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Using NVDA Remote.

George Zaynoun
 

Hello, would like to learn how to use NVDA Remote, I have this addon but don't know how to use it, when to be client and when to be server etc, please help with step-by-step instructions; thanks.

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Latex with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello all,


I would like to start learning Latex, and Ihave a couple of questions.


1. Is it usable with NVDA?


2. Can anyone recommend a good manual for learning from scratch?


Thanks in advance, ciao,

Ollie


Re: speech viewer help

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It is probably not applicable here, and it seems not to fix my dropbox dialogue issue either. I'd be rather interested in what you use speech viewer for and if you are viewing the output if it actually is doing what its supposed to even after speech stops.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] speech viewer help


Hi Adrian,
Have you ever tried running the Fix tool? Don't know for sure whether
it's the right name but you'll find it somewhat similar.
Also I don't know if it could do any good, but it will do no damage, so...


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Em 08/03/2019 18:33, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Hi all

If i try to access speech viewer from tools in nvda sound stops and
also crashed pc eventually after restarting nvda a few times.


Regards Adrian Pocock




Re: Alex voice from the mac with NVDA?

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I do not think so. If there is its a paid for one as the voice is copyrighted and hacking it to run would, shall we say be a little suspect legally without written consent from Apple.
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 9:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] Alex voice from the mac with NVDA?


Hi folks.

I have a mac mini, and am running windows on it viea bootcamp.

I thought I remember a addon that would let you use the alex voice with NVDA?

I no there was 1 that only worked when there were certon words, but I think this one works using something with the command line, although I could be wrong.



Re: speech viewer help

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Hi I've said this before, but I guess it would not be an issue to repost it.
Make a batch file in the root folder of your drive called restartwithlog.bat
It should run from the desktop though or with a shortcut to the root file. Everything between the === should be written in this file using notepad, exactly as it appears.
====
@echo off
cd "%temp%"
start /WAIT nvda.exe -q

start notepad.exe nvda.log
rem, this line just kicks its heels for a bit to make sure the log is loaded into notepad before rebooting nvda.
ping -n 5 127.0.0.1>nul
start nvda.exe

exit

====

This should force a copy of nvda to exit, then load the log file into notepad from that session, and restart nvda
Simply go up from the bottom past all the shut down stuff and you should find the bits where things went bad. Note it is advisable that you set the log level to debug in the settings of nvda before attempting this as it can make more sense to a developer.

If its a long log then crop out stuff not relevent first, then cut and paste it into a message.

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From: "ADRIAN POCOCK" <ampbeast@live.co.uk>
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech viewer help


Hi Sarah i found the log file, it is under nvda menu tools . You said paste it here where is here exactly and when you said paste do you mean the file or the contents of the file.

On 08/03/2019 21:38, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

When this happens can you submit a log to the team and see what happens from there? if you did submit a log to the devs what have they said in response to the bug report?

On 8 Mar 2019, at 13:33, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi all

If i try to access speech viewer from tools in nvda sound stops and also crashed pc eventually after restarting nvda a few times.


Regards Adrian Pocock





Re: speech viewer help

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Does this happen no matter which synth is in use at the time?
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 9:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] speech viewer help


Hi all

If i try to access speech viewer from tools in nvda sound stops and also crashed pc eventually after restarting nvda a few times.


Regards Adrian Pocock



Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

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Since a lot of us do not have windows 10, we would not see that, however I wonder if the techniques used in toolbar explorer might be applied in an add on to make operation of these buttons less of a mess?
Of course Firefox could, if they wanted make them easer to get at or give each a special hotkey defined when you install an add on.
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Subject: Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?


Travis,

Thanks. It appears that object navigation is the only way to go for this, and it does work like a charm.

I knew I'd had this conversation at some point in the past that was not quite yet relegated to the mists of memory, but it was not entirely resolved. About eight months ago on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Group, topic: Firefox Quantum, Version 60, and getting to browser control buttons ( https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/21794516 )
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Re: Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

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No this was what I was insinuating in my previous post. Any button should also refresh the page afterwards, but I cannot find it either.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?


Hi.



I just started using uBlock Origin, which was already mentioned. I think it is working pretty well and have noticed it block a few things. It seems configurable through a standard web-based menu. However, there is supposed to be a big “power” button or something in the corner of the window that lets you turn it on and off directly for specific websites; I have not figured out yet how to access this button, but to be honest I haven’t spent a lot of time looking at the add-on yet.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: March 8, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?



Hello all,



I’m noticing more and more difficulty doing Google searches and reading websites due to ads and other clutter. Would someone be able to recommend an ad blocker which works well with the latest version of NVDA and Firefox? Perhaps another browser would work better?



Thanks in advance,



Jan


Re: Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

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Well, one of the main annoyances of late is that a company or service makes a nice accessible page, but allows third party adverts which are often not accessible and screw it all up. What is needed is an ad blocker with a hot key toggle that can be disabled and re enabled at will, including the refresh required to get that page back. Since so many sites now ask you to disable the ad blocker or pay, this sort of easy way to toggle for us would be of great use i think.
At the moment I'm forever opening the add ons, toggling off the add blocker then turning it on again. OK many do allow a black or white list of sites, but it needs more micro control than that in my experience.
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 7:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?


Hello all,

I’m noticing more and more difficulty doing Google searches and reading websites due to ads and other clutter. Would someone be able to recommend an ad blocker which works well with the latest version of NVDA and Firefox? Perhaps another browser would work better?

Thanks in advance,

Jan


Re: LAPTOP VS DESKTOP

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Which brings me to the point that if you have a lot of custom keys set as well and both sets active it cramps the style for any new function that might come along in the core of nvda.
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] LAPTOP VS DESKTOP


That's because it's a key conflict. in the laptop layout, nvda plus
down arrow is read next line. The default layout always takes
precedence when there's a key conflict.


George

On 3/8/2019 9:43 AM, Gene wrote:
But some, perhaps many, desktop layout commands don't. For example,
the desktop read to end command doesn't work in the laptop layout.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] LAPTOP VS DESKTOP

Yes, numpad and other desktop layout commands still work in the laptop
layout.

On 3/8/2019 10:27 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
If using laptop keyboard on a desktop computer, can one still issue
screen reading commands using the numpad? It seems like I could do
that in JAWS; but I can't decide if it works here in NVDA.







Re: Converting epub to pdf

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Yes apart from anything else, it does not show NVDA in a good light even if the list is not actually run by them.
If you want the wild west type of situation use Usenet groups which are mostly unmoderated, but don't post the links to the articles here!


:-)
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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Converting epop to pdf


[Edited Message Follows]

Hi all

It is pretty obvious they misspelt epub, which stands for electronic publication.

It all depends on copyright restrictions how you go about conversion.

If the origanal poster could enlarge what type of epub they are talking about it would be helpful.

If there is no protection on the epub file then use this link to get a conversion to pdf or audio and other formats for free.

https://www.robobraille.org/

[ *Moderator's Note* : The section on removing Digital Rights Management from copyrighted publications has been removed. There are few written rules for the NVDA Group, but sites such as Groups.io and Web Forums in general frown upon any discussion of anything that attempts to violate copyright or remove legitimate copyright protections. I will quote two forum rules from Bleeping Computer, where I also moderate, that definitely apply here:

- The posting of any copyrighted material on our web site is strictly prohibited. (and that would include a verbatim text passage of the length that was posted here. Anything beyond a line or two goes beyond fair use. If one wishes to refer to a whole article, or close to it, post the link to it.)

- No subject matter will be allowed whose purpose is to defeat existing copyright or security measures. If a user persists and/or the activity is obviously illegal the staff reserves the right to remove such content and/or ban the user.

Groups.io and similar hosting services have been known to shutter groups that persist in posting material explicitly intended to circumvent electronic copyright protections.]


On 08/03/2019 10:46, Antony Stone wrote:


What is an epop file? A Google search gives me no useful-looking results.
Antony. On Friday 08 March 2019 at 11:44:10, farhan israk wrote:
How to convert epop file to pdf file?


Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

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It is supposed to be back ported to 66 according to how I interpret it.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section


Good news! YAY!
Just looking forward to the 67 one :)


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Em 08/03/2019 07:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
And finally.. From Jamie in response to my ticket on nvda bug tracker.

This is fixed for Firefox 66, as both patches got uplifted from 67.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1525569https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1525937

You are receiving this because you authored the thread.







Re: Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

JM Casey
 

I haven’t figured this out. I thought there was only the one big button, which some people seem to call a “power” button, maybe because of the way it looks? Anyway, I need to spend some more time with this add-on.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 8, 2019 8:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

 

Another vote for uBlock Origin.

That being said, does anyone here know how to get to the various control buttons that are physically located to the right of the address bar, e.g., the Firefox menu button plus all of the buttons that get put there as you add add-ons?   I could swear that I once posted the technique to get to these, but I can find nothing in my own notes.  It has to be possible to navigate to these somehow, but it's not nearly as easy as it is under Chrome.

When I take the mouse over these controls, NVDA definitely announces them, but what I cannot seem to do is find the magic technique to actually throw focus on to any of them.

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Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

Lino Morales
 

Cool beans. I was wondering why would be off in a blank tab. Makes since. Thanks Bryan.

 

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Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 11:24:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?
 
uBlock Origin is only active when a page has been loaded, and I mean a real webpage.  It will show as off for an empty new tab, tabs for settings, etc.
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Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

Kwork
 

Brian, that might have been right before I joined that group. The instructions I gave were what I figured out on my own as I was frustrated by not being able to do it in some sort of logical way.


Your welcome. I'm glad it works in general, and not just for me.


Travis

On 3/8/2019 8:52 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Travis,

            Thanks.  It appears that object navigation is the only way to go for this, and it does work like a charm.

            I knew I'd had this conversation at some point in the past that was not quite yet relegated to the mists of memory, but it was not entirely resolved.  About eight months ago on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Group, topic:  Firefox Quantum, Version 60, and getting to browser control buttons
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Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

Kwork
 

Yes, that's normal behavior.

Travis

On 3/8/2019 8:55 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

It indeed does work like a frosted lucky charm LOL! But a question here. It says You Block Origin is off. So does it do it’s thing once a URL has been loaded? Thanks.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:52:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?
 
Travis,

            Thanks.  It appears that object navigation is the only way to go for this, and it does work like a charm.

            I knew I'd had this conversation at some point in the past that was not quite yet relegated to the mists of memory, but it was not entirely resolved.  About eight months ago on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Group, topic:  Firefox Quantum, Version 60, and getting to browser control buttons
--

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Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

 

uBlock Origin is only active when a page has been loaded, and I mean a real webpage.  It will show as off for an empty new tab, tabs for settings, etc.
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Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

Lino Morales
 

It indeed does work like a frosted lucky charm LOL! But a question here. It says You Block Origin is off. So does it do it’s thing once a URL has been loaded? Thanks.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:52:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?
 
Travis,

            Thanks.  It appears that object navigation is the only way to go for this, and it does work like a charm.

            I knew I'd had this conversation at some point in the past that was not quite yet relegated to the mists of memory, but it was not entirely resolved.  About eight months ago on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Group, topic:  Firefox Quantum, Version 60, and getting to browser control buttons
--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

 

Travis,

            Thanks.  It appears that object navigation is the only way to go for this, and it does work like a charm.

            I knew I'd had this conversation at some point in the past that was not quite yet relegated to the mists of memory, but it was not entirely resolved.  About eight months ago on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Group, topic:  Firefox Quantum, Version 60, and getting to browser control buttons
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Firefox control buttons+Re: [nvda] Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?

Kwork
 

Here's what I do:

1. When focussed on the address bar, press nvda+up arrow on the numpad to move up an element.

2. Press nvda+numpad right arrow to move through the buttons that the installed extentions have placed.

3. When I find what I want, I press nvda+numpad enter to activate it.

Hope this answers what you asked. I haven't found any other way that works.
Travis

On 3/8/2019 6:14 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Another vote for uBlock Origin.

That being said, does anyone here know how to get to the various control buttons that are physically located to the right of the address bar, e.g., the Firefox menu button plus all of the buttons that get put there as you add add-ons?   I could swear that I once posted the technique to get to these, but I can find nothing in my own notes.  It has to be possible to navigate to these somehow, but it's not nearly as easy as it is under Chrome.

When I take the mouse over these controls, NVDA definitely announces them, but what I cannot seem to do is find the magic technique to actually throw focus on to any of them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back