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Re: OT Mozila Thunderbird

Gene
 

Here is a discussion of information pertaining to the current discussion.  it presents some important information many people don't know or don't know in an organized, detailed manner.
 
F10 by itself duplicates what the alt command does in terms of moving focus to the menu bar.  Shift f10 does the rough equivalent of a right click and opens a context menu if there is one to open where you are.  The menu that opens doesn't always have all the commands that using the context menu key does, which is to the left of the right control on standard desktop keyboards. 
 
Shift context menu key may open a context menu with more items than just pressing the context menu key. 
 
It is important to know how to do the equivalent of right click from the keyboard.  At times, you find commands you don't find elsewhere and often, commands are conveniently placed in one menu that are more scattered in the full menus.  Also, in ribbon programs, the context menu may offer a faster and more convenient way to get to some commands than using the ribbon.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT Mozila Thunderbird

You can also hit the key one position to the left of the right control
key on a desktop computer.


On 3/5/2019 7:55 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
> Hi Ron
>
>
> Not sure how I right click, but I found it using F10.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 05/03/2019 12:51, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> I don't see a shortcut keystroke, but the operation is fairly simple.
>> Highlight the tree view of folders and right click and under the
>> context menu there is a new item.  Click this and you will be prompted
>> for a name and then tab to OK and press enter.
>>
>>
>> On 3/5/2019 7:43 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
>>> Is there a shortcut  key press to create a new subfolder in TB? I've
>>> looked in all the shortcut guides I can find.
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: OT Mozila Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

You can also hit the key one position to the left of the right control key on a desktop computer.

On 3/5/2019 7:55 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
Hi Ron


Not sure how I right click, but I found it using F10.


Cheers


Andrew


On 05/03/2019 12:51, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I don't see a shortcut keystroke, but the operation is fairly simple.
Highlight the tree view of folders and right click and under the
context menu there is a new item.  Click this and you will be prompted
for a name and then tab to OK and press enter.


On 3/5/2019 7:43 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
Is there a shortcut  key press to create a new subfolder in TB? I've
looked in all the shortcut guides I can find.


Andrew




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Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Karl Smith
 

What is the purpose of draft view? I have used print view for years and don’t have any problems. I am very curious to know. Thanks.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Draft view in Microsoft word.

 

I've enabled the, allow opening in draft views setting, but it does not work. I may have to create a Macro for the normal template that will switch it upon opening it. What sucks is I also found a really great view for dyslexic people, and would be great if Microsoft could let users choose the view they want. Oh well. Could a keyboard only Macro on the normal template work? I'm about to completely switch computers soon to a brand new ACER, so is there a way to back that Macro up in dropbox? Jesus, the things I have to do to have a default view upon open! I seriously don't get Microsoft sometimes. Their accessibility support has utterly ballooned but their usability decisions continue to baffle me.


Re: OT Mozila Thunderbird

AKH AKH
 

Hi Ron


Not sure how I right click, but I found it using F10.


Cheers


Andrew

On 05/03/2019 12:51, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I don't see a shortcut keystroke, but the operation is fairly simple. 
Highlight the tree view of folders and right click and under the
context menu there is a new item.  Click this and you will be prompted
for a name and then tab to OK and press enter.


On 3/5/2019 7:43 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
Is there a shortcut  key press to create a new subfolder in TB? I've
looked in all the shortcut guides I can find.


Andrew





Re: OT Mozila Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

I don't see a shortcut keystroke, but the operation is fairly simple.  Highlight the tree view of folders and right click and under the context menu there is a new item.  Click this and you will be prompted for a name and then tab to OK and press enter.

On 3/5/2019 7:43 AM, AKH AKH wrote:
Is there a shortcut  key press to create a new subfolder in TB? I've
looked in all the shortcut guides I can find.


Andrew



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


OT Mozila Thunderbird

AKH AKH
 

Is there a shortcut  key press to create a new subfolder in TB? I've
looked in all the shortcut guides I can find.


Andrew


Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

 

I've enabled the, allow opening in draft views setting, but it does not work. I may have to create a Macro for the normal template that will switch it upon opening it. What sucks is I also found a really great view for dyslexic people, and would be great if Microsoft could let users choose the view they want. Oh well. Could a keyboard only Macro on the normal template work? I'm about to completely switch computers soon to a brand new ACER, so is there a way to back that Macro up in dropbox? Jesus, the things I have to do to have a default view upon open! I seriously don't get Microsoft sometimes. Their accessibility support has utterly ballooned but their usability decisions continue to baffle me.


Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Curtis Delzer
 

well now, wouldn't it be fun if the air talked to you saying soft things? :)

I saw the file, downloaded it, but the tutorial on the NEDA site merely mentioned to go to that web site, get it, but I didn't see how to install. I just had the file extension of the folder app open with the executable of t-bird.

On 3/5/2019 1:17 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No its just sometimes people only retain the gist of a message not the detail.

Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:35 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:


I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?
Please read the tutorial I've already given the link to earlier. The first part is step-by-step instructions for downloading and installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension in Thunderbird.

There are times when I feel like I'm talking to the air.

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Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

hi. ya, the italian discaibers are often too loud, ifact i don't like audio descriptions.

On 3/5/2019 7:34 AM, Mallard wrote:
The ones in English are not so invasive, in fact.


In Italian, however, the voices of describers are often too loud and emphatic. And I watched something in Spanish the other day - I think it was Roma - where you even had the describer saying the name of the person speaking during a dialogue, which I found odd, though it might be handy at the beginning of a movie, while you get to know the diffeent characters' voices. I didn't watch the whole movie, so I hope they stopped that along the way.


Ciao,

Ollie



Re: nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

hi. right now the dev is working on eurofly 3 and he don't want to develope anithing else that that.

On 3/4/2019 8:30 PM, Iván Novegil via Groups.Io wrote:
Why don’t you contact the developer? I think that should be a native functionality, not a specific NVDA add-on.

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El 4 mar 2019, a las 18:01, cisco <audiogamer2004@...> escribió:

hey all. Cisco talking. i wanted to ask you if someone was available to try and develop an add-on which will announce, when landing, the altitudes 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10. i think that this may be done, hmm, detecting the altitude via the z key but with out affecting the user END.

i could provide the sounds, if you guys want.

if you want to try just private email me.

i am asking this because i don't know how to code in Pithon.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


CISCO.






Re: NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I would say that word may be clunky at times, but it shows page breaks and numbers them and can do tables better than Jarte can. It also allows you to set headings etc and do all the formatting once you get used to it.
Myself, it is horses for courses. If I want a quick and dirty program for a passable result, Jarte is fine, otherwise its Word.
I do not consider Libra Office quite there yet with its read all problems and some other issues that stop it being easy to use for us.
If anyone has other solutions that work well with NVDA though I'm sure we are all ears.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?


Hi NVDA Group,

I am considering two editing tools for my writing avocation. My
primary Word Program is Jarte; I do have MSWord, 2013, but find it
clunky or clumsy if you prefer so do my writing in Jarte.

FireFox 60 is my browser and I am using a 2018 version of NVDA, love
it and donated to the cause!

Is either Grammarly or ProWritingAid of more benefit to NVDA user?
Does it beep or make an audible tone when perhaps presenting word
choice options?
I have used ProWritingAid online and email the editing report to
myself. It does help me improve!
Thanks for the opinions in advance.

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Re: Number pronunciation

Steve Nutt
 

It’s been a long time coming, we need it. <Smile>.

 

Thanks Joseph.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 04 March 2019 16:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Number pronunciation

 

Hi,

There is an active project to bring you that feature.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Number pronunciation

 

Is there a way to get NVDA to say individual numbers instead of announcing them as words?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Off Topic Kindle windows app

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

A couple of comments. OK its fine to ask people to offer advice off the list, but if its a common issue, then please if you do get an answer just post the final solution here in the thread, and people who are posting here, might wish to take the poster up via email as in the case of his last few queries not enough info was given to do more than make a general suggestion of using focus highlight to tell where a cursor is. Many pieces of software have no cursor after all and all that is left is highlighting the word in focus or marking the focus by some other means.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Kindle windows app


https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GPC7U392HH93VPC8

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Off Topic Kindle windows app


Email me off list at ampbeast@live.co.uk

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.

Kindle reading app for windows 7.

Is there anyway to show you your position of reading as it reads out loud.




Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No its just sometimes people only retain the gist of a message not the detail.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:35 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:


I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?
Please read the tutorial I've already given the link to earlier. The first part is step-by-step instructions for downloading and installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension in Thunderbird.

There are times when I feel like I'm talking to the air.

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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you have some sight, does focus highlight help you at all?

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 5:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view


Email me off list at ampbeast@live.co.uk

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.


I noticed that there is no text cursor to follow where i am whilst nvda reads the message.

Is this normal and if so is there a way to do it apart from editing the original message.

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

I know i have asked a lot, but if anyone knows anything that would help me out a lot.

Regards Adrian Pocock.



Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

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Yes I know. Its counter productive any other way, though some people do try to make you feel guilty about load shedding, though perhaps unconsciously you get taken for granted as part of the furniture!
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:39 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


you can only do so much.
And, in the end, you only *should* do so much. Everyone is entitled to "have a life" and preferably one where one's health, be it physical, mental, or both is not sacrificed in an effort to serve or please others. It is not selfish to take care of oneself, first, so that one can continue taking care of whatever and whoever else one chooses to. It's essential, in fact.

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Re: Number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I saw your message about taking a break. You have a fun safe time.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Number pronunciation

 

Hi,

There is an active project to bring you that feature.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Number pronunciation

 

Is there a way to get NVDA to say individual numbers instead of announcing them as words?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Mallard
 

The ones in English are not so invasive, in fact.


In Italian, however, the voices of describers are often too loud and emphatic. And I watched something in Spanish the other day - I think it was Roma - where you even had the describer saying the name of the person speaking during a dialogue, which I found odd, though it might be handy at the beginning of a movie, while you get to know the diffeent characters' voices. I didn't watch the whole movie, so I hope they stopped that along the way.


Ciao,

Ollie


Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Mallard
 

Excuse me, but how can you watch a movie or whatever if it's in a language you don't understand?

Ok, you might say you don't watch movies in languages you don't understand, which makes sense.


I'm just like you. I don't like subtitles and I don't like audiodescriptions. I feel they infringe on my imagination... lol


But I others aer not like me, so I think subtitles should be reacheable and readable also for the visually impaired and blind...


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 04/03/2019 23:47, JM Casey ha scritto:

That hasn’t been my experience, though granted I don’t watch described movies all that often and so the number of subtitled ones I tried were very small. Some movies simply don’t have enough quiet parts for that to be realistically feasible. Others’ experiences and opinions may of course vary, but if I can’t listen to the actual actors speaking, regardless of what language that happens to be in, I’m out of it.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* March 4, 2019 5:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Hi

All the audio described content i have watched they do it in the quiet parts and do it very well.

Gene nz

On 5/03/2019 9:35 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I don't really know anything about Netflix, and this might not be avilable for some of the new shows there, but it might well be for older ones and movies. I usually just find a file with an .srt extension on the internet, and download it to my braille display device. It's not the best arrangement as the subtitles don't move with the dialogue as they are supposed to, but it's not so bad once you get the hang of it; you just have to focus pretty hard. I'd much rather do this than listen to a synth or a human reading the subtitles, talking over the actual actors in the film!


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Sent: March 4, 2019 2:51 PM

To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA


Hello Gene,



Thanks.



I know how to get around Netflix in Android, although subtitles there aren't very usable.



A friend and I were trying to see them on computers, so I'll have a look

at the page you recommended.



I can find audiodescriptions without diffilulties. I'm currently

watching The Crown and Black Mirror, plus a couple of Italian series and

La Casa de Papel in Spanish, which I'd started watching last year, but

now I discovered audiodescriptions, and it's a great thing...



Ciao and thanks,


Ollie





Il 04/03/2019 20:41, hurrikennyandopo ... ha scritto:


Hi



I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on

the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.



The link to this page ishttps://help.netflix.com/en/node/372

<https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372> <https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372>


They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also

net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a

chrome cast.



When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.



Gene nz



On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello all,



Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?



I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any

reference to subtitles.



Thanks, stay well,



Ollie





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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

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Re: skype menu

 

thanks jean for all this.

At least ms have got it right with skype 8.4, however its going to be something I will have to get used to.

Compaired to skype 7 though, I do think once I get used to it that skype7 will be that old thing I had to doodle with menus all over the place.


On 5/03/2019 5:31 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


If you are using the desk top version of skype 8 you can use the alt key + letter F key to bring up a menu arrow down to either sign out or quit.


When i last checked a few weeks back nvda could not read the skype menu down in the notification area. I am not sure if some one has made a ticket for this yet?


Gene nz


On 5/03/2019 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have just got into some studdy online and I need skype.

I have got into skype 8, and well, after a little bit of doodling about I must say that ms have actually improved skypes web interface, everything is labeled, now the only issue is I can't access the context menu in skype right click, its about the only thing I can't do, so I can't quit skype without ending the task from task manager.

Its about the only thing I can't do.





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To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
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