Date   

addon updater

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

the last two times it tried to update the win10 addon i received an error. it does not tell me what the error is.


Re: FireFox and Other Browsers

 

I'm using Firefox 63.0.1, and have very little trouble with it. I'm using Windows 10 with latest updates. I"m using NVDA latest alpha, if that matters.





On 11/14/2018 8:50 AM, David Russell wrote:
Hello Group,

In response to the posts by Gene, it is my understanding that FireFox
63 is not all that readily user-friendly for totally blind persons
using a screen reader. I do not understand the reasons. I have been
recommended to switch to Google Chrome and say bye-bye to FireFox as
it is easily hacked and the changes made are seen as disastrous. That
from an acquaintance who earns their living doing tech support. As to
'accessibility' if you can find articles from Intopia or Webaim that
relate to FireFox and such, that may be your best bet. Each
organization is heavy into accessibility interest.

If I follow through with this recommend, Do I need mouse clicks to
open GMail attachments if using Chrome as my primary browser?
And, is Thunderbird compatible with Chrome?

Of note, I found in a dated NVDA post from 2017 that Sophos was
recommended as an Anti-virus program. In an attempt to download, it
would not complete on my end and was said to be corrupt. Be careful
with that one if considering Sophos. Thanks.


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued

Gene
 

And that's a very good reason to try using Programs And Features to see if it removes Avast well enough so that any remaining traces don't matter.  The tool may do damage that using Programs And Features doesn't do.  The Avast site says to use Programs And Features first.  That may not bbe for a reason like this, but try programs and features first.  People are, in my opinion, too quick to jump to the most thorough and possibly more damaging procedure in cases like this when the manufacturer specifically recommends a different procedure.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued

If you have ever had Avast, your computer is a mess anyway. I used
avastclear to get rid of it and then had to manually delete some stuff and
its left me unable to read dropbox dialogues or log in prompts in windows 7.

Brian

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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued


> Hello Group,
>
> Brian, thanks for the input and things to think about per Spybot,
> Mozilla, WaterFox and the like. I don't mind passwords being destroyed
> by Spybot as I have them noted on a hard copy pad that only I can
> read.
>
> I just don't know how reliable Microsoft Security Essentials is or
> was. Avast is to 'damn' difficult to install and as said, my history
> with AVG wasn't user-friendly at update time.
>
> The problem with the new FireFox versions is it throws off the way I
> am used to navigating email and social media. I rely on both! Google
> is searchable but just odd to navigate with new versions of FF.
>
> I will look at WaterFox and decide. Meantime, if you or anyone has an
> easy-to-install anti-virus program recommend, let me/us know. I prefer
> free of charge.. Thanks.
>
> --
> David Russell
> david.sonofhashem@...
>
>
>




Re: Has anyone else had quick navigation keys stop working after installing Microsoft Office?

John J. Boyer
 

What is this tool for reregistering filles and how do i find it?

John

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:09:20AM -0000, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Comment. Note Office removal or updates have in the past stopped proper use
of single key nav in browsers and pdf and word due to registry not being
put back as it should be. Assuming you are using the latest nvda, then
running the tool in the tools section to re register some crucial files
needed for accessibility may fix the problem. Otherwise if not you may need
to go back to the machine before it was installed, NOT by uninstalling but
either via backup and restore or maybe the more convenient system restore.
It may not work though. Can you still move between focus and browse modes?
If yes it could be a new but similar problem created in a recent update.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] Has anyone else had quick navigation keys stop working after
installing Microsoft Office?


They were working until I did that installation. I have a laptop computer.
The vendor configured it before giving it to
me. The quick navigation keys have never worked. They are trying to figure
out what they might have done that caused
this problem. Once I know that, I might be able to write a NVDA add-on to
correct it.

Thanks,
John

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Re: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] FireFox and Other Browsers

Joshua Crary <JCrary@...>
 

I use internet explorer and sometimes will switch temporarly to firefox if explorer is giving me trouble. I have never only used one dedicated web browser.

At the same time, I use my Iphone for some browsing and online services, as the rendering in IOS with voice over loads much more quickly and with much more accessibility than in a browser form on a desktop or laptop computer. For example, NVDA and going thorugh paypal on a desktop or laptop is a bit more cumbersome than when I grab my Iphone and send money by paypal thorugh safari.

I miss the good old days of awful and boring web sites that were all basic html.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:51 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] FireFox and Other Browsers

Hello Group,

In response to the posts by Gene, it is my understanding that FireFox
63 is not all that readily user-friendly for totally blind persons using a screen reader. I do not understand the reasons. I have been recommended to switch to Google Chrome and say bye-bye to FireFox as it is easily hacked and the changes made are seen as disastrous. That from an acquaintance who earns their living doing tech support. As to 'accessibility' if you can find articles from Intopia or Webaim that relate to FireFox and such, that may be your best bet. Each organization is heavy into accessibility interest.

If I follow through with this recommend, Do I need mouse clicks to open GMail attachments if using Chrome as my primary browser?
And, is Thunderbird compatible with Chrome?

Of note, I found in a dated NVDA post from 2017 that Sophos was recommended as an Anti-virus program. In an attempt to download, it would not complete on my end and was said to be corrupt. Be careful with that one if considering Sophos. Thanks.

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FireFox and Other Browsers

David Russell
 

Hello Group,

In response to the posts by Gene, it is my understanding that FireFox
63 is not all that readily user-friendly for totally blind persons
using a screen reader. I do not understand the reasons. I have been
recommended to switch to Google Chrome and say bye-bye to FireFox as
it is easily hacked and the changes made are seen as disastrous. That
from an acquaintance who earns their living doing tech support. As to
'accessibility' if you can find articles from Intopia or Webaim that
relate to FireFox and such, that may be your best bet. Each
organization is heavy into accessibility interest.

If I follow through with this recommend, Do I need mouse clicks to
open GMail attachments if using Chrome as my primary browser?
And, is Thunderbird compatible with Chrome?

Of note, I found in a dated NVDA post from 2017 that Sophos was
recommended as an Anti-virus program. In an attempt to download, it
would not complete on my end and was said to be corrupt. Be careful
with that one if considering Sophos. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but wich one you bought?
The NVDA addon or the SAPI5 version?

Did you try to change the NVDA synth?

Rui


Às 12:46 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

I bought one for NVDA AND WHEN I updated MVDA eloquence voice went away, NVDA went back to espeech!
E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
*From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:13 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA
Yes, it is a CodeFactory product sold by my company...
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 02:28 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

> That’s with code factory correct?  You have to buy it correct?

>

> E-mail is golden!!!

> Kevin Lee

>

> *From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>

> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:24 AM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

>

> Sorry, let me rephrase that...

>

> Eloquence have a SAPI5 version, and as that, it is available for all

>

> applications...

>

> It does not come with any flavour of Windows operative system...

>

> Rui Fontes

>

> Às 14:59 de 13/11/2018, kelby carlson escreveu:

>

>  > I had no idea Eloquence had become a Windows Voice. I assumed SAPI

>

>  > version 4 would be the old voices (i.e. Mary, Sam, Mike, from long
ago.)

>

>  > This is very helpful so thank you.

>

>  >

>

>


Re: Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

I bought one for NVDA AND WHEN I updated MVDA eloquence voice went away, NVDA went back to espeech!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

 

Yes, it is a CodeFactory product sold by my company...

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 02:28 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

> That’s with code factory correct?  You have to buy it correct?

>

> E-mail is golden!!!

> Kevin Lee

>

> *From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>

> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:24 AM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

>

> Sorry, let me rephrase that...

>

> Eloquence have a SAPI5 version, and as that, it is available for all

>

> applications...

>

> It does not come with any flavour of Windows operative system...

>

> Rui Fontes

>

> Às 14:59 de 13/11/2018, kelby carlson escreveu:

>

>  > I had no idea Eloquence had become a Windows Voice. I assumed SAPI

>

>  > version 4 would be the old voices (i.e. Mary, Sam, Mike, from long ago.)

>

>  > This is very helpful so thank you.

>

>  >

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

If you downloaded from a site called Blind tech it’s illegal

There’s really no difference except you don’t have permission to use it.

If the makers catches you with an illegal Elequice there could be legal action

I once made an illegal elequice download available and almost got in trouble!   I didn’t know it was illegal!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

 

hi gene.

i downloaded one version of eloquence from one website and i dont know

its legal or not.

the legal eloquence addon, is it commercial or freeware?

whats the difference between legal and illegal addon?

can you clarify this matter for me?

i wish to know about it.

thanks and God bless you!

 

On 11/14/18, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

> That’s with code factory correct?  You have to buy it correct?

> E-mail is golden!!!

> Kevin Lee

> From: Rui Fontes

> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:24 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

> Sorry, let me rephrase that...

> Eloquence have a SAPI5 version, and as that, it is available for all

> applications...

> It does not come with any flavour of Windows operative system...

> Rui Fontes

> Às 14:59 de 13/11/2018, kelby carlson escreveu:

>> I had no idea Eloquence had become a Windows Voice. I assumed SAPI

>> version 4 would be the old voices (i.e. Mary, Sam, Mike, from long ago.)

>> This is very helpful so thank you.

>> 

>

 

 

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with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

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Re: Eloquence

Josh Kennedy
 

yes the one offered by blind help is illegal. and it also crashes quite often. buy the propper and legal sapi5 eloquence from www.atguys.net ... It costs around $60 I think. 


Re: Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

if you buy the sapi5 version, it is about $5 per language, or due to the fact you have to buy it all at once, costs around $65 or so. 


Re: Identifying errors in NVDA with eclipse while reading line by line

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This sounds like one for the Developers, as not many here may be using this software.
Brian

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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:50 AM
Subject: [nvda] Identifying errors in NVDA with eclipse while reading line by line


Hi Team,

I am facing 2 issues with the eclipse:
1. I am not able to identify errors and warnings on Eclipse with NVDA
screen reader.
However JAWS reads invalid at the error / warning.

2. Cannot navigate word by word in editor. I have unchecked the Smart
Cursor in editor preference as documented in Eclipse accessibility
page.
I am using eclipse-java-neon-2-win32-x86_64
Am I missing something.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.


Re: problems with textnav addon

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It may well be all the embedded links in these pages causing weird stuff to happen.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems with textnav addon


Hi,
Well I am using latest stable NVDA with testnav addon,
I found that some text are are ignored by the textnav addons.

Example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English
when loaded into this page, press shift alt down arrow, it jumps to "Look up English or english in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.", where there is a portion of text "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" before that is skipped
then I press shift alt down arrow again , it jumps to "This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title English. "
where also skipped "English usually refers to: "

Example 2
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/crr7mlg0gqqt/apple

press shift alt down arrow jump to "Market cap. US dollars"
where "Apple
Ticker AAPL
Today's data summary
Market closed
% change
-1.00%
Price US dollars
192.23
Change
-1.94
As of 09:58 14 Nov 2018" are skipped

There are still many examples of such situation happening where I only quoted two of them.

Many thanks.
William






Re: Firefox Quantum and add-ons

 

Well its why I still use waterfox, some sites complain about old engines like github but they still work.

On 11/15/2018 12:17 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well yes but some useful add ons are simply no longer made for the new one. One is navigational sounds. To my mind it would be trivial for Mozilla to insert  optional sounds in their own code, particularly for click a link/button etc, and page loaded and end of download.
Thiose are the main reason I use Waterfox.
brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


Here's what I found out.  Uninstalling and reinstalling didn't change anything.  The problem was that I was using a very slow connection for a bit and I didn't realize how slow it was.  I was notified that Noscript had been added but it hadn't been.  When I went through the procedure again, it was and it is accessible.  So I now know that Quantum itself doesn't cause accessibility problems if the add-ons are designed to be accessible.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


I had thought that when Quantum was introduced, it might have degraded add-on accessibility even if the add-ons should be accessible but that might not be the case.  I've seen very little discussion of this and the very little I'd seen seemed to imply that but as I said, that may not be the case.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


Gene,

         Your best bet with regard to add-ons (Firefox) or extensions (Chrome) is to contact the developers of each.

          I am confused by "Firefox Chrome" (as the two browsers are disjoint) as well as "Quantum Chrome" as Quantum was the name given when Firefox dropped Gecko as its rendering engine, but not for Chrome.  Chrome and Quantum are unconnected.

          Of course, in the land of web coding, the only thing that's going to get any attention is what is current or upcoming. They'll never go back to previous versions of a given add-on/extension that have been supplanted.


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued

 

Yeah I have had programs do that to me, a fully mangled mess is left.

Its why I am so carefull, if it happens I reformat and the mess is gone.

But I am aware that some stuff is like that so now I actively avoid it when possible.

And if I can't I reformat and add the sucking crappy software to my list, its gotten to the point that I simply don't do some stuff anymore because the stuff got so crap that I got tired of reformatting every day or 2 because it screwed up.

On 11/15/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you have ever had Avast, your computer is a mess anyway. I used avastclear to get rid of it and then had to manually delete some stuff and its left me unable to read dropbox dialogues or log in prompts in windows 7.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued


Hello Group,

Brian, thanks for the input and things to think about per Spybot,
Mozilla, WaterFox and the like. I don't mind passwords being destroyed
by Spybot as I have them noted on a hard copy pad that only I can
read.

I just don't know how reliable Microsoft Security Essentials is or
was. Avast is to 'damn' difficult to install and as said, my history
with AVG wasn't user-friendly at update time.

The problem with the new FireFox versions is it throws off the way I
am used to navigating email and social media. I rely on both! Google
is searchable but just odd to navigate with new versions of FF.

I will look at WaterFox and decide. Meantime, if you or anyone has an
easy-to-install anti-virus program recommend, let me/us know. I prefer
free of charge.. Thanks.

--
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Re: Firefox Quantum and add-ons

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well yes but some useful add ons are simply no longer made for the new one. One is navigational sounds. To my mind it would be trivial for Mozilla to insert optional sounds in their own code, particularly for click a link/button etc, and page loaded and end of download.
Thiose are the main reason I use Waterfox.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


Here's what I found out. Uninstalling and reinstalling didn't change anything. The problem was that I was using a very slow connection for a bit and I didn't realize how slow it was. I was notified that Noscript had been added but it hadn't been. When I went through the procedure again, it was and it is accessible. So I now know that Quantum itself doesn't cause accessibility problems if the add-ons are designed to be accessible.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


I had thought that when Quantum was introduced, it might have degraded add-on accessibility even if the add-ons should be accessible but that might not be the case. I've seen very little discussion of this and the very little I'd seen seemed to imply that but as I said, that may not be the case.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


Gene,

Your best bet with regard to add-ons (Firefox) or extensions (Chrome) is to contact the developers of each.

I am confused by "Firefox Chrome" (as the two browsers are disjoint) as well as "Quantum Chrome" as Quantum was the name given when Firefox dropped Gecko as its rendering engine, but not for Chrome. Chrome and Quantum are unconnected.

Of course, in the land of web coding, the only thing that's going to get any attention is what is current or upcoming. They'll never go back to previous versions of a given add-on/extension that have been supplanted.

--

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it is a CodeFactory product sold by my company...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:28 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

That’s with code factory correct?  You have to buy it correct?
E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
*From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>
*Sent: *Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:24 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA
Sorry, let me rephrase that...
Eloquence have a SAPI5 version, and as that, it is available for all
applications...
It does not come with any flavour of Windows operative system...
Rui Fontes
Às 14:59 de 13/11/2018, kelby carlson escreveu:

> I had no idea Eloquence had become a Windows Voice. I assumed SAPI

> version 4 would be the old voices (i.e. Mary, Sam, Mike, from long ago.)

> This is very helpful so thank you.

>


Re: Firefox Quantum and add-ons

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

You will have to have service pack 1 for most software updates to windows 7. Are you sure that the program you are talking about does not have an update to run on windows 7sp1? As you say, you are restricting yourself to loss of many things while attempting to preserve just one. What is this software?
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox Quantum and add-ons


I've seen occasional comments about add-ons being unusable in Firefox Chrome by blind users. I had hoped that there would be improvbement in time but today, I tried to run Noscript and found it completely inaccessible. I am not using a recent version of NVDA but I doubt that matters. If it does, I'd like to know. If the lack of access to these and other add-ons is as extremely poor, nonexistent, to call it what it is, that I experienced today, where does one report such matters or try to get something to be done?

I did a Google searche for something like add-ons not accessible Quantum Chrome and a few other searches but I didn't find one relevant result. I didn't even find messages from user discussion pages I would have thought likely to show up in results.

So I have two questions:
Are things as bad as they seem, complete inaccessibility for add-ons, and is any of this improved when using newer versions of NVDA? I can't use recent versions because none of my machines support them. I could make my Windows 7 machine support them by installing Service Pack 1, but I'd lose access to a program that is dconvenient to have now and then. I also almost never use that machine online.

Gene


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you have ever had Avast, your computer is a mess anyway. I used avastclear to get rid of it and then had to manually delete some stuff and its left me unable to read dropbox dialogues or log in prompts in windows 7.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla Continued


Hello Group,

Brian, thanks for the input and things to think about per Spybot,
Mozilla, WaterFox and the like. I don't mind passwords being destroyed
by Spybot as I have them noted on a hard copy pad that only I can
read.

I just don't know how reliable Microsoft Security Essentials is or
was. Avast is to 'damn' difficult to install and as said, my history
with AVG wasn't user-friendly at update time.

The problem with the new FireFox versions is it throws off the way I
am used to navigating email and social media. I rely on both! Google
is searchable but just odd to navigate with new versions of FF.

I will look at WaterFox and decide. Meantime, if you or anyone has an
easy-to-install anti-virus program recommend, let me/us know. I prefer
free of charge.. Thanks.

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Re: Has anyone else had quick navigation keys stop working after installing Microsoft Office?

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Comment. Note Office removal or updates have in the past stopped proper use of single key nav in browsers and pdf and word due to registry not being put back as it should be. Assuming you are using the latest nvda, then running the tool in the tools section to re register some crucial files needed for accessibility may fix the problem. Otherwise if not you may need to go back to the machine before it was installed, NOT by uninstalling but either via backup and restore or maybe the more convenient system restore. It may not work though. Can you still move between focus and browse modes? If yes it could be a new but similar problem created in a recent update.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] Has anyone else had quick navigation keys stop working after installing Microsoft Office?


They were working until I did that installation. I have a laptop computer. The vendor configured it before giving it to
me. The quick navigation keys have never worked. They are trying to figure out what they might have done that caused
this problem. Once I know that, I might be able to write a NVDA add-on to correct it.

Thanks,
John

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