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Re: how do i get my NVDA to read PowerPoints

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Did you read the thread?
There were various suggestions about how to get the slides into a format something could read.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Angelo Sonnesso" <asonnesso@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do i get my NVDA to read PowerPoints


What the heck does this have to do with Power Point.
It is not that hard to change the subject.

73 N2DYN Angelo

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do i get my NVDA to read powerpoints

No firefox has its own viewer.

Though I would usually set it all to open with adobe dc otherwise things could have issues.

I have actually always set in waterfox and firefox to save the pdfs so you can open them later.



On 14/02/2019 11:10 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Can all web brousers automatically open PDF's or is that just with
GoogleChrome and Microsoft Edge?



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Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'll check it out 😊

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I wonder if the placeholder add on might be able to help with that one?
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?


Yes, it is, but I suppose it will not work because the buttons don't have
a Control ID unique...
all have 0 as ControlID...

Rui Fontes


Às 16:15 de 14/02/2019, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:
Is it available in Jaws?

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Peter
Beasley
*Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using
NVDA?

We used to have that feature in windoeyes.

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NVDA?

I'm not aware of such a feature in NVDA.
It would be pretty good, though. Someone may have already done the
request regarding it, so let's hope this is an option coming soon ;)

Just out of curiosity, what's the program/app name?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 14/02/2019 13:21, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:

Hey guys, molly here again.

Is there a way to label unlabeled buttons with NVDA? I downloaded an
app and when I swipe using the touchscreen or navigate with the
keyboard NVDA just says button, button.the app is a collection of
text adventure games. and while the game’s are accessible, the
titles of the games in the games library aren’t labeled.

Any help will be greatly appreciated 😊

Thanks.

Molly



Re: OCR and pdfs

JM Casey
 

Yeah, I understand that bit.

If it’s poorly printed, or uses a very strange ornamental font, you may not be able to get anything from it through oCR. If it’s images of handwriting you will also get nothing.

 

Maybe pass the file(s) to someone else and see what they can make of it?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: February 14, 2019 1:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR and pdfs

 

I do not know since it is a lot of pages that are scanned images instead of text entered directly into the document.

 

Dan

On 2/14/2019 1:16 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Not all text will oCR.

How is the text printed?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OCR and pdfs

 

HI,

 

I have a pdf that I really need to ocr.  I am trying to use the Windows ocr via nvda+r.   It says it is running the ocr but it comes back with nothing.  I know the page of the pdf has text so I am confused about why it isn't OCR ing the thing.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

molly the blind tech lover
 

Well for now I'll just keep using the ocr 😀

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Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

There was a way to do it in Supernova as well, but really you needed to have sighted help to do it.
It also only persisted on the machine it was on. Ideally it would be great if such a function meant you could exchange scripts with other users so only one person needed to do it.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?


Really? Wondering why they didn't bring it to NVDA. As far as I know
Windows eyes is way way older than any other screen reader.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 14/02/2019 13:52, Peter Beasley escreveu:

We used to have that feature in windoeyes.

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Windows 10

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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using
NVDA?

I'm not aware of such a feature in NVDA.
It would be pretty good, though. Someone may have already done the
request regarding it, so let's hope this is an option coming soon ;)

Just out of curiosity, what's the program/app name?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 14/02/2019 13:21, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:

Hey guys, molly here again.

Is there a way to label unlabeled buttons with NVDA? I downloaded
an app and when I swipe using the touchscreen or navigate with the
keyboard NVDA just says button, button.the app is a collection of
text adventure games. and while the game’s are accessible, the
titles of the games in the games library aren’t labeled.

Any help will be greatly appreciated 😊

Thanks.

Molly





Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

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I wonder if the placeholder add on might be able to help with that one?
Brian

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From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?


Yes, it is, but I suppose it will not work because the buttons don't have a Control ID unique...
all have 0 as ControlID...

Rui Fontes


Às 16:15 de 14/02/2019, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:
Is it available in Jaws?

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Peter Beasley
*Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

We used to have that feature in windoeyes.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

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I'm not aware of such a feature in NVDA.
It would be pretty good, though. Someone may have already done the request regarding it, so let's hope this is an option coming soon ;)

Just out of curiosity, what's the program/app name?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 14/02/2019 13:21, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:

Hey guys, molly here again.

Is there a way to label unlabeled buttons with NVDA? I downloaded an
app and when I swipe using the touchscreen or navigate with the
keyboard NVDA just says button, button.the app is a collection of
text adventure games. and while the game’s are accessible, the
titles of the games in the games library aren’t labeled.

Any help will be greatly appreciated 😊

Thanks.

Molly


Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

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There was a way to do it in Supernova as well, but really you needed to have sighted help to do it.
It also only persisted on the machine it was on. Ideally it would be great if such a function meant you could exchange scripts with other users so only one person needed to do it.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?


Really? Wondering why they didn't bring it to NVDA. As far as I know
Windows eyes is way way older than any other screen reader.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 14/02/2019 13:52, Peter Beasley escreveu:

We used to have that feature in windoeyes.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *marcio via Groups.Io <mailto:marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
*Sent: *14 February 2019 15:42
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using
NVDA?

I'm not aware of such a feature in NVDA.
It would be pretty good, though. Someone may have already done the
request regarding it, so let's hope this is an option coming soon ;)

Just out of curiosity, what's the program/app name?

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 14/02/2019 13:21, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:

Hey guys, molly here again.

Is there a way to label unlabeled buttons with NVDA? I downloaded
an app and when I swipe using the touchscreen or navigate with the
keyboard NVDA just says button, button.the app is a collection of
text adventure games. and while the game’s are accessible, the
titles of the games in the games library aren’t labeled.

Any help will be greatly appreciated 😊

Thanks.

Molly




Re: Alexa skills blueprints. My thoughts.

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There are lots of issues with Alexa apps for nvda. I know the main control program seems to work better in Jaws, but even then its not intuitive. Using the app on the I phone seems to show lots of things that tick but hav no voice either. Its a great shame Amazon cannot get their fingers out and sort these issues.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; "tech exchange @ second sense" <techexchange@lists.second-sense.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Alexa skills blueprints. My thoughts.


Because I'm getting older, I don't have time to code everything by hand.
I tried the free, Alexa skills blueprint
<https://blueprints.amazon.com/bp/amzn.ask.bp.5ffada1a-a4bd-4201-b758-74f7f8d8a946?ref_=ask_bp_home_6_0>
site, where non-coders can create skills and now publish them to the
skill store, but sadly, it was not an accessible experience. I'm gonna
try to get ahold of Peter korn to let him know that the development back
end is not accessible, but Anyway... I tried to create my own queer
disabled short story. My blog is also now available as a flash briefing
skill, and that, at least, was very accessible.

If you just want to create a simple text story, with no sounds or
expressions or pauses or interactive elements, then creating a story
based on the fairy tale skill blueprint
<https://blueprints.amazon.com/bp/amzn.ask.bp.5ffada1a-a4bd-4201-b758-74f7f8d8a946?ref_=ask_bp_home_6_0>
is very accessible. All the bells and whistles are housed in sometimes
clickable links at the top of the edit window. When I tried to create a
story about a horse, having the player input their name and adding
sounds, the pop out menus that were supposed to gain focus did not gain
focus or even show up all the time, using NVDA. When a miracle happens,
and these menus do show up in chrome and or FF, the choices are a giant
list of clickable text, that plays when a user hits enter on it. Your
selection will be the last sound you played. When you hear a sound, or
an expression you want, hit the add button at the bottom of the 128 or
200 item list. Reviewing what you have written works sometime, and you
can move sounds and stuff around by cutting and pasting as you would in
a regular document, but it's pot luck if any of the menus open. You can
monitize these skill blueprints, which is a nice touch.
I get that Peter is a busy guy, but I just wish Amazon would treat
accessibility like Microsoft does. I'll be emailing Amazon today because
this could be great for indie authors who have a patreon or similar.

By the way, my Patreon podcast <http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter> will
not be going on the Alexa Skill store, but if anybody wants my podcast
on their Alexa, and you are a supporter, I can share a private link with
you that will allow you to listen to the skill on your own Alexa.




Re: NVDA hotkey for toast menus

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What is the way to do this on windows 7 though.
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From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA hotkey for toast menus


Yes, you are correct. I guess I use Windows+a because the action center
doesn't lose notifications, and if you miss the notification with
Windows+shift+v then you may not see the toast.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:39 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

Actually, it is Windows+Shift+V, although Windows+A will open Action
Center and present past notifications.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nimer
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*Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 3:40 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA hotkey for toast menus



Windows a



On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 04:38 bob jutzi <jutzi@windstream.net wrote:

Since Windows-V is now used by the new Cloud Clipboard, what is the hotkey
for accessing toast notifications like those displayed when connecting
flash drives?





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Re: NVDA and sounds

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I think here we are talking more about entertainment rather than productivity and utility, so if somebody wants this its better suited to an add on I'd suggest rather than wasting time of the core programmers. Brian

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From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@sero.email>
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and sounds


Yeah, the addon would probably have to pull the sounds from some sort of website or service.
May be something to suggest to the developers.


Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

molly the blind tech lover
 

NVDA plus R. 😊

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

how do you activate the control using the ocr feature?

On 2/14/2019 11:21 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I used the ocr feature in NVDA. It read the control ho

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

I don't think it can.
I haven't seen anything with the tutorian that would allow it to do that.
There was an old screen reader called System Access that had this feature, but they stopped making any advancements with it a few years ago. Now they're just maintaining it, so would not recommend buying it.







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Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

 

how do you activate the control using the ocr feature?

On 2/14/2019 11:21 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I used the ocr feature in NVDA. It read the control 😀

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

I don't think it can.
I haven't seen anything with the tutorian that would allow it to do that.
There was an old screen reader called System Access that had this feature, but they stopped making any advancements with it a few years ago. Now they're just maintaining it, so would not recommend buying it.






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Re: OCR and pdfs

Dan Beaver
 

I do not know since it is a lot of pages that are scanned images instead of text entered directly into the document.


Dan

On 2/14/2019 1:16 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Not all text will oCR.

How is the text printed?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OCR and pdfs

 

HI,

 

I have a pdf that I really need to ocr.  I am trying to use the Windows ocr via nvda+r.   It says it is running the ocr but it comes back with nothing.  I know the page of the pdf has text so I am confused about why it isn't OCR ing the thing.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)
-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

Chris Shook
 

That's good.


Re: NVDA hotkey for toast menus

Chris Shook
 

ThanksThanks.


Re: is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

molly the blind tech lover
 

I used the ocr feature in NVDA. It read the control 😀

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there a way to label unlabeled buttons using NVDA?

I don't think it can.
I haven't seen anything with the tutorian that would allow it to do that.
There was an old screen reader called System Access that had this feature, but they stopped making any advancements with it a few years ago. Now they're just maintaining it, so would not recommend buying it.


Re: OCR and pdfs

JM Casey
 

Not all text will oCR.

How is the text printed?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] OCR and pdfs

 

HI,

 

I have a pdf that I really need to ocr.  I am trying to use the Windows ocr via nvda+r.   It says it is running the ocr but it comes back with nothing.  I know the page of the pdf has text so I am confused about why it isn't OCR ing the thing.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: NVDA hotkey for toast menus

Nimer Jaber
 

Yes.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 11:13 Chris Shook <chris0309@... wrote:
Nimer,
Is WIndows key plus A s shortcut key for the action center?




Re: NVDA hotkey for toast menus

Chris Shook
 

Nimer,
Is WIndows key plus A s shortcut key for the action center?


Re: Some mouse navigation questions

Chris Shook
 

Joseph,
Thanks for the post. You've cleared a lot of things up.


Re: Problems With NVDA

Chris Shook
 

I may be wrong, but at least when using NVDA, GoogleChrome is a lot esier to use than firefox.