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Re: O T, windows update

Antony Stone
 

Is there a way to tell the system "I know I don't have enough disk space for
this backup folder, but I want you to do the update anyway, without creating a
backup"?


Antony.

On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 12:43:14, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

This will be the update to Windows 1809 which I installed last week and
prior to that I had similar messages. This is what is known as a feature
update and is different to normal updates as it creates a Windows.Old
folder containing the previous Windows version, which gives you the option
to revert back to the previous version if you want. The Windows.Old
folder on my system is just over 8Gb in size and I suspect the message
about making space available you are getting, relates to having enough
disk space to accommodate this folder. Windows.Old will automatically
deleted after a few weeks, giving time for you to get used to the new
Windows version.

Your system may have attempted to update to 1809 but doesn’t have
sufficient disk space available. Have a look in Settings (Windows+i),
Update and Security, Windows Update then tab to “View Update History”.
You should be able to check what is happening in there.

Cheers

Chris


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Subject: [nvda] O T, windows update

Hello,

My a pologies for the off topic message, but has anyone had a similar
experience as I am having at the moment.

Several weeks ago I got a message purporting to come from Microsoft asking
me to free up space for a new update which was larger than normal, I chose
to be reminded later, since then the message changed to a choice of “pick
a time”or “remind me later”, now it is saying either “restart now” or
“wait an hour”.

So far I have not allowed this update, has anyone else had this experience,
it seems a different procedure to earlier updates, by the way I have
version 1803 at the moment.

Thank you for any comments and advice.



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Re: O T, windows update

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

This will be the update to Windows 1809 which I installed last week and prior to that I had similar messages.  This is what is known as a feature update and is different to normal updates as it creates a Windows.Old folder containing the previous Windows version, which gives you the option to revert back to the previous version if you want.  The Windows.Old folder on my system is just over 8Gb in size and I suspect the message about making space available you are getting, relates to having enough disk space to accommodate this folder.  Windows.Old will automatically deleted after a few weeks, giving time for you to get used to the new Windows version.

 

Your system may have attempted to update to 1809 but doesn’t have sufficient disk space available.  Have a look in  Settings (Windows+i), Update and Security, Windows Update then tab to “View Update History”.  You should be able to check what is happening in there.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

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Subject: [nvda] O T, windows update

 

Hello,

 

My a pologies for the off topic message, but has anyone had a similar experience as I am having at the moment.

Several weeks ago I got a message purporting to come from Microsoft asking me to free up space for a new update which was larger than normal, I chose to be reminded later, since then the message changed to a choice of “pick a time”or “remind me later”, now it is saying either “restart now” or “wait an hour”.

So far I have not allowed this update, has anyone else had this experience, it seems a different procedure to earlier updates, by the way I have version 1803 at the moment.

Thank you for any comments and advice.

 

  Best Regards, Jim.


O T, windows update

The Gamages
 

Hello,
 
My a pologies for the off topic message, but has anyone had a similar experience as I am having at the moment.
Several weeks ago I got a message purporting to come from Microsoft asking me to free up space for a new update which was larger than normal, I chose to be reminded later, since then the message changed to a choice of “pick a time”or “remind me later”, now it is saying either “restart now” or “wait an hour”.
So far I have not allowed this update, has anyone else had this experience, it seems a different procedure to earlier updates, by the way I have version 1803 at the moment.
Thank you for any comments and advice.
 
  Best Regards, Jim.


Re: NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

Hendrik Steyn <groothendrik.steyn@...>
 

Hi Adrian

The open office you're talking about: is it apachi or lebreOffice? I am asking, because I am a bit confused between the two of them.


Thanks in advance and have a blessed day

Hendrik

On 3/6/2019 5:50 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi Brian

Open Office seems great now and I wish I had tried it more frequently.

The issue you mentioned is sort of right, if you use a laptop nvda and a will read continue sly for 3 pages but if you hit the keys again it read the final 3 pages of my word docx file which included many elements tables,graphics,text boxes and standard text.

I feel this is a good quick way to produce and read documents without having to take an exam like modern word for those new comers especially.  The Alt text explanation is great its meaningful and doesn't assume a lot of prior knowledge.

Regards Adrian Pocock

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But can you read a whole document yet? Certainly Libra seems not to have that capacity with nvda due to the problem of nvda not knowing the difference between a blank line and the end of the file.
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Hi
David Russell

I just revisited open office as i to tend to use jart a lot and dont really like modern officeword.

They must have done a lot since i last tried it, its really good now and good alt text description.

Regards Adrian Pocock.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

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I am not aware that this function has anything to do width the problem at hand in fact, see my previous email.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section


I haven't tried the add-on yet, although I doubt it will help in any way
since perhaps it's not updated according to the latest Firefox.
Of course they might not have time to catch up with the updates as soon
as they're released, so it's understandable.
Anyway, as I've said, miss my old Firefox!

P.S.: Should I stop posting to this thread or since somehow it's about
NVDA that's ok to keep it up?

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Em 06/03/2019 18:08, Sue J. Ward escreveu:
Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was
occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even
cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am
still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift
tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing
on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird
and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the
new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my
thoughts.
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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

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WE are talking Firefox add ons dialogue here I think, if you reead the thread, and I've tried the latest Firefox on several flavours of nvda and the all show, or in effect do not show the bit that is complained about. Hang on a moment....

Heare is more info. Firstly when you land on it you do momentarily hear a description but hitting a curso then says unknown and you cannot get the text back and an nvda/f1 looks like this.

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (08:56:46.144):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: None

role: ROLE_UNKNOWN

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_FOCUSED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x05521970>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.ia2Web.Ia2Web'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: u''

location: RectLTWH(left=240, top=218, width=1680, height=834)

value: None

appModule: <'firefox' (appName u'firefox', process ID 3688) at address 5524130>

appModule.productName: u'Firefox'

appModule.productVersion: u'65.0.2'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 2229086L

windowClassName: u'MozillaWindowClass'

windowControlID: 0

windowStyle: 399441920

windowThreadID: 2232

windowText: u'Add-ons Manager - Mozilla Firefox'

displayText: u''

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x821ddbc at 548c030>

IAccessibleChildID: 0

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=2229086, objectID=-4, childID=-77

IAccessible accName: None

IAccessible accRole: u'vbox'

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (1048580)

IAccessible accDescription: u''

IAccessible accValue: None

IAccessible2 windowHandle: 2229086

IAccessible2 uniqueID: -77

IAccessible2 role: IA2_ROLE_UNKNOWN

IAccessible2 states: IA2_STATE_VERTICAL, IA2_STATE_OPAQUE (132096)

IAccessible2 attributes: u'margin-left:0px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;id:list-view;tag:vbox;class:view-pane;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-right:0px;display:-moz-box;'

 

Somebody probably knows more of what this means than I do.



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Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox and Extensions' section


Not knowing what add-ons someone has, or what vintage they may be, I would definitely encourage anyone using NVDA with add-ons to get the Add-On Updater ( https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/addonUpdater.en.html ) add-on, which is getting more and more comprehensive about the add-ons it can keep updated.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

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I'm not sure, but I think the version before that one worked correctly. Somebody needs to make a ticket on the Firefox bug tracker or it can be put on the nvda one if you want, and maybe Jamie can advise as he was on there the other day trying to understand a different issue in Firefox, I noticed.

This though is a Firefox issue as it was working before.

I only went there to check prompted by this thread, and as has been said, I knew it was working earlier.
Incidentally which version of Windows is everyone using, windows 7 or does it not matter?

Its a minor issue but annoying nonetheless if you want to add or look at what other add ons are installed.
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Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Soulseek qt and NVDA?

 

can you please email me privately?

On 3/7/2019 12:14 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
I'm emailing you privately.

I'm honestly not sure of what advantages the upgrade brings. Maybe you can tell me as I literally just started using this program today. Maybe you can tell me if I'm missing out on something important.

It seems to be a pain to browse search results, especially and I have to use object nav, but it is doable.

The link I used was:

https://www.slsknet.org/SoulseekQt/Windows/SoulseekQt-2017-2-20.exe


Please let me know what you discover and if the older version works better, please let me know. If you could be so kind as to provide a link that would also help too especially if you notice huge improvements without much actual new features.

My biggest issue right now is trying to figure out how to collapse the list of folders/files when I browse a user's directories. And also how so many users seem to have folders labeled as a number (like 1) followed by info about their shares. Super neat.


For reference I'm wolfman1360 on there, if that helps.


On 2019-03-06 11:37 p.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Tyler,


I have been running a very old Soulseek version 157 beta 13 for more than a decade and it still works quite well.  I didn't think anything past that version worked with screen readers--something about a programming language that is totally incompatible. Where can I get the 2017 version?  What would be the advantages of this upgrade?



On 3/6/2019 7:41 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.






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Re: Soulseek qt and NVDA?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tyler,


I have been running a very old Soulseek version 157 beta 13 for more than a decade and it still works quite well.  I didn't think anything past that version worked with screen readers--something about a programming language that is totally incompatible. Where can I get the 2017 version?  What would be the advantages of this upgrade?

On 3/6/2019 7:41 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.




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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Curtis Delzer
 

thank you again George, my huge problem is that I cannot get the combo box to change when I wish any filter to deposit messages in any folder under my inbox for the account I am working in.

I'll try that example, as you know I've not been able to install anything yet which my browser found to my download folder into Thunder Bird yet, but now you've shown me the way.

I'll go to the NVDA add-on page and get the t-bird add-on, thanks!

George, I recall your name from the "readit," days, remember that fine reader / file handler? :) I go a ways back, so as you can tell I've been doing computers for awhile. :)

Seems to me you had a bit to do with that software?

On 3/6/2019 8:09 PM, George McCoy wrote:

Hello again, Curtis.

I haven't followed your Thunder bird trials and tribulations closely, so the following is based on some assumptions.

1.  You are trying to install the quick folder navigation add-on.

2.  You are using the instructions in the tutorial on accessibility central.

3.  You have downloaded the .xpi file.

If my assumptions are incorrect, you can probably skip the rest of this email.

You will recall that I mentioned that a few things in the tutorial are out of date.  The section on installing the quick folder navigation add-on is one of those.  Try the following instead.

Click tools>add-ons.
Select extensions in the list.
Click the tools for all add-ons button. This is a little quirky.  Tab to the button and press spacebar.  Doing that doesn't click it, at least for me.  You then have to route the mouse to that button and click it with the left click key.  If you don't press spacebar first, you may get an object has no location message from NVDA.

Select install add-on from file from the menu.

Navigate to the the quick folders navigation add-on.  Press enter or click the open button to install the add-on.


Also, you should install the mozilla enhancements add-on for NvDA, if you haven't already done so.  It makes both Thunder bird and firefox easier to use.  The best thing about this add-on as far as Thunder bird is concerned is that it makes arranging message headers much easier.


Hth,

George


On 3/6/2019 2:12 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

the issue I have is that I can't get the button to import from add-on manager. the download happened in my browser, Chrome, and the xpi file is, I thought if I just associate the file to thunderbird.exe it would work. but, instead, thunderbird just created an outgoing message with the add-on as an attachment. :) There is suppose to be a button somewhere near the seach feature in the add-on, but when I go to "all add-ons that my browser comes up and I am back to the beginning of having them download to my download area and not directly into T-bird. Again, the issue is finding that import button in the add-on manager which is suppose to be right next to the "search" button according to the help I read.

On 3/5/2019 9:45 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Curt,

 

For the add-on to work, you have to close thunderbird and then restart it.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?  thanks guys for the off-topic messages.

 

On 3/4/2019 3:43 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
The add-on you are talking about is called Quick Folder Navigation. It's actually quite good and I do use it on my Thunderbird :)

Em 04/03/2019 20:38, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Try opening the message, hit alt m, m again, then right arrow and then you can arrow up or down to the folder you want and hit enter and the message will go into that folder. There is a add on that escapes my memory. Something like single key navigation that will move you to the folders quicker.
On 3/4/2019 3:10 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

My thing is that I cannot get Thunderbird to change folders where I wish messages to go in that combobox of my folders. I've made folders for message groups E.G. nvda, windows ten, blindtech, etc. but how to get them to change? I press enter and get an error message so what is the secret?


On 3/4/2019 10:14 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 04/03/2019 14:59, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

To my knowledge, one can have as many filters as one needs. You just need to pay attention on the filters' order, because they will run according with what you have done first.


Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

You don't need an add-on to do it, not really. On the "order by" (or something like that) menu, you'll find an option to group the messages on a certain subject in only one thread.

Sorry, I believe I couldn't help as much as I'd like, but I hope you find at least one thing that I just wrote useful for answering your questions.

Cheers,
Marcio









 

 

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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

The sayonara post, prior to locking, for this topic on the main group.

Again I have taken the liberty of starting a topic in the chat subgroup for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

Any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.
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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Hello again, Curtis.

I haven't followed your Thunder bird trials and tribulations closely, so the following is based on some assumptions.

1.  You are trying to install the quick folder navigation add-on.

2.  You are using the instructions in the tutorial on accessibility central.

3.  You have downloaded the .xpi file.

If my assumptions are incorrect, you can probably skip the rest of this email.

You will recall that I mentioned that a few things in the tutorial are out of date.  The section on installing the quick folder navigation add-on is one of those.  Try the following instead.

Click tools>add-ons.
Select extensions in the list.
Click the tools for all add-ons button. This is a little quirky.  Tab to the button and press spacebar.  Doing that doesn't click it, at least for me.  You then have to route the mouse to that button and click it with the left click key.  If you don't press spacebar first, you may get an object has no location message from NVDA.

Select install add-on from file from the menu.

Navigate to the the quick folders navigation add-on.  Press enter or click the open button to install the add-on.


Also, you should install the mozilla enhancements add-on for NvDA, if you haven't already done so.  It makes both Thunder bird and firefox easier to use.  The best thing about this add-on as far as Thunder bird is concerned is that it makes arranging message headers much easier.


Hth,

George


On 3/6/2019 2:12 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

the issue I have is that I can't get the button to import from add-on manager. the download happened in my browser, Chrome, and the xpi file is, I thought if I just associate the file to thunderbird.exe it would work. but, instead, thunderbird just created an outgoing message with the add-on as an attachment. :) There is suppose to be a button somewhere near the seach feature in the add-on, but when I go to "all add-ons that my browser comes up and I am back to the beginning of having them download to my download area and not directly into T-bird. Again, the issue is finding that import button in the add-on manager which is suppose to be right next to the "search" button according to the help I read.

On 3/5/2019 9:45 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Curt,

 

For the add-on to work, you have to close thunderbird and then restart it.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?  thanks guys for the off-topic messages.

 

On 3/4/2019 3:43 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
The add-on you are talking about is called Quick Folder Navigation. It's actually quite good and I do use it on my Thunderbird :)

Em 04/03/2019 20:38, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Try opening the message, hit alt m, m again, then right arrow and then you can arrow up or down to the folder you want and hit enter and the message will go into that folder. There is a add on that escapes my memory. Something like single key navigation that will move you to the folders quicker.
On 3/4/2019 3:10 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

My thing is that I cannot get Thunderbird to change folders where I wish messages to go in that combobox of my folders. I've made folders for message groups E.G. nvda, windows ten, blindtech, etc. but how to get them to change? I press enter and get an error message so what is the secret?


On 3/4/2019 10:14 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 04/03/2019 14:59, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

To my knowledge, one can have as many filters as one needs. You just need to pay attention on the filters' order, because they will run according with what you have done first.


Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

You don't need an add-on to do it, not really. On the "order by" (or something like that) menu, you'll find an option to group the messages on a certain subject in only one thread.

Sorry, I believe I couldn't help as much as I'd like, but I hope you find at least one thing that I just wrote useful for answering your questions.

Cheers,
Marcio









 

 


Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Marcio,

         At this point I'm allowing for "farewell tours" for topics already well underway.   I appreciate your thoughtful consideration.

         That having been said, this topic is about NVDA being used with Firefox, so it would certainly qualify for main group.  Were a conversation about Firefox and all its various settings be wanted, but not because there's any NVDA related content of significance about that, the chat group is the place to start it.

           The question I'd like people to ask themselves before choosing main versus chat is:  Does what I'm about to discuss involve using NVDA to accomplish a task with some program or NVDA settings to control NVDA itself?    If the answer is yes, then go for the main group, and if it's no then go for chat.

            You really can't discuss NVDA or any other screen reader without it being directly linked to accomplishing a task with other software.  Screen readers are tools that are "dead assets" unless you're using them with something else.   But you can go on for days about other software, with barely a mention of NVDA, and that's what belongs on the chat subgroup rather than the main group.

           There can be no 100% purity in either venue.  But the thrust of a topic is pretty clear even before it starts in most cases.  The LaTeX topic being a perfect example.  Since it's used with a text editor there will be very little NVDA related content when discussing LaTeX.
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Soulseek qt and NVDA?

Tyler Wood
 

Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.


Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

I haven't tried the add-on yet, although I doubt it will help in any way since perhaps it's not updated according to the latest Firefox.
Of course they might not have time to catch up with the updates as soon as they're released, so it's understandable.
Anyway, as I've said, miss my old Firefox!

P.S.: Should I stop posting to this thread or since somehow it's about NVDA that's ok to keep it up?

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Em 06/03/2019 18:08, Sue J. Ward escreveu:

 Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

Sarah,

Of course you may!  LaTeX is platform independent.  I'm just trying to get what will likely be a long and productive conversation, but that's marginally related to NVDA, launched where it can be discussed to the hearts' content of those interested without annoying those who turn to the main NVDA group for guidance on using or configuring NVDA.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use a mac primarily, may I ask my question in that thread? I've ben struggling with this language as I've ben trying to learn it by myself. This is wonderful.

On 6 Mar 2019, at 13:05, Brian Vogel wrote:

Hello All,

            The next few weeks are going to mark a period of transition, and a transition supported by both myself and Nimer Jaber, the list owner.

             This topic is just the sort of thing the Chat subgroup is meant for, and where extended discussion of LaTeX itself can shine, unencumbered.  Then there will also exist an online archive of what you all share with each other that you have easy access to later (and we all forget some detail we know was discussed at some point).

             I have taken the liberty of starting a topic there for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

             I am begging all of you who want to get into LaTeX "hot and heavy" with each other to take it to the Chat subgroup, which any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.

             I will leave this topic open for several hours, so that those who may not have yet subscribed to the Chat subgroup can do so, but will lock it later this evening.  After you have subscribed to the Chat subgroup, feel free to post to this message indicating such.  I can then post another "bump" message on the above noted topic so that an e-mail will land in your inbox to let you join in on the discussion.

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Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Quentin Christensen
 

This is one of those cases where Word tries to be a little bit too clever for its own good.  You can set the default view to Draft, however Word saves the view within individual documents, so unless you last saved the document in Draft view, it could open in another view.

The ribbon shortcut key for draft view is alt+w, then e.

There is a direct shortcut key, which is control+alt+n.  Most of you should recognise that keystroke as the one that you can use to start NVDA.  You can change that keystroke, or the other option is to create an entry on Word's Quick Access Toolbar to switch to draft view.  You can then press ALT+1 to access the first item on the Quick Access Toolbar, ALT+2 for the second and so on.

To edit the Quick Access Toolbar, open Word, then press ALT+F, then T to open the Options.  Press CONTROL+TAB until the focus moves to the "Quick Access Toolbar" category.  Press TAB once to "Choose commands from".  Either choose "All Commands" or "View Ribbon", then TAB to the list of commands and find "Draft" and press ALT+A to add that to the toolbar.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:26 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

I get these in daily digests, so, sorry for the late reply, but draft view strips out the toolbars and also unnecessary font styles to simplify writing. It's far speedier to write and edit documents in. Plus, the ribbon opens quicker too, for some reason. I have no clue how it looks visually, but it even increases the speed of the spell checker, for some reason. Maybe it's because I'm using an older HP laptop with a clogged up registry and god knows what else in here, but if I notice a huge increase in speed, after switching to draft view, it must be stripping visual junk out of the window. I haven't tried it on my 256 GB SSD ACER yet but I've noticed an extremely massive boost in speed and editing speed after switching to draft view. Anyway, can I tell MSW, Microsoft Word, to run Macros as soon as I open documents? The screen reader help for Macros only talks about running them manually, and my only experience with Macros is using an autocorrect backup Macro someone created for word 2003.



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NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

David Russell
 

Hi Group,
This is for any writers among the group.

In doing self-editing of fiction, I have found ProWritingAid is
probably the best going, but requires one to perhaps go to their site,
enter, and post your edit there. It's doable and works but a bit time
consuming to use.
To keep this brief, what do you use for self-editing?
Can you rely solely on NVDA to have the program work for you?
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Not knowing what add-ons someone has, or what vintage they may be, I would definitely encourage anyone using NVDA with add-ons to get the Add-On Updater add-on, which is getting more and more comprehensive about the add-ons it can keep updated.

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