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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

I haven't tried the add-on yet, although I doubt it will help in any way since perhaps it's not updated according to the latest Firefox.
Of course they might not have time to catch up with the updates as soon as they're released, so it's understandable.
Anyway, as I've said, miss my old Firefox!

P.S.: Should I stop posting to this thread or since somehow it's about NVDA that's ok to keep it up?

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Em 06/03/2019 18:08, Sue J. Ward escreveu:

 Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

Sarah,

Of course you may!  LaTeX is platform independent.  I'm just trying to get what will likely be a long and productive conversation, but that's marginally related to NVDA, launched where it can be discussed to the hearts' content of those interested without annoying those who turn to the main NVDA group for guidance on using or configuring NVDA.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use a mac primarily, may I ask my question in that thread? I've ben struggling with this language as I've ben trying to learn it by myself. This is wonderful.

On 6 Mar 2019, at 13:05, Brian Vogel wrote:

Hello All,

            The next few weeks are going to mark a period of transition, and a transition supported by both myself and Nimer Jaber, the list owner.

             This topic is just the sort of thing the Chat subgroup is meant for, and where extended discussion of LaTeX itself can shine, unencumbered.  Then there will also exist an online archive of what you all share with each other that you have easy access to later (and we all forget some detail we know was discussed at some point).

             I have taken the liberty of starting a topic there for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

             I am begging all of you who want to get into LaTeX "hot and heavy" with each other to take it to the Chat subgroup, which any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.

             I will leave this topic open for several hours, so that those who may not have yet subscribed to the Chat subgroup can do so, but will lock it later this evening.  After you have subscribed to the Chat subgroup, feel free to post to this message indicating such.  I can then post another "bump" message on the above noted topic so that an e-mail will land in your inbox to let you join in on the discussion.

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Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Quentin Christensen
 

This is one of those cases where Word tries to be a little bit too clever for its own good.  You can set the default view to Draft, however Word saves the view within individual documents, so unless you last saved the document in Draft view, it could open in another view.

The ribbon shortcut key for draft view is alt+w, then e.

There is a direct shortcut key, which is control+alt+n.  Most of you should recognise that keystroke as the one that you can use to start NVDA.  You can change that keystroke, or the other option is to create an entry on Word's Quick Access Toolbar to switch to draft view.  You can then press ALT+1 to access the first item on the Quick Access Toolbar, ALT+2 for the second and so on.

To edit the Quick Access Toolbar, open Word, then press ALT+F, then T to open the Options.  Press CONTROL+TAB until the focus moves to the "Quick Access Toolbar" category.  Press TAB once to "Choose commands from".  Either choose "All Commands" or "View Ribbon", then TAB to the list of commands and find "Draft" and press ALT+A to add that to the toolbar.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:26 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

I get these in daily digests, so, sorry for the late reply, but draft view strips out the toolbars and also unnecessary font styles to simplify writing. It's far speedier to write and edit documents in. Plus, the ribbon opens quicker too, for some reason. I have no clue how it looks visually, but it even increases the speed of the spell checker, for some reason. Maybe it's because I'm using an older HP laptop with a clogged up registry and god knows what else in here, but if I notice a huge increase in speed, after switching to draft view, it must be stripping visual junk out of the window. I haven't tried it on my 256 GB SSD ACER yet but I've noticed an extremely massive boost in speed and editing speed after switching to draft view. Anyway, can I tell MSW, Microsoft Word, to run Macros as soon as I open documents? The screen reader help for Macros only talks about running them manually, and my only experience with Macros is using an autocorrect backup Macro someone created for word 2003.



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NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

David Russell
 

Hi Group,
This is for any writers among the group.

In doing self-editing of fiction, I have found ProWritingAid is
probably the best going, but requires one to perhaps go to their site,
enter, and post your edit there. It's doable and works but a bit time
consuming to use.
To keep this brief, what do you use for self-editing?
Can you rely solely on NVDA to have the program work for you?
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Not knowing what add-ons someone has, or what vintage they may be, I would definitely encourage anyone using NVDA with add-ons to get the Add-On Updater add-on, which is getting more and more comprehensive about the add-ons it can keep updated.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

It appears that the "most official" version of Firefox Portable, which tends to follow on the heels of the latest release very quickly, can be found here:

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

There are a couple of sources where Firefox gets repackaged in portable form, but I didn't notice one on the Mozilla.org site.
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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

Hello All,

            The next few weeks are going to mark a period of transition, and a transition supported by both myself and Nimer Jaber, the list owner.

             This topic is just the sort of thing the Chat subgroup is meant for, and where extended discussion of LaTeX itself can shine, unencumbered.  Then there will also exist an online archive of what you all share with each other that you have easy access to later (and we all forget some detail we know was discussed at some point).

             I have taken the liberty of starting a topic there for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

             I am begging all of you who want to get into LaTeX "hot and heavy" with each other to take it to the Chat subgroup, which any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.

             I will leave this topic open for several hours, so that those who may not have yet subscribed to the Chat subgroup can do so, but will lock it later this evening.  After you have subscribed to the Chat subgroup, feel free to post to this message indicating such.  I can then post another "bump" message on the above noted topic so that an e-mail will land in your inbox to let you join in on the discussion.

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locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sharon Austin
 

James, I forgot to ask too, how to set language in LaTeX.   Any resources you can point me to would be greatly, greatly, appreciated.  

Thanks again!

Sharon


locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sharon Austin
 

Hi James this is fabulous.   I'm just now learning about LaTeX and NVDA, but found it is basically out-of-the-box accessible with NVDA.   I would be extremely appreciative of any additional information you could point me to -- even the most basic.   In particular, anything that has to do with the order of operations. I'll be following this thread with great interest.

Thank you, so much.  

Sharon


Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

JM Casey
 

Hey.

I go on the internet and find a file with an extension .srt that is a a text-based subtitle file. You can find them for a great many movies, but probably not newer netflix stuff. There are databases online that contain loads of them, and also if you download a movie in a compressed format like .avi or .mkv and it doesn't contain hard-coded subs, it will likely come with an .srt file.
Transfer the.srt file to your braille display device of choice and you're good to go. The files do contain time codes that don't help you much when reading via this method, so unless someone comes up with a way to actually make use of them (say, to get the display to advance automatically when there is dialogue spoken), you'll just have to skip past them, or maybe use a programme like notepad++ to strip them out of the file altogether.

Again, this method is far from perfect as it requires extra focus that even a sighted viewer/reader would not have to undertake, but it's the best method I've found for my personal use. I've only found myself frustrated a couple of times, mostly with some french films where everyone is always talking. Haha

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: March 6, 2019 2:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Great! How do you read subs on a braille display? Maybe I missed something in your previous message, which I lost... Sorry...


Thanks, Ciao,

Ollie




Il 05/03/2019 22:43, JM Casey ha scritto:
HI.
I read the subtitles on a braille display. It isn't automatic so it means I have to really concentrate on followign the dialogue with my ears as well as my fingers even if I can't understand the language. It works ok most of the time, except in some films with so much dialogue that it's hard to keep up.
Granted it's a bit of work and after my former wife and I split up I haven't been watching as many non-english movies. Well, I watch a lot of Spanish and Italian horror and exploitation movies and those often have english dubs.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: March 5, 2019 1:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Excuse me, but how can you watch a movie or whatever if it's in a language you don't understand?

Ok, you might say you don't watch movies in languages you don't understand, which makes sense.


I'm just like you. I don't like subtitles and I don't like
audiodescriptions. I feel they infringe on my imagination... lol


But I others aer not like me, so I think subtitles should be reacheable
and readable also for the visually impaired and blind...


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 04/03/2019 23:47, JM Casey ha scritto:
That hasn’t been my experience, though granted I don’t watch described
movies all that often and so the number of subtitled ones I tried were
very small. Some movies simply don’t have enough quiet parts for that
to be realistically feasible. Others’ experiences and opinions may of
course vary, but if I can’t listen to the actual actors speaking,
regardless of what language that happens to be in, I’m out of it.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* March 4, 2019 5:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Hi

All the audio described content i have watched they do it in the quiet
parts and do it very well.

Gene nz

On 5/03/2019 9:35 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I don't really know anything about Netflix, and this might not be avilable for some of the new shows there, but it might well be for older ones and movies. I usually just find a file with an .srt extension on the internet, and download it to my braille display device. It's not the best arrangement as the subtitles don't move with the dialogue as they are supposed to, but it's not so bad once you get the hang of it; you just have to focus pretty hard. I'd much rather do this than listen to a synth or a human reading the subtitles, talking over the actual actors in the film!



-----Original Message-----

From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard

Sent: March 4, 2019 2:51 PM

To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA



Hello Gene,





Thanks.





I know how to get around Netflix in Android, although subtitles there aren't very usable.





A friend and I were trying to see them on computers, so I'll have a look

at the page you recommended.





I can find audiodescriptions without diffilulties. I'm currently

watching The Crown and Black Mirror, plus a couple of Italian series and

La Casa de Papel in Spanish, which I'd started watching last year, but

now I discovered audiodescriptions, and it's a great thing...





Ciao and thanks,



Ollie









Il 04/03/2019 20:41, hurrikennyandopo ... ha scritto:



Hi





I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on

the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.





The link to this page ishttps://help.netflix.com/en/node/372

<https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372> <https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372>



They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also

net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a

chrome cast.





When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.





Gene nz





On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello all,





Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?





I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any

reference to subtitles.





Thanks, stay well,





Ollie









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material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the
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their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest
to you please visit
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(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
installed on the APNK network please visit the following link
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the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.







Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Curtis Delzer
 

the one I attempted to use is too old, I found out, but this one

filtaquilla-1.4.1-sm+tb
might work for sounds. It is at least updated.
On 3/6/2019 10:29 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
How do we use this add-on for the sounds?
Tell me more about it? :)

P.S.: What about installing the other add-on? Did you manage it?


Cheers,
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Em 06/03/2019 05:04, Curtis Delzer escreveu:

I will try that, thanks, let's just hope that it is there. there are ways to make sounds when messages come in with an add-on called "tonequilla." :)

On 3/5/2019 9:21 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Curtis,
I'd think if you highlight the file, open the context menu and select the "open with" option, you'd see a "Thunderbird" choice to select and it'd do the trick.
Try it and let me know if it works for you :)
Em 05/03/2019 07:32, Curtis Delzer escreveu:
well now, wouldn't it be fun if the air talked to you saying soft things? :)

I saw the file, downloaded it, but the tutorial on the NEDA site merely mentioned to go to that web site, get it, but I didn't see how to install. I just had the file extension of the folder app open with the executable of t-bird.


On 3/5/2019 1:17 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No its just sometimes people only retain the gist of a message not the detail.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:35 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:


I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?

Please read the tutorial I've already given the link to earlier. The first part is step-by-step instructions for downloading and installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension in Thunderbird.

There are times when I feel like I'm talking to the air.

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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

How do we use this add-on for the sounds?
Tell me more about it? :)

P.S.: What about installing the other add-on? Did you manage it?


Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 06/03/2019 05:04, Curtis Delzer escreveu:

I will try that, thanks, let's just hope that it is there. there are ways to make sounds when messages come in with an add-on called "tonequilla." :)

On 3/5/2019 9:21 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Curtis,
I'd think if you highlight the file, open the context menu and select the "open with" option, you'd see a "Thunderbird" choice to select and it'd do the trick.
Try it and let me know if it works for you :)
Em 05/03/2019 07:32, Curtis Delzer escreveu:
well now, wouldn't it be fun if the air talked to you saying soft things? :)

I saw the file, downloaded it, but the tutorial on the NEDA site merely mentioned to go to that web site, get it, but I didn't see how to install. I just had the file extension of the folder app open with the executable of t-bird.


On 3/5/2019 1:17 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No its just sometimes people only retain the gist of a message not the detail.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:35 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:


I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?

Please read the tutorial I've already given the link to earlier. The first part is step-by-step instructions for downloading and installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension in Thunderbird.

There are times when I feel like I'm talking to the air.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Brian,
Yes that's exactly what I'm referring to.
And you are right, all the other parts of the browser seems alright.
So let's hope in case it's a bug in the latest version that it'll be fixed soon. I miss my old Firefox!


Cheers,
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Em 06/03/2019 11:36, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

Do you mean the bit where you select the type of add on, ie thems extensions etc?
If yes then I have the same issue. Its stuck on themes, and says three of 7 but only four themes are seen and in the bit for selecting other types of add on it just says unknown.This seems to be in the latest version of Firefox which looks like 65.02 to me.
Windows 7.
No idea why, as the rest of the browser seems OK. Perhaps there is a bug in the very latest update?


Brian

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You are lucky, seriously. Miss my old Firefox times where everything was
just a joy.

Cheers,
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Em 05/03/2019 23:16, Kwork escreveu:

Strange. All is working here on the Extentions dialogue in Firefox.

Firefox: 65.0.2 (64-bit)

Windows 10: 1809, 64-bit.

NVDA: 2019.1beta1


Travis

On 3/5/2019 6:25 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm getting a strange behavior from Firefox.
I'm not sure when or where it actually has started, bu I have a
feeling that it started after the last update I got.
The fact is, I can't hear NVDA saying anything but "unknown" when
navigating through the options on the extensions' section.
So, anyone else having this issue? Is there I can try to solve it?
Things I've tried so far:
Restoring Firefox
Updating NVDA
Restarting the computer
Still, none of these atempts gave me any result.

Thanks in advance :)

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trying to sync albums to iPod Shuffle from iTunes using NVDA

Clarissa Mitchell
 

Hello all. I'm trying to sync my iPod shuffle, and I'm running into a
little problem. I want to sync particular albums. I can choose artists
from my library just fine, but it syncs their entire collection I have
in my library, including Christmas albums, which I don't want on my
iPod in March! But when I go to the list of albums and try to select
the ones I want, I get nothing. NVDA says absolutely nothing. I've
tried this with a demo version of JAWS 2019 and got the same result:
absolutely nothing. The only other list where this happens is genres.
The lists of artists and playlists read fine. This makes me think
something needs to be configured in my iTunes. The only other way I
can think to do this would be to create a new playlist, add all the
albums to it and just sync the one playlist. That might work, since
the playlists are being read. By the way, I am running the latest
version of iTunes, on the latest Windows 10. Can anyone help with
this?


Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

Gene
 

I don't know enough about that site to evaluate its reliability.  However, I've seen things on it, I don't recall what now, I don't look at the site much, that I thought were questionable.  I find it hard to believe that firefox would have such a general problem and I haven't seen, in my experience, that the portable version is behind the actual release version.  The current portable version is Version 65.0.2 from portable apps and I assume that the portable apps version checks the portable apps site when determining if a download is available.  The current version of nonportable Firefox is Firefox Standard Release
65.0.2.  That is according to what ismybrowser.com which looks like a reliable site to me.  those who wishh can verify this elsewhere, probably on the Mozilla download Firefox page where the current production release is downloaded.  Portable Apps is a site with a good reputation and I'm very skepticle that they let firefox portable get behind.
 
I just looked at some of the information in that forum discussion.  I'm not sure what the person is saying about using the launcher and not automatically updating.  I put the program on my machine using the download link.  I didn't install the launcher as a separate program.  I have reliably been informed when an update is available.  I have the program set to inform me and not automatically update.  I have been able to update the program by telling it to update.  The procedure is exactly the same as when using the installed version.  Either the information is inaccurate or it is someones experience that didn't install the program using the standard download link, but in some other way. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section

Hi Gene

Refer to https://superuser.com/questions/1193104/firefox-says-its-up-to-date-while-it-is-not

So not necessarily so in some cases.

Regards Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 14:57, Gene wrote:
I doubt portable versions are out of date.  I got a version shortly after quantum came out which was current then and, though I don't use firefox much on my Windows 7 machine, it has often told me updates are available.  What do you base the statement that it is out of date on?
 
Gewne
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section

Hi marcio

Firstly

You could use a portable version of Firefox but they are out of date and would not reflect your current version.

Secondly let me clarify I didn't mean new Firefox profile in your current user on windows.

I meant a new window user account for testing, what you do there would be seperate to your original setup.  This would allow you to gradually start from scratch, start just with narrator which i just tested and it works with the extensions part of Firefox, enough to give basic navigation.

You might have to also install a fresh Firefox. 

Try running it without any additional addons just to see if all is well with the world.

Then if everything is working install nvda without any addons and test it.

Note    When people say to install a fresh copy of Firefox in your current user Firefox leaves a file relating to various settings and if you dont uninstall Firefox before installing new copy it will use these files and if they are corrupted in some way your problems can continue or even get worse.

Firefox also has a cache it uses which becomes larger over time and which also can cause problems, you can clear it, this is how

Do read this carefully because its best to keep your logon info for sites intact unless you have kept info about them somewhere else.

Also if you do create new windows user set it to admin, turn any updates in Firefox off to preserve functionality to serve as a backup if things go wrong in your usual user account.

Another good idea is to create a portable copy of nvda on a memory stick to preserve a functional version to fall back on.

Bounce an email back if you need any help as we all need a hand from time to time.  Or skype me adrian.mark.pocock

Also please give me an idea if you are navigating purely by audio or audio and magn, the reason i ask this is so i can tailor my help to your needs as i might do something different to someone else as i you both together.

All the best Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 04:51, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hi Adrian,
I haven't tried anything you said. I'd like so much to try, though.
Assuming this suggestion would be for the browser, how can I create a new user in Firefox?
Also saying about a portable version, do you suggest me trying it with NVDA or also with the browser?
Thank you so much for the time trying to help me out :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 06/03/2019 00:55, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Hi marcio

Have you tried using a portable version to see if it is your present install or nvda not functioning properly.

There is a additional add-on for nvda for extra support for Firefox and thunderbird.

You could also try creating a new user for testing per pose and see if problems still occur.

I personally do not have any problems in the ext section by tabbing and using basic arrow keys.

If any of this helps, hope you resolve this frustrating issue.

Adrian Pocock.

On 06/03/2019 01:25, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm getting a strange behavior from Firefox.
I'm not sure when or where it actually has started, bu I have a feeling that it started after the last update I got.
The fact is, I can't hear NVDA saying anything but "unknown" when navigating through the options on the extensions' section.
So, anyone else having this issue? Is there I can try to solve it?
Things I've tried so far:
Restoring Firefox
Updating NVDA
Restarting the computer
Still, none of these atempts gave me any result.

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi Brian

Open Office seems great now and I wish I had tried it more frequently.

The issue you mentioned is sort of right, if you use a laptop nvda and a will read continue sly for 3 pages but if you hit the keys again it read the final 3 pages of my word docx file which included many elements tables,graphics,text boxes and standard text.

I feel this is a good quick way to produce and read documents without having to take an exam like modern word for those new comers especially.  The Alt text explanation is great its meaningful and doesn't assume a lot of prior knowledge.

Regards Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 14:21, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
But can you read a whole document yet? Certainly Libra seems not to have that capacity with nvda due to the problem of nvda not knowing the difference between a blank line and the end of the file.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIAN POCOCK" <ampbeast@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?


Hi
David Russell

I just revisited open office as i to tend to use jart a lot and dont really like modern officeword.

They must have done a lot since i last tried it, its really good now and good alt text description.

Regards Adrian Pocock.

On 05/03/2019 09:25, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

David Russell









Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi Gene

Refer to https://superuser.com/questions/1193104/firefox-says-its-up-to-date-while-it-is-not

So not necessarily so in some cases.

Regards Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 14:57, Gene wrote:
I doubt portable versions are out of date.  I got a version shortly after quantum came out which was current then and, though I don't use firefox much on my Windows 7 machine, it has often told me updates are available.  What do you base the statement that it is out of date on?
 
Gewne
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section

Hi marcio

Firstly

You could use a portable version of Firefox but they are out of date and would not reflect your current version.

Secondly let me clarify I didn't mean new Firefox profile in your current user on windows.

I meant a new window user account for testing, what you do there would be seperate to your original setup.  This would allow you to gradually start from scratch, start just with narrator which i just tested and it works with the extensions part of Firefox, enough to give basic navigation.

You might have to also install a fresh Firefox. 

Try running it without any additional addons just to see if all is well with the world.

Then if everything is working install nvda without any addons and test it.

Note    When people say to install a fresh copy of Firefox in your current user Firefox leaves a file relating to various settings and if you dont uninstall Firefox before installing new copy it will use these files and if they are corrupted in some way your problems can continue or even get worse.

Firefox also has a cache it uses which becomes larger over time and which also can cause problems, you can clear it, this is how

Do read this carefully because its best to keep your logon info for sites intact unless you have kept info about them somewhere else.

Also if you do create new windows user set it to admin, turn any updates in Firefox off to preserve functionality to serve as a backup if things go wrong in your usual user account.

Another good idea is to create a portable copy of nvda on a memory stick to preserve a functional version to fall back on.

Bounce an email back if you need any help as we all need a hand from time to time.  Or skype me adrian.mark.pocock

Also please give me an idea if you are navigating purely by audio or audio and magn, the reason i ask this is so i can tailor my help to your needs as i might do something different to someone else as i you both together.

All the best Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 04:51, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hi Adrian,
I haven't tried anything you said. I'd like so much to try, though.
Assuming this suggestion would be for the browser, how can I create a new user in Firefox?
Also saying about a portable version, do you suggest me trying it with NVDA or also with the browser?
Thank you so much for the time trying to help me out :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 06/03/2019 00:55, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Hi marcio

Have you tried using a portable version to see if it is your present install or nvda not functioning properly.

There is a additional add-on for nvda for extra support for Firefox and thunderbird.

You could also try creating a new user for testing per pose and see if problems still occur.

I personally do not have any problems in the ext section by tabbing and using basic arrow keys.

If any of this helps, hope you resolve this frustrating issue.

Adrian Pocock.

On 06/03/2019 01:25, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm getting a strange behavior from Firefox.
I'm not sure when or where it actually has started, bu I have a feeling that it started after the last update I got.
The fact is, I can't hear NVDA saying anything but "unknown" when navigating through the options on the extensions' section.
So, anyone else having this issue? Is there I can try to solve it?
Things I've tried so far:
Restoring Firefox
Updating NVDA
Restarting the computer
Still, none of these atempts gave me any result.

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

Gene
 

I doubt portable versions are out of date.  I got a version shortly after quantum came out which was current then and, though I don't use firefox much on my Windows 7 machine, it has often told me updates are available.  What do you base the statement that it is out of date on?
 
Gewne

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section

Hi marcio

Firstly

You could use a portable version of Firefox but they are out of date and would not reflect your current version.

Secondly let me clarify I didn't mean new Firefox profile in your current user on windows.

I meant a new window user account for testing, what you do there would be seperate to your original setup.  This would allow you to gradually start from scratch, start just with narrator which i just tested and it works with the extensions part of Firefox, enough to give basic navigation.

You might have to also install a fresh Firefox. 

Try running it without any additional addons just to see if all is well with the world.

Then if everything is working install nvda without any addons and test it.

Note    When people say to install a fresh copy of Firefox in your current user Firefox leaves a file relating to various settings and if you dont uninstall Firefox before installing new copy it will use these files and if they are corrupted in some way your problems can continue or even get worse.

Firefox also has a cache it uses which becomes larger over time and which also can cause problems, you can clear it, this is how

Do read this carefully because its best to keep your logon info for sites intact unless you have kept info about them somewhere else.

Also if you do create new windows user set it to admin, turn any updates in Firefox off to preserve functionality to serve as a backup if things go wrong in your usual user account.

Another good idea is to create a portable copy of nvda on a memory stick to preserve a functional version to fall back on.

Bounce an email back if you need any help as we all need a hand from time to time.  Or skype me adrian.mark.pocock

Also please give me an idea if you are navigating purely by audio or audio and magn, the reason i ask this is so i can tailor my help to your needs as i might do something different to someone else as i you both together.

All the best Adrian Pocock

On 06/03/2019 04:51, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hi Adrian,
I haven't tried anything you said. I'd like so much to try, though.
Assuming this suggestion would be for the browser, how can I create a new user in Firefox?
Also saying about a portable version, do you suggest me trying it with NVDA or also with the browser?
Thank you so much for the time trying to help me out :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 06/03/2019 00:55, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Hi marcio

Have you tried using a portable version to see if it is your present install or nvda not functioning properly.

There is a additional add-on for nvda for extra support for Firefox and thunderbird.

You could also try creating a new user for testing per pose and see if problems still occur.

I personally do not have any problems in the ext section by tabbing and using basic arrow keys.

If any of this helps, hope you resolve this frustrating issue.

Adrian Pocock.

On 06/03/2019 01:25, marcio via Groups.I wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm getting a strange behavior from Firefox.
I'm not sure when or where it actually has started, bu I have a feeling that it started after the last update I got.
The fact is, I can't hear NVDA saying anything but "unknown" when navigating through the options on the extensions' section.
So, anyone else having this issue? Is there I can try to solve it?
Things I've tried so far:
Restoring Firefox
Updating NVDA
Restarting the computer
Still, none of these atempts gave me any result.

Thanks in advance :)

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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