the 2 it definitively created some problems. I have
things working now though. I do apologize to you for the
inconvenience.

Please read the 1st post, entitled "WordPress for Newbs Materials Are
Now Free" for access details.

It's been pretty low traffic of late, but feel free to post any
queries/experiences you may have.

On 10/16/20, amir din <mrdin8877@hotmail.my> wrote:
Hi,
The tutorials in this website for WordPress for noobies is not working. For
example,
https://www.wp4newbs.com/2012/01/wordpress-class-up/
when trying to download the .zip, it said page not found.

thanks

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for Windows
10

From: Jackie<mailto:abletec@gmail.com>
Sent: ‏29 ‏صفر,‏ ‏1442 ‏06:36 ‏ص
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press
web creation

Hello, Haroon. While not specifically geared toward NVDA, for
wordpress in general using a screenreader, you might be interested in:
www.wp4newbs.com<http://www.wp4newbs.com>;
& also please reference my signature for a resource that might be of
interest as well.

Please note that all these resources are free, so, although they
belong to me, I don't receive financial gain from them. Hopefully
posting these will not be considered advertising/commercialism, etc.

On 10/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know
your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.


it can be found off the following web page from my website at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>;

when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is
a link coming off it hopefully it helps.



I do not use the program.


Gene nz


On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding
this.
Thank you.






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Re: Partial NVDA shut down after Add-on Updater performs an update

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  The second NVDA icon didn't go away until I pressed the APPLICATIONS key while I was focused on it.  Interestingly, when "Add-on Updater" indicated that there was an update, pressing ALT+TAB to cycle to the "Welcome" dialog to dismiss it before performing the update resulted in the "Update" dialog being titled as the "Welcome" dialog.

Thanks,

Louise
Re: NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,
Ah, I see.
Nope - that fix is included in 2020.4 alpha if I'm reading what's new document correctly.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Hi again Joseph,
Just to avoid confusion and make sure we are on the same page, I am indeed talking about visual studio 2019, not visual studio code. There’s a long-standing problem where NVDA will read the entire line of code as you try to scroll through an IntelliSense menu. the expected behavior would be for it to just read the menu item you selected. My understanding was this UI automation option we’re discussing was to enable this behavior to work correctly, but maybe that’s not the case?

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
The whole point of selective UIA event registration flag is to limit NVDA to processing events for foreground UIA elements i.e. the app you are using. This works best in Visual Studio, not really Visual Studio Code as it poses a different set of problems. This flag also introduced regressions for emoji panel users, therefore I wrote a workaround in my add-on to deal with this scenario.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Robinett
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA
automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Hi Joseph,
I restarted the PC before trying it out. Any other reasons why it might not be working? Thanks again.

Luke

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must restart NVDA for that change to take effect. This is because the thread responsible for facilitating communication between NVDA and UIA cannot be stopped unless you do it manually from Python Console, and the best way to achieve this is restarting NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Robinett
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA
automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Edit: typo in the subject. “UA” should have been “UI.”

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Luke Robinett via groups.io <blindgroupsluke=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,
I understand that the enable selective registration of UI automation events option was added to address a problem in visual studio where NVDA reads the entire line of code whenever navigating an IntelliSense menu, making the IntelliSense feature almost unusable. I just enabled this new option and launched visual studio 2019 but this same problematic behavior is still occurring. Are there any additional settings adjustments I need to make in NVDA or visual studio to get this working?


Thanks,
Luke
Re: vocaliser voice updates

Pauline Smith
 

Thank you very much for this information.  I suspected my query would already have an answer.  Everyone can use their delete key on my "late to the party" post.

Pauline

On 10/13/2020 8:23 AM, Don H wrote:
I have what I think is the latest Vocalizer addon for NVDA installed. The name of the installer file from AT Guys is

codefactory-py3-1.0-ATGuys.nvda-addon


On 10/13/2020 1:15 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hi.

I have the sapi vocaliser installed.

I just downloaded the latest launcher from atguys.

There are several voices that state they need updates but there is no update button.

So I uninstalled all voices and reinstalled them again but still get notifications that some voices have updates.

Also tried to change activation status for one system and got an cert error so maybe I need to wait for code factory to renew their ssl.
Re: NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Luke Robinett
 

Hi again Joseph,
Just to avoid confusion and make sure we are on the same page, I am indeed talking about visual studio 2019, not visual studio code. There’s a long-standing problem where NVDA will read the entire line of code as you try to scroll through an IntelliSense menu. the expected behavior would be for it to just read the menu item you selected. My understanding was this UI automation option we’re discussing was to enable this behavior to work correctly, but maybe that’s not the case?

On Oct 16, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
The whole point of selective UIA event registration flag is to limit NVDA to processing events for foreground UIA elements i.e. the app you are using. This works best in Visual Studio, not really Visual Studio Code as it poses a different set of problems. This flag also introduced regressions for emoji panel users, therefore I wrote a workaround in my add-on to deal with this scenario.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Hi Joseph,
I restarted the PC before trying it out. Any other reasons why it might not be working? Thanks again.

Luke

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You must restart NVDA for that change to take effect. This is because the thread responsible for facilitating communication between NVDA and UIA cannot be stopped unless you do it manually from Python Console, and the best way to achieve this is restarting NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Robinett
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA
automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Edit: typo in the subject. “UA” should have been “UI.”

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Luke Robinett via groups.io <blindgroupsluke=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,
I understand that the enable selective registration of UI automation events option was added to address a problem in visual studio where NVDA reads the entire line of code whenever navigating an IntelliSense menu, making the IntelliSense feature almost unusable. I just enabled this new option and launched visual studio 2019 but this same problematic behavior is still occurring. Are there any additional settings adjustments I need to make in NVDA or visual studio to get this working?


Thanks,
Luke
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